Courtesy of the Frontiersman:
Steve Menard moved another step closer to making history as the first city council member to face a recall vote.
A petition asking Wasilla voters to oust the two-time councilman was turned in Monday at Wasilla City Hall about three and a half hours ahead of a 5 p.m. deadline. The petition, which has 284 signatures, says Menard’s behavior at a Sitka hotel room while on city business in August rises to the level of official misconduct in office.
If the petition has at least the required 201 valid signatures of registered city voters, it would be the first time a recall effort of a Wasilla official would be decided by an election, City Clerk Kristie Smithers said.
In 14 years as city clerk, Smithers said she hasn’t seen a recall effort make it as far as Menard’s.
The recall effort, spearheaded by the local Conservative Patriots Group, is in response to Menard’s actions while attending the summer Alaska Municipal League meetings. When he went to check out after a three-day stay at the Westmark Sitka, the hotel discovered extensive damage to his room and charged the city $350 for cleaning.
An itemized bill from the hotel to the city lists damage that included two mattresses and a chair had been urinated on, a burned mattress and vomit on the carpet. After Wasilla City Council met in a 50-minute executive session after the trip to discuss Menard’s behavior, the councilman agreed to repay the entire cost of his trip, about $1,400, and was restricted from traveling on city business in the future.
Although Menard also apologized and acknowledged a longtime problem with alcohol, that he continues as a city councilman is unacceptable, said Jennie Bettine, CEO for Conservative Patriots Group. The group hoped Menard would resign, and when he didn’t, felt compelled to act.
“We had hoped he would have been man enough to man up and say, ‘I did something wrong and the people who voted for me shouldn’t have to put up with this,’” she said after CPG first submitted its petition application. “He did not choose to do that. … He should really just resign and not put the city through this.”
By the way the Conservative Patriots Group is a local group of Teabaggers that you would normally assume would have the back of one of the Grizzled Mama's longtime family friends. I guess urinating and vomiting all over hotel rooms and charging the town for the cost is where they draw the line.
Besides being close friends of the Palins little Stevie's mother, Linda Menard, is also a State Senator, but simply does not have the influence to protect her little boy from his own stupidity and weakness.
What was that you were screeching about "pallin' around with," Queen Esther?
ReplyDeleteIt is true that Britta (soon to be a Palin) is related to the Menards? If so, how?
ReplyDeleteMaybe he could live with a family in Michigan and play hockey before joining the army. Or maybe he could follow Willow's example, and have other people pay for the damage that he caused.
ReplyDeleteMore from the famous Menards? I wonder why Sara doesn't step in? She's still running the state from behind closed doors.
ReplyDeleteA drunk Menard is still head and shoulders more functional and contributing to the Wasilla community than Sarah Palin ever was and is.
ReplyDeleteEven though she quipped that being the Chief Executive of the town wasn't "Rocket Science," she still had to hire a city manager to handle the daily machinations of small government.
Sarah, you are a bad housewife as it is, to think you are leadership material beyond your domicile (magically knocked out by the amazing Todd and his buddies) is a joke.
Steve, can't help you out here dude. Maybe this shouldn't be your calling, unless that Servant's Heart thing is the rill dill.
While that's indeed pretty shitty behavior, at least Menard didn't build a house with free materials from a sports center that was built on land the town didn't even own while he was in office.
ReplyDeleteAnd he paid Wasilla back for the trip and damages to the hotel.
What do you want to bet Quitler is behind this to draw attention away from herself for a change? Are the federal indictments ready yet?
Why do you tie everything AK related to Sarah? No one has any contrl over a person's actions accept the person him/herself.
ReplyDeleteYou are the AK paparazzi, making it nearly impossible for people to learn from their mistakes privately. If it weren't for people like you, LiLo would probably still have a good reputuation.
Let's let people live in private and not use them for your nasty propaganda campaigns.
Anon 6:52, uhhh, way to be ignorant. You truly know nothing do you. You may want to not comment about things you have no factual info on. You look foolish.
