As many of you undoubtedly remember, when Sarah Palin was first criticized for using the crosshair images on her "Take Back the 20" campaign, she responded by lamely attempting to compare it to the combat rhetoric used in athletic contests in her next Facebook post.
Warning: Subject to New Politically Correct Language Police Censorship
by Sarah Palin on Sunday, March 28, 2010 at 12:59pm
March Madness battles rage! My family and I join millions of Americans enjoying college basketball’s finest through March Madness. Underdogs always get my vote as we watch intense competition bring out the best in these accomplished teams.
The Final Four is an intense, contested series (kind of like a heated, competitive primary election), so best of luck to all teams, and watch for this principle lived out: the team that wins is the team that wants it more.
To the teams that desire making it this far next year: Gear up! In the battle, set your sights on next season’s targets! From the shot across the bow – the first second’s tip-off – your leaders will be in the enemy’s crosshairs, so you must execute strong defensive tactics. You won’t win only playing defense, so get on offense! The crossfire is intense, so penetrate through enemy territory by bombing through the press, and use your strong weapons – your Big Guns – to drive to the hole. Shoot with accuracy; aim high and remember it takes blood, sweat and tears to win.
Focus on the goal and fight for it. If the gate is closed, go over the fence. If the fence is too high, pole vault in. If that doesn’t work, parachute in. If the other side tries to push back, your attitude should be “go for it.” Get in their faces and argue with them. (Sound familiar?!) Every possession is a battle; you’ll only win the war if you’ve picked your battles wisely. No matter how tough it gets, never retreat, instead RELOAD!
- Sarah Palin
As you can plainly see, Palin's response to the call for her to end her violent and dangerous rhetoric was to, in her now famous words, "never retreat, instead RELOAD!"
Well yesterday Jared Lee Loughner did EXACTLY what Sarah Palin, and many other vitriolic commentators, have been suggesting for the last two years. He did not retreat, he reloaded. Shooting eighteen innocent people, and killing six, including this beautiful little girl, Christina Taylor Green.
THE Tucson shooting's youngest victim, nine-year-old Christina Taylor Green, had just been elected to her school student council and was just getting interested in politics.
When a neighbour asked her if she wanted to tag along to a local political event outside a Safeway supermarket, she jumped at the chance.
Christina was one of six people killed when Jared Loughner opened fire at US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords's ''Congress on Your Corner'' meeting.
Christina, who was born on September 11, 2001, had featured in a book Faces of Hope: Babies born on 9/11.
I have been pretty upset since I first read about this shooting yesterday morning, but I have managed to deal with it by putting up posts, focusing on the political fallout, and identifying links to Palin and other hatemongers.
But today I watched an interview with this little girl's mother on MSNBC, and I am not handling it anymore.
It is one thing to hear about the deaths of six people and to think that is a horrible tragedy. It is quite another to see this child's face and to suddenly feel the loss of her young life as if she were my own.
I am literally typing this with tears running down my cheeks. All I want to do is take that picture and slam it down in front of Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and yes, Sarah Palin, and say "Do you understand now, why it is wrong to continue agitating people who may take your violent rhetoric literally? Do you fucking get it NOW?"
I know that today is Sunday, and that Sarah Palin's stupid show is on, but I am not sure I can watch it.
I am so heart sick over this incident that I just don't know that I can deal with watching Palin cavort with her still living daughters as this child's mother prepares to say her final good-byes to her precious baby.
Right now I just want Sarah Palin to go away forever.
After all, hasn't she done enough?
Thank you, Gryphen. You are doing more than all the MSM and other outlets combined to remind us all of the run-up to this terrible tragedy.
ReplyDeleteShe can't escape her culpability in this.
I am so overwhelmed by this event I can not console myself. I share your passion about young Christina Taylor Green's death. The demonizing rhetoric will curtail for just a short while, SP will spin this into a new blanket of victimization and the supportors and family will continue to believe it is perfectly fine to advocate "bullets if ballots don't work". Isn't SP's youngest daughter also nine years old?
ReplyDeleteAs a teacher Gryphen, you have articulated the awful unyeilding pain and crushing agony so very well. Clearly you mourn for Christina's family and those of the othe victims. Thank you for speaking out loud what you believe in. PLEASE STAY SAFE.
Gryph? Hugs.
ReplyDeleteSad yes. But this incident is no sadder than any of the past shootings this country has seen. This is a problem, one not easily solved, one that is not exclusive to the United States.
ReplyDeleteThough it takes all I have to write this, it must be said. It's still unfair to blame Sarah for another's actions when motive and inspiration have not been discovered. No one at Fox or MSNBC or CNN or any magazine has legitimized or supported this kind of behavior. But all of the above have come out against it at one time
i too feel very sad for the familys.
ReplyDeletei sincerely hope this is the event that brings sarah crashing down,, HARD!
bill in belize
Yes, she has. Palin needs to close up her Facebook account, put down her Blackberry, and never be heard from again.
ReplyDeleteThank you. I feel so terrible for this little girl. I'm 26, but I could easily see myself as an excited 9 year old, off to meet my local rep who seemed like a really smart woman. I mean, how cool would that be? I think you hit the right note.
ReplyDeleteThank you Gryphen for digging up the vilent language post about the tournament. It is worse then I had recalled.
ReplyDeleteMy point was that this was Palin's response to public objection to the crosshair symbols she approved and her previous violent spin choice of words.
It was an option to remove the crosshairs from Palin's target map and drop the shooting rhetoric. Instead she chose to ramp it up or drive the knife in and twist it escalating.
Who can get that post to the media to make the point of esclating violent language even in the wake of people shocked and finding it unnecessary and suggestive of violence? We owe it to the families and especially the innocent child reloaded on as Palin calls for people to do even boasting with a shotgun on television. Palin deserves to be made an example of.
I would like to believe that this murder will let people understand that in talking, or writing about the Palins, there is no right or wrong, no honor,not a shred of conscience in this family. They will continue along the road-which re-enforces their belief, they are better then everyone else.
ReplyDeleteI think there's a much bigger motive and instigator here. He didn't set out to just kill GG. He openfired and shot at least 18 times. I feel for Gabby and family. She and her family knew of all the hate directed at her and were not immune from past crimes. Why choose not to have security in such a climate? Many questions are out there, most willprobably not be answered.
ReplyDeleteI'm reserving all judgment until more is learned about thissick man
You've done us such a service already. Maybe you deserve a break. Don't watch Sarah Palin Sees Alaska For the First Time tonight. Take a break, do something fun, but let's keep putting pressure on the rhetoric and those flinging it. Let's not let people forget the immature behavior of our new House Minority Leader.
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Let's not let people forget the Reload nonsense.
Let's not let John Boehner, Sharon Angle, and many, many others off the hook for what they've said about the government and taking it back.
I think it is time to shun Sarah in every way possible. We don't watch her program tonight, thats for sure. We don't show up at her appearances. We don't give her headlines, and report every tweet. Sarah needs attention to survive; it is her drug of choice. We stop giving it to her. Same with Beck etc.
ReplyDeleteJust a suggestion - maybe don't post the bs defenses of Palin/attacks on Obama on this thread? They are sickening.
ReplyDeleteThe "currency" rambling can also be attributed to the teaparty, fox and palin. Palin's recent facebook:
ReplyDelete"If the President was serious about getting the economy moving again, he’d stop supporting the Fed’s dangerous experiments with our currency and focus instead on what actually works: reducing government spending and boosting business investment through good old fashioned supply side reforms (cutting taxes and reducing overly burdensome regulations)," Palin wrote. "Simply running the printing presses in order to avoid paying off your debts is no way for a great nation to behave."
The former Alaska governor warned today that “by the time this experiment is over, QE will make us queasy.”
Palin’s full comments can be read here: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=454151943434
Oh Gryphen, I've been crying over that little girl too. Thanks for your post.
