Sunday, November 08, 2009

Dennis Kucinich explains why he voted NO on HR 3962.

“We have been led to believe that we must make our health care choices only within the current structure of a predatory, for-profit insurance system which makes money not providing health care. We cannot fault the insurance companies for being what they are. But we can fault legislation in which the government incentivizes the perpetuation, indeed the strengthening, of the for-profit health insurance industry, the very source of the problem. When health insurance companies deny care or raise premiums, co-pays and deductibles they are simply trying to make a profit. That is our system.

“Clearly, the insurance companies are the problem, not the solution. They are driving up the cost of health care. Because their massive bureaucracy avoids paying bills so effectively, they force hospitals and doctors to hire their own bureaucracy to fight the insurance companies to avoid getting stuck with an unfair share of the bills. The result is that since 1970, the number of physicians has increased by less than 200% while the number of administrators has increased by 3000%. It is no wonder that 31 cents of every health care dollar goes to administrative costs, not toward providing care. Even those with insurance are at risk. The single biggest cause of bankruptcies in the U.S. is health insurance policies that do not cover you when you get sick.

“But instead of working toward the elimination of for-profit insurance, H.R. 3962 would put the government in the role of accelerating the privatization of health care. In H.R. 3962, the government is requiring at least 21 million Americans to buy private health insurance from the very industry that causes costs to be so high, which will result in at least $70 billion in new annual revenue, much of which is coming from taxpayers. This inevitably will lead to even more costs, more subsidies, and higher profits for insurance companies — a bailout under a blue cross.

“By incurring only a new requirement to cover pre-existing conditions, a weakened public option, and a few other important but limited concessions, the health insurance companies are getting quite a deal. The Center for American Progress’ blog, Think Progress, states “since the President signaled that he is backing away from the public option, health insurance stocks have been on the rise.” Similarly, healthcare stocks rallied when Senator Max Baucus introduced a bill without a public option. Bloomberg reports that Curtis Lane, a prominent health industry investor, predicted a few weeks ago that “money will start flowing in again” to health insurance stocks after passage of the legislation. Investors.com last month reported that pharmacy benefit managers share prices are hitting all-time highs, with the only industry worry that the Administration would reverse its decision not to negotiate Medicare Part D drug prices, leaving in place a Bush Administration policy.

“During the debate, when the interests of insurance companies would have been effectively challenged, that challenge was turned back. The “robust public option” which would have offered a modicum of competition to a monopolistic industry was whittled down from an initial potential enrollment of 129 million Americans to 6 million. An amendment which would have protected the rights of states to pursue single-payer health care was stripped from the bill at the request of the Administration. Looking ahead, we cringe at the prospect of even greater favors for insurance companies.

“Recent rises in unemployment indicate a widening separation between the finance economy and the real economy. The finance economy considers the health of Wall Street, rising corporate profits, and banks’ hoarding of cash, much of it from taxpayers, as sign of an economic recovery. However in the real economy -- in which most Americans live -- the recession is not over. Rising unemployment, business failures, bankruptcies and foreclosures are still hammering Main Street.

“This health care bill continues the redistribution of wealth to Wall Street at the expense of America’s manufacturing and service economies which suffer from costs other countries do not have to bear, especially the cost of health care. America continues to stand out among all industrialized nations for its privatized health care system. As a result, we are less competitive in steel, automotive, aerospace and shipping while other countries subsidize their exports in these areas through socializing the cost of health care.

“Notwithstanding the fate of H.R. 3962, America will someday come to recognize the broad social and economic benefits of a not-for-profit, single-payer health care system, which is good for the American people and good for America’s businesses, with of course the notable exceptions being insurance and pharmaceuticals.”


Look I have the deepest of respect fro Congressman Kucinich. He is a man of deep principle and unequalled courage. Many times he was the lone voice voice heard in the House calling George Bush, and his crooked administration, out on their lies.

He campaigned for President when he full well that he had no real chance, in order to educate the people of this country and call out the other candidates on their bullshit.

However as bad as this bill is, and holy crap it is pretty bad, it is the first step in a process that would not even begin without first getting SOMETHING through the House. Is this bill the best we can do? God I hope not, but it may be the best we can do right now.

I think that it is sometimes important to see past your principles in order to see the big picture. Obama got a health care reform bill through Congress! Dammit that is HUGE! Kucinich should have been part of that victory. He can bitch about the details later, but at least his vote would be on the side of PROGESS.

