Friday, May 20, 2011

Journalist Laura Novak interviews a neonatal specialist concerning the true age of the Trig Palin held by Chuck and Sally Heath only hours after his "birth."


LN: No reason to dance around here, Doc, what do you see?

DOC: This baby looks to be about 1-2 months old and doesn’t look premature. Premature babies don’t have a lot of subcutaneous fat. This baby is chubby. He has epicanthal folds, flat nasal bridge and a recessed chin, which are suggestive of Down syndrome. Down syndrome babies can be chubby, but if they’re premature, it’s not so prominent.

And that is the way this amazing interview starts off.  To read more, and who doesn't want to read more, head on over to  Laura's blog:

I have to say that Laura is doing an incredible job of getting new and relevant information about a mystery that I think many of us felt had been picked over pretty thoroughly.

I for one can hardly wait to read what Laura Novak, Sarah Palin pregnancy sleuth extraordinaire, uncovers for us next.  Pin and needles, that's what I'm on, pins and needles!

97 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:19 AM

    O/T: For some reason, I went to FOX this a.m. to read the transcript of Greta's interview yesterday. It is worth a quick visit, with a couple insights and not much else. It appears that she did this interview during the same sitting as she did for the 2 broadcast on Weds. And she certainly is using language that indicates she puts herself among the contenders for the GOP bid.

    It's interesting that there is no mention of the Tea Party putting up a candidate but I'm not sure that notion should be discarded, yet. If she doesn't get the nod from the Republicans, I could see her wanting to splinter off, just for a chance to lead a ticket.

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  2. Anonymous4:22 AM

    I follow your blog & I "enjoy" it in a demented kind of way. I certainly share most of your views about SP. But ENOUGH already about the baby.

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  3. Anonymous4:50 AM

    I think the body language of the 2 of them says alot. He is defiant and she is looking at him for reassurance. She used to steal books from the library so she has no problem justifying lies. These are creepy people with lots and lots to hide. I think he's a pervert.

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  4. Anonymous4:54 AM

    Well he just confirmed what most people see in that picture. That baby is about a month old. NOT 3 mos born in Jan. I've always thought Trig was born in March and transported to AK in April when he was medically cleared. I don't think anyone but Sarah and Todd know where he came from or who he is.

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  5. Anonymous4:58 AM

    I arrived at a good standard of evaluation: when things do not add up or make sense there is a liar in the midst. Then uncover who the liar is.

    Ordinarily rational truth based persons check to be certain they are not missing pertinent information. Pathalogical liars lie again and again which fosters chaos andore nonsense to untangle. Pathalogical liars divert attention projecting their constant lies is defective, destructive behavior of others. Pay attention and you will hear according to the Pathalogical personality everyone else are the liars. They act as if lying is reprehensible as they lie. They have no interest in facts for what they confabulate serves to control false impressions of themselves and polar condemnation of others. It is their pathologic entitlement to rip into and tear down others via lies. It is daily projection to play the victim that everyone else is guilty of the pathologic behaviors. Holding them accountable even for what they say is denied with outrage inciting a campaign the person who calls them out is lying and making things up.

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  6. Anonymous5:02 AM

    From the Esquire article on Todd Palin.

    "In response to the rumor that Trig was actually Bristol's baby, Sarah's father, Chuck Heath, says, "How can you prove that? Goddammit! I was there when he popped out!"

    Chuck... people are slowly PROVING that it was not Sarah's baby.

    Levi's book should be the final proof.

    The world will soon know the entire Palin family is full of LIARS and FRAUDS.

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  7. Anonymous5:38 AM

    "This baby is chubby. He has epicanthal folds, flat nasal bridge and a recessed chin, which are suggestive of Down syndrome. Down syndrome babies can be chubby, but if they’re premature, it’s not so prominent."

    Not trying to be funny, I'm being serious. Could this be the reason Bristol had her chin implant? I wondering if Bristol was on the fence of being a DS baby? She is chubby and had a recessed chin. She also has that lost look on her face.

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  8. Anonymous5:44 AM

    Anonymous said...
    I follow your blog & I "enjoy" it in a demented kind of way. I certainly share most of your views about SP. But ENOUGH already about the baby.

    4:22 AM

    Why is it important to talk about the baby? Sarah Palin always portrayed herself to be something that she is not. That is how she made her way through life. Without bloggers, this ignorant person could of been vp in 2008 and maybe president if McCain was elected and had a stroke. So it is important to keep peeling that onion and let America know what she did to Alaska and how she affected the lives of Alaskans here. All lies of Sarah Palin are very important and must be revealed.

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  9. Anonymous5:47 AM

    I've said that from the beginning - that was not a newborn preemie. I have 10 kids, I know what a newborn looks like.

    My twins were preemies, but big. 5.5 lbs and 6 lbs each.

    That baby appears to be a bruiser, 9 or 10 lbs, easy.

    Or, at least a month old.

