tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post693470502825426746..comments2024-03-18T01:57:20.672-08:00Comments on The Immoral Minority: University of Notre Dame decides to take Obama administration to court rather than allow their female employees to access birth control.Gryphenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356503547155430235noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-85048530644463115282012-06-02T02:11:19.753-08:002012-06-02T02:11:19.753-08:00The issue of rising world population is not one th...The issue of rising world population is not one that will be around forever. The growth rate has slowed dramatically since the year 2000, so that although the world population is still increasing, it is doing so at a slower rate.<br /><br />According to the United Nations, in 1970 women were having an average of 4.5 children. The worldwide average had dropped to 2.7 children by the year 2000. By the year 2050, the UN predicts the worldwide average will be about 2.05, slightly less than we need to maintain population at the current level. By the year 2100, we will be seeing decline.<br /><br />Reasons for the population explosion, were a result of decrease in infant deaths and an increase in life expectancy. The result of modern medicine, increased availability of food and public health reforms begun in late 18th century.<br /><br />As educational reforms and child labour laws were introduced, children became less economically viable and parents, certainly in the increasingly prosperous Western world, began to have a lot less children. As prosperity continues to grow in the rest of the world, we will see more and more parents making the economic decision to have less children.<br /><br />At this time of course, China has a strict one-child policy to combat their own growing population. Their policy will soon be more successful than they could have hoped for and I'm guessing it won't be long before they reverse this policy.<br /><br />To illustrate population decline on a personal note, my grandfather, as a good Irish Catholic, came from a family of 15 children. My father was in a family of nine, I was one of four, and as a father myself, have two children with firm plans to have no more.<br /><br />World population - a fascinating subject.Garageman_mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-19318349055818740132012-05-24T17:22:29.095-08:002012-05-24T17:22:29.095-08:00The current Pope was an admitted member of the Hit...The current Pope was an admitted member of the Hitler Youth (everyone was apparently doing it in those days). We all know how that turned out.<br /><br />While never a Catholic, I knew the church was corrupt when my absolute best friend since first grade, in 1970, was raped by her priest at age 15. Her parents never believed her, the priest said she lied (I knew she didn't). Two years later, the priest was "moved to another parish," after several other "incidents with young girls," and my best friend turned to drugs to deal with the pain of not being able to stop the memories or his abuse of other young girls.<br /><br />It was then that we began to travel in different circles. I lost track of her.<br /><br />Years later, when she had come safely through to the other side - after a lot of pain, trauma and psychology - she explained to me the hell she had lived all those years - criticized and punished by her family and church, called a "slut" by the local Bishop because he accused her of "seducing" the priest and "sending HIM to hell." (Nothing could have been farther from the truth - she was the poster child of, well, childhood)<br /><br />The Catholic Church is a corrupt, self serving, power hungry, money hungry, cult that has ruined millions of lives. It will cover its own ass in order to move its agenda, regardless the circumstances or the human pain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-89397408660937458042012-05-23T14:10:59.436-08:002012-05-23T14:10:59.436-08:00The good bishops are worried that Obama will "...The good bishops are worried that Obama will "stangle" their ministry. Soon to be Cardinal, Archbishop Dolan, of NY said "Obama's mandate will strangle" freedom of religion, and the catholic church's ability to feed the poor, clothe the naked, fondle pre pubescent boys and girls (who says they don't include women?) while shuffling them and covering them up. <br /><br />The Government gives Catholic Charities 3.8 million dollars a year, and the church self funds insurance, and the exemption in the health care act isn't enough, So he'll consider holding back services to the poor over the contraceptive issue?<br /><br />Here's a clue- Don't take Government money AT ALL. Pay taxes like the rest of us, but don't dare blame closing schools, cutting back services on contraceptive coverage. Blame it on your pedophile priests and cover up. Clearly, they take the Republican model of suffering, take money from the government with one hand, then scream about government interfering with their agenda. <br /><br />here he is pissing and moaning, but there's plenty of other links. MSNBC had some commentary a few days back, but I can't find the link on their site. <br /><br />http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76614.html<br /><br />Love how people can cover the sun with one finger!