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Number one Mr. Sanders the "blogosphere" was asking questions about the skeletons in Sarah's closet weeks before David Kernell published Sarah's e-mail account information.
Second Mr. Sanders why did you only mention TODD'S alleged affair? Is it because when the National Enquirer reported Sarah's affair with Brad Hanson NOBODY running the McCain campaign, or from the RNC, or in the Palin camp, threatened to file a lawsuit? And as we know if it had in fact been baseless there is no doubt they would have sued.
As for the "rumor" of Todd's alleged affair? Trust me that has never been disproven either. And it also had NOTHING to do with this e-mail account being made public.
The report that the FBI was investigating Sarah Palin stemmed from a misunderstanding which unfortunately caused somebody to identify the FBI as the agency investigating the Palins. Again no connection to the e-mail account.
And in the case of the Trig Palin birth story, we started working on that on August 29th. Well before Kernell started guessing Yahoo passwords. Oh by the way, that "rumor" is still alive and well.
Perhaps MSNBC could replace Mr. Sanders with a reporter who actually investigates the things he is reporting on. You know, just for a nice change of pace.
(And b the way if Sarah and Todd would like to finally put those "rumors" to rest, I have little doubt I could scrape together the money for both of them to take a lie detector test. Or I guess in some cases a DNA test might suffice as well.)
I do agree to some extent with the legal analysis of Susan Filan at the end of this video. If this were not Sarah Palin there would be NO consequence for this young man's actions. But her contention that the justice system is sending a strong message to potential hackers rings false. Let's be honest, even if Palin manages to get this kid sent away for 50 years, it will mean absolutely NOTHING to the average person who has their internet privacy violated. Unless they are as famous as Sarah Palin of course.
I wonder how Joe Biden would have handled this? I have a feeling he would have been a lot more forgiving.
ReplyDeleteCelebrities go through this kind of stuff all the time. You never hear about anyone going to prison for 50 years when they get Britney Spears info.
The system seems to feel that "stars" bring it on themselves because they seek fame and fortune.
Palin always acted like the "celebrity" vp candidate.
When they all go on Saturday Night Live as part of their campaigns, it's hard to tell the celebrities from the serious politicians.
Of course, if the Trig rumors started AFTER the private email account was made public, then obviously there was an incriminating email, ditto the affair.
ReplyDeleteDont we KNOW what the emails were that were actually seen? Wasn't there nothing there? The airplane photo of Willow and Trig, nothing weird about that and that photo was never "desecrated" like one from the campaign.
How does she get to talk, influence, the media when the kid does not.
ReplyDeleteI agree it is very poorly done media 'bit'.
She had to throw Track in there for the camera. That bit from SP about Track: ROF.
He had special treatment the entire time, and particularly during camp-aign. He couldnt reach her??
ROFLMAO.
The media is pretty lame, but not in the way The Grifter describes it.
ReplyDeleteGood rebuttal, Gryphen.
I call the trial in Knoxville malicious prosecution from the Department of Justice. With a little help from SP enablers. I would not put it past Cheney or McCain and do not think it would be a first for either one of them. Remember Judith Miller who helped best she could.
ReplyDeleteHere the print media has a perfect opportunity and second chance to apply investigative skills to address Sarah Palin's sketchy record both as a politician and a family woman.
ReplyDeleteThe Washingtonpost pointed out the descrepancies in an article on her testimony regarding rumors at odds with the timing of the 'hacking.' You know those Godly doors Sarah keeps talking about? She's thrown it WIDE open for a reporter with fortitude and cajones to pusue. ADN made a valient effort (in retrospect only showed how provincial and out of their pay grade) to put the Trig rumors to rest and Sarah's bizarre email exchange and logic of answering questions without actually answering questions successfully derailed their attempts.
Why should we care all these years later? This woman thinks she is not only chosen (which in a religious world let's you leapfrog any qualifiers) but she thinks she's got what it takes to be the most powerful person in the world. She wants to shrink goverment all the while shrink our civil liberties.
She has a proven record patterning her abuse of power no matter how piddly the role, she is dangerous. And MSM eats her tactics up like the meth her hometown is also too famous for.
This is awesome! Sarah Palin is coming out smelling like a rose! Even MSNBC is drooling over her. I never thought I'd see the day.
ReplyDeleteSo Gryphen, did you send your rebuttal directly to that commentator? And if not, why not? Chances are they will not read this blog. And you have information and material that we have got to start speaking up about. I have emailed the reporter at the Knoxville Sentinel and if I have not heard from him or her? by Monday, I will be sending another email or fax.
ReplyDeleteHell, Babygate was conceived while Sarah was still "pregnant" and wearing the scarves; it was alive and well months before 8/29.