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  10. Anonymous5:50 AM

    I don't think Bristol is borderline, but when TriG was first presented to the public, someone made a comment that it was sad that SP has ANOTHER special needs child.

    After that I paid more attention to Piper. She may be ADD or ADHD and that's why she is mostly homeschooled.

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  11. ManxMamma5:52 AM

    It's great having someone with 'new eyes' looking at this.

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  12. Anonymous5:53 AM

    To answer the question, I don't think Bristol had an actual chin implant. her chin hasn't changed. The fat around it has changed. she's had that facial fat since like 2005. Like mother like daughter. It probably would have slimmed down on its own, given that Sarah sported slim, less round pretty face by age 24.

    Now, Bristol resembles Todd even more (heart shaped face). Though she has Sarah's exact nose and other features.

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  13. Anonymous5:54 AM

    Anon @ 4:19

    Unless the Koch Brothers and/or Dick Armey got behind a teabagger candidate there would be little money to finance a run She would be lucky to be able to raise $30 million or so. It is unlikely that the big money would come in to back Palin and the teabaggers against the Republicans.

    Babygate will keep her from running.

    Bill

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  14. Anonymous5:55 AM

    "I was there when he popped out." You see, Trig was born to someone else much earlier and kept in a neonatal ward until he was strong enough to be released. They he was transferred to MatSu. Sarah was in the room where Trig got his final check up, and she was anxious to show him to the family waiting nearby. When they popped out of the room, Chuck was right there.

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  15. Anonymous6:00 AM

    I really wish people wouldn't reference Bristol and mono and crap like that. It kills the trig truther case.

    Bristol was not out of school for months. She changed schools to cool her relationship. Not uncommon and its been substantiated.

    I would like to know how/why Todd's friends knew of his newest son in feb 08?

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  16. Anonymous6:04 AM

    Anonymous said...
    "This baby is chubby. He has epicanthal folds, flat nasal bridge and a recessed chin, which are suggestive of Down syndrome. Down syndrome babies can be chubby, but if they’re premature, it’s not so prominent."

    Not trying to be funny, I'm being serious. Could this be the reason Bristol had her chin implant? I wondering if Bristol was on the fence of being a DS baby? She is chubby and had a recessed chin. She also has that lost look on her face.

    5:38 AM

    Besides having a chubby face, lost look and recessed chin, Bristol also “had” that distinct round face and then she went out all out to get rid of all those similar characteristics.

    First I would like to say God bless the volunteers you see at the malls who are there to take DS adults and children to the movies and other outings. With that said, have you noticed Bristol has to have an escort with her when she is out of Wasilla?

    When Bristol was pictured in an Arizona Walmart parking lot, Bristol had an elderly escort.

    When Bristol was at the WH correspondence dinner, she had Aunt Molly escort her.

    When Bristol would be pictured walking from a Cheesecake Factory in LA, she would have an elderly lady walk with / behind her.

    It is like she needs an escort like the adult DS people in the malls have. To those Palin protectors, I not saying Bristol has DS, I’m just stating facts and an observation that cannot be denied.

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  17. Anonymous 5:38.

    Lots of people have receding chins. Men grow beards to cover them. Some women get them fixed. Most people think it is no big deal and ignore it unless it affects their bite. Bristol is not DS.

    Even non-DS babies often have receding chins. It helps them nurse. The action of nursing then brings out the chin over time. Could be for some reason Sarah didn't breast feed Bristol or for very long.

    Bristol looked just fine the way she was.

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  18. Anonymous6:17 AM

    @4:22 - the baby story will be one of the biggest hoaxes in political history that's why it is important to prove that palin has been lying all along. she was nominated for the second highest office in this country and she has lied and lied and lied - she has lied about giving birth to a fifth child - this type of filth has to be exposed.

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  19. Anonymous6:22 AM

    alright, I am now fully in the boat that Trig is Todds

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  20. Anonymous6:22 AM

    " But ENOUGH already about the baby."

    Never enough. Whatever your motive is, it should be apparent that this has sifted itself out to be THE key story, even though there are certainly plenty others to compliment it. Every day this story is alive seems to be another day that Sarah hesitates. I agree there are more important substance stories but they don't seem to be as valuable for keeping Sarah in check.

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  21. Anonymous6:29 AM

    @4:19, but can you see Michelle Bachmann letting her take the Tea Party mantle? I can't. Say what you will about Bachmann (I can't stand her), but at least she has the guts to go on all networks and argue her crazy with anyone.

    I personally think that Palin is milking this current vacuum of candidates for attention and money but still has no intention of running. I also think that the GOP would not let her run if she wanted to - regardless of what party she ran under. She's the kiss of death and they have the dirt on her to bring her down.

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  22. Anonymous6:31 AM

    4:22, "enough already" about the fraud that Palin probably perpetrated on this country for political gain? Please.

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  23. that aint no day old 4 -5 week preemie. why this hasnt been debunked already is astounding.

