Friday, October 22, 2010

Joe Miller's militia loving security goon may have lied about reason he "arrested" journalist at town hall. Really, are any of you even remotely surprised?

Here is what the police officer who was called to the scene reported, courtesy of the Alaska Dispatch:

Sgt. Mark Rein wrote in the police report that Fulton initially asked that Hopfinger be arrested for trespassing but that Rein "saw several issues with the arrest" and declined to do that.

"Fulton told me that he needed me to complete the arrest for his insurance," Rein wrote. "I told him that I would not be taking action based on insurance.

"Fulton then said that he wanted to make an arrest for assault because Hopfinger pushed a man into a locker. I asked him to let me talk to this person. Fulton said that he didn't know who it was, but that he would find him. I gave Fulton 10 minutes to find the unknown assault victim, but none was forthcoming."

Hopfinger has maintained all along that it was Fulton who he pushed away after the "security guard" chest bumped him.  However Fulton denies this and refuses to admit that he handcuffed Hopfunger and illegally detained him (In a section of the school that Miller had NOT rented!),  either because Teabagger Joe had instructed him to stop the press from asking him questions or because Fulton lost his temper when he was shoved.

Personally I would like to ask, or have somebody else ask, Joe Miller EXACTLY what his instructions were to Fulton and his merry band of storm troopers? 

You know there is a debate this Sunday evening at the Native Heritage Center.  What a good time to have a question like that answered!

There is one question I have about this story.  What in the hell did Dropzone Bill mean when he said he "needed to complete the arrest for his insurance?" 

Number one if he had no current business license than how likely is it that he had insurance? And number two what kind of insurance policy requires that you make an arrest? 

Clearly it did not make any sense to the police officer either, but I am wondering what Fulton was thinking to use such a strange rational to convince the cop to arrest Hopfinger?

31 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:48 AM

    the 14th amendment includes:
    3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    So how the hell can Sarah or Joe get elected to anything?

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  2. Anonymous4:58 AM

    Fulton is an idiot. The Dept. of Insurance in the Commerce Div. licenses insurance and it's needed to post bail bonds (which is also allegedly one of Fulton's "businesses").

    Insurance is probably also needed to secure a security guard license as well (for liability purposes).

    Fulton is nothing but a thug and an amateur. Ask Jennifer Gillette whose car Fulton tried to "repossess" and which led to the issuance of a restraining order against him.

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  3. Anonymous5:07 AM

    Even if this dink had a license, he would never have purchased insurance - that too is a "Rule" - something these brain-dead-heads don't follow.

    Not wanting the light taken off this Airhead, but it raises the issue as for the investigation of the police report and no charges laid against the Mental Midget Fulton in that it had the appearance of the bonehead 'using a 20 excuses ball' to find the scenario acceptible to the police to get them to arrest Hopfinger.

    Another thing I find indicates Fulton is a BS'er is that being it was his mental midgets and baggers surrounding Hopfinger & to say Hopfinger had pushed someone he didn't know and could not find - OH REALLY Fulton - is that all you got. My kid has more intelligence than this Mental Midget Clown.

    We know how these Mental Midgets & Baggers are - They all flip the "victim" switch on every chance they can. The 'lamestream and/or left did us wrong again' BOO HOO!!

    Appears his Active Duty Mental Midgets already knew they were screwed knowing the videos would go public, so they were unwilling to step up to say they were pushed!

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  4. Anonymous5:15 AM

    he may have had CGL coverage even if he didn't have a business license--insurance company wouldn't check that when writing policy. Almost certainly, there's an exclusion from coverage that he was trying to avoid by having the police do the arrest. whoops.

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  5. Anonymous5:16 AM

    Perhaps Fulton used the word "insurance" not as having to fulfil some terms of an insurance policy, but as a figure of speech for "covering his back." If the officer had arrested Tony as Fulton hoped, it would have validated his knee-jerk actions.

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  6. Anonymous5:19 AM

    Could it be - I need to have an arrest made so we can discredit AD "Reporter Arrested for trespass" and/or receive a bonus from Miller?

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  7. igettit25:31 AM

    Probably in Fulton's mind, if the officer arrested H, that would "prove" that the goon squad's actions had been justified, thus removing grounds for a lawsuit by H.