ReplyDeleteEarlier this morning I was thinking that Palin is done. Politicos won't touch her anymore. They may not be "able" to say anything or admit anything for fear of party/Murdoch reprisal, but she's a political hot potato, and they won't want anything to do with her anymore.
And her f'in bullshit "statement" about the tragedy just pissed me off royally. So insincere and fake, she almost would have been better off saying nothing. I can't believe how much I hate that woman. She is vile.
Rebecca in NC
Perhaps the only upside is that Palin will finally realize the dangers of her political rhetoric and no longer bring Piper to political rallies. Piper could stand the chance to be a normal girl for a while. That's a chance this beautiful, intelligent girl will no longer have.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of whether this particular young man was influenced by Sarah Palin's "bullseye" (her own words) map, she needs to be called out for her violent rhetoric. Sarah Palin continues to spew hatred and then gives the world a look of wide-eyed innocence.
ReplyDeletePeople who have knowledge of her illegal and unethical and immoral (according to her own "christian" values) behavior need to come forward as soon as possible. Sarah Palin must be completely discredited so that we can reel back the anger and vitriol that lead to tragedies like this one.
Gryphen, the iceberg you keep talking about can't come fast enough.
Palin's written statement is the most unbelieveably graphic call to violence I have ever seen and I'm shocked at her graphic language. This should be on Huffpo as Palin's manifesto to her base and should haunt Palin for the rest of her life, and remove any chance of a political future for her. She describes in detail the specific instructions needed to take out the enemy, with words like bombing, aim, vault the walls or parachute in, language I can't believe she could print without being called out as Hitler incarnate!
ReplyDeleteIt's just like how she commands her wackjob followers to attack anyone who critcizes her and as Joe McGinnis said, she unleashes "the hounds of Hell". Hope you psycho Palinbots are rill proud to support such an evil woman, the killer of these innocent people could've been any one of you.
Link to contact TLC regarding Palin's show.
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Here is my comment I sent:
From Sarah Palin's facebook - 3/28/10
If the other side tries to push back, your attitude should be “go for it.” Get in their faces and argue with them. (Sound familiar?!) Every possession is a battle; you’ll only win the war if you’ve picked your battles wisely. No matter how tough it gets, never retreat, instead RELOAD!
- Sarah Palin
You tell me how you can run her finale show tonight while the mother of 9 year old Christina Taylor Green prepares to bury her daughter.
Don't watch it and get upset. We will all understand. I am sick looking at that child's face. Reading of all the people who are worried about Palin. Give me a break! No one is threatening her.
ReplyDeleteGood news is TLC will not have her show for second season. Bots are saying Palin declined. Yeah ok if that is what gets them through the night.
This little girl is the same age as Piper, but much more intelligent since she actually ATTENDED school. I hope to see a class action suit to take all of Palin's ill-gotten gains through her vile comments.
ReplyDeleteYep, done...finished....
ReplyDeleteThanks Sarah for doing what none others could do. Better start hiding assets cause they are gone. Amount of damages will be in excess of whatever you have. Sell the houses,cabins and snowmachines .... you will be left with nothing. Can't run for office now, Fox will be taking cover and the Repugs have already turned on her. I bet it's pretty scary in the ol compound this morning.
a NORMAL person would have used check marks or little stars or eve just an X. but noooooooo she purposely chose sniper sites.
ReplyDeleteand to watch them try to spin this any other way is just pathetic.
bill in belize
In most societies, when someone persists in damaging behavior, after repeated warnings, they are then shunned in society. Gryphen, I have spent two years visiting this blog every day, seeking more examples of Sarah Palin's awful actions and reprehensible failures of motherhood and professional conduct. I will no longer spend time on her, and somewhat regrettably, give up visiting your commentary. It would be appropriate if the TLC cancelled her final "reality" show and its love of guns and killing culture.
ReplyDeleteWhether the SP 'hit' piece had any influence over the shooter isn't the point here. It's entirely possible he wasn't even aware of it. But pieces like it augment an already sick mind and bring that sick mind closer to perpetrating violent acts. Unfortunately a seriously mentally ill person who is in a state of decompensation will draw upon bits and pieces of literature, film and media to fuel their paranoia whether that rhetoric is far right or far left.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that SP took this offensive piece of garbage down yesterday speaks volumes to her awareness of how incendiary this kind of rhetoric is and her culpability. There are so many ways she could have made her point about defeating specific congress persons without resorting to this imagery. But she didn't and she is paying the price politically for it now.
Still in shock.
this whole situation is tragic, and hearing that he had run in's with the law before and then was able to just go and buy a weapon no question ask is another thing i can't warp my head around.There is so much that is just wrong with this whole situation.
ReplyDeletePalin is most definitely responsible for inciting violence. And she has done it purposefully. Anything she says to the contrary is a lie. All of her speeches, including this one you copied here, are full of key words and phrases used by the religious fundementalists - the "end of dayers". They feel that the deaths of innocents is just collateral damage and is necessary in order to gain their goals. These people are just as dangerous as the jahdists who believe that innocents that get in the way will be rewarded in heaven - and so will they.
ReplyDeletePalin, Beck, O'Reily and their ilk should be charged with, at the very least, inciting to violence. But I think at the very worst, these ignorant fools are guilty of sedition and treason against this country for the lies and hate they've put out to the public as truth which has resulted in so much tradegy. - hedgewytch
I too watched the interview with the girl's mother and I can't get her out of my head, or my heart.
ReplyDeleteAnd for SP's attempt back in March to make her use of violence as typical to sports talk, it fell flat.
At the time that Palin (Palin's ghost writers) wrote those violence charged words, they could only see as far as the next election. However, both Giffords herself and the Sheriff of Pima County said that words have consequences, and we sadly saw the consequences of Sarah's words yesterday. Whether someone wrote them for her or not, they were attributed to Sarah, and in her own twitter, she claimed credit for knocking out 18 of the 20 targeted candidates.
ReplyDeleteThe Tea Party and the right wing rabble rouses also share the blame for this rhetoric, which does incite violence.
Sarah should not consider running for President. That's a job where words do have world wide consequences, and someone in that office does not blurt out slogans which are convenient and colorful for the moment. There are international players involved, and every statement has to be carefully worded. George W. Bush is our great example of some one whose rhetoric "Bring it on" took us into a war of choice and lies.
And, it is now laughable for RAM to try to distance herself from Sarah; Rebecca was paid $22,000. through Aries Petra Consulting for internet messaging for Sarah. Words do have consequences. I guess that's why Sarah has not issued a face book post since yesterday when she mistakenly wished the Giffords family condolences instead of prayers for Gabrielle's healing.
I've been on SP's facebook page and refreshing it over and over to see ANY negative comments about Sarah immediately removed while the ones in support of how she shouldn't be blamed are let through.
ReplyDeleteInsane.
Please read Russ Baker's book "Family of Secrets" It's not just another book about the Bush family - trust me. It goes a long way to telling us about the rot at the heart of our government.
ReplyDeleteThanks Gryphen, your indignation is righteous.
ReplyDeleteI am never really very good at articulating my feelings, you just did.
This event is not like any other violent shooting event. The only common factor is the instability of the perpetrator.
ReplyDeleteWhat is different, though we have seen politically motivated violence before, is that this young man assaulted a woman who had been listed as a target. Listed by one of the biggest political figures in our mass media.
No amount of minimizing it can make that go away. Sarah knows it, her supporters know it, the MSM knows it, we all know it. It will be discussed, it will be dissected. Make no mistake about that.
There is a connection, it is not partisan opportunism. It is the truth, the terrible ugly truth.
There is a clear connection between the language on the crosshairs map and the violence against the AZ rep. On the map it states "20 House Democrats from districts we carried in 2008 voted for the Health Care Bill, It's Time to Take a Stand". The AZ rep's office window was smashed and she was threatened right after she voted on health care, and then shot, so if Palin's camp says there is no connection she better think again. Palin has used her exposure in an evil, negative, hateful way instead of advocating for positive causes, and she is a useless piece of crap that has no business contributing to our country's political rhetoric.
