Now before I start getting complaints just let me say that, yes I am aware that preschoolers are far more respectful of each other, and that they demonstrate higher functioning social skills than either Perry or Romney, but it was just the best term I could come up with that seemed to fit the pathetic cry-baby antics I was watching.
Though to be fair I thought that Mitt won that exchange even though he did not respect little Rickie's personal space. At least he tried to use his inside voice, and did tell an adult (Anderson Cooper) that Perry was acting like a butthead.
(H/T to Mediaite.)
I agree G. I think that Mitt came out ahead in that exchange.
ReplyDeleteEver since Palin appeared on the national scene, I have watched Republicans with the sound off. Body language is very telling and I already know what they are saying anyhow. Romney won this exchange on body language alone: he looks calm and condescending and Perry looks nervous and immature. The pat on the shoulder was a brilliant putdown, for a Republican.
ReplyDeleteWell Romney scored one from me with his "If you're going to become president you need to learn to let people speak..."
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Well, that was fun. If I didn't love Obama so much, I think based on that exchange, I would vote for Romney, that is; of course, if I were a disgusting republican.
ReplyDelete'twas a beautiful thing. Somewhere David Axelrod is laughing his ass off!
ReplyDeleteP.Rick's a bully, from some of the stuff I've read on him. He'll get in your face and try to intimidate you if you don't agree with him. It was beyond awesome to see Romney do exactly what Perry does to others.
ReplyDeleteAnd I didn't notice this till that little exchange of theirs, Romney is actually taller than Perry. That must REALLY get Perry's goat.
I guarantee you, Rick Perry has had undocumented workers doing slave work at slave wages through out his life. Other than the average Texan - anyone with the least bit of money to spare has employed them instead of a citizen.
ReplyDeleteMy sister and her husband - a nurse at Methodist Hospital and an engineer at KBR talked down incessantly against dirty, Mexicans - but less 5 years ago had two undocumented workers cleaning their house - thought they were overpaying them $20.00 each for 6-7 hours of work apiece!
This is how it is in TX. This couple make almost $500,00 a year and they thought they were "generous".
Oh, another thing - though the young girls were very nice, honest, and good workers, my sister - whose mother is Japanese, poor, and used to clean houses 50 years ago for $20.00 for 2-3 hours (note the difference in locales - in VT), was so prejudiced she couldn't stand to be around them and would spend the time goung to Walmart, the Dollar Store and routinely spend $300 just to keep herself entertained, away from the brown people - buying absolutely nothing but junk from China!
Don't get me wrong - despite that, I love my sister and don't hate my BIL - I learned to accept the fact that this is the normal cognitive dissonance that passes for American values in TX.
I used to try to help her see she was no better than all the haters who dissed HER and threatened our mother way back in the day - but, like I said - she gets up in the morning and sees a white face in the mirror!
They hate blacks,poor people, anyone living in apartments, too -even though both of them grew up dirt poor! They want to pretend they did it ALL themselves, too!
I can not comprehend how anyone thinks that any person in that debate could be President of our great country. President Obama makes me proud to be an American. I would be ashamed of any of the GOP contenders. What a bunch of idiots.
ReplyDeletethis probably belongs on a different post, but where has Scarah's accent gone?
ReplyDeleteIt should be noted (and the media isn't reporting it) that Perry put his hand on Romney in a prior debate. I've watched all the debates and it is verifiable. Think it was 'pay back' time when Romney did it!!!
ReplyDeleteIt think Perry is horrible...I get a kick out of watching how he walks and stands - chest out - always! Little man's syndrome?
Now you see why parents like Sarah relate that debate to squabbling siblings. Though ALL debates are generally like this when men are involved.
ReplyDeleteWhere in the world does Rick get those giant collared white shirts? I have never seen anyone wear a collar that big in this century.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, just to correct you, these clowns were more Real Housewives of NJ than preschool. All that was missing was a table full of pasta and wine.
An article some might find interesting.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.opednews.com/articles/Republicans-United-Against-by-Al-Rodbell-111019-33.html
Marleycat @12:46 PM said...
ReplyDeleteI guarantee you, Rick Perry has had undocumented workers doing slave work at slave wages through out his life. Other than the average Texan - anyone with the least bit of money to spare has employed them instead of a citizen.