Look at what this bill does.

The Numbers: H.R. 3962 will cover 96% of Americans, at a 10-year cost of “under $900 billion.” It will reduce the deficit by $104 billion over the same time period, and reduce Medicare spending growth 1.3% annually by cutting $400 billion primarily from private Medicare Advantage plans. Don’t feel sorry for them, see #2.

Consumer Protections: Guaranteed coverage, limited premium variations, standard minimum benefits packages and employer/individual mandates are all still included. That last one protects people from medical bankruptcy. But best of all, insurers are now required to spend 85% of premium revenue on members’ care. Currently in private Medicare Advantage plans, it’s almost the inverse; only $0.14 of every $1.00 in premiums is spent on members’ care. The bill also closes the “donut hole” in Medicare Part D, reducing senior’s out-of-pocket prescription expenses. Prevention and wellness services will be provided in all plans at no cost.

Selective Taxation: The bill derives revenue from a 5.4% “millionaire’s tax” on individuals making over $500,000 and couples making over $1 million (0.3% of households in the US, to be exact.) It also taxes medical device makers to the tune of $20 billion.

Choice and Potential Competition: A public option will finally give consumers another choice besides private insurance or nothing. The Insurance Exchange where we can compare plans remains intact.

Insurance Anti-trust Exemption: This feature, unique to health insurance and baseball, is now history. Meaning private insurers are no longer immune to regulations concerning price-fixing, big rigging, and market allocation. The Federal Trade Commission also now has full rights to investigate the industry.

This is nothing to sneeze at. Perfect? Not even close. A victory? Yes, it is.

You know there have been numerous times when I have been very disappointed in President Obama. But recently I heard Obama's campaign manager David Plouffe say something. Something that my friend Shannyn Moore had also said a few months back to me. And here I am paraphrasing:

"Barack Obama is a chess player, in a world of checker players. Opponents see his move and think that he has lost the match. But while you are focused on that ONE move he is thinking three or four moves ahead, and ultimately the match will be his."

Kucinich is a smart man, perhaps he needs to take up chess.

Update: As for the other NO votes on this bill, I think this Washington Post comparison chart will be instructive.

32 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:23 AM

    I am a huge Kucinich supporter, and I agree with you, Gryphen. This is a START. Pres. Obama should be congratulated.

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  2. Anonymous7:44 AM

    DK voted NO - the RIGHT vote, but for the WRONG reasons.

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  3. Anonymous7:45 AM

    You have to start from somewhere! This shows Dennis's true colors IMHO!

    Lynn SoCal

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  4. Of all the thingss that the Senate bill will contain when they vote, if they ever vote, I'll be really REALLY mad if the Senate doesn't include the clause that eliminates the Insurance Anti-trust Exemption.

    I'd like the Congress to next deal with major league baseball's antitrust exemption. That's another travesty of capitalism.

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  5. Sorry, but for me? This is no victory at all. I will fall into that category of people who will be required to buy insurance I can't afford. There will be no public option for me, even though my job was cut back to only three days a week and my income doesn't even come close to meeting my expenses. I live on the good graces of my bank's overdraft protection and every single paycheck goes into the black hole of negative balance. Obama can be congratulated on working so hard to be everyone's president that he's ended up being no one's. Fierce advocate my ass.

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  6. emrysa8:12 AM

    I think there's a point that is being missed here.

    because this bill is based mostly around propping up the failed for-profit system, any changes that come down the pike will continue to prop-it-up. you see, now that they've gone this route, they will continue to go this route. it takes a REAL chess player to understand that this is what will happen down the road, so I think kucinich is a better chess player than you are giving him credit for.

    they needed to be stopped from going this route from the beginning. but now that the door has been opened...

    there's other problems as well but I think the biggest issue is that really the big winners here are the insurance companies, not the citizens.

    I mean really - 6 million people enrolled in a public option? a measley 6 million? this is something to cheer about when 45 million don't have insurance? those other 39 million are not going to purchase a private plan - if they could they would have done so already.

    mark my words... 2 years after this bill takes effect the insurance companies are going to start bitching that they're not making money anymore because they can't raise premiums to a certain extent. so all their lobbyists will go to congress and complain, and congress will give them what they want.

    kucinich was right to do what he did. now we've institutionalized bailouts for the insurance industry.