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  24. Anonymous6:33 AM

    Greta Van Susteren Challenges Sarah Palin’s Thin Skin: ‘Don’t Take The Bait’

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/greta-van-susteren-challenges-sarah-palins-thin-skin-dont-take-the-bait/

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  25. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Levi has already said Trig is Sarah's baby.

    Enough is right.

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  26. Anonymous6:42 AM

    @5:53, please catch up - Bristol has admitted that she had surgery. Man, you pee-ers are slow.

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  27. Anonymous6:44 AM

    Sarah Palin Blames Lamestream Media for Gingrich’s Problems

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-blames-lamestream-media-for-gingrich%e2%80%99s-problems

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  28. Anonymous6:47 AM

    @6:34, so you guys will use Levi when he's convenient?! Unreal. I thought that he was Satan's spawn! My, my, you people are a special kind of crazy.

    It's been proved that Levi will say what he's told to and also to say what he wants. His word is not reliable, but he's young. Can't wait to see his book. I'm sure you dipshits are pissing your pants about it.

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  29. Anonymous6:48 AM

    "enough about the baby"...???

    Well top o' the mornin' to ya, Sarah. I see you're havin' a little Gryphen with your Bailey's this morning.


    Seriously, though- I'm quite put off by Munger and so many others acting as if Track is some put-upon Him-derella from the basement of Compound du Palin.

    In my opinion, Track is as shameful as his mother and he ALWAYS will be until the day he offers a heartfelt and sincere apology to the parents and children of the school district whose buses he CUT the brakelines of.

    I think people hear "school bus vandalism" and think oh, he must have spray painted TRAK IZ WAZ HERE!!!11 on the side of a couple buses.

    NO. He cut the brakelines on dozens of buses and if someone hadn't seen him doing it and reported it to police, there's a good chance Track's marriage would have included a thick pane of prison glass between he and his new bride, because he'd have been DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths abs injuries of God knows how many children.

    Including two of MY children. How do you think I feel knowing were it not for the curiosity of someone walking their dog, I could have put my children on one of those buses like lambs to the slaughter?

    Until there is a REAL apology (and by that I do not mean a statement from his mommy to People) from Track Palin, he is nothing to me but an attempted murderer who got lucky.

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  30. Anonymous6:49 AM

    I just posted a comment about Track, and posted it on the wrong thread. Doh. Sorry Gryphen & readers.

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  31. Anonymous6:53 AM

    In my opinion (not worth anything!), that baby does not look like a new born preemie. I had my own 35 week new born, and he was scrawny, red skinned, and had the puffy eyes the neonatal specialist described. I was told that the infant gains weight the last month of pregnancy. My baby had no body fat to speak of. I wish I could post a picture of how he looked. I guess if Trig had gone full term, he'd have looked like the Michelin baby when he was born.
    TripleMoon

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  32. Anonymous6:55 AM

    Chuck said "How can you prove that?" That sounds eerily like Sarah saying "I'm Trig's mother." It's all in the phrasing.

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  33. Anonymous6:58 AM

    @6:34 "enough is enough"

    I don't think so. Looks like this topic is getting some people nervous. Good! The focus on this will continue. The more people who learn about this the better.

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  34. Anonymous7:03 AM

    Sorry OT...I just found out that Frank Bailey
    will be on the View, promoting his book, on
    Tuesday 5/24...on ABC !
    (at least, that's per my local cable listing!!)

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  35. Anonymous7:17 AM

    5:53

    Are you high?

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  36. Anonymous7:18 AM

    I assume you are being ironic, when you say that Levi's words should be taken as fact.

    I would suspect that Levi was abiding by some sort of confidentiality agreement after Tripp was born, even an informal or implied one.

    In his mind, "Trig is Sarah's" could simply mean "Sarah adopted Trig".

    People saying the topic should be dropped are either very worried it can't be proven, or more likely they are very worried it can.

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  37. Anonymous7:21 AM

    Lots of saree apologists roaming the blog this morning

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  38. "Levi has already said Trig is Sarah's baby."

    Levi wouldn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

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  39. The 'nothing to see here' troll(s) all over this. Hey there you 'nothing to see here' troll(s), the easily herded sheep live at c4p. The intelligent and curious folks living here can't be herded or bamboozled. We will continue to scrutinize Sarah Palin's curious "pregnancy." Head back to c4p, your flock awaits you.

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  40. Anonymous7:25 AM

    Um, yeah...Levi said Trig is SARAH'S CHILD.

    The same way, if Levi knew me, he could say my son Jonathan is "my son".

    My son whom I adopted from Honduras and met when he was seven months and nineteen days old.



    But make no mistake...he is MY CHILD! (well, now he's my grown 5'9 adult. But still my baby :)

    My point is...any number of untold dozens would tell you Jonathan is my son. And he definitely didn't "pop out" of me- in front of creepy chuck or anyone else.