ReplyDeleteBut since you bring up home vandalism, wasilla may be the only place where the actual perpsd (3 boys) brag about getting away with throwing a huge house party. They didn't even know the event hit the internet. Now why wouldn't the cops penalize them? Idk. But it is wasilla.
Ok Allison, this is why people who don't know their subjects of interest personally shouldn't blog about them. Where in hell did you get that Britta is related to the Menards?
ReplyDeleteI thought some of gryphens vastly inaccurate posts were bad but that is just random.
Stop villainizing people everyone. Wow. The fact that you can honestly call "c4pers" stalkers yet think your actions are healthy worries me deeply.
Britta isn't married to a Menard?
ReplyDeleteSarah@7:40 is worried about us. That is so sweet. Honey, we're worried about you, too.
ReplyDeleteAggh Uncle Stevie, Don't feel too badly. You'll get some other job, or maybe our mom can finance ya for a while! It's the least she can do, given our dad..uh your bro was killed in a tragic plane accident under suspicious conditions right after he spoke to our mom about what a crappy mommy she was!
ReplyDeleteLove, your niece and nephew,
Piper and Track
Live and let live. We are responsible for our own actions. There's nothing more petty than tying Sarah Palin into this and other such instances.
ReplyDeleteYou know you'd go apeshit if an actual reputable blog with a integrity dug up every friend of Obama's and blamed him for their actions.
This is no different.
Btw, Wasilla aint got nuttin on Chicago.
It's beyond absurd and hypocritical to blame others for this man's actions. It's a mark of insanity and true hypocrisy to automatically take Cain out of the running for alleged actions that aren't even new.
ReplyDeleteWould you have insisted JFK step down? Do you call for Bill Clinton to vacate his public platform?
I didn't think democrats could sink lower. I was deeply wrong.
If Steve is Curtis, Jr's, brother, that makes him Track Palin's uncle.
ReplyDeleteAllison @ 6:40, "soon to be a Palin"?
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought they were married back in May.
Did I miss something?
Rick
Those Menards sure are fine upstanding citizens - not. The fact that it is the Conservative Patriots coming down on them is perfect karma. These people are dirty, lying, hypocrites, whose only goal in life is to get as much as they can for themselves while touting a holier than thou attitude. People like them make me sick.
ReplyDeleteI hope Wasilla is successful here, getting rid of the Menards out of governing, whether it be local, city, state or dog catcher, can only be a positive thing.
(And they saying that "you can judge the character of a person by the company they keep" holds true here.)
OT: Herman Cain is reported to be "Reassessing" his candidacy:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284321/breaking-cain-reassessing-candidacy-robert-costa
Sarah's posting comments here again. LOL.
ReplyDeleteThe state of Alaska and the city of Wasilla really needs to cleanse itself of any Palin friends and appointees in office if it ever wants to regain their self respect with America and its own citizen.
ReplyDeleteToo much crooked deals were done by Palin cronies who still work for Alaska.
How about some Alaska spring cleaning?
Allison said...
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It is true that Britta (soon to be a Palin) is related to the Menards? If so, how?
6:40 AM
How you ask? Well she is marrying Curt Menard's son Track this winter and she gave birth to Curt Menard's grandchild.
You are who you roll with, and Sarah rolls with the Menards, in and out of the sack.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteBritta isn't married to a Menard?
7:52 AM
Britta was screwed and impregnated by a Menard and is marrying Curt's son this winter paid for by SarahPac.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteLive and let live. We are responsible for our own actions. There's nothing more petty than tying Sarah Palin into this and other such instances.
You know you'd go apeshit if an actual reputable blog with a integrity dug up every friend of Obama's and blamed him for their actions.
This is no different.
Btw, Wasilla aint got nuttin on Chicago.
8:05 AM
DANG! Gov Dirty Wig...you just can't quit President Obama huh! Give your buddy Glen Rice a call...I'm sure he would love to take care of that itch you got! Pssst...he loves it when you bring the baby oil!
