The bill prohibits insurance companies from refusing coverage to people with pre-existing conditions and from charging sick people higher premiums. [1] It attempts to offset the costs this will impose on insurance companies by requiring everyone to purchase coverage, which in theory would expand the pool of paying policy holders. (So far, so good. It seems that this ghostwriter has an essential understanding of the Baucus bill as it stands right now. Oooh somebody has been doing some reading, proof positive that this is not Palin.)
However, the maximum fine for those who refuse to purchase health insurance is $750. [2] Even factoring in government subsidies, the cost of purchasing a plan is much more than $750. The result: many people, especially the young and healthy, will simply not buy coverage, choosing to pay the fine instead. They’ll wait until they’re sick to buy health insurance, confident in the knowledge that insurance companies can’t deny them coverage. Such a scenario is a perfect storm for increasing the cost of health care and creating an unsustainable mandate program.
("Perfect storm"? More like a light sprinkle. First this assumes that MOST young people cannot do math, and also that they would prefer to stick it to "the man" rather than purchase insurance. A fine of $750.00 is a lump sum required when it is discovered that the person does not have health insurance, this will obviously come at the same time that they are also in the hospital for something fairly catastrophic since they would avoid the doctor at all costs until they had no choice but to go. So the $750.00 would be on top of many thousands of dollars of emergency care. How is that more cost effective than spending $200+ dollars a month in insurance costs? Is it the norm to discover young drivers driving without car insurance? Nope. It happens, but it is not something that the average young driver chooses to do. How is THIS any different? I don't think Palin has much confidence in the youth of America. Hmmm I wonder why?)
Those driving this plan no doubt have good intentions, but good intentions aren’t enough. There were good intentions behind the drive to increase home ownership for lower-income Americans, but forcing financial institutions to give loans to people who couldn’t afford them had terrible unintended consequences. We all felt those consequences during the financial collapse last year. Unintended consequences always result from top-down big government plans like the current health care proposals, and we can’t afford to ignore that fact again.
(Wrong again cupcake. The housing bust was the result of an out of control free market artificially inflating home prices, and using houses as poker chips in a risky attempt to make more money, WITHOUT adequate government oversight.)
Supposedly the Senate Finance bill will be paid for by cutting Medicare by nearly half a trillion dollars and by taxing the so-called “Cadillac” health care plans enjoyed by many union members. The plan will also impose heavy taxes on insurers, pharmaceutical companies, medical device companies, and clinical labs. (These companies are at the very heart of why our medical costs are out of control. Tax them? Hell we should seize the vacation homes, fancy yachts and private planes they purchased by overcharging sick people, sell it back to them, and use those profits to buy health care for the entire country. Don't think it would not cover the cost either!) [3] The result of all of these taxes is clear. As Douglas Holtz-Eakin noted in the Wall Street Journal, these new taxes “will be passed on to consumers by either directly raising insurance premiums, or by fueling higher health-care costs that inevitably lead to higher premiums.” [4] Unfortunately, it will lead to lower wages too, as employees will have to sacrifice a greater percentage of their paychecks to cover these higher premiums. [5] In other words, if the Democrats succeed in overhauling health care, we’ll all bear the costs. The Senate Finance bill is effectively a middle class tax increase, and as Holtz-Eakin points out, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation those making less than $200,000 will be hit hardest. [6]
With our country’s debt and deficits growing at an alarming rate ( Bush's legacy, not Obama's), many of us can’t help but wonder how we can afford a new trillion dollar entitlement program. The president has promised that he won’t sign a health care bill if it “adds even one dime to our deficit over the next decade.” [7] But his administration also promised that his nearly trillion dollar stimulus plan would keep the unemployment rate below 8%. [8] Last month, our unemployment rate was 9.8%, the highest it’s been in 26 years. [9] At first the current administration promised that the stimulus would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. [10] Then they declared that it created 1 million jobs, but the stimulus reports released this week showed that a mere 30,083 jobs have been created, while nearly 3.4 million jobs have been lost since the stimulus was passed. [11] Should we believe the administration’s claims about health care when their promises have proven so unreliable about the stimulus?
(Should we perhaps give the programs a chance to work before we judge them as failures? You don't decide a car is a good purchase if all you have done is back it out of the driveway. Let this vehicle hit the road for a while before calling it a lemon. And Jesus, what did Sarah Palin ever do that stood up to any public scrutiny at all?)