<br /><br />Great Post, btw, and great comments.Anita Winecoolernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-35292286766436187112012-05-23T11:39:55.538-08:002012-05-23T11:39:55.538-08:00Pefect!Pefect!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-55245734813537155222012-05-23T11:38:56.460-08:002012-05-23T11:38:56.460-08:00The United States of America is a fucking mess!!!!...The United States of America is a fucking mess!!!! From government to politicians, insurance companies, religions, the majority of Republicans, racists, bankers, Wall Street and on and on! <br /><br />Where is there no corruption in our lives today?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-85732905762263473892012-05-23T11:32:33.390-08:002012-05-23T11:32:33.390-08:00There should be NO tax write offs for any church, ...There should be NO tax write offs for any church, ministers, pastors, religious teachers, etc. This should include real estate taxes on their residences, churches, religious schools that they own that would normally support the communities/cities in which they live. <br /><br />Religion is nothing more than made up bullshit! And, more and more U.S. citizens are turning away from it. Certain folks have taken to shoving it down our throats - combining it w/government (which shouldn't be done!)-and, I think, it's going to have more and more of a negative effect upon the population.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-75147909820905108862012-05-23T11:29:23.894-08:002012-05-23T11:29:23.894-08:00World Population Growth (approx)
0 billion – (begi...World Population Growth (approx)<br />0 billion – (beginning of time)<br /> 20,000++++(to 1st billion - modern man)<br />1 billion – 1830<br /> 97 years (to second billion)<br />2 billion - 1927<br /> 33 years (to third billion)<br />3 billion – 1960<br /> 14 years (to fourth billion)<br />4 billion – 1974<br /> 13 years (to fifth billion)<br />5 billion – 1987<br /> 12 years (to sixth billion)<br />6 billion – 1999<br /> 12 years (to seventh billion)<br />7 billion – 2011<br /> ?? years (to eighth billion)<br />8 billon - ????<br /> ?? years (to ninth billion)<br />9 billion - ????<br /> ?? years (to tenth billion)<br />10 billion - ????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-54388491219739563842012-05-23T10:43:53.505-08:002012-05-23T10:43:53.505-08:00Father Hans Kung is still working for progress wit...Father Hans Kung is still working for progress within the Catholic Church. Last year he was one of a number of prominent theologians who signed a document urging sweeping reforms within the church. <br /><br />Note that primary credit for the formulation of oral contraceptives is given to another Catholic, Dr. John Rock, who was a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Harvard. He saw the pill as a natural method of contraception. <br /><br />Using the standard of primacy of conscience, most Catholic women use or have used forms of contraception other than the Creighton method or the old rhythm method. The church is not composed primarily of old men who are out of touch with reality. The church is made up of people of all stripes, from the dogmatic and narrow-minded to the liberal and generous. It's dynamic and it evolves, often as a result of conflict under its own roof. <br /><br />There's a tendency to oversimplify and frame moral issues in stark black and white, when in truth they're complex. Read or listen to what Andrew Sullivan has to say about his Catholic faith. He's well-educated (doctorate from Harvard) and articulates clearly the pros and cons of the church, as well as his own reasons for belief. <br /><br />Look up Father Ryan, pastor of St. James Cathedral in Seattle. He refused to allow collection of signatures in the church for an anti-gay marriage referendum in Washington State, and his wasn't the only church to do so. Fr. Ryan explained that it would be hurtful to the cherished homosexual members of his parish.<br /><br />So yes, there are many people of faith who do not stand in the way of progress, but actively promote it, and many of them do so within their own religious institutions.Judenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-24620223215452177422012-05-23T10:25:26.897-08:002012-05-23T10:25:26.897-08:00And don't those institutions offer coverage no...And don't those institutions offer coverage now? I would be they do...it's part of any standard group policy.meredithphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17683287411020125224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-16780371561765690192012-05-23T10:12:12.613-08:002012-05-23T10:12:12.613-08:00In your post you quote eminent theologian Hans Ku...In your post you quote eminent theologian Hans Kung; who was recently in the news concerning the gala 50th anniversary celebration of the church changing Second Vatican Council.<br /><br />"Küng misses Vatican II celebration<br />17 May 2012<br /><br />Theologian Hans Küng has turned down an invitation to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Second Vatican Council at the German Katholikentag at Mannheim, held from tomorrow until Sunday.<br /><br />The Central Committee of German Catholics (ZdK), Germany's largest Catholic lay organisation which is organising the Congress and has more than 12 million members, invited Fr Küng and the former President of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, Cardinal Walter Kasper, to participate in their "Council Gala". But four days before the congress was due to begin, Fr Küng declined.