Blogger Allison said...
ReplyDeleteIt is true that Britta (soon to be a Palin) is related to the Menards? If so, how?
6:40 AM
she is married (or pretended to be) married to a 1/2 Menard, or will be married to a Menard spawn. Was she faking a PG to cover for Bristol's dancing delivery-
oh the wicked webs we weave, when we practice to deceive.
Sorry Britta for dragging you in to this..............
so she'd also be an Auntie to a 1/2 Menard - Piper?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteAllison @ 6:40, "soon to be a Palin"?
And I thought they were married back in May.
Did I miss something?
Rick
8:13 AM
That charade marriage in the snow was the Wasilla Hill Billies attempt to legitimize the birth of Track's kid before they actually got married. They did not want Britta to be like Bristol and give birth to a fatherless child. There is another name for Bristol's child.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteWhy do you tie everything AK related to Sarah? No one has any contrl over a person's actions accept the person him/herself.
You are the AK paparazzi, making it nearly impossible for people to learn from their mistakes privately. If it weren't for people like you, LiLo would probably still have a good reputuation.
Let's let people live in private and not use them for your nasty propaganda campaigns.
7:34 AM
WTF is a LiLo? Is that some kind of hillbilly code for something?
Um....crazy stalker lady....I think you need to get your meds tweaked....your post seem...to be...um...getting...more....let's see....BATSHIT CRAZIER! Tell Gov Dirty Wig you need to some time off to re-group and come up with a new game plan...because this shit you got going on here is just so pathetic! You making me feel sorry for ya'!
Herb Cain and Sarah Palin needs to hook up.
ReplyDeleteThose two can screw each others brains out.
*You are the AK paparazzi, making it *nearly impossible for people to *learn from their mistakes *privately. If it weren't for people *like you, LiLo would probably still *have a good reputuation.
ReplyDeleteI had to look up Lilo also too.
I think it means the nickname for Lindsey Lohan.
anonymous @ 9:06
ReplyDeleteIf there was a charade wedding, I'd be more inclined to believe it was to cover up a baby born to either Bristol or Willow.
But when is the supposed "real" wedding? And who's invited? We need pictures!
Rick
Are you saying that Palin is equivalent to Lindsay Lohan?
ReplyDeleteYes, Lilo (Lindsey Lohan) deserves to have a good reputation, what with all her drug use and probation violations. :rolleyes
He should be recalled due to his actions. He was a horrid example of a politician.
ReplyDeleteAnd, I agree - anyone connected to the Palin family should not be elected or appointed to any position in Wasilla.
Linda Menard is an interesting woman too. She is spearheading the purchase of the building in Anchorage for the Alaska Legilsature to occupy and owns a commercial building across the street from it. Sounds like she should not be connected to the deal at all since being a member of our Legislature and owning real estate nearby (is she trying to increase the value of her property by any chance?). Another one that should not be re elected next cycle.
@7:34 AM
ReplyDelete“Why do you tie everything AK related to Sarah? No one has any contrl over a person's actions accept the person him/herself.”
Pointing out that Menard is a Palin family friend is not blaming Palin for his actions. WTF is wrong with you?
“Let's let people live in private and not use them for your nasty propaganda campaigns.”
Please. Gryphen has nothing on $arah Palin’s nasty propaganda arsenal: of books, t.v. shows, Fox “news” appearances, propaganda film, and $100,000 nasty propaganda speeches, etc.
@7:37 AM
“Anon 6:52, uhhh, way to be ignorant. You truly know nothing do you. You may want to not comment about things you have no factual info on. You look foolish.”
Yeah, uhhh, next time you might want to tell that to $arah Palin the next time she accuses Michelle Obama of being a racist without any factual info. Fool.
@7:40 AM
“Ok Allison, this is why people who don't know their subjects of interest personally shouldn't blog about them.”