In January 2008, presidential candidate Obama promised not to negotiate behind closed doors with health care lobbyists. In fact, he committed to “broadcasting those negotiations on C-SPAN so that the American people can see what the choices are. Because part of what we have to do is enlist the American people in this process. And overcoming the special interests and the lobbyists...” [12] However, last February, after serving only a few weeks in office, President Obama met privately at the White House with health care industry executives and lobbyists. [13] Yesterday, POLITICO reported that aides to President Obama and Democrat Senator Max Baucus met with corporate lobbyists in April to help “set in motion a multimillion-dollar advertising campaign, primarily financed by industry groups, that has played a key role in bolstering public support for health care reform.” [14] Needless to say, their negotiations were not broadcast on C-SPAN for the American people to see.Presidential candidate Obama also promised that he would not “sign any nonemergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House Web site for five days.” [15] PolitiFact reports that this promise has already been broken three times by the current administration. [16] We can only hope that it won’t be broken again with health care reform.
All of this certainly gives the appearance of politics-as-usual in Washington with no change in sight.
Americans want health care reform because we want affordable health care. We don’t need subsidies or a public option. We don’t need a nationalized health care industry. We need to reduce health care costs. But the Senate Finance plan will dramatically increase those costs, all the while ignoring common sense cost-saving measures like tort reform. Though a Congressional Budget Office report confirmed that reforming medical malpractice and liability laws could save as much as $54 billion over the next ten years, tort reform is nowhere to be found in the Senate Finance bill. [17]
(For one thing "tort reform" will not bring the costs of medical coverage down nearly as much as the Republicans say it will. If this was the "end all" to the high costs of health care then why did the Republicans not deal with it when they were in control of the Presidency, the Senate and the Congress? Because it would not do a damn thing to bring down health care costs and they know it! And since much of their campaign money comes from the insurance companies why would they want to damage their ability to make a profit?)
Here’s a novel idea. Instead of working contrary to the free market, let’s embrace the free market. (Because it did such a bang up job in the housing industry and wall street right?) Instead of going to war with certain private sector companies, let’s embrace real private-sector competition and allow consumers to purchase plans across state lines. Instead of taxing the so-called “Cadillac” plans that people get through their employers, let’s give individuals who purchase their own health care the same tax benefits we currently give employer-provided health care recipients. Instead of crippling Medicare, let’s reform it by providing recipients with vouchers so that they can purchase their own coverage. (What is it with these people and "vouchers"? They wanted them for private and home schools and now they want them for health insurance? Will these also be used for "Christian based" health care, like the school vouchers were used to pump federal money into Christian school organizations?)Now is the time to make your voices heard before it’s too late. If we don’t fight for the market-oriented, patient-centered, and result-driven reform plan that we deserve, we’ll be left with the disastrous unintended consequences of the plans currently being cooked up in Washington.
- Sarah Palin('s Ghostwriter)
You know I hate to piss on this Facebook writers little pity parade here, but if you boil down her/his entire argument, it looks like she/he is in favor of a public option but just does not know it.
Are insurance costs for patients too high? Yep.
Are insurance costs for doctor's too high? Yep.
Are medical supply companies charging way too much for their products? Yep.
Is there ANY incentive for the insurance companies to change their wildly profitable methodology. Nope.
Will the Baucus bill fix all of this? Nope.
But do you know what WOULD bring down health care costs? A public option. An option to purchase insurance that would force the big insurance companies to compete or fail. That would refuse to pay pharmaceutical companies the exorbitant prices they charge in America for brand name drugs. That would pay for necessary medical treatment while refusing to pay for unnecessary, but more profitable, medical treatment. And that would not refuse a patient with pre-existing conditions like a Cesarean, spousal abuse, or current pregnancy.
And perhaps while we are suggesting a public option for patients it would not be a bad idea to provide a public insurance option for doctor's so that insurance companies cannot charge them these incredible premiums.
It seems that in some bizarre way, Palin's ghostwriter and I are in agreement that something must be done about health care costs in this country. We only disagree on the method for dealing with the problem in that, I would actually like to do something that would work, and she/he wants to continue to use the faith based method. You know, praying for a miracle.
Can you imagine her typing up this facebook post amidst all that banging and stuff going on with the new construction?
