tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post3550362833755571138..comments2024-03-18T01:57:20.672-08:00Comments on The Immoral Minority: Why Noam, why?Gryphenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356503547155430235noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-38978312232622975392013-08-21T20:12:21.773-08:002013-08-21T20:12:21.773-08:00Agreed. He has nothing constructive to offer.Agreed. He has nothing constructive to offer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-83150428346811277002013-08-21T18:05:53.958-08:002013-08-21T18:05:53.958-08:00Maybe Bristol is an assistant for Orly Taitz, the ...Maybe Bristol is an assistant for Orly Taitz, the mail-order degree Dentist/Attorney who's been sanctioned by the courts for filing frivolous law-suits about President Obama's birth certificate for the past few years. In fact, maybe Taitz was the OB/Gyn that delivered Tri-G and the rest of Bristle's brood. That's about as likely as CBJ delivering Tri-G with Sarah as the birth mother. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-15711478760049730342013-08-21T16:43:22.001-08:002013-08-21T16:43:22.001-08:00http://discussions.latimes.com/20/lanews/la-pn-nsa...http://discussions.latimes.com/20/lanews/la-pn-nsa-collected-us-emails-20130821/10<br />John Oliver at 3:14 PM August 21, 2013<br /><br />"Unlawfully" implies that criminal penalties will be handed out. And such penalties are only meaningful when applied to individuals. It's completely pointless to hold "the NSA" accountable if the individuals who made the decision to authorize or commit unlawful acts face no penalty.<br /><br />Winslow Wilson at 3:45 PM August 21, 2013<br />You may want to consider that Snowden and Manning were very low level people who were able to get incredible information out of the sloppy security system NSA runs. If they can get this stuff, then what can other unscrupulous people working with the Agency get on you? <br /><br />How deep into your life and home and family can someone affiliated with the system go? Say this person might be a bit perverted or ambitious or say for instance you are dating a former girlfriend of his. What if you hold a position in a job that a friend of his wants and they need to get you fired and out of the way for his freind to get that job.<br /><br />The scenarios of this system are endless. You should read The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. It all started the same way, with National Security as the main concern in Russia at that time. <br /><br />You think it will be different because you don't know the human mind and how it works. It is fear that led us to this place. It is fear that will take it further. <br /><br />You use the word "Unlawfully" now. People make things unlawful as they see fit. The NSA may someday make it "Unlawful" for you to not have a camera in your living room so they can monitor you. If you've nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about; so its a good law right?<br /><br />The NSA is necessary but it is running amock. It needs a leash and we need strong people to step up to the task.<br /><br />greenman108 at 3:54 PM August 21, 2013<br />I wrote the same thing before I bothered to scroll down and read the public replies. You got it. Someone ordered that action. Some craven types did the deed. The story suggests it happened in some mysterious way that was "discovered" years later. <br /><br />abby0802 at 3:14 PM August 21, 2013<br />Is anyone surprised? Orwell and Huxley warned us ... <br /><br />Jerryball at 3:07 PM August 21, 2013<br />It is a fundamental tryptic of the counter-intelligence community to abide three basic rules: Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter-accusations.<br /><br />If you don't have free speech you have to be afraid, you lack a vital part of what it is to be a human being. Your own growth as a person will in time be constricted, because we come to know ourselves by our thoughts. Broad and intrusive surveillance will, definitively, put government in charge. "The people we elect are not your bosses, they are responsible to us." They must answer to us. But if they increasingly control our privacy, "suddenly they're in charge if they know what you're thinking." That kind of power is ultimate. Why would we just give away that power to be used over us?<br /><br />At Nuremberg, the Nazis’ defense was that they were following orders. But they were held to the moral imperative of conscience. They knew what they were doing was wrong and not even orders made it right. This is a core tenet of American liberty, that despite any mandate to the contrary, moral code and law must be upheld and defended even from those who write and enforce the laws. The dawning of Stalinism in America?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-91055451042828777122013-08-21T16:40:49.190-08:002013-08-21T16:40:49.190-08:00Yes and from the comments to the above:
flypsyde F...Yes and from the comments to the above:<br />flypsyde February 25th, 2008 at 9:39 pm<br />Wow. that was a mature response. Not.<br /><br />The commenter pretty muchs sums it up for me, though. I would never vote for Nader because I do believe he’s an insane egomaniac. <b>However, that negates none of the truth of what the commenter wrote. The Dems have licked Bush’s ass for seven years, enabling him almost every step of the way. They are simply one arm of the Corporate Government, put out there so that we Libs can pretend we have someone on “our” side. Please. Fuck them.</b><br /><br /><br />dsidhe February 25th, 2008 at 10:26 pm<br />The fuck of it is, <b>the commenter’s basically right. But I’ve learned that being right is not always good enough, and doing the wrong thing for the right reason (”taking a stand on principle”) is really only morally satisfying if it doesn’t mean the difference between life and death for people who had no choices at all.</b> You’re not just voting for you–you’re voting for all the folks McCain may end up getting killed. It’s worth asking yourself if they’d prefer you be a bit pragmatic or if they’re delighted you’re sticking by your principles.<br /><br />I say this as a longtime Nader fan and defender though not voter. I’ve got several of his books, autographed in a couple cases. But I don’t believe anything Nader is doing will accomplish goals that I share with him, so I don’t vote for him.<br /><br /><br />My connection timed out, so delete if this is a duplicate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-25383210083940687232013-08-21T15:49:42.463-08:002013-08-21T15:49:42.463-08:00Seems a good time to re-visit this TBogg classic:
...Seems a good time to re-visit this TBogg classic:<br /><br />http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/02/25/your-mumia-sweatshirt-wont-get-you-into-heaven-anymore/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-73602748293932039382013-08-21T15:31:06.675-08:002013-08-21T15:31:06.675-08:00Right?!Right?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-5837388143274235562013-08-21T14:08:28.934-08:002013-08-21T14:08:28.934-08:00she really meant to say she works at a dentist off...she really meant to say she works at a dentist office (aunt) and sweeps floorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-5905301614749127172013-08-21T14:05:43.166-08:002013-08-21T14:05:43.166-08:00RKhanlian 3 hours ago
There is something seriously...RKhanlian 3 hours ago<br />There is something seriously wrong with a government that insists on its right to invade the privacy of its citizens while hiding its own actions behind a wall of secrecy.<br />...was a comment on this:<br />http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/08/mannings-sentence-mirandas-detention.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-50986316179728956862013-08-21T14:05:36.628-08:002013-08-21T14:05:36.628-08:00pure BS - HIPAA has nothing to do with confirming ...pure BS - HIPAA has nothing to do with confirming employment<br /><br />You, my dear, should try to get at least a HS education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-71870413667032981202013-08-21T12:42:06.446-08:002013-08-21T12:42:06.446-08:00From Google News:
NSA collected thousands of onli...From Google News: <br />NSA collected thousands of online communications by Americans<br />USA TODAY<br />4 minutes ago<br />Written by<br />Aamer Madhani<br />SHARE 496 CONNECT 214 TWEET 82 COMMENTEMAILMORE. WASHINGTON--The nations' top intelligence official is declassifying three secret U.S.<br />NSA collected thousands of emails from Americans, rebuked by courtFox News<br />NSA misrepresented scope of data collection to secret courtCNN<br />Highly Cited:New Details Show Broader NSA Surveillance ReachWall Street Journal<br />Opinion:NSA collected non-terrorism related emailsPolitico<br />In Depth:NSA gathered thousands of Americans' emails, FISA court records showCBS News<br />Wikipedia:PRISMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-85361203734341160952013-08-21T12:28:41.588-08:002013-08-21T12:28:41.588-08:00Yah, but she's still a flat assed man faced ug...Yah, but she's still a flat assed man faced ugly bitch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-52026930483619352202013-08-21T12:26:53.771-08:002013-08-21T12:26:53.771-08:00“The men the American people admire most extravaga...“The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.” – H. L. Mencken<br /><br />See: Reaction to Greenwald, Snowdon, Chomsky<br /><br />Don't shoot the messenger. Pay attention to the message. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-27435512544865496202013-08-21T12:24:36.076-08:002013-08-21T12:24:36.076-08:00Yes, some things are better and our privacy is now...Yes, some things are better and our privacy is now none. <br /><br />Isn't it interesting that with all the documentation of the fake pregnancy and the Malia Litman campaign to expose the pimp Todd Palin has gone nowhere in the MSM as thy media tries to distract us with shiny objects? Instead of reporting on how our 4th Amendment right to privacy is being violated daily by our out-of-control Homeland Security types and liars to Congress like James Clapper? <br /><br />How many in our government have been blackmailed? <br /><br />How many in the MSM have been blackmailed? <br /><br />Why has Sarah Palin been allowed to spew her idiocy, but the scared people in Alasssska have been too bullied to come forward and stop her from her potshots from her Quitter Sidelines? I put the blame for Ms Death Panels and Ms Hopey Changey stuff like this on Alassskans for allowing her to get so out of control and inflicting her continued BS on the rest of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-15262364172703953742013-08-21T12:16:15.903-08:002013-08-21T12:16:15.903-08:00Noam Chomsky had his day of erudition, influence a...Noam Chomsky had his day of erudition, influence and admiration.<br />Apparently, his arteries hardened and his brain shriveled. <br />His time was then, and this is now. <br />May his dotage be kind to him.<br />fromthediagonalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-29804145607140764872013-08-21T12:02:48.027-08:002013-08-21T12:02:48.027-08:00Very well said.Very well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-73183348139264735112013-08-21T11:30:00.797-08:002013-08-21T11:30:00.797-08:00Wow! I never pictured Chomsky as a guy who'd s...Wow! I never pictured Chomsky as a guy who'd support the intimidation of Subaru owners. <br /><br />http://gawker.com/5506682/sarah-palins-fun-new-game-stop-drivers-with-obama-bumper-stickers-and-yell-at-themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-15660512689514464212013-08-21T11:24:34.793-08:002013-08-21T11:24:34.793-08:00More like the wasilla retarded hillbillies. Kardas...More like the wasilla retarded hillbillies. Kardashians have intelligence, class and talent compared to the racist violent palin klan.Game of Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10092300242168251643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-83926599926880650992013-08-21T11:10:53.993-08:002013-08-21T11:10:53.993-08:00So much for idolatry...and I wasn't referring ...So much for idolatry...and I wasn't referring to the Palin cult.<br /><br /><br />When we put folks on pedestals, they are bound to disappoint. The fault, "dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves." (Apologies to W.S.)conscious at lasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07949603921251341461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-7313171919138280702013-08-21T11:03:18.249-08:002013-08-21T11:03:18.249-08:00I am pleasantly surprised that the comments on thi...I am pleasantly surprised that the comments on this post on Palin did not devolve into a highschool mean girl bitch-fest on her looks. I usually enjoy reading the comments on IM, except when it is a post about Palin, where I find the commenters stoop to her level of nastiness. Instead the comments on this post focused on her intellect, her ethics, her hubris and her greed - which are all perfectly legitimate targets and merit derision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-63472187193601092372013-08-21T11:00:19.443-08:002013-08-21T11:00:19.443-08:00Bristol, have another muffin and STFU, you disgust...Bristol, have another muffin and STFU, you disgusting Ho.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-88285030668971514172013-08-21T10:59:14.190-08:002013-08-21T10:59:14.190-08:008:57
I suggested your ffone idea a while back. Ho...8:57 <br />I suggested your ffone idea a while back. How many dermatologist offices can there be. Probably a few in anchorage but still a do-able excursion. I agree it is probably a friend of uber doctor CBJ who is bearding as Barstool's employer. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-89513893582116356502013-08-21T10:40:19.423-08:002013-08-21T10:40:19.423-08:00Bristol on "hard work" is like Kris Jenn...Bristol on "hard work" is like Kris Jenner defending how hard her daughter Kim works. I just don't see it. The Palins have become Alaska's own Kardashian tribe. Please keep them all in Alaska. It's hard enough for the rest of the country to have to see the latest Kardashian pics on the scandal sheets at grocery store check out lines.<br />BeaglemomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-29157611992298298262013-08-21T10:34:49.111-08:002013-08-21T10:34:49.111-08:00+1+1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-6387819756234051012013-08-21T10:15:54.358-08:002013-08-21T10:15:54.358-08:00Yeah, the Far Left has made heroes of Snowden, Gre...Yeah, the Far Left has made heroes of Snowden, Greenwald and Manning. They find their heroes in strange places and seem to like them with a hint of treason and hell bent on undermining America. I don't get it. The left seems as fractured as the right, at times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-13171091692691351132013-08-21T10:15:26.810-08:002013-08-21T10:15:26.810-08:00Gmafb to compare the gop/far right (same damn thi...Gmafb to compare the gop/far right (same damn thing to dems/far left (no such thing) is idiotic and is a false equivalence to say the least.Game of Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10092300242168251643noreply@blogger.com