tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post3504107231870949441..comments2024-03-27T01:27:21.576-08:00Comments on The Immoral Minority: Here is the Thomas Van Flein attempt to intimidate Shannyn Moore.Gryphenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356503547155430235noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-19228499952463658932009-07-06T01:56:04.249-08:002009-07-06T01:56:04.249-08:00Thank you for posting the complete text of Mr. Van...Thank you for posting the complete text of Mr. Van Flein's July 4th press release. If you care (and I can't imagine why you would), here is my nasty commentary:<br /><br /><a href="http://samsamdat.blogspot.com/2009/07/money-for-nothing-and-houses-are-free.html" rel="nofollow">Money for Nothing, and the Houses are Free!</a><br /><br />Bill Abendroth<br /><a href="http://samsamdat.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Samsara Samizdat</a>Bill Abendrothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16813955112374596460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-84832694641411880692009-07-05T20:45:38.729-08:002009-07-05T20:45:38.729-08:00Sarah need to be told about the law of holes when ...Sarah need to be told about the law of holes when you find yoursef in one, it is time to stop digging!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-58903110500900980032009-07-05T14:59:47.520-08:002009-07-05T14:59:47.520-08:00Your comments at the end of this posting are spot ...Your comments at the end of this posting are spot on. This sounds much like the result of the same thought processes around those emails Palin exchanged with the campaign manager (Vanity Fair article). <br /><br />She should, but probably won't, ditch the attorney who supported her in this. Pathetic. So sad and unreal I find I can't stop reading about it. The more I learn, the sorrier it gets. For Sarah and her family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-61020689787037605732009-07-05T11:49:21.457-08:002009-07-05T11:49:21.457-08:00Lisabeth @11:06 - Sending a thank you was an after...Lisabeth @11:06 - Sending a thank you was an after thought, no doubt. <br /><br />I would love to see her try to smack down lies about that fake pregnancy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-73297727854530356652009-07-05T11:29:30.301-08:002009-07-05T11:29:30.301-08:00Re: "In Shannyn's case this is completely...Re: "In Shannyn's case this is completely untrue. All Shannyn said was that there were "rumors" of a criminal investigation. Which is completely true and verifiable"<br /><br />The other day I heard discussion at the watercooler about rumors that Shannyn has three nipples, so I posted them on Facebook. I figured the existance of those rumors is completely true and verifiable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-1910726320200698032009-07-05T11:06:46.823-08:002009-07-05T11:06:46.823-08:00a new Tweet from Sarah:
Attached is my "than...a new Tweet from Sarah:<br /><br />Attached is my "thank you" sent yesterday to express gratitude, & smack down lies at same time http://tinyurl.com/q28wl5<br /><br />She just doesn't stop, does she?? I love her expressions "smack down lies" I am sorry but the woman is nuts. Absolutely nuts. She can't stay out of the limelight, she craves it! I swear part of the reason she did this Friday afternoon was to take the MSM away from Michael Jackson - a love hate relationship with the MSM!Lisabethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-35626360984654645032009-07-05T10:45:06.233-08:002009-07-05T10:45:06.233-08:00I'm sure it took a lot of time and energy for ...I'm sure it took a lot of time and energy for Palin to find an attorney dumber than she is but she managed to do it. <br /><br />Did she by any chance go to high school with this guy?mlaiuppahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13792165896828163411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-37153229563754634082009-07-05T10:35:23.429-08:002009-07-05T10:35:23.429-08:00I'm still going with a divorce pending for Pal...I'm still going with a divorce pending for Palin or my second choice that one of her daughters is knocked up again, but here's another choice: <br /><br />Don't kid yourselves that SM saying it was rumours is going to be an adequate defence, especially now when Palin's political career has been destroyed and she's been forced to resign by SM and company. SM better get herself a good lawyer now and start thinking of a counter strategy IMO. When Americans start suing each other, as they are wont to do so often, look to where the money is for the eventual winner. And in this case also look to who's camp the governor is in. <br /><br />If there's one thing that Palin doesn't want everybody to know it's that she faked a pregnancy. Therefore that must become a part of the pending lawsuit and for that to happen SM and her lawyer must be proactive on this. <br /><br />How exciting for team Canada!Sigmundsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10791664187645200259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-51540303783251539562009-07-05T10:09:03.240-08:002009-07-05T10:09:03.240-08:00What was the purpose of removing building code req...What was the purpose of removing building code requirements? Was that helpful to the general contractor of the complex? <br /><br />When the chickens start clucking loudly, there's a fox in the hen house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-15005202306800968272009-07-05T10:06:21.012-08:002009-07-05T10:06:21.012-08:00Poor little trollster juju. Sarah abandons her job...Poor little trollster juju. Sarah abandons her job with less hope of ever becoming POTUS, gave another one of her rambled speeches, and now she wants to go after free speech (you know, the one that protects us from them and not the other way around, like she thinks).<br />Poor Sarah has gone from believing that she is a Queen to believing that thst she is GOD. Higher calling? Bullshit. But then again, since she was at the bottom of the barrel, being knee deep in crap is higher.Pattihttp://www.hawaii.rr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-21871397456182538022009-07-05T09:55:46.864-08:002009-07-05T09:55:46.864-08:00Check out PD's new post.
