tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post2292199494637670195..comments2024-03-27T01:27:21.576-08:00Comments on The Immoral Minority: Among documents stolen by Edward Snowden is the detailed blueprint for how the NSA works. Uh oh!Gryphenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356503547155430235noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-62199474639971642952013-07-15T21:10:10.567-08:002013-07-15T21:10:10.567-08:007:14 PM
It would be good to put war criminals in ...7:14 PM<br /><br />It would be good to put war criminals in jail. If not, we will get Snowdens. He may like Bush and put problems on his successor, the trouble is that the criminals just keep keepin' on. War criminals must be tried. <br /><br />No justice no peace. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-55413954235429723222013-07-15T19:14:15.339-08:002013-07-15T19:14:15.339-08:00I agree with you Darlene. Julian Assange just prov...I agree with you Darlene. Julian Assange just provides leakers information to the public. Why Edward has leaked his information may be because he is totally fed up with the American system how they spy on their own. I have to disagree with you tho on whether illegal behaviour by the U.S. govt. is true. I do believe that it is unlawful what the NSA is doing. But lets face it, this whole thing is to mostly embarrass the U.S. And from the Bush years I feel its about time the U.S. and the world deals with the raw crap that Bush sent out to the entire world. Many, many people throughout the world have been massively affected by the U.S. crash and I'd personally like to shove a hot rod right up every H.W. Bush, George W. Bush and mostly Dick Cheney. Who could believe that Obama had to praise this old bastard today at the white house?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-46788339232881834092013-07-15T17:43:39.438-08:002013-07-15T17:43:39.438-08:00The fourth estate has been slack. More peeps like...The fourth estate has been slack. More peeps like Murdoch need to be exposed and put in jail. Since Bush, I thought it was common knowledge that Americans are spied on. Remember they were going to have letter delivery persons and utility workers report on us? As far as espionage on other countries, weapons and war, how could any country expose everything they do? Greenwald and Snowden are the faces for an agenda, someone needs to be a whistle blower on the whole operation. Once the Russians are done playing with him he needs to come back and answer for his crimes against Americans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-51760271298818743342013-07-15T17:11:10.399-08:002013-07-15T17:11:10.399-08:00Snowden an Intelligence Analyst??? I don't thi...Snowden an Intelligence Analyst??? I don't think so. he may have had a TS clearance from his enlisted days but no sci (sensitive Compartmented Information). He is a bullshitter, my dear or a thief.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-72426326808090799852013-07-15T17:10:49.321-08:002013-07-15T17:10:49.321-08:00I agree it is good to know about Afghanistan and w...I agree it is good to know about Afghanistan and what the Palin's very dear close friend did. http://twitpic.com/4cvesf Has Sarah thanked Bradley Manning or praised him? No doubt she stands with the Nuge in the matter of Trayvon and she sees George Zimmerman as rill Amurikan.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-8798845748172721802013-07-15T17:09:25.428-08:002013-07-15T17:09:25.428-08:00I had to Wiki it. I have no memory of the story. S...I had to Wiki it. I have no memory of the story. So I guess you're right.<br /><br />The 7 July 2005 London bombings (often referred to as 7/7) were a series of co-ordinated suicide attacks in London which targeted civilians using the public transport system during the morning rush hour.<br /><br />On the morning of Thursday, 7 July 2005, four Islamist home-grown terrorists detonated four bombs, three in quick succession aboard London Underground trains across the city and, later, a fourth on a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square. Fifty-two civilians and the four bombers were killed in the attacks, and over 700 more were injured.<br /><br />The explosions were caused by homemade organic peroxide–based devices packed into rucksacks. The bombings were followed exactly two weeks later by a series of attempted attacks.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-62232027700395825692013-07-15T17:05:21.082-08:002013-07-15T17:05:21.082-08:00Hey, as long as you are a White male or white fema...Hey, as long as you are a White male or white female, preferably blonde, with no foreign affiliations, you can have all of the privacy plus protection that your little white ass desires.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-4029644489382086612013-07-15T16:55:58.720-08:002013-07-15T16:55:58.720-08:00Snowden et al are working the Founding Fathers rig...Snowden et al are working the Founding Fathers rights theme. This goes along with the Republicans worrying about losing our 2nd Amendment rights. <br /><br />It was the Republicans that started this entire thing with the over reaction to 911. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. <br /><br />Bottom line is that he broke the law and undermined our Nation's security. We all benefited from this security. Would you have given Hitler the location of our troops on D-Day because you didn't want so many of our boys killed at Normandy? Would you have given out the details of our weaponry against the Viet Cong because you don't like the profit made by the gun manufacturers? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-17983163301780944402013-07-15T15:12:06.053-08:002013-07-15T15:12:06.053-08:00we as americans deserve and have the right to know...we as americans deserve and have the right to know what is done in our name... you can't claim that it is for 'my safety' all the while denying me my basic right to privacy and free speech without fear of the government. Give me liberty or give me death!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-38325831467421327752013-07-15T15:02:28.479-08:002013-07-15T15:02:28.479-08:00Is he aware of wireless technology being utilized ...Is he aware of wireless technology being utilized to hack hard drives that are not even powered up?<br /><br />In his own head he is brilliant and would know all. For others he is either a complete sham, pretty stupid or combo of both. I think he saw too many Austin Power movies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-86444630057272986112013-07-15T14:51:07.171-08:002013-07-15T14:51:07.171-08:00Aragon64 .... agreeAragon64 .... agreeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-47241588130293666562013-07-15T14:48:27.519-08:002013-07-15T14:48:27.519-08:00I don't trust Snowden at all. He is in it for ...I don't trust Snowden at all. He is in it for $$ and the glory while he attempts to hurt our country by providing security information to other countries. He is a traitor.