tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post8152276706977489636..comments2024-03-27T01:27:21.576-08:00Comments on The Immoral Minority: Thanks to Donald Trump Utah might vote for Democratic presidential nominee for the first time in 50 years. Gryphenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02356503547155430235noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-22596219773564496412016-03-22T19:00:38.903-08:002016-03-22T19:00:38.903-08:00I wanted to vote for Howard Dean but he wasn't...I wanted to vote for Howard Dean but he wasn't even on the ticket by the time the primary came to my state. <br /><br />Resentful? In spades. <br /><br />I am more than a little resentful that the Dem Leadership decides who the nominee is, not the voters. Doesn't matter how we vote, they have rigged this for Hillary. <br /><br />Big mistake. <br /><br />I don't think Utah is an outlier. <br /><br />I think if Trump is the nominee that Bernie will attract more disaffected Republican and Independent voters than Hillary will. <br /><br />It is taking a chance skewing the deck for Hillary. There is a risk the Dems will lose enough votes that whoever the Republican is, they'll win. <br /><br />What if the brokered RNC puts Paul Ryan on the ticket?<br /><br />I'm glad Bernie is continuing to run. I don't think any "scrutiny" is going to hurt him as much as it will hurt Hillary. <br /><br />And if he's not on my ballot when I vote in June. I'm WRITING HIM IN if only to stick it to the dem leadership who thinks they know better than the people. That is as bad as the Republicans. mlaiuppahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13792165896828163411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-85504311294485103212016-03-21T21:20:36.960-08:002016-03-21T21:20:36.960-08:00Of course not every president gets what he or she ...Of course not every president gets what he or she wants. I know that. You know that. Based on what I've read, a lot of Sanders supporters don't seem to know it.<br /><br />How many Sanders supporters are royally pissed off at Obama right now because he didn't do everything he said he would (and not just in his first two years)?<br /><br />What lesson about how government works and the importance of voting was learned before the 2012 election? I'd say none.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-43759990834505313362016-03-21T20:16:23.621-08:002016-03-21T20:16:23.621-08:00No President gets everything he/she wants. Obama ...No President gets everything he/she wants. Obama hasn't, Hillary won't, Bernie won't. Anyone who knows anything about American government will understand this. Bernie's big point to his supporters is that we need a political revolution to accomplish his agenda, and that is true. If young people don't get everything they want, that's a good lesson on the need for everyone to vote. I believe that whatever can be done in that direction needs to be done. Just having the conversation puts us closer to these goals. If Bernie did have majorities in Congress, he would absolutely go for all he wants. Obama could have in those first two years but he didn't; he was too compromising with the enemy. Republicans can decimate an entire state within two years. Every day in Wisconsin we hear about a new damaging bill--recently we have been allowed to carry switchblades! Dems need to be less cautious and accommodating to the other side to reverse such travesty when they have the chance. Maybe we have learned this by now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-54906478311790799922016-03-21T16:14:14.650-08:002016-03-21T16:14:14.650-08:00When I hear "Utah" I imagine the stepfor...When I hear "Utah" I imagine the stepford wives meet son of Mitt. We used to live in a blue section of a red section of Philly, and we've moved to the outer suburbs. It's so refreshing to see neighbors getting along, not worrying about vandalism over whose lawn sign you have, Bernie OR Hillary. But every one who has "Trump" or a GOP candidate's sign ends up with them missing. <br />I really don't like it, but after having had it happen to me many times, it's kind of karmic retribution, but it still sends the wrong message. We have freedom of expression, if some dipshit still has their Rick Santorum sign out, after he dropped out already, kind of deserves to get it stolen. <br />I'm voting for Hillary in this election, but if she doesn't become the nominee, I'd rather vote for Bernie than waste my vote.Anita Winecoolernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-69696098314163429562016-03-21T13:38:17.074-08:002016-03-21T13:38:17.074-08:00I really want to believe, but I'm cynical abou...I really want to believe, but I'm cynical about Sanders being able to pull it off. I know how he says it can be done, but I want to know how he can get it done.<br /><br />A lot of students who are now demanding (a word used by the million students march) free tuition and forgiven student loans are going to be very disappointed. They aren't looking at these as goals or ideals; they see this as something that WILL HAPPEN if Sanders is elected.<br /><br />Perhaps Sanders should have been working hard all these years on getting more and more progressives (or even Democrats) elected at the local and state-level. I'd feel much better about his chances for a real change in the paradigm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-45792538990945774752016-03-21T13:26:35.184-08:002016-03-21T13:26:35.184-08:00OT VP>
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory...OT VP><br />http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/kasich-running-mate-republican-ticket-37786288Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-26468106967150627372016-03-21T12:36:02.136-08:002016-03-21T12:36:02.136-08:0010:11, closing corporate loopholes alone will save...10:11, closing corporate loopholes alone will save $900 billion. Ending corporate welfare (subsidies) will save $135 billion. Restoring the estate tax for the top 0.3% will bring in $319 billion. (These are just a few of Bernie's projected savings.) The tuition-free college will cost $750 billion. There is money to do this. Europe does it and has been doing it at least since 1977 when I went to college (free, as an American) there. We can quibble about projections of costs and savings, but the point is that if we don't have this as a goal, we will never get there. At least Bernie is making what used to seem impossible possible. I imagine the same debate was had when free high school became a thing (oh, horrors!). It's a matter of priorities and the middle class has been led to expect so little in America that this seems like pie-in-the-sky. Go see Michael Moore's "Where to Invade Next." It will put things in perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-54308066190207455692016-03-21T12:02:47.813-08:002016-03-21T12:02:47.813-08:00"America actually trusts Bernie.