The attorney's l...Check out PD's new post.<br /><br />The attorney's letter deals mostly with information regarding the complex. If everybody was doing their job by the book, wonder how the complex ended up on land that did not have a clear title? Which has cost the good folks of Wasilla over $2M in attorney's fees; that's what I read. Why wouldn't the city order a title search and have a clear title in hand before proceeding with such a large investment? To build the complex before leaving office, maybe? How close in proximity is the complex and house? <br /><br />As far as any bidding process, look at how TransCanada ended up being the only bid submitted. Manipulation is Palin's game. This is a woman who faked a pregnancy in front of everybody and now there is an abundance of photo evidence that proves she lied.<br /><br />Keep looking, the woman speaketh with a forked tongue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-18967175197840199842009-07-05T09:36:28.227-08:002009-07-05T09:36:28.227-08:00I'm still thinking IRS????
Also - investigate...I'm still thinking IRS????<br /><br />Also - investigate SLAPP. Progressive Alaska has great coverage on Suppression of Political Speech. Seems it's covered.<br /><br />juJu is toast! Bwahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahahahahahaha<br /><br />The flying monkeys will have to give her LOTS of money now for all her legal beagle bills.<br /><br />If she'd have stopped lying about pretty much everything, maybe she wouldn't be in this mess.basheerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00769950942470390914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-6561006525737318722009-07-05T08:22:21.022-08:002009-07-05T08:22:21.022-08:00Don't believe anything until it is officially ...Don't believe anything until it is officially deniedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-67470458499234932122009-07-05T08:12:21.947-08:002009-07-05T08:12:21.947-08:00Well done, Your comments right on point, as are mo...Well done, Your comments right on point, as are most all of the commenters. Boy you guys sure have hit a nerve, perhaps the right nreve.Bones AKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-11886479003494597992009-07-05T07:55:44.069-08:002009-07-05T07:55:44.069-08:00Why is it I can see Todd talking to his buddies wh...Why is it I can see Todd talking to his buddies who were building the Wasilla Sports Complex and asking, "When you order the windows for the complex, can you add on some for my house? Thanks pal!"? <br /><br />This is how you get free building materials for your home via the taxpayer's money.KayInMainehttp://whitenoiseinsanity.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-13884492575434254012009-07-05T07:53:48.261-08:002009-07-05T07:53:48.261-08:00"we can categorically state that we are not a..."we can categorically state that we are not aware of any "federal investigation" that has been "pending" for the last seven years. We are aware of no subpoenas on SBS regarding the Palins. We are aware that the Federal Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation have been helpful, responsive and diligent in prosecuting the email hacker and in cleaning up Alaska’s corrupt legislators."<br /><br />OF COURSE YOU ARE NOT AWARE! And what if the investigation has been pending for only the last 7 months? They dont tell you in advance. The just show up with warrants and start seizing stuff...And why the mention of the "hacker"?<br /><br />too much info van flea...too much info...sjk from the belly of the planehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16534445418871394872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-34293561153008770432009-07-05T07:44:42.215-08:002009-07-05T07:44:42.215-08:00From HuffPo article “Huffington Post Blogger in Pa...From HuffPo article “Huffington Post Blogger in Palin’s Cross Hairs”<br />For future reference material here is a comment 7-5-09 at 11:10 am made by kejia:<br />If Palin read, she would do well to check out Citizen Media Law Project's Legal Guide:<br />http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/<br /><br />First, defamation laws differ for public officials,public figures, and private citizens. <br />See http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/examples-public-and-private-figures<br /><br />Palin is currently a public official. On July 26, 2009 she will be a public figure. She will not be a private figure. (I cannot imagine that anyone who loves attention so much would want to be a private figure. But the truism about having ones cake seems to be one of the many items in her black hole of ignorance.) <br /><br />As a public official or figure, Palin will have to prove that Shannon Moore acted with actual malice. If she were a private figure, Palin would only have to prove that Moore acted negligently. <br />http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/proving-fault-actual-malice-and-negligence<br /><br />In any case, given the numerous links AKM listed above, it will be easy for Moore to claim "opinion and fair comment privileges" specifically:<br /><br />--begin quote--<br />Opinion and Fair Comment Privileges: Statements of opinion generally cannot support a cause of action for defamation, even if they are outrageous or widely off the mark.