<br /><br />"I was honoured to receive the invitation but is one really in the mood to celebrate at a time when the Church is in such sore distress?" Fr Küng asked in his four-page reply. "In my opinion there is no reason for a festive Council Gala but rather for an honest service of penance or a funeral service," he said."<br /><br />http://www.thetablet.co.uk/latest-news/4128Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-88783515120254538182012-05-23T09:52:45.874-08:002012-05-23T09:52:45.874-08:00The Pope's impugned infallibility was the linc...The Pope's impugned infallibility was the linchpin of why i left the Roman Catholic Church in my mid-twenties. As a child, i struggled with some of the other tenets, but as an adult ~ that one bothered me the most.<br /><br />My sainted Irish Catholic grandmother was disappointed that i only had five kids; she probably thought we weren't doing it enough...Hammer and a Featherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10957954505256009516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-60719586789005615562012-05-23T09:41:14.913-08:002012-05-23T09:41:14.913-08:00Let's all remember, that this is not limited t...Let's all remember, that this is not limited to the Catholic church.<br /><br />Romney, as an elder in the Mormon church, once visited a woman in the hospital whose physicians told her she needed to abort a dying fetus to save her life. He told her she couldn't do that. She and her husband did not listen to him, and she survived. They both left the church afterwards.<br /><br />Had they not, had they obeyed their church elder, she and the fetus would have been dead and the husband left to raise their other children alone.<br /><br />Churches should focus on spiritual health, not physical health. Their dogma is not a substitute for science, for health-saving truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-81469259169590712662012-05-23T09:38:39.268-08:002012-05-23T09:38:39.268-08:00Where is the compassion, the concern, the care for...Where is the compassion, the concern, the care for the sick, the needy, the poor? The Catholic church through its business interests are just like other businesses - bottom line-oriented. They do not want to focus on the medical aspects; they want to control who gets what. The more kids, the more customers - for the church and for the hospitals and clinics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-79169905724785607902012-05-23T09:36:14.602-08:002012-05-23T09:36:14.602-08:00Good points here - hospitals (often owned by docto...Good points here - hospitals (often owned by doctors and insurance companies) fought single payer because of the big cut in profits they'd face - no more 50 dollars for a box of Kleenex, e.g. Health care is Big Business - for both the secular and religious hospitals.<br /><br />There are great doctors, hospitals, nurses and staff everywhere but it's the owners of those clinics and hospitals that work in conjunction with insurance companies and medical supply companies (supplies and machines) that do not want to give up on the lucrative aspect of providing health care. Greed rules too many.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-60288732878788543852012-05-23T09:29:37.142-08:002012-05-23T09:29:37.142-08:00I realize you are exaggerating by calling Viagra &...I realize you are exaggerating by calling Viagra "evil" to make a point, but for those readers (Sarah, anyone?) who might not realize that, meds like Viagra can restore a man's sense of self, enable a married couple to continue to express genuine affection for one another, and also, too, relieve sexual stress and therefore smooth over tensions (hey, Sarah - maybe that will help with Todd's problems). Anyway, I think we are making the same point, just from different ends of the spectrum. The Catholic church doesn't treat men and women equally - never has and I suspect will not for ages to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-42188712993121288822012-05-23T09:26:15.121-08:002012-05-23T09:26:15.121-08:00Great point. It is by far cheaper for insurance co...Great point. It is by far cheaper for insurance companies to provide contraceptives than to pay for prenatal and delivery and then post-natal care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-84055753678957437612012-05-23T09:24:25.610-08:002012-05-23T09:24:25.610-08:00See comment above for a link to an article on this...See comment above for a link to an article on this with the Vatican's own exorcist pointing the finger to the highest level in the church.<br /><br />Here's the link again:<br /><br />http://churchandstate.org.uk/2012/04/the-cross-of-papal-infallibility/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-15680812094193098862012-05-23T08:31:06.553-08:002012-05-23T08:31:06.553-08:00Bring it on Catholic Churches. You bring it to th...Bring it on Catholic Churches. You bring it to the courts. Go ahead. Let the newspapers write all about it and publish the transcripts. Oh yeah, the publicity will do so much good for you agenda. Uh huh.