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Welcome to AZ, Sarah! Let's see what the backlash against you and Jan Brewer will be for your violent use of language. Brewer said it's time to use our 2nd amendment rights, what a scary bunch of whackos!
ReplyDeleteYou'll fit right in, Sarah, to this hotbed of political craziness that you've helped to create. Looks like a great place to bring your dysfunctional family, but I'm sure you knew all that in planning this move.
I hope the families seek that Palin is prosecuted for "depraved indifference" for targeting Congressman Gifford with crosshairs and calling people to act in violence using guns.
ReplyDeleteSurely Palin's response, of escalating violent language about basketball demonstrates depraved indifference to peoples concerns especially when there were actual acts of violence against people for health care reform. People acted violently acting out on "death panels" also.
I am not a lawyer but I think Palin boasted enough, bragged and demonstrated she was indifferent to any harm to people.
Entire 1/2 hour on CNN devoted to Palin's target map and her culpibility in this ..... It's going badly for her.
ReplyDeleteI read that McCain got pressed by Ann Curry about Sarah's gun suggestive rhetoric. I'm waiting for the day he just flips his lid on TV and rues the day he ever met her.
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin knows she has a VOICE which she uses carelessly to create controversies. Her voice may well have been a contributing factor to this shooting but Sarah's either too stupid or uncaring to acknowledge it.
ReplyDeleteAll that matters to her is that one day she'll be presiding over the White House appointing Supreme Court Justices to overturn Roe v Wade. At the same time, she'll be instigating new foreign wars and nurturing militias into domestic terrorists.
Sarah says she cares about life and families. I see no evidence of that.
How about using your VOICE to keep the living living, Sarah? Start practicing what you preach.
Anonymous @ 7:22AM
ReplyDeleteApparently TLC doesn't want to hear what the viewers have to say any more! Their viewer relations page is now blank!
Mitt should watch his back:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDOykmey7-I&feature=player_embedded
Anon@7:48
ReplyDeleteA correction to your statement; it was not Jan Brewer who stated 'second amendment remedies', it was Sharron Angle of Nevada. Lets give credit where credit it due.
Every website, every newspaper I have read this morning, every single one of them, is associating Palin with this tragedy. And no one else.
ReplyDeleteMany articles lead with a side-by-side picture of Palin and Congresswoman Giffords.
She will forever be associated with this terrible tragedy.
She is done - she will never be able to shake off the ramifications of this tragic incident, and her relation to it.
I too hope the lawsuits come fast and furious - take her for she's got.
TLC wil gather many points in my book if they DO cancel the showing of SPA tonight.
Anon 7:05 "It's still unfair to blame Sarah for another's actions when motive and inspiration have not been discovered."
ReplyDeleteWhat part of Words have consequences don't you understand? Palin is considered a leader of Teaparty and right wringers and with this power, comes great responsibilities.
The Sheriff who spoke out last night knows more than you and I. He criticize the vitriol therefore, I believe he knows who to blame.
This whole incident is beyond belief and disgusting to witness. I am so angry about what this woman has done to our country. Those of you who are trying to justify her behavior and call us insane for connecting her to this horrible crime better look long and hard at the person you see in the mirror. There is no denying that sarah paylin has a direct link to this incident--facts are facts. Your feeble attempts at spinning only turn up the volume and history has been written. Karma can suck you stupid palinbots-- better get real and start to pay attention.
ReplyDeleteI'm trying to e-mail Discovery to ask that they not air SPA tonight, but it's not going through...hopefully because their servers are overloaded with similar requests. My note:
ReplyDelete"Will there be anyone with the stomach to watch Sarah Palin's Alaska tonight? While Palin is not directly tied to the shooting; her violent rhetoric has been implicated. Who could watch Palin spend time with her 9-year-old daughter, when another 9-year-old girl lies dead? TLC, please, do not air the season finale tonight."
Gryphen, thank you for articulating so well what so many of us are feeling.
Yes, Wasilla, hasn't she done enough damage? Isn't it time to speak out? If not now, when?
ReplyDeleteGryphen, I too feel the same pain at the death of this beautiful child and anger at devastation that Palin has wrought to our society AND to Christianity. That evil woman MUST have the mark of the beast.
Responding to Palin's rhetoric last year, Giffords herself told MSNBC's The Daily Rundown, that "the rhetoric is incredibly heated."
ReplyDeleteGiffords - who is a gun owner and supporter of gun rights - went on to say: "The way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gun sight over our district, when people do that, they have got to realize there are consequences to that," she added.
Palin is not the only politician taking heat in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy - critics are also pointing the finger at Giffords' general election opponent, Jesse Kelly. The liberal website Firedoglake noted that Kelly held an event on June 12th urging supporters to "Get on Target for Victory in November/Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office/Shoot a fully automatic M15 with Jesse Kelly."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20027918-503544.html
Here is a twitter from Sarah:
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It is written Nov.4, 2010, and it reads: Remember months ago "bullseye" icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare lovin' incumbent seats? We won 18 out of 20 (90% success rate T'aint bad)
Let there be no mistake. Those congressmen and women were targeted. RAM can say that the icon was meant to be a surveyor's symbol, but it wouldn't make any sense to survey candidates. Sarah has let us know that they were targeted. They might as well have been walking around with bulls' eye targets on their backs.
Sarah does not think beyond the moment, and she certainly does not weigh the weight and power of her words. She can never be allow in political office again.
Oh, and be sure to go over to the New York Daily News and vote as to whether Sarah was responsible for the tragedy in Arizona. This time we should "target" Sarah for a well deserved win.
In the pointing out culpability from the violence provoking politicians and pundits like Palin, Beck, O'Reilly, etc., I think Michele Bachman's "I want them armed and dangerous" comment should be addressed. I can't remember if she said this before Palin started on her "I'm such an adorable tomboy" farce or not, but it IS one of the most volatile things which has been said. STOP this woman's presidential aspirations. NOW.
ReplyDeleteHere is Gabby in her own words. Sarah is done.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com watch?v=qs75zKxJxVY&feature=player_embedded
Sarah, how outraged would you be if Piper were the collateral damage for someone putting crosshairs on you? Surveyor's watchamacallit? How do you reload or shoot across the bow with a surveyor's watchamacallit? BITE ME! We're not that stupid. Yeah, I'm talking to you RAM and paste eaters at the Urinal.
ReplyDeleteI have, painfully, tuned into faux news to see what they have had to say and yes, they are being very careful and using defensive language when it comes to talking about why this gunman did what he did. They even suggested that the left is using this to be political--typical.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, Thanks for all the reporting that you have done on this horrific situation regarding U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
ReplyDeleteI'll repeat what I wrote to you last night:
"OT: Gryphen, I hope you do NOT do a piece tomorrow night on Palin's 2-hr Alaska finale show.
And if you do, I hope absolutely NO ONE makes any comment to your story.
She's been given more than enough attention to her self-aggrandizing show."
If you need to put attention on Palin, please continue to keep pressure on her regarding her incendiary remarks and actions. Please do not flatter her by watching her 2-hr finale.
That little girl haunts me too. But Palin is fine with it! And when asked on Twitter to imagine a crosshair symbol on her AZ house, Bristol said "f u asshole!" What an utter failure of a person she has turned out to be, I am so glad she's not my daughter. And I have daughters.
ReplyDeleteI bet the phrase "the internet is forever" is taking on a whole new meaning in a certain Wasilla residence today.
Sarah Palin Aide Rebecca Mansour: Our Crosshairs Map Had Nothing To Do With Violence Or Guns
ReplyDeleteBut SarahPAC staffer Rebecca Mansour, who has been tweeting in defense of her boss since the tragedy took place, is stating that the crosshairs were never intended to be gun sights.