<br />http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/defamation-privileges-and-defenses<br />--end quote-- <br /><br />Also, Moore can claim a "wire service defence" since these accusations come from reputable news sources, also listed by AKM<br />http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/wire-service-defenseProChoiceGrandmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17417938073684717385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-67532566324466071172009-07-05T07:13:56.977-08:002009-07-05T07:13:56.977-08:00I promised my family that I would STOP posting any...I promised my family that I would STOP posting anything about Sarah Palin after today. And you know what, my 2 cents is no longer needed. She is toast. (I don't know if my 2 cents was ever truly needed, but I was trying to help with tiny PR tools whenever I could.)<br /><br />Here's my parting syllogistic shot across the bow: <br /><br />1) We know now from the CBS release of her campaign e-mails that Palin goes into conniption fits to lie about the truth (e.g., Todd's membership in the AIP was true and Palin desperately tried to lie about it by causing a maelstrom of a denial). Schmidt could barely stop her from "going rogue" on that one. <br />(There are many more examples of this "maelstrom lying" to hide the truth biz; see Palingates for more.) <br /><br />2) Palin is going into conniption fits about Housegate. Only enablers around her now, such as Van Flein.<br /><br />THEREFORE: Palin's current behavior indicates that Housegate is true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-22190145802537755292009-07-05T07:10:41.729-08:002009-07-05T07:10:41.729-08:00There are so many 'gates.' It is good to h...There are so many 'gates.' It is good to have a response to one of them.<br />Can we now go on to the others? This is the only way Palin wants to communicate.<br />Please, take up religiongate soon.<br /><br />How interesting that the local FBI spoke up so soon. What happened to statements like, we don't comment either way? Who can say there are no FBI that can be persuaded for political reasons? I was never under the impression that the corruption in Alaska could not include federal agents, as well as the local corrupt. Van Flein's letter is typical of tactics used by the rich. Palin will need a fortune to carry on that kind of aggressive litigation. We've seen it in action and the rich can file bogus suits that go on for years, they know they won't win court. It is all smoke and mirrors.<br /><br />Don't you find it odd there were no private cease and desist letters before going public? What Van Flein did is the worst public relations. It's not good to give the impression you are extorting a politicians constituents. The RICO laws certainly apply to the Palins.<br /><br />“McCain Adviser, Rick Davis, Lied About FBI Vetting Palin”<br />http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6123<br />McCain and Palin still need each other. Neither want the whole story told. So McCain will have to say things supportive of Palin regardless of what he knows or would like to say.<br /><br />At this time, it doesn't matter whether or not it is the Anchorage FBI that is investigating any 'gate.' They would not tell you if they were.<br /><br />Who violated the Johnston family? They had their computer hacked. Is anyone investigating the story around her arrest? Wasilla has arson cases that are not solved, it is more then the church fire. What about those investigations? You never hear a word from authorities. No FBI in on the investigations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-34481861954959160562009-07-05T07:06:18.923-08:002009-07-05T07:06:18.923-08:00@Juju, you're on the iceberg. Look at your fee...@Juju, you're on the iceberg. Look at your feet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-16215062972536854102009-07-05T06:51:28.669-08:002009-07-05T06:51:28.669-08:00Let them sue so you can supoena. What a MAJOR GIF...Let them sue so you can supoena. What a MAJOR GIFT that would be.