My sister and her husband - a nurse at Methodist Hospital and an engineer at KBR talked down incessantly against dirty, Mexicans - but less 5 years ago had two undocumented workers cleaning their house - thought they were overpaying them $20.00 each for 6-7 hours of work apiece!
This is how it is in TX. This couple make almost $500,000 a year and they thought they were "generous".
Yep. Even in the legislature, which passed a law to make it a crime to hire illegals made an exemption for lawn care services and house cleaning. Why? Because just about everyone IN the legislature had hired illegals or hired a company that hired undocumented workers to work for them.
I'll bet you a year's worth of salary that good ole' Rick Perry's ranch that he's renting for $10K/mo on the tax payer's dime has undocumented workers doing the lawn care and house cleaning.
Anonymous @1:09 PM said...
It should be noted (and the media isn't reporting it) that Perry put his hand on Romney in a prior debate. I've watched all the debates and it is verifiable. Think it was 'pay back' time when Romney did it!!
Really? I didn't know that. It makes what Romney did even more awesome.
Mitt Romney only won that exchange, because is Rick Perry is a moron. Some people on the Left and Right think that Mitt Romney came acted like the condescending asshole he is. A more skilled debater could have handled Mitt Romney.
ReplyDeletePerry thinks that since the school failure,
ReplyDeleteplane crashing, business ruining Bush was awarded the White House for being a silver spoon fed moron, he is just
as entitled. Sorry, little Rickie, we aren't going for lies this time around. Not when we have the grace, intelligence, and caring President already working for us. Go back and watch Texas burn.
I don't see what's so great about Mitt Romney. He's still a weak candidate. He's been given a free-ride from the media, and his idiot opponents. Rick Perry and the rest of the gang are too dumb to attack Mitt Romney in an effective way. All they ever do is make a weak attempt to attack his record as a flip-flopper. Then Mitt Romney simply denies the charge, with some rehearsed, bullshit talking points. Instead of his opponents coming back with facts and numbers, all they ever come back with is, "Yes you did." Mitt Romney: "No, I didn't." Without anyone countering anything he says.
ReplyDeleteThey don't even know how to attack him from different angles, and take an issue and turn it against him, which should be easy against a flip-flopper like him. Plus, he does most of the talking, because their vocabularies are so limited. Their campaigns don't even really seem to do their research and their homework against him.
Lonely girl in that class was heard callin Anderson, Anderson and often sen raising her hands. Lol
ReplyDeleteMitt Romney's got a temper. He started to get hot under the collar in last weeks' debate, but held it in more. This time he let more of his temper show. I saw a video of Mitt Romney on Lawrence O'donnell's show a few weeks ago, where he started to lose his temper with this woman, and he looked like he was ready to jump her. Mitt Romney doesn't like to be challenged, and he doesn't like his lies being challenged with facts.
ReplyDeleteRick Perry is a crook. I have family in Texas and they hate him. Gas wells have sprung up all over Texas some in peoples back yards. This is what he would o to the rest of the US. I hated Bush, but Perry is worse.
ReplyDeleteWow, Mitt cleaned Perry's clock! That was awesome! Too bad Mittens is working so diligently to distance himself from the good things he's done, otherwise we might almost have an actual choice to make in 2012...
ReplyDeleteBut I'm sure in the end, the Teatards will stick the Republicants with a crazy person as their nominee instead.
A few people here seem to be Romney-bots. If you think that wealthy slime-ball Mitt Romney is so "awesome" because of what he did to that other slime-ball Rick Perry, maybe you should volunteer and join Mitt Romney's campaign since you think "Multiple Choice Mitt" is a progressive, now.
ReplyDeleteOh man, that was hard to watch. And, what is up with the screaming crowd? "Yeeha! Don't know what hell they talkin' 'bout, but Romney jus smacked Perry a gud un!" Are they serving paint chips on the snack plates? Kool-Aid jello shots?
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ReplyDelete"Too bad Mittens is working so diligently to distance himself from the good things he's done, otherwise we might almost have an actual choice to make in 2012..."
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Mitt Romney has done more bad than good.
1:23, yep I could see Rick flipping that table like Teresa did.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @3:00 PM said...