Then $arah Palin shouldn’t even utter the name of President Obama, and especially his wife, since she doesn’t know her favorite subjects of interest, (and slandering) personally. First tell Palin to stop villainizing everyone else.
The fact that you seem to be stalking a blogger, is even more worrisome.
@8:05 AM
“Live and let live. We are responsible for our own actions. There's nothing more petty than tying Sarah Palin into this and other such instances.”
There is nothing more petty than $arah Palin refusing to take responsibility for her own actions, and hypocritical trolls like you who try tie Barack Obama to nearly every single post.
“You know you'd go apeshit if an actual reputable blog with a integrity dug up every friend of Obama's and blamed him for their actions.”
The MSM has already done that, stupid: Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, (the terrorist Barack Obama was “palling” around with) some Kenyan reletives Barack Obama doesn’t even really know, etc.
@8:10 AM
“It's beyond absurd and hypocritical to blame others for this man's actions.”
Again, no one is blaming $arah Palin the man’s actions. What is wrong you? Crazy asshole.
“Would you have insisted JFK step down? Do you call for Bill Clinton to vacate his public platform?””
1) JFK was assassinated, and 2) the republicans almost DID force Bill Clintion out of his “public platform.” You get a giant FAIL!
Stupid republican.
@8:10 AM
ReplyDelete"Do you call for Bill Clinton to vacate his public platform?"
Of course, not. Bill Clinton no longer holds any kind of elected public office. He is a serious person, and is repected all over the world, and isn't an annoying trouble-maker.
Palin is the opposite of all those things, and she likes to pretend she is the POTUS.
to: Anon. @ 10:03 AM
ReplyDeleteGreat responses!! Loved reading them all.
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and, GinaM -- Your responses are always fun as well.
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I actually enjoyed all the responses to this post, today -- even the babbling, stupid, unknowing, etc., trolls are usually interesting, and provide LOTS OF LAUGHS for all of us -- LOL
8:05 AM
ReplyDeleteGTFOH troll. The insufferable bitch was forever calling Our President a terrorist and associating him with fake terrorists.
Bitch please.
I'm not registered to vote in Wasilla. If I was, here is what I'd say to all the Menard supporters.
ReplyDelete#1. He got drunk and apparently damaged someone's property which he was responsible for. He did so in a disgusting fashion.
#2. He denied responsibility for fixing his damages when the hotel contacted him about the damages.
#3. In telling the the hotel to bill the city for his illegal and destructive behavior Menard attempted to have the city pay his bill. The City of Wasilla did pay the bill. Then Menard reimbursed the City of Wasilla.
#4. By participating in the transaction the City was in the position of refereeing the settlement between the hotel and Menard. Did that have anything to do with the hotel apparently not billing the full cost of damages?
#5. By paying the bill and then collecting later from Menard, the City of Wasilla essentially loaned Menard the money to pay the settlement that the city had negotiated for him.
Don't be a hypocrite, Gryphen!
ReplyDeleteYou're so critical of this poor man with an apparent bladder control problem and yet you thought it was mighty cool when Keith Moon trashed a few hotel rooms in the late 60s.
So make up your mind: Keith Moon - arguably one of rock's GREATEST drummers - or this bald Prince of Wasilla doofus???
WHICH IS IT GOING TO BE???
Oh...this is the dude who got drunk and vomited and peed all over the hotel and was like..."Yeah, just bill my mom...um...the City...they'll take care of it"...I guess mom didn't "take care of it"...EPIC FAIL!
ReplyDeleteFucking hillbillies!
I have made up my mind Beldar.
ReplyDeleteKeith Moon was an iconic member of The Who. A musical genius with a flamboyant style, and a penchant for destruction.
Menard is a bed wetting momma's boy who used his connections with the Palins and his family to gain a political position that he was completely unqualified to hold.
There is a vast difference.
I loved the Who, when my older sister brought home the "tommy' album set, we just about wore it out.