<br /><br />LivvyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-2161963787907499112009-07-05T06:50:54.623-08:002009-07-05T06:50:54.623-08:00I think van flea went in to way to much detail abo...I think van flea went in to way to much detail about housegate if its not true, lol! And how many FBI agents are waiting around on a sat let alone a holiday?<br />If it quacks like a duck...and looks like a duck...crystalwolf aka caligrlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-12192434817749933002009-07-05T06:39:59.904-08:002009-07-05T06:39:59.904-08:00Wow: where to begin with this balderdash from Pali...Wow: where to begin with this balderdash from Palin's attorney?<br /><br />I know! How about beginning by asking ourselves why in the world this particular rumor struck such a chord that it gets this response, complete with threats of defamation suits (I guess those were the same defamation suits the McCain campaign was "looking at" when the National Enquirer published its article on Sarah's extracurricular activities? Strangely, no defamation lawsuit ensued)? <br /><br />Question number 2: why no threats of defamation lawsuits over all these long months about, taking just a random example, widely-disseminated publications suggesting a certain governor never birthed a certain baby, and repeatedly lied about it? <br /><br />Question number 3: how many of us believe that this lawyer generated all that research on this specific issue in between the time Shannon mentioned the RUMORS late on Friday, July 3, and July 4, when this statement was issued just before she was to go on the airwaves? How many of us believe that a whole lot of lawyer time has not long been burned preparing against just this rumor? And why would that be?<br /><br />Now, the language itself is just so rich, but let's just take one example:<br />"The Sports Complex was built in 2002. It is now 2009. While the Federal Government has a process to follow, and that process sometimes takes time, we can categorically state that we are not aware of any 'federal investigation' that has been 'pending' for the last seven years. We are aware of no subpoenas on SBS regarding the Palins." <br /><br />Seriously, Mr. VF, you think you're going to score points by "categorically stat[ing]" that you were not aware of a "'federal investigation' that has been 'pending' for the last seven years"? Because of course it makes so much sense to assume both that a federal investigation would have been launched the moment the building (with a certain deficit of publicly-available building permits being part of the rumored issue here) commenced? And that of course the "Feds" not only immediately would have been on the spot, but would have made the subject of their inquiry known right away to those about whom any rumored inquiries were being made. <br /><br />Oh, and you are "aware of no subpoenas on SBS regarding the Palins." I can't help but noticing your magical shifting tenses, and that you here seem to refer to being aware of no currently effective subpoenas, not to mention having qualified that sentence to read subpeonas "regarding the Palins." I can certainly conceive of all kinds of intriguing other past, present, or future subpoenas which might issue. But again, seriously, Mr. Lawyer Guy, why don't you explain to the public, just for general informational purposes, how many grand jury targets receive notice of who all is getting subpoenas during the course of an investigatory grand jury? Then, just for general educative purposes, why don't you explain how prosecutors, investigators, and WITNESSES are bound not to speak of secret grand jury proceedings?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-11018470269988533832009-07-05T06:38:08.580-08:002009-07-05T06:38:08.580-08:00the FBI isnt gonna say shit about shit. the commen...the FBI isnt gonna say shit about shit. the comment came from a LOW level FBI dude. On another note, when I was a kid we had a hardware store that was way over 100 years old, dark dingy and awesome. Me and Dad would go get stuff for him to fix or build but to this day I cant put together anything that reqiures moe than a few screws.<br /><br />Oh and if the IRS is doint the investigatin', then the FBI can say they aint....sjk from the belly of the planehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16534445418871394872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-26689562588956827932009-07-05T06:36:18.032-08:002009-07-05T06:36:18.032-08:00Wonkette's not to afraid of Van Flein either: ...Wonkette's not to afraid of Van Flein either: http://wonkette.com/409650/insane-sarah-palin-late-at-night-on-july-4-threatens-to-sue-entire-internet-via-twitterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com