"We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights," she said in an interview with talk radio host Tammy Bruce Saturday. "It was simply crosshairs like you'd see on maps." Bruce suggested that they could, in fact, be seen as "surveyor's symbols." Mansour added that "it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent" and called any attempts to politicize the Arizona tragedy "repulsive."
The suggestion that the symbols were related to guns seemed to come, however, from Palin herself. On March 23, Palin tweeted to her supporters a note about the aforementioned Facebook message, writing, "Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: 'Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!' Pls see my Facebook page." And as Politico's Jonathan Martin points out, in November Palin boasted about defeating 18 of the 20 members on her "bullseye" list.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/09/sarah-palin-rebecca-mansour-crosshairs-arizona_n_806375.html
Bristol showing her diplomacy.
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I'd swear this was there yesterday and then removed. In case it's removed again, here's the text of it. This time I did save a screen shot too.
"F#ck u, asshole! Reported->>"@MattKap20: I wonder how SarahPalinUSA would feel if someone put a crosshair on @bristol_palin 's new house."
Vinnie
She's most likely holed up, throwing canned goods at Tawd, cussing up a new hole in the ozone, and completely blaming "that stupid kid" for ruining her presidential chances. Because without him--and the Great Satan Anti-Christ Kenyan-- she would surely be elected. God said so. Also, to.
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ReplyDeleteYesterday the comments about Palin's culpability were left up on her FB page. Gryphen posted quite a few of them.
Sheriff Clarence Dupnik: Arizona 'Mecca For Prejudice & Bigotry'
ReplyDeleteAddressing the tragedy at a news conference, the sheriff said that law enforcement had reason to believe that Giffords was specifically targeted in the attack. He added that evidence suggests one suspect -- 22-year-old Jared Loughner, who is already in custody -- likely did not act alone.
"When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," said the sheriff. "And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become sort of the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/sheriff-clarence-dupnik-a_n_806303.html
Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI have been physically ill and emotionally heartbroken by this tragedy. Tucson is rallying with vigils and a renewed commitment to stand against such extremism.
Representative Giffords is in a medically induced coma for her benefit, and the prognosis is optimistic.
What will be the prognosis of our country now?
We are at a tipping point.
Where was the GOP leadership over the last two years? Or MSM? None of them had the courage to step up and condemn Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, FoxNews for their frequent inciting of violence. Now, when it's too late to save those 6 lives - especially Christina Taylor Greene - they're so shocked and surprised that this has happened. How many of us have been expressing fears that exactly this sort of thing would happen. How can any of them be suprised?
ReplyDeleteJohn McCain used Palin as his mad-dog and she was a perfect choice. Westboro Baptist Church issued a statement yesterday praising the shooting and announcing that they would picket the funeral of Christina Taylor Greene. That's not freedom of speech - that violation of common decency.
Sharon1943
The "Lock and Load" Rhetoric of American Politics Isn't Just a Metaphor
ReplyDeleteBut I am saying that the "lock and load"/"take up your arms" rhetoric of American politics isn't just an overheated metaphor. For years, the language of sports has dominated political journalism, and discourse about hardball and the horserace and the rest of the macho athletic lexicon has been a factor in the trivialization of our public sphere. This has helped dumb down democracy, making a serious national discussion about anything important too wonky for words.
The "second amendment solution," though, does something worse than make politics a branch of entertainment. It makes it a blood sport. I know politics ain't beanbag. But words have consequences, rhetoric shapes reality, and much as we like to believe that we are creatures of reason, there is something about our species' limbic system and lizard brainstems that makes us susceptible to irrational fantasies.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/gabrielle-giffords-shooting_b_806232.html
I see this tragedy as an opportunity to do something good as well. Gryphen, why not spearhead a movement to develop legislation against the use of violent rhetoric from public figures. This could be done in the name of the little girl. Why not contact her family and at least offer the support of your blog to make this happen? You have a lot more influence to make this happen than you realize, I think. I believe that all your readers (minus bot-heads) would embrace the idea if you went with it.
ReplyDeleteAMERICANS AGAINST VIOLENT RHETORIC IN POLITICS!!
ReplyDeleteSPEAK UP, SPEAK OUT!
Don't bother watching the show, nobody is interested in it. She made her money, wrought havoc in the US and I sincerely hope she finally, finally will get it that nobody wants her brand of politics.
ReplyDeleteI hope sarah palin is sitting at home thinking and pondering the fact that that could have been her and her daughter Piper.
IF a Democrat used that rhetoric and inflamed our base the way she has, that easily could have been sarah palin and her daughter shot at yesterday.
But Democrats have not used the rhetoric, the hate filled speeches and allusion to guns as the answer to our dissatisfaction.
But sarah palin, for whatever reason thought it important to use whatever means to take down our democratically elected officials.
She did not care that our own government warned in 2009 against the rise of hate groups, especially right wing ones.
She refused to acknowledge any responsibility for her actions.
As palin herself says often, there are no coincidences.
So therefore Ex gov palin, the fact that you put a bulls eye target on Rep. Gifford, told your followers don't retreat, re load, pal around and support people who talk about 2nd amendment remedies, the fact is that Rep. Gifford was gravely injured and others killed.
If there are no coincidences, then your actions are in part to blame for yesterday's tragedy.
You have a great opportunity to redeem yourself and encourage others to act responsibly. I hope you take it.
They're still trying to portray the shooter as a leftist of some sort. His viewpoints are actually simiar most aligned to a group called 'Sovereign Citizens'. Their emphasis on currency is similar to this guys.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2010/april/sovereigncitizens_041310
Still, we can't discount the fact that this guy was batsh*t crazy. These groups, and people like Sarah, play on people's feelings and encourage them that acting out violently is a reasonable course of action.
Vinnie
"Willie Horton" ring a bell, Sarah? We know you're all busy clubbin' and aimin' and shootin' and stuff, but take a moment and google it up. And maybe wiki "kharma," too, while you're at it.
ReplyDeleteFor a long time, I wanted Sarah Palin to fall off the mountain....but not like this. This is too real.
ReplyDeleteI have a nine year old grandchild Gryphen. My heart is breaking for this family. I cannot imagine the pain and sorrow they must be going through.
ReplyDeleteKeep exposing Palin. The moment she appeared at the RNC I felt a chill. There is a callous, evilness about her. She cares nothing for anyone but herself.
Ohiovoter
Palin is just a sick white trash woman capitalizing on hatred and violence. This beautiful, intelligent little girl had to pay the ultimate price for palin's hate messages. Sad beyond words. I'm angry because her and her useless brood continues to run roughshod over everyone and gets paid for it! Something is very wrong here. TLC should have the balls to cancel the finale.
ReplyDeleteTo anonymous at 7:22 a.m., thank you for putting that link to the Discovery Channel in these comments. I just wrote them to let them know my feelings about their promotion of this evil woman and her fake reality show. I wouldn't have if it weren't for you. Thanks again.
ReplyDeleteHaving read the shooter's youtube postings of which much is hard to understand, to come to a conclusion of why of course will never happen. This investigation will be treated and analyzed in segments to which politicians, lawmakers, medical experts, media, etc - will all listen and cherry pick what they want to hear. I've already listened to a few Repubs & high on the ladder TeaBaggers name call this guy on TV this morning. Less than 24 hours and name calling is alive and well. They're brushing off the rhetoric issue to use the 'deranged' excuse. Rep Trent Franks (R-AZ) on State of the Union called the shooter a lunatic and said the Sheriff commenting on the rhetoric was inappropriate and hinted he was politicizing it but Franks is turning it to religion - we are all children of God, yadda, yadda, yadda. (I'm not religious so don't appreciate a politician preaching). They have segregated the political rhetoric & psychological assessment to give themselves a pass along with Palin, Bill O & his Tiller chant, Beck & his revolution, Angle & her second amendment chant, Bachmann, Brewer & her Latino hate & headless rhetoric, etc., the list too long to post. Didn't know these political hacks had a medical degree to do assessments.