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  41. Anonymous7:28 AM

    6:48 I had no idea that's what Track did. So let me get this straight:

    A kid figures out Sarah Palin's simple-minded password and he's in jail for a year.

    But her son cuts the brake lines of a multiple school buses for children and he's free as a bird?

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  42. Anonymous7:32 AM

    No one cares about Levi. No one cares about Bristol. No one cares about Sarah. No one cares about Trig. and evidently no one cares about their country as people are still blind to the national level corruption happening RIGHT NOW. People are selfish and only care for their families and themselves. It's not a bad thing. It's natural.

    People who do not have fulfilling lives live off others.

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  43. Anonymous7:34 AM

    6:34. but how much was he paid to say that...remember Levi said a lot of things and then back tracked on some of those things.

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  44. 4:22 am - Enough about the baby????




    Sorry but the BIGGEST LIE is concerning the baby and Saree's wild ride and it is the biggest hoax in the history of politics. Why do you want to give Saree a pass, she is a proven liar, a racist, a horrible mother, and she put crosshairs on Gabby Giffords.

    Hell no, we are not giving this vile unpatriotic hate spewing racist woman a pass. She made the lie, it belongs to her. Since you want to sweep this under the carpet, then we the curious American will hold Saree accountable.


    Great job Laura Novak and Gryphen and others who are working for the TRUTH. You guys are the REAL Americans, the truth is going to shine.

    Sarah, hit the exit sign now; for once in your miserable life, put your children first.

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  45. Thank you for the link to Ms. Novak's web page. I found her article very interesting. I never comment on the Trig parentage or anything but there is more questions than there are answers.

    Ms. Novak if you read this I am sorry but I don't post on sites I don't know real well. But thank you for your precise questions to the Dr.

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  46. Anonymous7:37 AM

    As others have noted, the photos of the "grandparents" are all about them, not the baby. Sally is looking at Chuck, and Chuck is looking at the camera. Why isn't there any grandparental excitement directed to the "new" addition to the family?? If this pregnancy is proved to be a farce, Sarah's parents are "in" on this hoax, as well as CBJ.

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  47. Anonymous7:40 AM

    Levi said Trig is Sarah's baby..

    after the adoption papers were signed.. this is an accurate statement.

    Trolls are getting a wee bit uppity today.

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  48. Ferry Fey7:46 AM

    "In response to the rumor that Trig was actually Bristol's baby, Sarah's father, Chuck Heath, says, "How can you prove that? Goddammit! I was there when he popped out!" -- Esquire article on Todd Palin.

    We're reading this, not listening to this, and the full quote is not always repeated.

    What if it were more like "How can YOU prove that? Goddammit! I was there when he popped out[of Bristol]!" Meaning, sure, Chuck could prove Trig was Bristol's, but you'd never be able to because you weren't witness to it.

    Then again, it might just be Chuck being Chuck, and nothing more of significance.

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  49. Well, I see Bristol has joined the comments this morning by lying about her new plastic surgery chin, lying about the supposed mono and being out of school for so long. She does not look like Todd now after all the surgery, Todd looks normal but Bristol does not look normal.

    Looks like Gryphen and Laura Novak are causing some people to chit their pants. Just remember to keep on reloading about her lies and never retreat from exposing the TRUTH.

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  50. laprofesora7:48 AM

    With Chuckles arms folded like that it seems he's saying, "I don't want anything to do with that kid." And she looks like she's pleading with him to go along.

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  51. Anonymous7:51 AM

    6:48 don't hold your breath ever for an apology from any member of the Palin family. I think Munger was more defending the Hansons. But it's hard to reconcile a decent pair of parents allowing their decent daughter to even associate with a hoodlum like Track. As you say what he did could have had *extremely* serious consequences. Cutting the brake lines on a fleet of school buses speaks to Track being an extremely disturbed young man. That was not just disabling buses, that was putting lives at risk.

    As for Munger, he has posted that he knows CBJ but people asking him to ask her about the wild ride makes him pitch a hissy fit. He is in the position to, but he will not risk anything to, ask inconvenient questions of, somebody who can actually answer them (refusal to answer, also being an answer).

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  52. I wish Laura Novak would show the Doc a picture of "Ruffles" for an explanation of that baby. According to one family member, one of those babies pictured as Trig has FAS. Which would explain a lot. I know that you say otherwise, but I still believe that Bristol gave birth in early 2008.

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  53. Anonymous7:52 AM

    OT but I see Sarah sent out press releases about Track's wedding. She is going to use him again to grift more money from her ignorant fans in her supposed "wild run" for the presidency.

    Sarah, don't you think it is time to let your kids live their own lives and quit shoving them in front of the bus again and again, eh?


    Bristol, please pick up your baby Trig and take care of him.

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  54. Anonymous7:54 AM

    Anonymous said...
    "This baby is chubby. He has epicanthal folds, flat nasal bridge and a recessed chin, which are suggestive of Down syndrome. Down syndrome babies can be chubby, but if they’re premature, it’s not so prominent."