ReplyDeleteDaisydem - good job! It seems NO ONE in the media is brave enough to start the ball rolling. Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteRep. Mike Kernell, Father of David Kernell
ReplyDeleteThe trial for David Kernell has started to see if he hacked Sarah Palin's personal email account a couple of years ago.
Do I know the answer on or off the record? No, I don't. I would suspect that any parent in the same situation would be advised by his attorney to talk to no one, especially a journalist. If Mike does talk to the media, I suspect it would be Rick Locker or Janice Broach, two Memphis journalists he has known for decades.
"Dont we KNOW what the emails were that were actually seen? Wasn't there nothing there? The airplane photo of Willow and Trig, nothing weird about that and that photo was never "desecrated" like one from the campaign."
ReplyDeleteairplane baby is not DS or FAS. That's what freaked SP out - she SAID Trig had DS..and that baby does not have anything wrong with him that is visible of course. SP had already made up the story that Willow knew as soon as she saw the baby that he had DS. Just more BS, which is normal everyday stuff for SP, the gifted liar.
Silly Sarah truly believed nobody would notice that it is not the same baby as presented on the book tour, or in various magazine spreads.
The scam was almost revealed.
I could not even watch it. Please, please someone expose this liar. Levi?
ReplyDeleteI agree with Daisydem. Gryphen remember you have said all along thatyou know for a fact that Trig is not Sarah's baby. Put up or shut up. This kid may go to jail for 50 years and you, Levi, Rex and laughable Tank, Mercede and the list goes on and on are going to say nothing. Pretty pathetic.
ReplyDeleteYou are so right AKPetMom: the rumors about Trig, about affairs, etc. were all there and circulating. That is how I came to be on these blogs. When I first heard that she, you know who, had been selected, I googled her name. One of the first things to pop up was Palin's Deceptions, a blog that dealt with the rumors about Trig, not out of any nastiness, or desire to hurt S. Palin, but out of curiousity about a story that seemed implausible! And the rest - well you know. Now I have been here for almost two years. I know more about AK politics than I do the politics in my own state. I also have learned so much about people, bloggers, Alaska, national politics. It is amazing! But folks, let us speak out. Lets inform the commentator, and reporters that these stories had nothing to do with the hacker. In fact it was in blogging about the issues with Palin (many) that already existed (Troopergate, Dairygate, Babygate) that we learned that her email had been violated.
ReplyDeleteThe media loves Drama. they will continue to fawn all over this slob, just the way they fawn all over ridiculous reality teevee losers.
ReplyDeletemeanwhile, the blogosphere continues to do the work.
On April 09, 2008 The Canberra Times brought up the affair. Again on 9/7/2008. Still available to read on line.
ReplyDeleteWe haven't heard from Todd on the stand yet. What he could say about the privacy invasion is anyone's guess but I for one would like to hear what he has to say.
ReplyDeleteThere has got to be a reason this trial is taking place and I feel the defense has something up there sleeve.
And I am asking...did the whole baby thing start with the dKos diary? The diary is no longer available but as I recall that was the first arrow slung.
Gryphen, please read Levi's account of telling his mom about Bristol's pregnancy in VF and compare it to Mercede's. They're very different. Either one of them has a bad memory or they are recalling two different events=two different pregnancies.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, I believe granny grifter is trying to "rewrite history" so instead of being a "Failed" VP candidate, she can say the Son of a Dem House of Rep "DeeRilled" her campaign!
ReplyDeleteNo matter that on Sept 16 the papers were full of Troopergate and Charlie Gibsons interview (I can see Russia from my house, that Tina Fey took from that and made famous)
No she is going to rewrite history and you are in there too Gryphen...."photos from my email have been 'DISTORTED'! The airplane pic with Willow(cross eyed and sticking tongue out making fun of Ruffles/TriG) is Ruffles...we all know this and so does she, she is trying to say you photo-shopped the Ruffles pics!!! And for extra measure she would add the FBI investigation that came out 9 most later...that was mentioned on MSNBC as a Embezzlement probe... that the palinbots morphed into FBI, and got some flunky on the phone that said no FBI investigation, (as if they would tell anyway) And that was the iceberg, that I still think is percolating but she wants swept under the rug....!
And last but not least she LIED!!!!
That personal email account was used for SOA business as seen by MSNBC released emails for anyone to check.
And we have lots of Patriots emailing all this evidence to David Kernell's defense attorney and one of the Knoxville reporters :D
Hurry! Somebody call a Wahhhm-bulance!
ReplyDeleteWhat a crock of bullshit!! Sarah says that ALL communication with her family was cut off. We're they unable to open another email account through which they could communicate? G-mail is free to anyone with about three minutes to open an account. Wasilla isn't so remote that new cell phones couldn't have been acquired while the secret service held the family phones. This notion that the Palin family couldn't communicate with one another in this day and age because of a single Yahoo account being breached is laughable - how does she get away with saying this shit?