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  7. Anonymous8:23 AM

    I am hugely relieved we have gotten this far. But Kucinich makes a lot of good points. . .points that should not be forgotten as we move forward. He's dead on in a lot of ways. A 'robust' public option was finally going to create competition in an industry that does not lend itself to free market conditions. Anything short of that is not enough and may not even survive the hurly burly of putting it into effect.

    I'll take what we got, in this case, anyway.

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  8. David8:24 AM

    In viewing that WaPo chart, I'm amazed at the representatives with 20%, 30% or more uninsured consituents who voted against coverage.

    I was also amused to note that even the health insurance industry lobbyists think Michelle Bachman is too crazy to be worth trying to bribe with political donations.

    And Gryphen - I agree that the changes have to start somewhere and, while this is far from perfect, it is a start. And since when did the mandatory compromise process of wooing votes ever produce legislative perfection anyway?

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  9. Anonymous8:31 AM

    Taking steps towards a goal is better than sitting on your arse waiting for perfection. You go with what you can get and work on further steps. That's the way it works in most things.

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  10. Anonymous8:35 AM

    Actually, though I am for the bill for reasons stated in this blog
    This explanation from Kucinich was quite coherent and pleasant to read.. and informative..

    unlike Palin's Obama is out to kill us all.. each and everyone of you .. maybe she should take note that "this" is how you express yourself if you want people to get past the first sentence without rolling their eyes
    Present "facts" not speculation without any backing up but more far out phrases...

    just saying

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  11. Right Gryphen...what sets Obama apart from other politicians is that he sees the big picture, sets his goals, and stays the course. Stop doubting and start believing...become part of the solution, otherwise you are still the problem.

    Dennis Kucinich cut off his nose to spite his face, and he can sit on his high horse and pontificate, or he can get to work on making things happen. The US will never have a single payer system, we are too big, too diverse, and too capitalistic for that to ever happen. It may work in small European countries, but not here. There are too many ignorant masses who just don't get it...who will listen to Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and their ilk.

    You are in Alaska...work on booting out Don Young, and do everything you can to get a Democratic congressman, donate to Act Blue, the DNC, and write, call and campaign for candidates that support your views.

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  12. Anonymous8:51 AM

    I love Dennis K. He fights tireless for the underdog. I completely understand why he voted no and give him a pass on this one.

    So happy to see the House passed this. It's a start.

    Ohiovoter

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  13. Anonymous9:06 AM

    Gryphen,

    The comment by Plouffe and Shannon in my opinion is a great description of our President. We're all fans of Andrew Sullivan so if you haven't read this article Gryphen it is a must read.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article6879277.ece

    Andrew describes my President as I think I've come to 'know' him. I've spent three years studying, reading, researching, watching, etc. everything Obama and came to this very conclusion about him before we were even halfway through the primaries.

    On a side note I have a sibling who has a personal and previously professional relationship with both Obamas. Has met their siblings, parents, friends, attended their wedding, but most importantly worked in the professional world with them before Barack entered politics. I asked them to review this article (as it sounded quite familiar and like statements this sib had made before) and give me their opinion of what Andrew's observations.

    Their analysis was it was spot on to the man they have come to know and said it was the most realistic description of him yet, but as I said this person has seen him in action before he was a politician. They said they felt many years ago this very way of thinking was one of O's greatest strengths and was always impressed with the way he approaches a variety of subjects.

    He's also been such an observant student of the past that he knows he needs Americans (remember what Bill said to the Heckler at Netroots) to stay on Washington all the time or he will only get so far. One of the best ways to keep us on them is to let us think they're floundering a bit (in my opinion). We have to be the ones always pushing, always ready if we want real change. He can't go it alone, so I think strategically he needs us to think he's offstep a bit once in a while to keep our attention and to get us fired back up again any time he or they need us.

    We'll get there, but we still have a lot of work to do. He's going to need our voices the whole 8 years. It will be tiresome, we'll feel like quitting, we'll get sick of politics and we'll be frustrated many times, but in the end it will pay off.

    Ultimately I think with Obama and our voices we will change the path of politics for future generations so that voters never allow themselves to be asleep at the wheel ever again, but it will be hard and frustrating work.