ReplyDeleteA few people here seem to be Romney-bots. If you think that wealthy slime-ball Mitt Romney is so "awesome" because of what he did to that other slime-ball Rick Perry, maybe you should volunteer and join Mitt Romney's campaign since you think "Multiple Choice Mitt" is a progressive, now.
Yeah, I'm I real Romney-bot. Can't wait till he's president and fix up this country
(/sarcasm)
Yanno, one can think what Romney did to take down Perry was awesome, but that doesn't mean we want this guy to be anywhere near the white house.
As a Canadian, I have no real skin the game (perhaps a little due the neighbourly influence of the US), but IMHO, John Huntsman looks to be the more intelligent GOP candidate just by sitting this one out. I bet he's glad he did. From what I've seen, heard, and read thus far, Huntsman actually comes across as the most noteworthy compared to the rest of the bunch.
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ReplyDelete"I don't see what's so great about Mitt Romney."
He's not nearly as batshit crazy as the rest of them.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement, I know, and I don't really want him anywhere near the White House, but the alternatives are just too frightening to contemplate. With all the games the right is playing with voting laws, and the easily hackable voting machines in many of the red states, I would prefer a Republican candidate who's not completely insane, just in case they manage to steal the election again.
“I suggest that if you want to become president of the United States, you’ve got to let both people speak,” he said. “So first, let me speak.”
ReplyDeleteMr. Romney looked a little like a country club tennis player dealing with a nonmember guest who gauchely calls a ball in that was obviously out.
Read the whole NYT review on last night's debate here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/19/us/politics/republican-debates-resemble-a-reality-show.html?_r=2&hpw
Sheesh
Poor Michele, she just can't get any attention in this debate...Anderson....ANDERSON,pay attention to ME! LOL!
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Marleycat, I wouldn't blame you if you did hate your sister and BIL. Jeez, I think I do...especially because I know all about Texan views on Hispanics. Been here most of my life (and I'm no spring chicken). However, I call what they think and do "being an asshole." And "criminally exploitative." Cognitive dissonance is too generous.
ReplyDeleteThe Republican contenders aren’t a diverse cross-section, by any means, but they are just different enough — the Mormon, the Catholic, the Texan, the doctor, the tax lawyer, the conservative wonk and the pizza salesman — to stir up drama.
ReplyDeleteAnd there was plenty of hyped-up heat. Newt Gingrich was haughty and dismissive and Rick Santorum combative, while Mr. Perry, trying to show more aggression to make up for his hesitations in past debates, was downright hostile. Even Mr. Romney lost a little of his bonhomie, calling Mr. Perry “testy.”
“I suggest that if you want to become president of the United States, you’ve got to let both people speak,” he said. “So first, let me speak.”
Mr. Romney looked a little like a country club tennis player dealing with a nonmember guest who gauchely calls a ball in that was obviously out.
Debates, like reality shows, are cheap to produce. Ratings keep going up, so cable networks keep commissioning more: there were only 3 Republican primary debates in 2000; this time around, 22 are scheduled. This is low-budget programming with showy frills. The introduction to the Las Vegas debate — with music, mountains, majesty and a montage of gambling images — was a cheesy blend of Caesars Palace and “Sunday Night Football.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/19/us/politics/republican-debates-resemble-a-reality-show.html?_r=3&hpw
Mitt Romney Will Physically Explode Any Moment Now
ReplyDeleteSo last night: greatest debate ever, right? The vicious babies on stage, God bless , were so busy sniping at each other about who had more Mexicans in their front yards that Anderson Cooper barely had any time to make the cheesy situational jokes that is CNN's calling card. Hoo boy, what a madcap muckfest. Then again, we're kind of worried about Mitt Romney, whose head and a good chunk of his upper torso will soon disappear in a horrific explosion.
Let's begin by remembering a Mittens Classic. Fellow dogged Romney mockers will recall a story from February, 2010, when Mitt Romney and wife Ann were flying back from the Vancouver Olympics. Mitt got into a bit of an scuffle before the plane took off. A man sitting in front of them reclined his chair, leading Romney to request that he move it up for takeoff. The guy got pissed off and supposedly "threatened violence" at Romney before being escorted off the plane.