<br /><br />As for the Nobel Peace Prize, he is not even in the same category as Malala who should win it now. She is making a positive difference in this world and is fighting a tough enemy who will continue to go after her and all those who follow her lead. I hope she stays safe for many years to come as she is a beacon of light in the Middle East.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-12863413875516185022013-07-15T14:40:11.790-08:002013-07-15T14:40:11.790-08:00...and aragon64@1:09... Your thoughts are mirrorin......and aragon64@1:09... Your thoughts are mirroring mine, but there are many more "Kochs" in the works of these ' Masters of the Universe" International Corporations than we can imagine in our worst nightmares. <br /><br />Think about it! fromthediagonalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-61857963033781074492013-07-15T14:38:27.798-08:002013-07-15T14:38:27.798-08:00Aragon64, I'm with you. Anyone who could get a...Aragon64, I'm with you. Anyone who could get and release inside info from the Koch brothers org and ALEC, would be a hero to me.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-50142981477272180132013-07-15T14:20:05.324-08:002013-07-15T14:20:05.324-08:00to the anons above, and especially 12:57... I agre...to the anons above, and especially 12:57... I agree on all counts... does anyone remember the French Foreign Legion of yore? If you don't, please research! It was comprised of the misfits of its time. Now look at all of those so-called Private Contractors and see if you can tell the difference between the regular military and those "hired ones" most of whom served a tour or two "in the sandbox". The self described "bad asses" are making multiple amounts of money of those who signed up for a career in the military.<br />Don't get me going!<br />fromthediagonalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-78643146552976251632013-07-15T13:56:23.228-08:002013-07-15T13:56:23.228-08:00I suspect that Snowden was manipulated from the be...I suspect that Snowden was manipulated from the beginning by someone who convinced him he could become famous and wealthy by stealing secret information and that was his intention from the start.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-87560168065067712012013-07-15T13:54:13.024-08:002013-07-15T13:54:13.024-08:00Yesss! This is the best explanation I've seen...Yesss! This is the best explanation I've seen of how I have viewed this situation.<br /><br />From the very beginning, I've been suspicious of Greenwald's involvement, and those suspicions have only increased every time he opens his mouth.<br /><br />I don't think the purpose of this exercise has EVER been to expose some questionable practices of our government. There's a LOT more to this that we just don't know yet...and that scares the hell out of me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-19519739682608881052013-07-15T13:50:07.987-08:002013-07-15T13:50:07.987-08:00All we can do is speculate, really. Anyone taking...All we can do is speculate, really. Anyone taking a hard position at this point is letting their personal bias fill in the blanks where the major facts are missing:<br /><br />What docs does he have?<br />Who has gained access to the info?<br />How can he protect the docs 24/7 without security?<br />Is he aware of wireless technology being utilized to hack hard drives that are not even powered up?<br />Who has the key to the encryption?<br />How does he know whether or not he's been drugged via gas or thru food and compromised? There are other substances used in intel gathering that produce effects of S/T amnesia. One who is sleeping would never know they had been sedated.<br /><br />These types of operations that he claims to know about in entirety are almost always compartmentalized to prevent espionage and leakage. How does he manage to be in control of so many missions which have typically been under the control of much higher level military (full-bird colonel) or quasi-military career GS employees at a comparable scope of responsibility.<br /><br />Why Glenn Greenwald? He is a notorious hater of US Govt with an axe to grind because he was forced to move abroad in order to marry his lover. I still read GG and don't discount all of his research b/c I disagree with him politically on some issues. But he has his own motives and they're not always pro-America.<br /><br />What were the real reasons that Snowden for the timing and the decisions that he's made? There are some obvious holes in his story about his procurement of his last couple of jobs, so there's no way in hell he's told the truth about everything. But it's more likely that there is SOME truth than NONE. <br /><br />For the smartest guy in the room wherever he goes, it doesn't appear that he had a workable plan to be a bona fide whistleblower. What was his plan for an endgame? Who really cares how much $$$ he was making on a contract w BAH? Why all of the ego-driven propaganda from him on the front end? With a better plan, he could've released the same information anonymously with control of the message without resorting to threats to disseminate data that will possibly harm national security. I'm suspicious of his motives for wanting to BE the story by inserting himself into the story, instead of TELLING the story to those who could responsibly handle the matter and guarantee change if it warranted being changed.<br /><br />Just my opinion, which is skeptical, and still very open, but I'd expect some multi-level lies to be told on both sides, and for the real weak points in security to be blurred, minimized, and never documented. For whatever Snowden thinks he knows, he doesn't know everything. But if he threatens to harm our country's security in a way that harms a small ally of ours in the ME, then Snowden's buddy has done him a great disservice in leaving him exposed in South America. It will be much easier for Mossad teams to reach him there without the same repercussions that would occur if they *took him out* here stateside. Most countries have tighter control of the press than the US. Unless you know which sources to read and which of their stories are legit and which are disinfo, most international news travels through a filter before it's printed and disseminated, and then again when it is translated and redistributed. A big event might not be blacked out, but it can be filtered and *non covered* to the point that most will never know it happened or it's importance. Example: Ask 20 people what they know about 7/7. I rest my case.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-38314023580434219592013-07-15T13:48:08.545-08:002013-07-15T13:48:08.545-08:00Aragon-
I agree.