ReplyDeleteI suppose lots of politicians and important people have ghostwriters, but the difference with this chick is we all can so easily TELL she is incapable of writing in this manner herself.
Probably, somebody is hired to "run" her facebook page, just like she hired somebody to "run" the city of Wasilla for her, just like she let the state of AK "run" itself while she enjoyed all the perks.
That has got to be lots of bangin' and poundin' and whatnot goin' on for that castle-y structure to have gone up so quickly. Next time we see an update, I expect the cheap siding will be all in place.
From a Canadian POV the one thing I find very troubling about this exercize is that a person would have to be fined for not buying healthcare. Sorry but that stinks to begin with. But I understand it is indicative of the overall American attitude toward healthcare insurance and so it becomes necessary. Necessary, but nonetheless it's ammunition for those who oppose the change that is necessary.
ReplyDeleteSomething is very wrong, wrong, wrong, and I fear it is that your country is not ready for meaningful healthcare reform yet. Or aat least, there are too many who are not ready. Those who are need to take the gloves off and start fighting hard for this or it's going to evaporate away before your eyes.
Luv from Canada.
Gryphen, you are so right. The only thing that is ever going to force the insurance companies to bring down their prices is competition. The public option is the only remedy that can work. The insurance companies know that and so does everyone else now.
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I don't think I want to even imagine pounding and bangin in the same sentence as Palin... just a bad visual there, anon at 9:52 AM.
ReplyDeleteNow where did I put that brain bleach?
Sarah, if you or one of your minions reads this...why don't you express your concerns on the national news shows? You obviously have a lot to say on the matter and you've obviously given it a lot of thought. I for one would love to hear you express yourself among your political and pundit colleagues.
ReplyDeleteAre you going to sit on the sidelines whispering strategy and watching the big boys (and girls) play, or are you going to join the game? Come on barracuda, don't be such a coward.
I hope you AK bloggers are keeping copies of her posts. If the witch ever runs for office, she will never be able to remember what she claims in the facebook posts and op/ed articles. She will either have to admit to signing her name to someone else comments or she will be nailed to the cross by the media.
ReplyDeleteI’m not opposed to a mandate on buying into a strong public option with subsidies for those who truly can’t afford to buy it. But, make no mistake, the Baucus Plan as it stands right now is to force us into buying junk insurance that won’t give adequate coverage but will still be quite expensive. The bill that came out of the Senate Finance Committee is a national disgrace and shows what total disregard what some in our government have for the American people.
ReplyDeleteI'm living on $800 a month -- and lucky to have it. It doesn't go far, but since I downgraded to a small basement room I can get by. No car (therefore, no need for insurance) no cable, no entertaining, second-hand everything. No shot at a job right now. Tell me where I'm going to find $200 for *limited* coverage insurance payments? I am absolutely aware that my health care would be minimal and contested to the last asperin. I once worked insurance claims!
ReplyDeleteThey can fine me, but it will be public money wasted on court costs, I couldn't pay the fine, and an illegally overcrowded jail is the only other option. How many tens of thousands of poor would be penalized?
Would I like to have insurance? Yes. I've paid taxes all my life and have never taken a penny off the government, not in unemployment or anything else. (And for the record, I'm not living off divorce, either!) I'd gladly pay an additional 10-15% in federal taxes for coverage -- somehow, the moorage fees for my yacht just don't seem to matter much anymore.
But I'm not voluntarily -- or under duress -- handing money over to a private industry with the collective moral compass of Mdm. DeFarge.
The only other private industry that demands unconditional financial support is religion -- and while my mother belived in tything, I'd rather spread the news that the bishop who forged the catholic victim's payment plan in Canada was detained by Customs while returning from the Vatican, his laptop was examained, and he has been charged with selling and exchanging child p*ornography.
Force me to buy bagels! Force me to support the silk plant industry! Force me to buy absinthe! At least I'll get something out of it.
And why is Palin not covered on the entertainment page? Not like she's a political entity -- let's just file her purported exploits with Jon&Kate.
Democrats, at least most of them, want to bring down health care costs is by providing competition with a robust public option.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans want to bring down health care costs by continuing to do the same thing (doing nothing new) and expecting a different result.
Quoting Albert Einstein:
"The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Who is being stupid here, Democrats or republicans?
WORDS WORDS WORDS. STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES...