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  14. I'm in the same boat, Kwach. I already can't afford jack shit - health insurance being laughably out of the question - now I'm going to get in trouble for it? It seems like this is going to make a bad situation worse for many people. For those of you who will benefit from any part(s) of the bill, congratulations. From my perspective, I'm still on the outside looking in and this immoral industry will henceforth now and forevermore PROFIT off human sickness and injury, with the government's wholehearted approval.

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  15. FEDUP!!!9:30 AM

    LOL! I just got it why $$$$arah does not want this bill: SHE WILL BE TAXED THE 5.4% EXTRA, SINCE SHE AND TOAD WILL BE AMONGST THE TINY (?) PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE MAKING MORE THAN $1MILLION/YEAR!!!

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  16. Anonymous9:46 AM

    People have to remember that the other countries that provide healthcare for their citizens, they too did it in stages. It never happened on the first bill. In fact, many of those countries still make changes to fix and change things.

    You can google to learn how UK, Canadian and whatever other country's healthcare to see how it came about. Kiefer Sutherland's grandfather Tommy Douglas was responsible for getting the Canadian system started in one province and then it later expanded countrywide.

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  17. Anonymous10:20 AM

    Yea, this was a great day for America—the first African American President and the first female Speaker of the House pass a crap health care bill that will set back civil rights for women (the Stupak Amendment) by about 60 years. Pretty ironic, too. Chess player my ass.

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  18. Anonymous10:32 AM

    BTW, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) is a staunch Roman Catholic who lives at the Christian cult on C-Street.

    The Stupak Amendment is a victory for Republicans and should be a slap in the face to all women who believe in having the choice on how to handle their own pregnancies.

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  19. Anonymous10:35 AM

    If you can't afford to pay for health care, the bill provides other ways for you to have it.

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  20. Anonymous10:40 AM

    Here’s a short 3 minute video explaining what the Stupak Amendment is and does. Wake up people (especially you women out there). Even the Democrats will take away your rights if you let them.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4vWWkWzszs

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  21. Anon 9:46, that may be so but other countries are not currently overrun with unsympathetic religious freaks who are nothing like the man they claim to worship, the man called the Great Physician. He didn't seem too crazy about money, but if he was he should've gone into healthcare administration to really clean up.

    Kucinich's amendment should've stayed in, to allow states to have their own single payer programs. At this rate, it seems certain that we will never have anything other than a thoroughly corporatist government.

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  22. Aussie Blue Sky10:52 AM

    I'm very disappointed in him. He might think he's standing on his principles, but he's simply standing in the way - and now the world knows we can't count on him to be on our side.

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  23. Anonymous12:16 PM

    @Andrea - Have you been to other countries recently? All countries have to cope with religious extremists.

    I agree with you that Jesus wasn't all about money, although I don't know how he could have cleaned up the greed in healthcare insurance since it didn't exist in his time in quite the same paradigm.

    The left is never satisfied and the right is insane. Stuck in the middle with you...

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  24. Anon 12:16 - yes I have been outside this country. I lived in Japan for four years. Not the best example of religious extremism.

    Sure, count me as not satisfied with a system that makes billions off human suffering, now with our government's eager assistance. Healthcare is a human right. It's not even denied to prisoners, for fuck's sake.

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  25. Anonymous1:20 PM

    Anon @ 12:16 PM

    I don’t think it’s so much that the left is never satisfied. It’s that the left is generally suspicious of the powerful and at least attempts to hold their own accountable, while the right blindly gets in line and follows their leaders like sheep (and yes, they’re insane, too).

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  26. Anonymous2:06 PM

    Gryphen, are you allowing profanity now in posts? Check out 1:07 on this thread.

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  27. Seems to me we are getting one boot out of the muck and stepping right into a pile of manure.Looks like we need a new kindof chess piece. To play this game.

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  28. Anonymous 2:06, this is the Immoral Minority, not a Presbyterian ladies sewing circle.

    Of course I allow some blue language. This is a blog for grownups, I am pretty sure we can take it.

    Don't you read my posts?

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  29. Anonymous4:12 PM

    Great vote by Dennis

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  30. Holy shit, was that for real? ^_^

    How unladylike of me!

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  31. Anonymous6:28 AM

    @Andrea, here's an article you should read, so that you're aware of what's going on in terms of religious extremism and other countries today: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/06/france-evangelical-church-growth-religion

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  32. I'm a former rightwing Christian so I'm well acquainted with the dangers posed by extremists here and elsewhere, but I will read that link.

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