<br /><br />And when the women of America win the suit against the Catholic Church, you will have, under your own accord, destroyed yet another pillar of your church. And I can't wait to see it crumble to the dust. <br /><br />I can't tell you how many seemingly intelligent caring people I have met who are Catholics and swallow hook, line and sinker, those precepts that would otherwise be alien to their characters.hedgewytchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-64778880619020475752012-05-23T08:27:20.529-08:002012-05-23T08:27:20.529-08:00I just read an article stating that the Catholic ...I just read an article stating that the Catholic Church is threating not to treat anyone that is not a Catholic at any of their emergency rooms. It's because they don't want the birth control. i say take away their tax benifits, exemptions and money for running those hospitals that the taxpayers give them. Single payer is the only way to go, the employeris out of the mix. Everyone could use birthcontrol or not other womenshealth concers could be used or not.Instead of all these laws against women rights, stupid stupid for not going this way. How christian are these ppl anyway. Would christ turn ayway someone? noAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-61377663748089429272012-05-23T08:06:39.441-08:002012-05-23T08:06:39.441-08:00Given the child abuse and condemnation of the grea...Given the child abuse and condemnation of the great work of nuns, why is the Pope considered any less human and fallible than the guy who brought Romney his magic underpants, i.e. Joseph Smith? To me, the child abuse involving the catholic church was worse than the polygamy of Smith. Unfortunately, child abuse has also occurred a great deal in both churches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-76843870091850893802012-05-23T07:49:14.999-08:002012-05-23T07:49:14.999-08:00Love this!!Love this!!omommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13664167848641663536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-72334202988360624422012-05-23T07:47:23.781-08:002012-05-23T07:47:23.781-08:00The opening day of any court case for this issue s...The opening day of any court case for this issue should coincide with the official termination of tax exemption for every Catholic archdiocese and parish in the U.S. <br /><br />And "freedom of religion" should be more broadly understood to be "freedom FROM religion".omommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13664167848641663536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-31245247512342113852012-05-23T07:35:44.677-08:002012-05-23T07:35:44.677-08:00Whether or not the Catholic Church sues the Obama ...Whether or not the Catholic Church sues the Obama Administration, their reputation cannot be salvaged. They are an international crime syndicate that sought to cover up and protect THE largest pedophile ring in the history of mankind. The lawsuit does Jack Shit to erase THAT stain.<br /><br />As to the doctrine of papal infallibility, that it is just so much bullshit is easily pointed out: <br /><br />Does "papal infallibility" apply only to Piux IX, or to all popes? If it applies equally to all previous popes, then how come NONE of Pius IX's predecessors spoke of this infallibility? That would seem to be a BIG oversight, thus rendering them fallible. But if they are infallible, this cannot be so.<br /><br />If it is ONLY Pius IX that is infallible, how come he gets to declare himself Super-Duper-Extra-Strength-Pope and everybody else were just regular popes? It all sounds a tad too convenient, n'est-ce pas?<br /><br />How can ANYBODY argue that pedophile enabler John Paul II was "infallible" when he merely papered over the priest pedophile scandal?<br /><br />Catholicism is naught but a cult of personality around the pope du jour.Gasmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-40092156032995376262012-05-23T07:34:55.466-08:002012-05-23T07:34:55.466-08:00Another still-recovering Catholic here. I think t...Another still-recovering Catholic here. I think the best thing to come from the RCC is Michaelangelo's David. I didn't know the expression WTF? in high school, but it certainly applied to [ostensibly] celibate priests and nuns "educating" us on marriage. The bishop's letter on birth control in the very early '70s did it for me. Walked out and never returned. Funny the RCC can be fallible on Limbo, on eating meat on Fridays, divorce [you can buy an annulment if you have enough money] but rock solid right on contraception. Old white men, bah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-55960459004523671192012-05-23T07:21:49.927-08:002012-05-23T07:21:49.927-08:00Title VII of the Civil Rights Act states that you ...Title VII of the Civil Rights Act states that you can't discriminate on the basis of religion, gender, race, and national origin. If that is the case, how can these employers discriminate on the basis of their religion? A woman who needs health care that included contraception will not apply, may quit or be fired if she tries to fight this. <br /><br />If they want to be a truly religious organization, then do so. If that is the case, don't ask for a single penny of federal or state aid. <br /><br />This from the boys who feel their nuns, providing the poor, sick and hungry are overreaching. This from the men who brought more child abuse on small children than any other organization. Come on, Catholics, start revolting. Not a dime in the offering and no parishioners at mass until such time that women and children are acknowledged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com