ReplyDeleteso all hail Keith Moon.... et al
mr menard, ah, not today
"tommy can you hear me"
or as herbie cain sings
see me, feel me, touch me........haha
Well played, sir! Gryphen, your choice of the late, great Keith Moon is equal parts inspiring, honorable, admirable AND historically accurate!
ReplyDeleteTherefore, I withdraw my arguably somewhat perhaps slightly overwrought accusation of hypocrisy.
But know this well, Mister Fancy Pants Alaska Liberal Blogger: I'm keeping my eye on this blog. Yes, indeed, I'm keeping my eye on this blog...
(Remember, the "J" stands for JUSTICE!!! and possibly "Jerome" or "Jeremy" also, too...)
If I've read correctly, not one word from the under-educated holier-than-thou troll denying Track's biological heritage.
ReplyDeleteChannelling Arte Johnson: Very interesting.
Keith Moon and Menard were equally wrong trashing hotel rooms.
ReplyDeleteBoth out of control entitled brats.
Moon was a great drummer, and Menard is probably good at something too.
Both paid for the destruction they caused, Moon eventually with his life as may well happen to Menard.
But I can't put Moon on a pedestal any more than I can put Menard on one. Just because you have the means to wreak havoc then pay for the damages, doesn't mean you should be given a pass on the havoc you wreak. That is something one of Saddam Hussein's or Moammar Gadhafi's sons would do, just because they can. Eventually they paid for it with their lives too.
Rick
Re: Anonymous at 11:39
ReplyDelete#1 It is clear to all who know Menard that he was not alone in the room and very unlikely that he did all the damage.
#2 Despite that fact that he was not alone in the room, he did, in fact, take full responsibility on the spot and agreed to pay the hotel the full amount due.
#3 When the hotel contacted Menard later with an amount higher than he had available on him, he asked them to bill the city with full intentions of reimbursing the city upon return. It isn't current policy to charge expenses for reimbursement, but it isn't unprecedented, either. He should have stuck around to make sure it was okay with city administration, but left thinking the hotel would be paid and he would repay the city upon his return. He was unaware that the city would deny payment.
#4 The Mayor improperly authorized payment to the hotel. The Mayor, knowing full well that Menard had not left town, should have contacted Menard by cell phone and insisted Menard find a way to pay before leaving town. Did the Mayor do this for his own political gain? It would be good for him to have both the council member and the Senator out of his hair.
#5 The amount presented to Menard earlier was the same amount the city paid, so it does not appear that the Mayor negotiated any settlement for him, and instead made it as embarrassing to Mr. Menard, the Senator, and the citizens of Wasilla as possible.
Menard has consistently been a good city council member, but he made a very big mistake while under the influence. He has made restitution to the city, including paying back the entire cost of the trip and is taking his recovery program very seriously. I wish him well.
CPG, while sober, have continued to be dishonest in their efforts to remove him from office. They have a right to advocate for his removal, just not to lie while doing so. Ask yourself this: Why is it okay to have a mayor with a reputation for drinking too much and a different council member who made the front page of the local paper for being bodily removed from one of our local watering holes? I haven't seen CPG going after either of them. They would be doing us a better service to leave Menard alone and go after the council members who regularly show up unprepared, with no regard for the facts or the public. Or is that what they want more of?
Trolls, trolls, trolls, always remember, when you have one finger pointing at someone else, two are pointed back at you, plus, of course, any and all sane bystanders.
ReplyDeleteI'm fine with whatever Menard folks do in their private lives, this dude got wasted, wet the bed, vomitted on a rug and got caught, you'd think his mom or cousin Sarah would pull some strings and make those recall ballots disappear.
Hey, Steve, try some wavin and blinkin and fancy pageant walkin' in high heels- auntie Sarah can lend you the wig, heels, and water bra.
8:05 am...you are comedy gold! (pat pat pat on your pointy little head)
ReplyDeleteThere now you run along and tell Mommy Grizzled Dearest you earned that cookie. Oh yeah and tell her I said to fuck off and shut up about things she has no clue on. Which is basically everything and anything.