It is so galling to listen to her whine for the cameras about how victimized she was by this episode. Yeah right, she had to convince the McCain campaign not to cut her loose...
She is out for revenge because this kid exposed what an unsophisticated fool she was to have a barely secured Yahoo account when she was in such a public position. She wants this kid to suffer - anyone who crosses her brings her full wrath upon themselves.
The brazen double standard she flaunts is too much to watch. Her daughter can break the law and bring "disruption" to the people whose house she helped vandalize, but God help you if you inflict any harm whatsoever to Palin's world because you will pay.
I usually like Kerry Sanders but this report sounded like he got his information directly from a Palin spokesperson and didn't bother to check the information. The internet rumors did not start as a result of this kid's actions and they were not proven to be false. I truly wonder about some of these journalists - do they not have access to the internet? How does he not know about the story surrounding Trig's birth?
Great analysis of agonizingly pathetic news reporting, Gryphen!
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Kerry Sanders: "And in part the breach hurt her credibility with John McCain and his advisers who feared hidden scandals."
Palin: “So the convincing had to take place of campaign managers that, no, just chill. There’s nothin’ in there that...that’s horrible or that would derail the campaign.”"
It sounds like Sarah may have caught hell for being stupid enough to set up a yahoo account which could be accessed with public information. Someone from the campaign may have had to spend time reviewing the email account contents.
Palin wants the kid to pay...and pay big...for her embarrassment. She can't wait to say, "See, I've been cleared of all wrongdoing. The kid was found guilty of felonies. He hated me and wanted to derail the campaign."
If Kernell is found guilty, Palin's vindication will be in her mind only, and in the mind of her most rabid fans. Nothing can take away from her stupidity.
Does any one know if the book, Game Change, mentions the incident?
COMMON STREET TRASH
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin Goes To Knoxville Court To Continue Destroying 22-Year-Old Who Found Her Yahoo! Password Two Years Ago
I thought from what I read almost two years ago that the rumors about Trig began when Sarah approached a reporter in Jan. or Feb. from the ADN to "squelch" a rumor that Bristol was pregnant. Then speculation began; McCain was announced as Republican candidate, and Palin announced she was pregnant.
ReplyDeleteThere are many emails in the database that reference email accounts, use of personal versus state emails, what can be subpoenaed. Go to the database in Crivella West to the SEARCH function and put in emails, especially looking for ones dated March 17, 2008 and March 25, 2008. An email that interests me is one dated August 19, 2008 (which would have been right before the RNC, correct?) in which Sarah (email sent from her blackberry) is irate because someone went into the Governor's mansion in Juneau and removed computers to copy the hard disks on August 4th. I don't know how she found out; and I don't think there are followups to this email. I am trying to search for some. Who would have done this? Was she being investigated, or would McCain's people have already gone there to look for anything damaging before making the announcement? What was going on?
For anyone who wants to read the Daily Kos diary about Palin's fake pregnancy.
ReplyDeletehttp://wizbangblog.com/docs/Daily-Kos-Sarah-Palin-Smear.htm
Anon at 4:11 - do you have a link to the WaPo article, I'd like to read it? I saw this clip live and was amazed at how uninformed Kerry Sanders was. I hope Gryph sent an email to MSNBC with a link to this post.
ReplyDeleteP.S. I miss Bree Palin. If you communicate with her Gryph, please tell her.
I have the feeling that the Palin children's e-mail accounts were as vunerable as their Mother's. If Mom is too dumb to handle her own account, who is advising the kid's on internet safety.
ReplyDeleteThere are so many odd angles here. Sarah allowed to talk about the trial and discuss it on a major news network, Fox, which she is an employee of is quite appaling. Imagine how David Kernell's parents felt like listening to that Greta interview. Victim Sarah is allowed to further exonerate herself and further accuse the young man, and influence jurors (even if they are not allowed to listen to news), their families, friends. Victim Sarah has free air time defending herself on a major network, not to mention she was paid to do that as well. Not only defending herself, but criticizing Kernell's legal team.
ReplyDeleteWhy does this just get swept under the rug?
The Canadian prank was far more damaging. It showed Palin's political whoring at its best and her disregard for the team.
ReplyDeleteI would play that loud outside of a venue for spewing.
But what I'd do is download the line "Governor Please hold for president Zarkowsy".
Thank you Vaughn! I missed this diary dated August 30, 2008. I'm planning on bookmarking it!
ReplyDeleteIt is an important piece of this puzzle.
Gryphen....You have said that you have the information to stop Palin. If you don't come out with that information and that young man goes to jail, you are going to have to live with that the rest of your life. If your child was on trial and could be sentenced to 50 years in jail, wouldn't you want someone that had information that could save your child to come to his/her rescue?
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