ReplyDeleteI still look at it using Palin as the example as she is the one who has the loudest voice and attention and is the most predominate media focus. Media reports every FB post, tweet and I believe some would report if she farted - all of which has been done these past few years without any verbal interaction.
When you continue to spew as she's done the chant of 'don't retreat, instead reload', it's not a one off use of those words. She continues to use the phrase in her reality show to date. She has repeated the soundbyte phrases at rallies, her speeches, on Fox - repeated since '08. It's like the repeated lies by politicians & shock jocks - the more they say it, it's accepted as truth. Sadly, we don't see the challenge to these lies. They are given a free pass to spew talking point lies.
The shooter writes of mind control - we may not understand the writings - but those words over and over do burn into minds to where it could be construed to be a form of mind control. When every media outlet plays and replays those same words 24/7 unchallenged and in many instances, laughed at, it's like a drip, drip, drip. No thought is given to how it can unhinge people. Irresponsibility.
To hear and read the politicians, the media - all trying to compartmentalize this as political or medical is just bogus as it has to be looked at as a whole. They also are trying to define it as 'one day' - not looking at the cumulative effect.
The sad part is it's those politicians and media that continue to have the 24/7 outlet to be heard, many of which facts get in their way and instead choose to incite to get the top billing media capture that day. They have the platform to continue and be replayed - the drip, drip, drip. This wasn't available years ago.
Some of this may not make sense and it is long, but I had to write it. I, like Gryphen, have been crying reading and seeing the story of the beautiful young girl Christina Green. A headline Born,died between 2 tragedies - was the first that brought me to a total breakdown - to tears. The mother's interview I have not been able to watch yet.
Wagers on how long it will take Palin et al to remove that "language police" post from her Facebook account??
ReplyDelete7:05am. Have you even listened to Glenn Beck? Hannity? Check out the video of Hannity proudly calling his Tea Party audience Timothy McVeigh wannabes. They cheered!
http://www.examiner.com/skepticism-in-oakland/audience-cheers-as-sean-hannity-calls-them-tim-mcveigh-wannabes-update-w-video
In honor of the victims, maybe today would be a good day to go troll free. Nerves are raw and no one wants to deal with them today. There is no defense of Palin or Fox News they can make that won't make most readers livid.
"Perhaps the only upside is that Palin will finally realize the dangers of her political rhetoric and no longer bring Piper to political rallies."
ReplyDeleteperhaps....gut instinct tells me she is very aware of crazies with guns and that she incites their behavior. She makes everyone that goes to see HER remove their clothing and go through intense screening processes plus pay $$$ for the 'privilege'.
7:12am Blame the victim!! Nice one, troll.
ReplyDeleteToday should be a troll free day, pretty please!!
There is a poll on tmz.com that is asking (among other things) if Palin is at least partly to blame for the shooting. Currently (and unbelievably), it's running 54% that she's not! But there are thousands more responses to that question than to the others in the same poll, so I suspect the Palinbots are stuffing the ballot box...
ReplyDeletecorrect link for NYT poll
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html
I just voted.
I would encourage all of the people on her "hitlist" to hire additional security and bill Sarah Palin for it. I think this is only fair, since she has put their lives in danger. I assume SP and McCain wouldn't be so cavilier about the crosshairs if they were aimed at them. We see how that piece of crap daughter of hers responds to the thought. They can dish it out, but can't take it. Tough Alaskans MY ASS. A bunch of effing pussies all of them!
ReplyDelete7:12am. Ask Gibby's aid how he asked to talk to Gabby and when the aid said he would have to wait his turn, he returned a few minutes later, and shot her in the head. Yes, she was his immediate target and has all the domestic terrorists state, "the others were simply collateral damage".
ReplyDeleteWhile accusing Obama of hanging around with terrorists, it is certainly much better than inciting domestic terrorists into violently killing 6 people.
Three words for Sarah Palin need to be chanted at each and every one of her public speaking engagements...Christina Taylor Greene
Wake Up America, that is a terrific idea.
ReplyDeleteTo Anon.7:58, it took a slight delay before anything came up on the Discovery Channel website linked by Anon.7:22. Try it again. It could just be overloaded right now as well. I just got through a few minutes ago with my comments.
ReplyDelete7:05am. Really?
ReplyDeleteLet's try one of Glenn Beck's previous rants to show how his rants are mirrored by the domestic terrorist who killed these people. Give Beck's video a try below and see if you don't think it is very similar to the youtube claims of the terrorist...
Glenn Beck One World Currency:
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/glen-beck-talks-about-the-new-world-order/170fdbad91fc37160255170fdbad91fc37160255-300730155140?q=Glenn+Beck+video+on+one+world+currency&FORM=VIRE1
I got through to TLC:
ReplyDeleteI am appalled that TLC plans to air SPA after the events in Tucson. Palin's rhetoric and her demeanor have contributed to a dangerous atmosphere in the US. I am an American citizen living in Canada and the murder of six people and the assassination attempt on Congresswoman Giffords may well be traced back to a troubled mind, bolstered by the vitriol that people like Sarah Palin have unleashed on the public. Sham on you, TLC for promoting this woman and her hatred.
The Canadian press is reporting that Giffords is Jewish. Did not hear this anywhere else. Hate to think that it played any role in her shooting.
This event is the result of all the hate rhetoric that came from Palin, the Tea Baggers and FAUX News.
"The fact that SP took this offensive piece of garbage down yesterday speaks volumes to her awareness of how incendiary this kind of rhetoric is and her culpability." Anon 7:28
ReplyDeleteSpot on! She can deny it all she wants, but she already proved her lie.
With rights come responsibility. Take responsibility for your words for once, Scarah. This may not have been what you intended, but it is the result of your words. Mentally ill people see those types of messages and take them literally. Yes, you have the right to say something, but when you use that right irresponsibly, you must suffer the consequences.
Please go away.
If yet another of the 20 bullseye targeted elected officials comes to harm, we just may see the entire nation clamoring for Palin to be charged with conspiracy to commit murder.
ReplyDeleteAnd, boy, will THAT ever change the tone of political rhetoric from the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, and the others who feed off hatred like snails do the scum off the side of a fishtank.
And: I can only hope the asshole who sold a military style gun to the kid who used it on a group of innocent people, is going through total mysery, today.
Every life lost or irrevocably changed is a tragedy. But, of course, the thought of this young girl's life being cut off prematurely and the suffering her family is experiencing is overwhelming. I think most people would think of their own children and the horror of losing one in any way---but especially through a senseless act of violence.
ReplyDeleteI saw a few minutes of the coverage on CNN and the pundits are already repeatedly comparing Sarah Palin's comments with Obama's comment that 'they bring knives ... we bring a gun.' One thing that is conveniently escaping their notice is the difference between one incident of an inappropriate choice of words and someone who repeatedly chooses to use (and relishes)words that evoke images of violence.
Yes, it's true, as they said, that EVERYONE needs to be careful in their choice of words, but to imply some sort of equivalency between those who occasionally, and wrongly, use such langauge and those who routinely do so is without merit.
All I can say right now is she is one more ignorant bitch. I have never wished death to anyone, but I truly have made an exception in her case. In the fact after this deadly rampage and all these losses and she does not admonish these actions F%%% her. This SOB tried to reload thankfully some guys jumped his ass to stop the madness.
ReplyDeleteI am crying over the death and injuries of those involved in this disaster, but I am especially grief-stricken over the death of this beautiful, innocent child. I don't really have the words right now to fully express how I feel, as there are no words I can say that would undo the damage that the rw has done to this country.