    Not trying to be funny, I'm being serious. Could this be the reason Bristol had her chin implant? I wondering if Bristol was on the fence of being a DS baby? She is chubby and had a recessed chin. She also has that lost look on her face.

    5:38 AM

    Have read Laura Novak interview:

    “DOC: Babies with Down syndrome have macroglossia (enlarged tongue) and you can see that clearly from this picture; that’s why the mouth looks open. They also have low muscle tone so that sometimes the mouth just opens due to gravity.”

    http://www.lauranovakauthor.com/1/post/2011/05/sarah-palin-and-the-neonatologist-part-two-pow.html

    Well after reading Laura's comment (enlarged tongue), I remember seeing Bristol on DWTS and there was a particular dance where she was pretending to play an air guitar and she stuck her tongue out and it was huge! I mean it was HUGE! When I first saw Bristol's tongue stick out of her mouth I was shocked and then I wondered maybe that is why Bristol is so popular with the boys in Wasilla. If you think I'm lying check it out yourselves on Youtube. I could be wrong, but I believe it was the dance when she was dressed gothic with perm style hair. I could be wrong about the clothes, but whatever the dance or clothes was, she was playing an air guitar. I still can't believe it, it was HUGE! I'm guessing with all her money and insecurity, tongue reduction surgery is on Bristol's To Do List.

    Huge tongue
    Round face
    Lost look
    Recessed chin
    Chubby face
    Has to be escorted

    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..... oh well, that's what plastic surgery is for.

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  55. Anonymous7:55 AM

    6:00 am--"Bristol was not out of school for months. She changed schools to cool her relationship. Not uncommon and its been substantiated."

    No, it's not common to change schools to "cool a relationship." Not common to change cities, not common to go live with another family. What is the substantiation you mention?

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  56. Anonymous7:56 AM

    Check out the faces on this woman! From her recent interview with Greta...the hate just oozes through every shot.

    http://palingates.blogspot.com/2011/05/sarah-palins-political-record-will-be.html

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  57. Anonymous7:57 AM

    "I follow your blog & I "enjoy" it in a demented kind of way. I certainly share most of your views about SP. But ENOUGH already about the baby."

    4:22 AM,

    But the stuff about the baby is the best part. That's one of the reasons, I, including many others like to come to this blog. I am convinced that $arah Palin did not give birth to that child.

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  58. Anonymous8:01 AM

    My children are my children too. Does not mean I gave birth to them.

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  59. TruthSeeker8:02 AM

    Anonymous @ 4:22 am said...
    "But ENOUGH already about the baby."

    Okay then, let's talk about Palin's Wild Ride instead. I do believe that Sarah has discovered the miraculous method of having your premature, high-risk baby be born looking like a healthy one-month old, all in 3 easy steps:

    1. When your water breaks, avoid all hospitals that have an NICU. Instead give a speech so that "big laughs" can assist you through those "big contractions".

    2. After the speech, hop on an airplane and fly at least 10 hours, preferably with a layover somewheres.

    3. Once your plane lands, have your hubby drive you, late at night and on winter roads, to a small hospital that is not equipped to handle high-risk births ~ and have your baby there!

    See, that's all it takes to have your premature, high-risk baby be born looking like a healthy one-month old. Go on a Wild Ride. Right Sarah?

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  60. Anonymous8:10 AM

    If I see Sarah Palin after this weekends rapture, does that mean God didn't take me and I'm stuck in Hell with the Palins?

    That's not fair, that's Double Jeopardy, I'm being tried twice for the same crime! Who can I complain to?

    That's like two life sentences with no chance of parole!

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  61. Anonymous8:14 AM

    Levi has already said Trig is Sarah's baby.

    Enough is right.

    6:34 AM


    no he didn't. He was confused when asked and said "as far as he knows".

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  62. Anonymous8:21 AM

    Enough with "Bristol was on the fence of being a DS baby"! That is so ignorant. You either have an extra chromosome or you don't. It's not like ADD or even Autism where a subjective diagnosis can be made.

    Carrie

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  63. Anonymous8:23 AM

    6:48/6:49, Don't apologize. I didn't know the full extent of Track's vandalism. He could have caused the deaths of scores of children. How could Phil Munger excuse such a craven act? You are right, he should not get a pass. Your comment reminds everyone what depraved monsters the entire Palin klan is and should be posted on every thread.

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  64. Anjaak8:25 AM

    That baby looks like my 10 pound baby who gestated for 41 weeks.

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  65. Anonymous8:41 AM

    The Heaths' body language is telling. Neither is looking proudly and lovingly at their new grand child (or great grand child). Chuck looks like he swallowed a canary, and Sally is looking someplace over there.

    Now let's have Laura's doctor friend look at the pictures of Triggy Bear and make the same evaluation. Let the doctor tell us whether Triggy Bear and Pink Plump Trig posing with the Heaths are the same kid.