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  8. Anonymous5:32 AM

    This 'assault,' was it similar in nature to the assault that was committed against fellow Dispatch reporter Jill Burke? Meaning, it was a symbolic threat of physical intimidation rather than actual violence?

    Pussies. Miller, et. al.

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  9. Anonymous5:32 AM

    Anon @ 4:48 - thank you for bringing that up. We'll add that to the list.

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  10. Anonymous5:38 AM

    Fulton, Miller and all those Valley goose-steppers have delusions of grandeur. Think they are all that, so impressed with themselves that they have all this power that we 'civilians' don't know about. These fringe libertarian, militia, Teabag nutjobs not only believe that chaos and civic disintegration is upon us (any day now) but they actually get a hard-on for it.

    LOL. Read Fulton's Valley-style badly written and articulated run-on sentence (made more famous by Sarah speak) in his forum postings, these guys can't wait to piss the markings of their territory and dare us to cross the line (the line in the sand) so that they can shoot us. If we are unarmed, even better. Big men, these guys are.

    These weekend warriors wouldn't last two weeks of boot camp, Miller couldn't even fulfill his duty to his pledged service.

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  11. Anonymous5:41 AM

    The poor schmucks under Fulton's employ, does he pay them in chickens or bullet casings? Does WAR let them ride around his cherry Hummer? The bennies must be outstanding.

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  12. Pat in MA5:41 AM

    Seriously Gryph, what the heck is in the water up there, run off from meth labs? Everywhere has their share of whackos, but AK sure seems to have plenty in the news since SP burst on the scene. I think someone should start a blog focusing on what's good up there, or maybe you can insert more moments of zen like you did the other day.

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  13. London Bridges5:47 AM

    "Insurance," as in "insuring" that the truth does not come out and that no hard questions were asked. Sarah speak, ya know - AIP code words.

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  14. KiehiKat5:51 AM

    Anon 5:32; In the video when the two goons were backing off Jill & the other guy with her, she clearly told him to get his hands off her. I think she repeated it twice. That's assault.

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  15. Anonymous5:52 AM

    I agree with igettit2.

    I imagine insurance gets difficult to obtain if you make "citizen arrest" (or whatever kind of arrests security guards make) that end up not being confirmed by the police (thus lending itself to charges of kidnapping, false arrest, assault, and probably a few more), so the security guard wanted the police to complete the arrest so
    1) that should there be a lawsuit, the insurance company couldn't assert that it was outside the scope of the employment and therefore not covered
    or
    2) to keep them off the radar screen of the insurance company for behavior that makes them risky to insure.

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  16. As an Insurance Agent I have no idea what he is talking about.
    The only thing insurance would have to with this is if the reporter sued Fulton then the arrest would provide cover, but demanding that the officer arrest the reporter for that reason is admitting that Fulton's actions fall under the liability section of his insurance.

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  17. Anonymous6:01 AM

    OT but very important.
    Spread this FAR AND WIDE:

    Don’t Let Sarah Palin Dictate the Future of NPR
    http://act2.freepress.net/letter/npr_palin

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  18. Anonymous6:05 AM

    Pat in MA said...
    I think someone should start a blog focusing on what's good up there, or maybe you can insert more moments of zen like you did the other day.
    --------------------------------
    I agree. Alaska becomes more unappealing everyday. And I live in whacked out Oklahoma. Where we have home-grown American terrorists.

    I hope Alaska can turn this around for themselves. It's a beautiful state. It just doesn't look like it's going to happen. Hope I'm wrong.

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  19. Anonymous6:19 AM

    I think his "insurance" statement regards being able to have his Errors & Ommissions policy cover any potential lawsuit for malpractice. If the officer backs up Fulton's actions, he can tell the Insurance company "see, the APD agrees with what I did". If APD does not arrent Hopfinger, and Hopfinger sues (which Insurance may or may not get involved), the Ins company will wash their hands of the actions.

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  20. Anonymous6:38 AM

    Why doesn't The Sarah Palin Legal Defense Fund (formerly of the illegal Alaska Fund Trust) pick up the tab?