ReplyDeleteAPPARENTLY ALL THE WORDS IN THE WORLD WILL NOT BRING SARAH DOWN.
It's a mystery to me, but apparently even Gryphen is impotent. She's whipped him with one arm behind her back.
If the media won't pay attention to Palin then they won't pay attention to anything else that's talked about hers. So what is the point????????????
So "SP" is worried about taxing the poor abused health insurance companies and drug companies? Boo hoo. Forget taxing them, I want to see them arrested and charged with murder for every person that died due to greed. The whole thing that's wrong with health care in American is caused by those guys.
ReplyDeleteWhen do we stop pretending the private sale of "health insurance" is a business and start calling it a scam, a fraud, a crime?
If the "free enterprise" system was going to fix things, it could have done it long ago. It's not happening.
As for that "$750" fine for not buying "insurance", uh, I read that is was a $25,000 fine or a year in prison. Yeah, that's right, 25 freaking thousand. I wouldn't have believed it either if I hadn't read it, so here's where I found it on the web:
http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0909/Ensign_receives_handwritten_confirmation_.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/027124_health_health_insurance_America.html
"I don't think Palin has much confidence in the youth of America. Hmmm I wonder why?"
ReplyDeleteSeven words: Rap music and out-of-control texting.
Next question
Sock it to her Gryphen! Her facebook rants are really nothing more than soviet-style pronouncements. No discusion. No questions. Very much a dictatorial style.
ReplyDeleteI just don't get it...
ReplyDeleteI appreciate Obama's attempts here, but what exactly is wrong with National Health Care?
For a nation full of people who can't/don't go to the doctor and dentist when it's necessary?
Why.Not.
Right NOW, in ALASKA, parents are REQUIRED to provide health insurance plans for children.
ReplyDeleteHow do they enforce that? Good question?
Right NOW, in ALASKA, child support orders punish parents who do not have health insurance plans.
If a child needs medical attention and lack of insurance is apparent, for whatever reason, like an application to Denali KidCare (Alaska's plan to provide medical care for children of working-class families who do not qualify for poor people's stuff), it triggers an additional financial assessment in the form of wage garnishment.
Parents are mandated to purchase health insurance, but HOW and from WHOM???!!!
Thanks, Alaska! Thanks, Sarah! Thanks, Legislators!
"Soviet-style pronouncements," you betcha, Anon 12:29. Because we've seen what happens when people ask $P, shoot, gosh, what are those things called? Questions!
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Great job debunking the facebook note...Sarah's ghostwriter's collection of Republican talking points! Very interesting idea about public liability insurance for medical providers!
ReplyDeleteI am with those who oppose mandates for buying insurance. There will be many folks who simply can't afford health insurance, even if it's a public plan. Does the mandate mean people can't pay fee for service, which they may be able to afford? Or will they be able to pay fee for service if they pay the 'uninsured fine'?
Gryphen I would like to say on behalf of many many others who just don't write it down a big THANK YOU for taking the time to do the chore of speaking point by point to Palin's Policy Ghostwriter - no doubt an entity that got its start in entertainment as a villein on Scooby-Do.
ReplyDeleteJoking aside, making the effort to refute the essential dumbness of this ongoingn Facebook policy piece charade point by point takes some time, and it is much appreciated that you do it, and do it so well.
17 footnotes? Did she use a calculator to count that high? She's foolin' nobody!!
ReplyDeleteI just have one thing to say to Sarah - "When you come to Texas to stump for Gov. Goodhair, ask the people you meet how tort reform is working for them?"
ReplyDeleteI live in Texas and tort reform was passed several years ago. Have the costs of insurance gone down? Nope, still waiting for that to happen. Not only that, 25% of Texans have no health insurance because they can't afford it, not because they don't want it. Tort reform is NOT the answer.
For real health care reform, we need the following:
ReplyDelete1. Tort reform
2. A government not-for-profit liability insurance program for the doctors, paramedics, and hospitals
3. No lobbying allowed for anything to do with healthcare
4. No political donations allowed from pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and medical supply companies
5. All medical insurance must be not-for-profit
6. No pre-existing conditions or denials of insurance
Then you will have medical reform that means something and helps everybody except the leeches at the top.
Has anyone thought to ask Sarah who pays for Trigs medical care?