ReplyDeleteNo matter how much they try to distance themselves from this, they can't. Those on the right who didn't approve of the behavior they were witnessing and didn't lift a finger or say one word in protest gave their silent consent/approval for using violent rhetoric to attack political opponents. I know that everyone on the right didn't engage in the behavior, but they didn't try to stop it either, and now, six people are dead, one of them a little girl who had her whole future ahead of her ,and the violent rhetoric/actions employed by some on the right are responsible.
After living under segregation and triumphing over it, I never, ever thought I'd live to see another period in America's history in which some Americans would embrace the use of violence and hate toward their fellow citizens because they are different from themselves in some way. I see now how naive I was to think that Americans would reject hatred and violence as a solution to dealing with others they don't like.
I can't fully explain at this time how much this incident has affected me. It brings back memories of what I saw/experienced in America in the 1950s and 1960s. I am heart-broken, emotionally devastated, and depressed. I'm also outraged at the failure of rw leaders to intervene and stop this type of behavior before it led to the loss of real lives. It's too late now. Nothing any of them can say now can get me to believe that they have any sympathy for the victims who were injured/died as a result of their actions/words. None of their empty "condolences" can replace the loved ones families lost or change the fact that the survivors' lives, and those of their families, have been changed forever.
Don't any of those denying Paylin's culpability in this tragedy remember Jones who lead, with his words, so many to their death, all ages, by the way, and remember, "all in the name of religion."
ReplyDeletePalinbots check out Hitler, Adolph to be exact. He only talked. He talked to large crowds,women swooning at the hyper rhetoric and needing to be attended to when they collapsed at his gatherings.
Hitler was mentally unbalanced, depraved, but with his talk, he created a legion of followers and look at the despicable criminality of hatred they all performed because Hitler's words and orders "told them to do it." Hitler did not lead them except verbally.
Words matter, temperament matters, and clarity in words telegraphed on media airways and in print need to be humane.
Anyone who denies this has essential wiring screwed up in their cranium. Like short circuits that cause sparks to fly and cause _______?????? Fill in the blanks!
Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts are with you. Dealing with this sort of darkness takes a toll. And now what we all feared would come of the hateful spirit exemplified by the Palins of the world has come true. It is horrifying and tragic.
Seek comfort and strength where you can. We all need help to bear up under such tragedy.
7:05 AM
ReplyDeletePeople can choose to wait and see what will come out about this. Others see the writing on the wall. We all need some time to wipe away the tears. You can blame Sarah Palin for what she has spent her life work creating before or after this slaughter at a Safeway. It is a fact that a precious child was blown away. Her life was special and she took to heart her poignant birthday and learning about how our system of government works. We now must also look at it's flaws and when it doesn't work. How did she become collateral damage [damage that is unintended or incidental to the intended outcome.]?
It is a disservice to Christina Taylor Green and her family to drop the ball. Whether it is how the federal or state elections work, how the legislators work, how the executive branch works we all must further the learning process. The Republicans want to mute discussion until the bodies are put in the ground. Let them. Others must carry on and go forward as Christina was doing before she was taken out by a crazy assassin.
Thanks "anon" at 7:22 for the link to the TLC comment site. I used essentially your words as they expressed my sentiments better than I could have.
ReplyDeleteWrite/email congresspersons and Senators.
ReplyDeleteAsk for investigation into Palin 'bullseye' map as it relates to the Gifford tragedy!
We can do this.
8:44AM
ReplyDeleteOhiovoter - I felt the same exact way the moment she spoke. My first thought literally was HELL TO THE NO should this woman be in politics. She's full of venom and negativity - JESUS would not be proud of her by any means.
Out of good taste, I would think TLC would postpone the hate-monger's season finale until next week..perhaps we should contact them and demand it!
ReplyDeleteGo take the poll....
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/09/2011-01-09_palin_put_a_target_on_her_she_should_have_known_the_dangers.html
Witnesses said the stone-faced gunman first shot Giffords, who was chatting with a couple from a seat behind a table, before unloading up to as many as 20 shots on the crowd.
ReplyDelete"He was going for the congresswoman," Alex Villec, a 19-year-old volunteer, told the Arizona Daily Star. "A few staff members were caught in the crossfire. ... His goal was the congresswoman."
Sarah Palin Aide Rebecca Mansour: Our Crosshairs Map Had Nothing To Do With Violence Or Guns
ReplyDeleteIs there a single high school in this country that would not expel a student that had drawn crosshairs over another student's home? Rebecca Mansour's argument, justification, does not hold up to scrutiny. It is what it is. Somewhere in their souls, both she & Sarah Palin know they had a hand in ramping up the ugliness. Shame on them both.
I said earlier that Rebecca and Tammy are making this worse; the story is now up on HP about them saying it was not crosshairs as targets. This has made everyone furious that Palin is allowing her main spokesperson, Rebecca Mansour, a paid political hack to come in and make all manner of excuses for Palin. Before this is over, RAM and Tammy Bruce will need a new job because they will be fired.
ReplyDeletePeople just are not buying the lies of Rebecca and Tammy to make Palin look innocent.
Crystal Sage, yes, she is Jewish. I saw it last night on a screen capture, I think, of an interview. I think it was on the web, but maybe it was a news program. It shows her face and under that the news program had a quote from her. I think this is paraphrased correctly: no one will fight harder for you than a Jewish woman. But I'm wondering why her being Jewish is a concern to you. I would hate for us to go flying off on an irrelevant tangent of "maybe" and "I wonder if..."
ReplyDeleteThank you for making it so definitive, Gryph. There is no doubt about Sarah Palin's bullseye now.
ReplyDelete@ anonymous 7:17
I don't want to think of what it will be like for Piper Palin if she is left at the compound to be schooled at home. Whose job would that be? It should be better than the slave labor she does for SarahPac and Sarah sales. That doesn't make it a decent life for a child.
Piper Palin's face attending events with Sarah Palin will be a reminder of what happened to a child who died as she was involved in learning. Not in the way the Palin's over expose and drag their nine year old around. Palin may want to push Piper on like a Mama Grizzly or they may decide she would be a poor political prop now. I can see Palin finding a way to use this to her advantage. If she responds to the child's death. I would think she would do it with a script that makes her look as human and heart felt as possible, a caring mother routine.
For those want to take tonight's SP Alaska off the air - the place to go to protest is the advertisers - $ talks- As I have not watched, I do not know who has advertised on her show. If anyone can share this info, I do believe a blast to the advertisers would bring the show down asap
ReplyDeleteJust go with me for a few minutes.
ReplyDelete9/11. Axis of evil. You're either with me or against me.
Lies. Brainwashing. Fox News.
Vitriol. Political debate.
Second amendment remedies. Constitution. Civil rights.
Campaigns. Cross-hairs map. Alaska. Arizona. Don't retreat, just reload.
Elections. Anti-government activism.
Vandalism. Threats.
Democracy. Town hall style public gathering.
Gun control. Mental illness.
Elementary school student government. Face of hope. Christina Taylor Green.
How can anybody either side of the aisle (by which I mean pro-gun nut-job right-wingers) refuse to connect the dots?
Denial. Denial. Denial.
Please, people, use this anger, don't forget, don't forgive, wipe away the tears, speak up, make it stop.
This makes me so sick! I was blissfully out of news-range yesterday, and today, I wake up to THIS. Six people killed, including the little girl who was ironically born on 9/11/01.
ReplyDeleteWhat can we do to stop this madness? Please, people out there, let's try to band together and get this eveil out of the public eye into the darkest prison we have.
Is there a way to collectively make a class-action suit against Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and Coulter? Sue them for making our live hell, for inflicting mental anguish to us? If we could get together into a class action lawsuit (or maybe better into individual lawsuits?), we could at the very least drain their $$$ coffers, so they would have to slow down with their attacks. Put the fear of GOD into all of them - they all are CINOs -'Christians In Name Only'.