    However, it's odd that she's still raising money to settle the costliest ethics investigation she filed against herself when the Republican National Committee is still writing out checks to cover her legal expenses. And we all know she made enough money at her first speaking gig as a quittingest private citizen we know to cover that ubiquitous debt.

    Why aren't either of these Joe supporters pay for his self-manufactured legal expenses?

    There are far too many correlations between Palin and Miller in the way they conduct themselves.

    In herculean efforts to avoid transparency, they generate costly legal battles. They cause trouble, piss and moan and ask you to be responsible for them.

    Pathetic. And yet there are people out there that consider it patriotic and an honor to hand it over.

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  21. Anonymous7:27 AM

    As a former Fairbanks Alaskan, I can tell you Alaska has always had the fringe loonies AIP type. Joe Vogler founder of the AIP and this other guy Frank use to be on the radio talk shows all the time complaining about the FEDS and Frank complaining about prisoners not getting conjugal(sp)visits. All the fringe loonies have come out of the closets since Sarah has come forth and made it OK. She is their leader just like Charles Manson, David Koresh and Jim Jones and the more she gets away with her crazy talk of Patriots with guns and bibles the more they will come forward....Sarah is a dangerous women, running around starting fires and just walking away with her $$$$$.

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  22. Molly7:30 AM

    SO in fact it looks like they "arrested" Hopfinger merely because they didn't like him asking JoeMiller any questions.

    I'm glad the actual cop didn't cow to this idiot pretend cop.

    It was my impression watching the video of the aftermath that the real cop thought the whole thing was kinda ridiculous, so I'm not surprised at the report.

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  23. Chenagrrl7:56 AM

    If there is a press association with nuts or a bloggers association with any nuts, it is time to test the deep pockets of DropZone Fulton and Joe Miller.

    Rules may have changed, but it is my recall that security companies had to have bonding and insurance. Usually the bonding and insurance are based on a current business license.

    If DropZone was flying without the license then he is without bonding and insurance. Could he have been referring to his homeowner's/renter's insurance?

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  24. Chenagrrl7:59 AM

    One more! I have been reading about DropZone Willy Fulton and that Nikiski nutjob he pals with.

    As my mother's berry-picking daughter (a free spirit of the wild who knew how to follow the fruit) I would warn anyone thinking about berry picking in that area to be very careful.

    My fear that the Nikiski nutjob would consider them collateral damage in the defense of the Republic.

    Joe Vogler (a family friend and neighbor) would be aghast. He just wanted to mine without restraint. But that is another issue.

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  25. Anonymous8:10 AM

    Bonding and insurance are issues that normally would be addressed in a responsible hire.

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  26. SME1319:52 AM

    He was simply afraid Tony was going to sue him and was covering his ass. Most likely Joe told him to rough him up and that he'd back him up on whatever he did. Then Joe escaped and threw Fulton under the bus (he couldn't be a witness for most of it since he wasn't there).

    If he ends up getting into much trouble over this and Joe doesn't back him up he may well turn on Joe and tell everyone just what Joe asked him to do.

    Let's not forget Fulton claims he didn't know who Tony was (which we don't believe) but that should send a message to Joe's constituents that all of them are at risk of being manhandled by these goons if they ask the wrong question.

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  27. Anonymous10:14 AM

    Does Fulton think he was in a fender bender? How bizarre.

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  28. Anonymous1:38 PM

    It is possible that an insurance policy that specializes in security businesses, needs proof that the company is in the security business, one proof would be a record of arrests.

    More lively the jerk realized that he might be the one in legal trouble and felt like a record of a police arrest of the guy he falsely arrested would cover his unlicensed ass.

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  29. Anonymous1:50 PM

    "This 'assault,' was it similar in nature to the assault that was committed against fellow Dispatch reporter Jill Burke? Meaning, it was a symbolic threat of physical intimidation rather than actual violence?"

    In legalise "assault" is the threat of violence and "battery" is the act of violence.
    So a goon getting in your space and your face, physically pressuring, and verbally threatening you, is actually "assault."
    Looking at the video both the person with the camera and the woman were "assaulted."

    Since the hall way was not restricted and they wanted to pass and were physically prohibited that also would constitute criminal tort, but I'm not sure which one.

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  30. Anonymous1:56 PM

    Maybe he needed to make an arrest in order to get paid from Miller?

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