    For the record: Sarah IS Trig's mother, now.The question is who gave birth to Trig, when and where?

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  66. Anonymous8:42 AM

    "Levi has already said Trig is Sarah's baby."

    Enough is right.


    Anon 6:34 AM,

    Who cares what Levi Johnston says? Levi Johnston hasn't been the most reliable, and consistant storyteller, from the very beginning. He has said things about the Palins, only to turn around and deny it, later. He'll tell people he has "information" about $arah Palin that could destroy her, and then say, "But, I'm not going to say anything." I take what he says with a grain of salt.

    Levi Johnston said HE was at the hospital when Trig Palin was born. Why would HE be there? Why would the "mother's" daughter's boyfriend be there? It sounds like Chuck "I was there when he popped out" Heath. This story is not going away, so get real, and deal!

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  67. Anonymous8:54 AM

    One thing for sure is that this picture on this blog is not the same as the pictures on Laura's blog. Sally's hand is missing in those pictures.

    Pins and needles? Well, maybe mildly curious enough to read this and waste some more time on it.

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  68. Anonymous8:57 AM

    Well, I hope Laura Novak moves to the next phase - triggie bear photos comments from the neo-natalist.

    Is it the same baby? What about the ears? Fast forward to 2008 convention. Same baby? Same ears?

    And if the neo-natalist can comment on Bristol Palin's bolster bust at the 2008 convention, I'd be really interested to hear that.

    You are going along great, Laura, don't stop now.

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  69. Gryphen - A lot of people may start Googling for info on the fake pregnancy now that the Dunn and Bailey books have brought up the subject. You may want to check your tags or whatever it is that helps bring up your blog on Google searches. I tried a few searches and didn't see anything on the first few pages.

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  70. Anon 8:54 - re Sally's hand: Same baby, different photos. Both photos are screen captures from the KTUU news report.

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  71. Anonymous9:21 AM

    8:21AM Believe it or not, there are mosaic Down Syndrome cases:
    http://www.mosaicdownsyndrome.com/faqs.htm

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  72. Anonymous9:21 AM

    TruthSeeker said...
    Anonymous @ 4:22 am said...
    "But ENOUGH already about the baby."

    Okay then, let's talk about Palin's Wild Ride instead. I do believe that Sarah has discovered the miraculous method of having your premature, high-risk baby be born looking like a healthy one-month old, all in 3 easy steps:

    1. When your water breaks, avoid all hospitals that have an NICU. Instead give a speech so that "big laughs" can assist you through those "big contractions".

    2. After the speech, hop on an airplane and fly at least 10 hours, preferably with a layover somewheres.

    3. Once your plane lands, have your hubby drive you, late at night and on winter roads, to a small hospital that is not equipped to handle high-risk births ~ and have your baby there!

    See, that's all it takes to have your premature, high-risk baby be born looking like a healthy one-month old. Go on a Wild Ride. Right Sarah?

    8:02 AM

    It is said she was giving a speech in Texas and cut it short to catch a flight home because she leaked fluid. I read she did not reschedule and take an earlier flight. She took the flight home that was originally scheduled. So can somebody explain that to me? Something does no seem right.

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  73. Anonymous9:22 AM

    Why would Levi disclaim Saree being Trig's mom? That would leave him on the hook for paying for a second kid, and a special needs kid at that. Plus he'd have to endure the ribbing from his friends about having defective juice. He won't ever acknowledge anything other than Saree's tall tale

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  74. Anonymous9:25 AM

    Anonymous said...
    6:48/6:49, Don't apologize. I didn't know the full extent of Track's vandalism. He could have caused the deaths of scores of children. How could Phil Munger excuse such a craven act? You are right, he should not get a pass. Your comment reminds everyone what depraved monsters the entire Palin klan is and should be posted on every thread.

    8:23 AM

    Track needs to make a public apology for nearly killing kids in our community to get my sympathy. Otherwise he is another Palin with ghosts in the closet. I could care less about what Phil Munger said.

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  75. Anonymous@6:48.

    We talk about the school bus vandalism here as if it were rumor because I don't think the newspaper or anywhere else officially put Track's name with the incident.

    Thank you for explaining it more. Can you direct us to any source for the info that we can cite? O/w it is still like Sarah's Two-Bull: several anonymous commenters know it but can't go on the record.

    You're right that Track should apologize. But he was a juvenile and there's no indication he is still into vandalism or acting out.

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  76. Anonymous9:49 AM

    Dude, no one is a credible witness. EVeryone has lied. On the record, Sarah has changed the birth place, Bristol has called Trig her brother, Levi has said point blank Trig isn't BRistols, Levi has said point blank Trig is Sarah's baby, then added, "as far as I know"

    Levi knows jack about Trig. All he can do is say Sarah didn't appear pregnant. Thats all anyone can DO. That's why this is hard to prove.