The image of Mitt Romney reminding strangers on an airplane to put their seats in an upright position before takeoff led me to spend a day or so thinking up dumb jokes about what Mitt Romney's like on an airplane — lecturing fellow passengers for not wearing blue blazers and khakis, as is proper flying attire; complaining to flight attendants about the several instances of the word "darn" in the in-flight PG film; standing by the restroom with a stopwatch to ensure that no one took longer than 90 seconds; and so on. A louder, angrier, lecturing shithead-ier version of Romney's voice was the key to making these dumb jokes passable. And that's the *exact* voice that Mitt Romney unveiled for the first time in real life last night, while yelling at Rick Perry, between 1:00 and 1:10 in the above clip. It was a debate miracle!
And yet such an unorthodox and troublesome sign from the usually sturdy Romney. By the time of the Perry exchange, Romney had just finished up swatting down Rick Santorum, too, with a slightly milder version of that angry voice, after Santorum was accusing Romney of papering over past statements in which he'd said he'd like to see the health care model he established in Massachusetts extended to the rest of the country. Santorum made a fine point, but one that Romney will still usually escape by delivering an unrelated canned dodge. And yet here he was getting all hot and bothered in an anxious, whiny way that is not unlike Rick Santorum's baseline temperament.
Mitt Romney had no reason to purposefully lose his mind and it might do him some harm. The clip with Perry especially looks uglier and uglier for Romney with each additional viewing. So...
http://gawker.com/5851404/mitt-romney-will-physically-explode-any-moment-now
Romney's claim that he will use E-Verify to curb the employment opportunities for undocumented persons is pure showboating because E-Verify already exists. It was established in 1997 during the Clinton Administration. It's a free federal program! The problem is that many states and businesses don't/won't use it.
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Hey Gryphen. I've been lurking for a while, but this is my 1st post:
ReplyDeleteThe thing that I found the most disturbing after watching this clip was the repeated use of the term "illegals." What a way to dehumanize a group of people.
I don't care how many kudos you guys give Romney. If this dull boring flip-flopping man is nominated, President Obama will hand him his @ss.
ReplyDeleteAl you Romney-bots in here. HE WILL NEVER win the presidency. He does not have what it takes. He has no charisma, no vision, and he changes his mind like he changes his underwear.
ReplyDeleteWhere Does Mitt Romney’s 73 Second TKO Of Rick Perry Rank Among Mike Tyson’s Quickest Fights?
ReplyDeleteThe most exciting point of Tuesday’s debate was watching Mitt Romney and Rick Perry tussle, speaking over each other when the topic of Romney’s illegal immigrant lawncare technicians came up. It included all the elements of a good brawl — a wildly-thrown suckerpunch, a Vincent Price mocking laugh from Romney, aggressive shoulder touching, one of the fighters calling out for the referee (Romney’s cry of “Anderson?”), and plenty of boos.
In its entirety, the exchange lasted 73 seconds, from the time Perry brought up Romney’s hiring of illegals to the moment Romney knocked Perry out with his, “this has been a tough couple debates for Rick,” line. The finish by Romney was quick, brutal, and somewhat unexpected, conjuring up memories of an in-his-prime Mike Tyson, who had 23 of his 50 first-round victories decided in the first three minutes. So this raised the question: did Iron Mike finish anyone off as quickly as Romney dusted off Perry? We went through Tyson’s fights from his first-round knockout of Michael Spinks in 1988 forward (most of his early professional fights were finished in the first 90 seconds), and placed Romney-Perry in its rightful place.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/where-does-mitt-romneys-73-second-tko-of-rick-perry-rank-among-mike-tysons-quickest-fights/javascript:void(0)
I agree with Melgal 8:05 pm wholeheatedly- these people are PEOPLE and to call them merely "illegals" is disgusting and dehumanizing.
ReplyDeleteBTW, why oh why does Little Rickie stand with his legs so far apart? Any psychologists out there with opinions?
Also, too- have you noticed Perry's icy smile which is more of a grimace? This is a mean and dangerously stupid man.
They are both clowns, but Mitt won this one. Perry is a bad-tempered idiot, and someone like him being in the WH with access to the red button is extremely scary!
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