ReplyDeleteMandated health insurance from parents will definitely help out the adoption business in a state that is anti-female.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how they can enforce mandated child health ins for everyone. For poor people who are expecting a baby and are up against a wall might just decide adoption is the way to go based on being told by one of the caring christiana groups they will get slapped with escalating insurance costs.
I'm going to advocate something I first suggested on Palingates a month or so ago: I'd love for someone with either a computer science or linguistics background to volunteer to scientifically prove Sarah Palin isn't the author of those policy-oriented Facebook posts by using one of the free, open-source authorship attribution programs out there. (There's one called JGAAP, for example--just Google for it). To do this, we'd need a large enough sample of something we know she did write, such as the Quitter speech, for comparative purposes. Any takers? Someone with decent tech skills might also be able to handle this, since JGAAP is intended to be user-friendly and understandable to the layperson.
ReplyDeleteThank goodness my state offers an "Insurance Pool" for people who have been denied private insurance. My Dr. ordered an MRI for a pinched nerve in my neck. Now I can't get private health insurance unless the insurance company puts a rider on any medical treatment, test, or medication having to do with my spine or bones. Doesn't matter that I'm not being treated for any medical condition. I've been black balled because I had a Dr. ordered MRI. Something has to be done about the Insurance companies. How would Ms. Palin like to find out she couldn't get health coverage for her son (??), Trig, because he has a pre-exisiting condition? Do you think she would be singing a different tune about health insurance? You betcha!
ReplyDeleteI agree with wakeupamerica @ 1:32pm.
ReplyDeleteand this whole notion of fining people who do not purchase coverage... good luck with that. can't get blood from a stone.
if your choice is to pay the rent or buy health insurance, what would you do? I'm much better off with a roof over my head than supporting the same losers that have been ripping off americans for decades. we are seriously doomed.
Tort reform was passed in Texas under Duhbya.
ReplyDeleteThe result was higher premiums for both doctor's liability and the public's health premiums.
The cap on legal liabilities of the insurance companies and prohibition of punitive damages makes winning a medical malpractice case so low that lawyers won’t take a case on spec and most people who have a mountain of medical bills can't afford a lawyer.
Net result - huge profits for the insurance companies who, after all, wrote the legislation and almost no chance of losing a malpractice suit, because there are no lawyers to take them.
Therefore there is not restraint on inept physicians who harm multiple patients and more malpractice injuries.
Scarah is simply a distraction. She has to keep her name in the news with a book coming out. She could not have written this, and would not be able to be interviewed and answer questions about it. I don't buy it.
ReplyDeleteI am lucky to have quite good insurance through my husband's job. I have a chronic condition that was pre-existing when we got married, but luckily I was able to get on his insurance dispite that (I'm sure they are lamenting that fact on a daily basis because I cost them a lot...and I smile while doing it).
ReplyDeleteI am on a variety of daily medications and ones for "break through pain," recently I tried a new muscle relaxant that my dr. gave me samples of. It worked pretty well so the next month I asked if I could have a script for it. My dr. gave me more samples which I thought was odd, but whatever.
The next month, I said I'd really like a script for these if that is possible so he asked how many I was taking a day (you can take 4). I said well usually 2 so he gave me a script for 3/day just to be safe. He also gave us a card for $30 the script.
So when my husband came back with it and I looked at the receipt I said this was $50 with the $30 off? He said I am not sure they took the $30 off so I called the pharmacy to inquire and was told they had indeed taken it off.
So 90 pills cost me $50, would have been $80 without the card. Anyone care to guess what it would have been with no insurance?
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$395.99
That comes to almost $4.40 for ONE pill and THAT is total insanity, IMO.
I don't take them every day or 3/day so that script will last me a long time, but how in the world would anyone actually be able to afford that.
I now know why my Dr. was giving me the samples (he is really great about making sure my med costs are reasonable and attainable).
It makes me sick to think about the people that don't have insurance and can't afford the treatments/meds they need. I was once in that position (and it resulted in my disablity) and am so thankful I am no longer in it, but NO ONE should be in that position.
All these people that have great insurance (read: senators/reps) that are balking at a public option should GIVE UP their great govt insurance and walk the walk. I bet it wouldn't take long for things to change if that was the case.
Fining people who don't buy insurance makes as much sense as expelling kids who don't go to school. So far it has been a camel made by a committee assigned to design a horse.
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