    And btw, if a politicians kid committed vandalism of school buses, said politician would not be where Sarah is today. Give up THAT story. It is a lie. We know nothing about Track. Don't make shit up to add to the already overflowing pile of bullshit.

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  77. The bus incident, which I will correct every time I see it, was a group of 4 boys deflating tires, breaking mirrors, and unplugging the block heaters in the dead of winter. This was NOT a case of brake lines being cut!!!!!

    School had to be cancelled for a day because the buses wouldn't start.

    Just a prank? Hardly. But attempted murder? That's a bit hyperbolic, and untrue.

    See the Frontiersman article here:

    http://frontiersman.com/articles/2005/12/06/news/news2.txt

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  78. And no, person who wrote at 4:22:

    It is NOT ever going to be enough about the baby--and it's not about the baby, and never has been; it's about SARAH.

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  79. Anonymous9:54 AM

    Anonymous said...

    I don't think Bristol is borderline, but when TriG was first presented to the public, someone made a comment that it was sad that SP has ANOTHER special needs child.

    After that I paid more attention to Piper. She may be ADD or ADHD and that's why she is mostly homeschooled.

    5:50 AM

    Piper was being home schooled because Sarah would lay in her bed eating Taco Bell Crunch wraps while drinking Diet Dr Pepper. The Palin kids had to fend for themselves.

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  80. Anonymous10:00 AM

    With Chuckles arms folded like that it seems he's saying, "I don't want anything to do with that kid." And she looks like she's pleading with him to go along.

    7:48 AM


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    I see it differently. She looks SHOCKED that he just said THIS IS the baby.....

    That baby could have been born to another Heath much earlier. Wasn't Sarah's sisters pregnant at the 2007 x-mas photo shoot?

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  81. Anonymous10:02 AM

    Bristol was not out of school for months.

    she was out of school from October until February. That's not DAYS.

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  82. Anonymous10:04 AM

    Chuck Heath looks like a malevolent elf.

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  83. Anonymous10:05 AM

    Excuse Track????????? Remember these?

    School buses disabled - $$$$ to repair - school days missed

    Trooper Wooten harassed because HIS territory included the school district & he needed charges brought against the vandals - got to stop him from exposing Track for what he did - maybe it worked with favorable outcome for Track?

    Monegan fired because he wouldn't fire Wooten

    Track's "buddies" charged with crimes to school property, covered for Track whose apparently not on the "exposed" list

    Track off to Michigan to live senior year 'til age 18 & can go to military (most probably to avoid incarceration) -

    Jeremy Morlock is Track's high school buddy, Bristol's close friend's brother, charged with vicious "trophy" murders of young, unwary Afghanistan citizens where Morlock was in military

    Drugs, violence etc. checker Track's past - he gets show cased for "serving time" in the military so he didn't have to serve in civilian jail, most likely.

    Save your sympathy for those who deserve consideration (think Gabby Giffords or Morlock's military murders whose victim's "souvenir" fingers Morlock collected) and stop being charitable to those liars and undocumented criminals fleecing, destroying and costing us both economically and emotionally - .

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  84. Down Syndrome, btw, can be of the classic type, or can be a mosaic type. In the mosaic type, the cells are affected after fertilization, and don't affect all the cells of the body, and the percentage of cells affected can vary widely. Physical findings and developmental delays are also variable. So, in effect, there *can* be a type of Down Syndrome that may not be as severe.

    Also (in perusing WIKI) I discovered that Down Syndrome can also be caused if one of the parents--who is normal phenotypically--has what's called a "Robertsonian translocation", where part of their chromosome 21 is attached to a different chromosome, such that when fertilization occurs, an extra chromosome 21 can be made in error due to the mislocation. This cause of DS is NOT age dependent.

    So, given that there are several cases of DS in the Palin family other than Trig, might they be a family that has this Robertsonian translocation? That would be interesting to know.

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  85. Virginia Voter10:21 AM

    As a few others have posted, I would love to see the doctor compare this Trig with the Triggy bear kitchen photos, since we have dated these thru Mercede.

    A little O/T, but bigger picture re: Sarah Palin's interview last night with Greta got me thinking what an absolute maniac she is. Sarah hit the lottery in 2008, and has made an unbelieveable amount of money, enough to set up her and her family for a lifetime. Why would she throw that all away on a presidential run, which will no doubt ruin her?

    Yesterday I went to my best friend's college graduation....she and I are the same age, 43, it has taken her over 10 years part time and full time to get her BA in elementary education. She is now attending grad school with the help of her parents, so she can teach in two years. I heard many inspring stoies at the ceremony, and it got me thinking that Sarah has such a tremendous opportunity to make a difference in her children's lives, but she is too stupid or ignorant to do it. The Palins can afford top notch private schools and tutors for Willow and Piper, send Bristol and Track to any university in the country, and provide Trig the most innovative and intense DS therapy. They can take their kids around the world if they wanted to, or even set Track up with a business. I get sad for those kids just thinking about it.