He went beyond whistleblower s...Aragon-<br />I agree. <br /><br />He went beyond whistleblower status almost from the beginning and is potentially threatening the security of our country, which infuriates me. Just who does this asshat think he is, to have the qualifications necessary to determine what information to release? It's not like he's got decades of experience in security, the military, or foreign relations to help him make appropriate judgements about the materials he supposedly has.<br /><br />I also think that he is being manipulated by some person or organization that has convinced him that he is on a par with Assange, which he is not. I suspect he has a lot less information than he claims (at least I HOPE he does!) and he certainly does not have the organizational structure set up that Assange did before he released anything.<br /><br />He's now dealing with crisis management instead of following a well-thought-out protocol for handling the information and his own future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-61124233970217186602013-07-15T13:35:32.480-08:002013-07-15T13:35:32.480-08:00If you are of the view that an intelligence data a...If you are of the view that an intelligence data analyst who spent the time he was closest to anything remotely sensitive to how the NSA operate at an out-post in Switzerland has in his possession something that China & Russia doesn't already have, I suggest you abandon that naive mindset. Mr Snowden we now know is a social security hater, he'd rather a 80 yrs old grandmother go get a job as a hairdresser. We know he has great dislike for his present President, so we cannot rule out all these fact being responsible for his motive in doing what he's doing now, and what intended consequence he foresaw, which can only be the discrediting of the Obama administration, because another thing we now know for a fact is that he was a religious believer in everything he's now railing against when Mr Bush & Mr Cheney where in charge. So I submit to you Gryphen, please separate the fight we all must fight against the government doing a nosey on our noble privacy and the idolisation of a narcissism filled individual who's obviously being puppet managed by unsavoury characters that are way out of his mundane leagueAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08835086276600799404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-38164983808042336602013-07-15T13:31:09.907-08:002013-07-15T13:31:09.907-08:00As far as I'm concerned Snowden is a traitor a...As far as I'm concerned Snowden is a traitor and Greenwald probably is, too. If he really has the documents he says he has, Snowden isn't going to get out of Russia alive. He is a fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-64609902706336636022013-07-15T13:16:11.891-08:002013-07-15T13:16:11.891-08:00We had a discussion at work about Snowden and we c...We had a discussion at work about Snowden and we came to a consensus that he's a narcissist (like someone else we all know of here), who turned against a system he happily served until Obama came into office and who isn't as smart as he thinks he is. Where did he run to? Chinese territory (and we all know how expert they are at hacking people's electronics as soon as you enter their territory, if not before) and then Russia. And he's trying to get to other countries who are also not so great when it comes to openness and democracy...what does that tell you about him? If he had been smart, my coworker said that he should have flown straight to Argentina, which has no extradition agreements with anyone, according to my co-worker, and Snowden would have been relatively safe. He's a dope and he's going to keep up this I've got all these secrets ploys until he ticks off someone, like Putin, and becomes really sorry. He'd be safer if he just came home and surrounded himself with lawyers. Abroad, he's much less safe. And that was the consensus from a bunch of us at work in Washington, DC...just down the street from the NSA, the FBI, etc.<br />Aragon64https://www.blogger.com/profile/09168378865414859748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-53876079578946689962013-07-15T13:09:30.847-08:002013-07-15T13:09:30.847-08:00I can understand other countries wanting our turnc...I can understand other countries wanting our turncoats and their contraband. I don't understand why Snowden is not treated as an international criminal? He has a right to defend himself when he is charged. I just don't get how they can prove him to be a great patriot and that gibberish they talk. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-84129991936535981132013-07-15T13:09:18.297-08:002013-07-15T13:09:18.297-08:00I sure do wish those 'leakers' would infil...I sure do wish those 'leakers' would infiltrate the Koch brothers' organization and start spilling everything they're up to!Aragon64https://www.blogger.com/profile/09168378865414859748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-51056834888208947382013-07-15T13:04:09.459-08:002013-07-15T13:04:09.459-08:00Don't you think they are already duplicated? R...Don't you think they are already duplicated? Russia and China would want to have them for negotiations and manipulations. They would not want to pass them out willy nilly at this point. They may still be de-encrypting. <br /><br />As long as Snowden is in Russia he may be on cameras 24/7. Supposedly he and the Wikileak women are the only ones guarding these laptops? <br /><br />It sounds absurd if they think they are in control. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com