America does..."America actually trusts Bernie.<br />America doesn't trust Hillary at all."<br /><br />What bold generalizations to make. <br /><br />Hillary Clinton has the most votes of anyone running right now. Does that sound like America doesn't trust her?<br /><br />Do you think most Republicans (who are part of America as much as we'd like to forget some times) trust Bernie?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-3153236273078055782016-03-21T11:59:58.220-08:002016-03-21T11:59:58.220-08:00I don't know where you got your information, 8...I don't know where you got your information, 8:28, but students can register to vote at college even if their permanent address is in another state or town. It doesn't matter what their driver's license says. They just have to register locally (in their state) with their school address and provide proof of residence, a college ID, etc, depending on what the requirement is for the state they are in.<br /><br />The only reason to drive them home or get an absentee ballot is if they want to vote in their home town/state elections instead of their college town/state elections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-58486601615471726062016-03-21T11:47:42.707-08:002016-03-21T11:47:42.707-08:00Senator Professor Elizabeth Warren's twitter t...Senator Professor Elizabeth Warren's twitter take-down of Trump is a must-see!!! Love her more than ever! She hit on the only way to defeat Trump by exposing him as an impostor and loser. I hope she has started a trend.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/elizabethformaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-9058052629695579542016-03-21T11:42:42.671-08:002016-03-21T11:42:42.671-08:00Gryphon: I'm a Sander's supporter. I like ...Gryphon: I'm a Sander's supporter. I like both Hillary and Bernie, but I have chosen to side with Bernie for one reason:<br /><br />America actually trusts Bernie.<br />America doesn't trust Hillary at all.<br /><br />It's not a matter of Scrutiny. It's a matter of almost 20 years of constant attacks on her character. It's not something she can help. It's not her fault.<br /><br />But she would have no trust by the American People from day 1 in office. And that, imho, is a crippling handicap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-17598883644974443952016-03-21T10:43:06.181-08:002016-03-21T10:43:06.181-08:00They know Bernie is Jewish. Do they know Trump'...They know Bernie is Jewish. Do they know Trump's daughter and grandchildren are Jewish?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-6083125544755626662016-03-21T10:38:32.742-08:002016-03-21T10:38:32.742-08:00I had to go through the same thing when I was in c...I had to go through the same thing when I was in college in the 80s. I figured it out and voted. Back then, there was no internet to speak of and I actually had to call my home precinct, then mail in a request. After my first election, I figured out how to vote in my College state.<br /><br />It definitely takes more motivation and action for a college student (or any long distance voter) to vote, but it's not really that difficult in this digital age and anyone who is that invested in a candidate should do their homework and get it done. <br /><br />Register for an absentee ballot in your home state. Do it in person, or online. When your ballot comes, fill it out. Then go to the post office and get a stamp (most campuses have their own post offices and will sell you a single stamp and even mail the letter for you). Mail it before the deadline. If you haven't received the ballot and are worried you won't in time to send it back, call your home state election board and ask what's going on.<br /><br />Most college students are capable of doing that, aren't they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-11256949702282903392016-03-21T10:26:43.283-08:002016-03-21T10:26:43.283-08:00Who called you un-American?