Palin is desperately trying to distance herself from the blood that is now literally on her hands. She should be reminded of this every single living day. People should sove pictures of the dead into her face every single day. Make her realize day after day that SHE is the one who caused this terror to happen on innocent people. When the Sheriff says so, and when people are all over saying the same, it IS the truth, $arah! YOU are the catalist, YOU are the one who is responsible for tearing our nation apart. YOU are the one who started with all the hate, when YOU started calling for our then would-be President to be eliminated, when you did not scorn YOUR supporters at those political hate-rallies and did not tell them to NOT start talking about "KILL HIM!". YOU did nothing to stop the hatred. Our nation was not as hateful as it is today. We were on the way to finally accept our black brethren and sisters. Now, we are back to the 1960s or even before. YOU are the one who is responsible for the hatred that is going on against the illegal immigrants. We were handling the issues before in a civilized manner. Now we have vigilante-ism all over the place.
Let's get together and sue the heck out of Palin and her likes. It is time that the law and order gets restored in our country, that people who incite violence get charged with inciting violence, and that they get put away for it.
Sorry for the rambling. I simply lost it when I came here and saw this beautiful innocent face and read that she got killed because of SARAH PALIN.
I want to agree. I am heartsick for the shooters victims and their families. Christina brings it home. I can hardly even think about those who talk violence and use it for personal gain. Can't they see this tradedy? The violence speakers are culpable.
ReplyDeleteI am so sad and hope for the violence advocators stop their hateful spin. I hope for families to have the courage to help with parenting, treatment, or confinement for their disturbed/violent children, friends, or relatives before they commit tragic acts. The predator in this case was a walking time bomb.
Mary W
On Saturday night, Fox News abruptly cut away from a vigil for the victims in Phoenix, Arizona after one of the mourners mentioned Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/online/fox-news-abruptly-cuts-away-from-giffords-vigil-as-mourner-says-%E2%80%98and-i-say-to-you-sarah-palin%E2%80%99/
This reminds me of my days working with students who were masters of using subtleties and innuendos to egg people on. When confronted, they put their hands up and claimed they didn't do anything. But you can be sure, if there was a map with a mark on Sarah and she was shot, we'd be hearing a whole different story. Don't look to FOX or talk radio to acknowledge their roles or change their ways. They must believe they are contributing to the common good. While they put on rubber suits and bounce everything off, including accusing critics off taking advantage of a tragic situation, the rest of us are asking why this happened and how it could have been avoided. By the reactions I've seen, most everyone sees the hate and fear promoters vile for what it really is and was more than ready to get a conversation started. So how about it advertisers, program directors, executive producers, MSM that give credibility by promoting the sensational stories. I know you have to make a buck but does it really have to be this way?
ReplyDeleteTo the wisdoms of foresight and hindsight, we now add the wisdom of gunsight: When you point guns at someone, and laughingly wink when your disciples talk about eliminating the target, you can’t claim innocence if the target and innocent bystanders get shot, even if it wasn’t your own finger on the trigger.
ReplyDeleteThis is akin to yelling “fire” in a crowded movie theater, then protesting that you didn't step on any of the children or adults who get trampled in the resulting panic.
Sarah talks a lot about "liberals" being held accountable. Well, now it’s her turn.
Gryphen - Thanks for this most excellent post! I applaud your comprehensive and effective coverage of yesterday's horrific event.
ReplyDeleteI understand if you don't have the heart to watch tonight's airing of the SPAK finale. Pamper yourself as much as you need. There will certainly be other opportunities to watch it if it seems worth the effort. The preview made it look like it's mostly a big snoozefest.
I do hope Sarah and her bots won't ever have the satisfaction of shutting up your criticism and efforts to expose her fraud. May we soon see the glorious day when her best option is to choose to retreat forever from political life.
I just read Andrew Sullivan's last post with regard to Boehner and Driehaus, his political opponent and reported by Matt Taibbi. Note it is dated January 5th, 2011. 3 days before AZ.
ReplyDeletehttp://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/boehners-response.html
I hope that the decision to watch tonight's show or not is taken from you by TLC's cancellation or postponement of the show. If not, please do not watch.
ReplyDeleteI cannot imagine spending one second looking and listening to that woman, knowing that a young girl and five others lost their lives yesterday, in part because of the hatred that Palin has stirred up in our country.
And I can't imagine that visitors to this blog care about what Palin does on tonight's episode of unreality. Do us all a favor and help to exile her to a world where she is ignored and shunned, as she deserves.
I, too, spent a good part of the day yesterday crying for the victims and their families and my heart was broken when I heard about Christina. That she was born on September 11th, in the midst of a national tragedy, and died yesterday in the midst of another, seemed too cruel to contemplate. Perhaps those who considered watching tonight's show can instead spend the time pondering how we can work together to make the hate of the recent years a thing of the past.
Oh, my gosh. I had written up a whole long rambling post, and then it disappeared, because it was too long. :(
ReplyDeleteI am simply heartbroken by this story. Wish that someone would finally have the cojones to stop this mad woman in her tracks, sue the #$%^ out of her and put her away for life behind iron bars in a very tight long-sleeved jacket that closes behind her back, and put pictures of all the victims on the walls in her cell, so she has to see them every day for the rest of her life.
May she rot in hell.
Also, I hope people will get together and start a class action lawsuit against Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter for causing mental distress to to people, for being instigators of violence.
Also, too, it is time that threats are being followed up and investigated - not just put aside as political partisanship.
Sorry, I am simply too distraught to say more right now.
R.I.P. all you victims of this domestic terrorist who followed the lunatic spewings of Palin et al!
Oh, and also, too: It is not only Palin who is responsible for the terrorist rhetoric - it is also Rebecca Manseur who is responsible. Maybe she has some conscience, maybe that's why she is trying to distance herself from Palin. But it should be hammered home to her that SHE is the one who wrote those words - she might have been egged-on by Palin, but in the end, SHE IS THE ONE who wrote the exact words.
ReplyDeleteThe NYDN poll is being over-run by the bots! Please, people go vote there (and, I guess, vote often, because that's what the bots are doing!)
ReplyDeleteHere is a tinyurl link to it:
http://tinyurl.com/2vpxdrt
this child is around the same age as piper
ReplyDeleteGryphen, you have a daughter, I have a daughter: they are the lights of our lives. This hurts, to see that little girl's face, to know that she was intelligent, curious, politically aware and innocent. To imagine but not really know (thankfully) the hurt her parents are feeling. Yesterday, when I heard of the shooting, I started crying. Before I was reminded of the crosshairs map; before I knew others had been shot/killed; before I knew a beautiful 9 year old girl lost her life. I cried off and on most of the day; then my energy just left me. Today I am angry and yet stoic. I want Palin and anything to do with her to go away, but not before they are made to pay for the hurt they have inflicted on this country, and the crimes they have committed. I want her to pay for the crosshairs map's evil influence, but to also be exposed for the absolute hypocritic fraud she is.
ReplyDelete"We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights," she said in an interview with talk radio host Tammy Bruce Saturday. "It was simply crosshairs like you'd see on maps."
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Sarah Palin BRAGGED about her "bullseye tweet", and what map on earth has "bullseye targets" or "crosshairs"?:
@SarahPalinUSA
Sarah Palin
Remember months ago "bullseye" icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin' incumbent seats? We won 18 out of 20 (90% success rate;T'aint bad)
4 Nov via Twitter for BlackBerry® Favorite Retweet Reply
Retweeted by worsement and 100+ others
http://twitter.com/#!/SarahPalinUSA/status/29677744457
And what about the sitting family court judge in Alaska overseeing her daughter Bristol's custody case?
Palin posted the judge's name, work, and HOME addresses and phone numbers on her Facebook page with a list of grievances against the judge.
Consequently the judge had so many serious death threats that she was under guard 24/7, escorted to and from her home by Alaskan State Troopers, over a custody case !!