    Instead, they are pimping them out to tabloids, and starring on reality shows, and being raised by her sisters. Pathetic, really.

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  86. Anonymous11:03 AM

    Just to clear up this issue, Track wasn't involved in the cutting of the bus brakelines (that happened in Chugiak/Eagle River) but he was part of the group that unplugged the engine block heaters and let the air out of the tires of Valley buses.

    No form of vandalism is okay, but in order for us to keep our ducks in a row and not give the 'bots any ammo to strike back, we should keep our stories straight.

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  87. Anonymous11:25 AM

    Molly, Anon@6:48 appears to have been a parent at the school..Do you think it is possible the newspaper didn't have all the details? Maybe withheld by the District in the same way that Track's culpability was withheld?

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  88. Anonymous11:29 AM

    Anonymous said...
    Enough with "Bristol was on the fence of being a DS baby"! That is so ignorant. You either have an extra chromosome or you don't. It's not like ADD or even Autism where a subjective diagnosis can be made.

    Carrie

    8:21 AM
    Not quite Carrie
    what about mosaicism. Look up Mosaic Downs

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  89. Anonymous12:15 PM

    We talk about the school bus vandalism here as if it were rumor because I don't think the newspaper or anywhere else officially put Track's name with the incident.


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    an AK trooper leaked that Track was involved with the vandalism. His name was not listed because he was a minor at the time.

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  90. Lord Love a Duck! Bristol does not have DS or Mosaicism. DS does not include a huge tongue, they have small mouths, a lost look is not a symptom, neither is a "recessed chin". Bristol never had a recessed chin to begin with. She also does not have small low sitting ears, nor the eye or nose features of DS. Stop with the delusional uninformed crap. There is plenty to discuss which is actually based in fact and reality around the Palins. Her problems will all come from being raised in a dysfunctional family with most likely chemical dependency issues. These can all be overcome with education and hard work. She was the caretaker in the family, so she missed some of the essential stages for growing up. She will have to go through them as an adult and without strong assistance she may end up in trouble or with problems. It can be done however and her being aware of the issue would help her a lot. Track was young when he vandalized the buses, kids do stupid things, especially the ones with addiction issues. Lots of people get into trouble when young and then go on to live extraordinary lives. Give him a break. Yea, it was wrong he was not treated like others would have been in that situation, but he did not engineer that scenario. Those who did engineer it should be held accountable, but they never will, Alaska is corrupt to the core.

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  91. Anonymous4:03 PM

    Take a look at the body language of the supposed "happpy" grandparents. His arms are crossed which is-I don't want to have anything to do with this... And she's looking at him with a grim non-smiling face. Both are definitely uncomfortable with the situation!

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  92. Anonymous5:25 PM

    Celia Harrison said...

    Track was young when he vandalized the buses, kids do stupid things, especially the ones with addiction issues. Lots of people get into trouble when young and then go on to live extraordinary lives. Give him a break. Yea, it was wrong he was not treated like others would have been in that situation, but he did not engineer that scenario. Those who did engineer it should be held accountable, but they never will, Alaska is corrupt to the core.

    3:47 PM

    How young was Track when he vandalized public school buses? Was Track 5 or 6, maybe he was 8? To me that's young, but if he was sent to live in another state and had to join the military for a for a very short, then he was not young.

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  93. Anonymous5:38 PM

    I can see a family having one or two bad seeds - delinquents , how can anybody explain the number of bad seeds the Palin Christian Family has?

    Anybody... Anybody?

    I know kids will be kids, but damn!

    Just imagine if Sarah was not the governor or mayor, those Palin kids would have criminal records up the kazoo.

    Still waiting for an explanation how one family, the Palins, produced so many bad seeds. Genetics?

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  94. Anonymous6:48 PM

    Give moi several double-sided Q-tips and open palinMouths... I'll give you answers and a Special Maury Povich Show! (the meth edition)

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  95. Anonymous7:50 PM

    Without reading the other comments, I must say that Laura's approach to this entire matter is of high journalistic standards. She provides just enough of the details at the beginning, and lets the expert use his vast knowledge to interpret what the photos show.
    Excellent work, and a great asset to all the blogs on this topic.

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  96. Well, if the doc's numbers are correct, Palin would have announced she was pregnant when premie Trig was already born, then spent a month or two faking it, then announce the now 2 month old Trig had been born "premature".

    In which case it could very well be Bristol's and her getting pregnant again so soon after Trig's birth wouldn't explain it away. But it would indicate that Bristol and Palin used Levi to hide Bristol's first pregnancy with a second one.

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  97. Laura Novak9:42 AM

    Why thank you, Anon 7:50. And thank YOU, Gryphen, for your kind words. If anyone has a fire in the belly, it's you!

    I'm dancing as fast as I can with the DOC and other experts. We'll keep at it. Meantime, tips are welcome:

    LaNovakAuthor@yahoo.com

    Many thanks again, Laura

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