It's really not ...Who called you un-American? <br /><br />It's really not surprising that Democrats party heads are supporting a Democrat.<br /><br />I'm sorry you didn't get to vote. That sucks. But how is what happened to you "voter suppression from your own party"? Do you think they purposefully left the fax offline? I checked and there was an option to e-mail it as well as to fax or mail it. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me. <br /><br />Here in Colorado, we didn't have the benefit of an absentee caucus form and our caucus was at 7:30 on a Tuesday night. <br /><br />It sounds like the Democrats in Washington are doing their best to make sure everyone who wants to vote, can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-62214089593489891042016-03-21T10:23:29.748-08:002016-03-21T10:23:29.748-08:00Nothing is free, he is going to pay for free colle...Nothing is free, he is going to pay for free college ie tuition even for the rich kids as long as they go to a public university.<br /><br />The payers are the middle class and poor since Congress will never pass bill to raise taxes on the rich or corporations!!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-49232235295740170662016-03-21T10:21:24.820-08:002016-03-21T10:21:24.820-08:00What until they find out Bernie is Jewish.What until they find out Bernie is Jewish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-33156135538343520812016-03-21T10:11:38.296-08:002016-03-21T10:11:38.296-08:00I have two young children and would love to look f...I have two young children and would love to look forward to free college tuition for them at our wonderful state colleges.<br /><br />However, I'm also a poorly-paid professor working for a state college. <br /><br />Bernie Sanders says he want to eliminate tuition for state schools, eliminate college debt, while also forcing state colleges to increase the use of tenured and tenure-track professors and hire more faculty.<br /><br />All of that sounds wonderful! <br /><br />How is he (or, rather, state university systems) going to pull it off without slashing already low professor salaries? <br /><br />I'm not being snarky. I really want to know. Even getting rid of most of the administrative fat won't cover it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-9829967023852614842016-03-21T09:42:00.685-08:002016-03-21T09:42:00.685-08:00Unless you are a member of the electoral college y...Unless you are a member of the electoral college your vote doesn't elect the president. I voted for Gore in 2000, he had a majority of the popular vote. Did we have 4 years of President Gore? Nope, see what I mean?<br /><br />Midterms and local elections are much more important than voting for POTUS as your vote actually counts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-17241982298341135242016-03-21T09:26:18.824-08:002016-03-21T09:26:18.824-08:00Anon 8:28-WA caucuses are next Saturday. When our ...Anon 8:28-WA caucuses are next Saturday. When our local "caucus boss" spoke to the Head Caucus Boss, it was obvious who the party heads were pushing. Not Bernie, as we've seen for months. I found out for the first time that there is a caucus absentee form. My husband and I are both disabled, with random access to a post office. Since there is a fax no. on the form, and all forms had to be in Seattle by last Friday, we tried for 3 days to fax our forms. The number was busy. For at least 3 days, and maybe more for all I know. More voter suppression, from my own party. At least they bought the stamp for the envelope I couldn't use. BTW-old woman here, who is NOT a Hillary fan. Apparently that makes me an idiot, or un-American, or something. Guess I'll be burning in Hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-45774972011874533342016-03-21T09:03:48.868-08:002016-03-21T09:03:48.868-08:00We are backing Bernie Sanders because he told coll...We are backing Bernie Sanders because he told college students he would get us free college. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-73087457633769746042016-03-21T09:00:49.183-08:002016-03-21T09:00:49.183-08:00Students protesting they want free college. Neil C...Students protesting they want free college. Neil Cavuto talks to the Million Students March nationwide organizer and asked a few questions. The college Million Students March is asking for free college and forgive college debts. <br /><br />BERNIE BERNIE<br /><br />https://youtu.be/Zmji36q8E4oAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-5440996656561137642016-03-21T08:49:24.827-08:002016-03-21T08:49:24.827-08:00Anonymous8:24 AM I wouldn't know. The only vo...Anonymous8:24 AM I wouldn't know. The only vote thrown away is the vote not voted at all. And I vote in Every election.Otto Katzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770693952758574341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-75890256700475187982016-03-21T08:41:51.946-08:002016-03-21T08:41:51.946-08:00Anon 8:28, tell your college student child there&#...Anon 8:28, tell your college student child there's nothing free except for tuition. No free college. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-76553614541895536992016-03-21T08:37:13.291-08:002016-03-21T08:37:13.291-08:00Maple 7:57, one thing young college students keeps...Maple 7:57, one thing young college students keeps saying is that they are voting for Sanders because they want free college like Sanders told them.<br /><br />Hellooo college students, Sanders mentioned free tuition not free college. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9361564.post-36176079952294046012016-03-21T08:35:59.130-08:002016-03-21T08:35:59.130-08:00http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/20/37619...http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/20/3761911/trump-tuscan/<br /><br />dRumpf said><br />“I give him credit for having spirit. He wanted to take down those horrible, profanity-laced signs,” Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com