Sarah Palin is many things, but one thing she is NOT is innocent
Sorry, I left put the first part of my post;
ReplyDeleteSarahPAC staffer Rebecca Mansour, who has been tweeting in defense of her boss since the tragedy took place, is stating that the crosshairs were never intended to be gun sights.
“We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights,” she said in an interview with talk radio host Tammy Bruce Saturday.
“It was simply crosshairs like you’d see on maps.”
Bruce suggested that they could, in fact, be seen as “surveyor’s symbols.”
Mansour added that “it never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent” and called any attempts to politicize the Arizona tragedy “repulsive.”
“We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights,” she said in an interview with talk radio host Tammy Bruce Saturday. “It was simply crosshairs like you’d see on maps.”
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Sarah Palin BRAGGED about her “bullseye tweet”, and what map on earth has “bullseye targets” or “crosshairs”?:
@SarahPalinUSA
Sarah Palin
Remember months ago “bullseye” icon used 2 target the 20 Obamacare-lovin’ incumbent seats? We won 18 out of 20 (90% success rate;T’aint bad)
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http://twitter.com/#!/SarahPalinUSA/status/29677744457
And what about the sitting family court judge in Alaska overseeing her daughter Bristol’s custody case?
Palin posted the judge’s name, work, and HOME addresses and phone numbers on her Facebook page with a list of grievances against the judge.
Consequently the judge had so many serious death threats that she was under guard 24/7, escorted to and from her home by Alaskan State Troopers, over a custody case !!
Sarah Palin is many things, but one thing she is NOT……. is innocent
In Italian, a murderess is called an "assassina".
ReplyDeleteNew name for SP: Sarassassina
As I have watched some of the coverage of this horrible masacre, something occurred to me. Perhaps Sarah Palin will, once again, manage to slither away, virtually untouched by the realization that words such as hers are not only inappropriate but dangerious. Unless a photo is found of Sarah Palin actually pulling the trigger of the gun which wreaked such desolation, she and her supporters will continue to stubbornely contend that she has said/done nothing wrong.
ReplyDeleteHowever, she may still be affected by the aftermath of this event. Politicians from both sides of the aisle are vowing to "dial back" the rhetoric and speak of one another with more respect. If they're serious and actually follow through, at least on the surface, with their promises, what will become of Sarah Palin? What does she have to say that isn't laced with snark, sarcasm, hate, and thinly veiled envy? If she continues in that vein in the wake of yesterday's events, she will be marginalized even further. But if she does not, she has nothing to say---an empty vessel once the hatred and anger are eliminated.
This event has brought out a lot of side stories about how our Democratic legislators were harassed, one could even say terrorized, in the run up to health care reform legislation. I definitely hold Palin and her death panels responsible for that. The strutting braggart. She was all gung ho on the gun imagery before, with her defiant Facebook posts...but now the coward is sending out her minions to backtrack.
ReplyDeleteI feel the same way as you, Gryphen. Especially after reading about this little girl. Loved seeing what all she was interested in - to include politics at her tender young age. I cannot imagine what her parents are going through!
ReplyDeleteThe Palins do not attend church in Wasilla much, but it is the place they should have been all been this morning - asking for forgiveness for all the evil they have spread throughout Alaska and the U.S. these past few years.
Sarah assuredly has blood on her hands and will meet her maker one of these days and have to answer for her lies, misdeeds, etc. I sincerely doubt 'heaven' is in her sites!
RIP little Christina Taylor Green!
Sarah tells us that, in Alaska, the local gun store is equivalent to the local barbershop in other places.
ReplyDeleteIn Wasilla Chimo Guns is the "barbershop" the Palin's love. A day in the life of a Matanuska Susitna shop? Barbershop quartet, denoting or characterized by a type of close four-part harmony.
Chimos Guns may have inspired Palin. They posted a picture of our President that coincides with Palin's visual rhetoric bullseye. Btw, did did Oprah get her poster?
Chimo Gun's poster of our President can be seen in this revealing Palin family video.
Gryphen, this needs to go national regarding Palin...it would bring her down, which is sorely needed! I grow to dislike her more and more each day and I've followed her since she ran for governor of Alaska. (Didn't vote for her needless to say!)
ReplyDeletePerhaps Sarah Palin will, once again, manage to slither away, virtually untouched by the realization that words such as hers are not only inappropriate but dangerious
ReplyDeleteSarah can just lay low until things blow over. Radio voices can talk for her or she can do Hannity or another Hate Radio genre. Twitter and facebook can be anybody pretending to be her. She may even decide to show her latest look on Fox one day soon.
Sarah is not going to mend her ways with out a genuine mea culpa or come to Jesus moment that can convince everyone of her sincerity. I don't think she has it to be sincere or to even fake that but who knows what she will attempt next.
Without taking responsibility she and her supporters will grow more hollow and ineffective by the day. Meanwhile, they are all about the same old moose-crap. Targeting the Obamas and spreading the rancor.
Latest on shooting of Congresswoman Giffords...motivation Hate crime? Anti-immigration? Ties to American Renaissance. Is Palin booking her ticket to do Israel as I type?
Bristol is calling out her mother on her twitter page. Her post:
ReplyDelete"You are a paid member of the "lame stream media" you're always referring to, mom. Fire all of your ghost writers and tweet for yourself :("
Very interesting...that was supposedly 4 hours ago. Wonder if it will disappear, but I retweeted it.
JillinOH
anon 7:12, it is not unusual for a member of Congress to receive hate mail, or a government official, or even a school teacher. Do you want the kind of society that everyone who feels threatened should use security. What about those innocent bystanders? Frankly, as the Secret Service is aware, if someone is intent on doing harm without regard for his own life, then it is nearly impossible to stop them. This is an angry and mentally disturbed man.The rhetoric used by Palin and others put the target on this Congresswoman.
ReplyDeleteI can't help but worry about the other guy who is still a target according to her crosshairs tweet. She said that they successfully unseated 18 or the 20 targets, leaving Giffords and someone else (can't recall who) This, to me, is even more indicative of a connection between SP and this horrific crime.
ReplyDeleteA good day for John Lennon's "Imagine" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg
ReplyDeleteStraight lines.
ReplyDeleteA straight line from Bill O'Reilly to Scott Roeder, who murdered Dr. George Tiller in his church.
Straight lines from Glenn Beck to Byron Williams, the Tides Foundation shooter - as well as Richard Poplawski, the cop-killer in Pittsburgh.
A straight line from Sarah Palin to Jared Loughner, 13 injured and six dead, including a dead Federal judge and a dead nine-year-old girl.
Same age as Piper.
Sarah likes to draw lines in the sand.
Straight lines, Sarah?
A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border.
ReplyDeleteThe CBC here in Canada also shed light on Palin's potential role in catalyzing this tragedy.
ReplyDeleteHopefully, it will be the end of the fetid cuntess. Hey Sarah, you ready to put YOUR life on the line for America?
(crickets)
I thought not. Bitch.
After hearing Palin's comment following her tv hunting episode ("It was fun!"), her comment about how there's room for wildlife...next to the vegies on her plate, watching her Thanksgiving Day telecast in front of the turkey grinder, and seeing her approve some of the worst and most brutal wildlife management measures in Alaskan history, the idea she could have incited someone to this end comes as no surprise to me.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, despite her pious postings about condolences it would not surprise me to find somewhere in her simple little NRA mind part of her is titillated by the thought she can provoke such a response in one of her followers.
I have to wonder how long it will be before Sarah's favorite group, the NRA, comes out with their usual trite banality, "Guns don't kill people; people kill people." Problem is, according to all the reports none of the victims of this incident was shot with a person and Ms. Giffords did not suffer a person wound to her head. It was Sarah's favorite toy, the totem of the NRA....a gun.
ReplyDeleteThis March Madness ranting is exactly the kind of example that one would hope would be exposed in the big Newspapers and Television Stations as dangerous, why has it not?????
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