By the way: any idea when the Skank will come clean regarding Trig?
Let he who has never peed on the bed and puked on the carpet while partying on a taxpayer funded junket to the state capital fling the first barbed comment in the councilmens direction. Oh, nevermind.
ReplyDelete3:40 pm.......
ReplyDeletehow do you know all this? Is this a matter of public record? Link please.
3:40 p.m.- This is 11:39 a.m.
ReplyDeleteI don't have time to respond right now in the manner that I should. I'll be back for that. Just so it's clear, are you a Wasilla local? I'd like to know if you are repeating this in a knee jerk response to defend a Palin family friend, or perhaps you are a Palin/Menard family acquaintance/friend/supporter?
Maybe gasman or Beldar can keep you occupied until I am able to take the time for a proper response. I've got links and I know you don't.
Like Mark Twain said.
ReplyDelete“Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason.”
Ooh that smell, can't you smell that smell?
11:39 AM responds to 3:40 PM
ReplyDelete#1 It is clear to all who know Menard that he was not alone in the room and very unlikely that he did all the damage.
Did Menard or some other witness tell you what happened? Otherwise you are just blowing smoke about whether more than one person was at this party. What makes you think that he had to have help to do this damage? In any case, it is his room, and so he is responsible for whatever his guests damage.
Conclusion: Menard should tell the voters what happened. He should attempt to blame it on as many other individuals as he can. If only he caused the damage, then he should admit this. He might claim that he has no idea how this happened; if he does this, then he can explain why he doesn't know what happened in the room which only he has access to.
#2 Despite that fact that he was not alone in the room, he did, in fact, take full responsibility on the spot and agreed to pay the hotel the full amount due.
Unless this room was accessed without Menard's consent and knowledge, Menard is probably financially responsible for these damages. He did report this damage didn't he? Is there a police report?
Conclusion: Agreeing to pay the full amount due was probably not what the person in charge wanted. They wanted cash or a credit card. Was this the reason police were nearly called? Menard needs to explain this to the voters too. When did Menard report the damage? When did the damage happen? If not the night before checkout, then Menard had time to make payment arrangements. Certainly he wasn't trying to check out with the damages undiscovered and unreported. Menard should explain what happened to the voters. Two different reports do not really match what you claimed.
When Menard checked out of the Westmark Sitka hotel, his room had been extensively damaged. Because the city had only authorized the hotel to bill for its regular $169 a night fee, any other charges were Menard’s responsibility.
As the hotel wrangled with the councilman, who, according to the Westmark’s manager, instructed the hotel to “bill it to the city,” the situation nearly became a matter for the police. www.frontiersman.com/articles/2011/08/19/opinion/editorials/doc4e4de940c8768755090386.txt
Another report of the events: When he tried to check out Aug. 12, hotel staff found Menard’s room had extensive damage. A bill sent to the city from the hotel itemized the damage as including two mattresses and a chair had been urinated on, vomit on the carpet, removal of a screen from a window and a burned mattress.
To avoid involving the police, the city paid the cleaning charge, which Menard reimbursed on Aug. 16.
www.frontiersman.com/articles/2011/08/23/local_news/doc4e534ac29f351085087457.txt
Some might see that the responses to #3 and #4 are contradictory and illogical. How can the mayor be criticized for authorizing the payment, when it was what Menard was attempting to do? Goose meet the gander. Maybe the mayor was worried about bad publicity? Maybe the mayor was concerned that a private business was put in a bad place by the apparently irresponsible action of one of the councilpersons?
Conclusion: If the mayor wanted to score points at either Menard's expense, paying the Westmark is a round about way to do it. Menard should explain his thinking on these topics to the voters.
#5. Paying the bill at the hotel and then settling accounts later "made it as embarrassing to Mr. Menard, the Senator, and the citizens of Wasilla as possible".
Conclusion: That is a possibility which had not occurred to me. Some might think a ride in the police car downtown after a confrontation with hotel management might have been more embarrassing, but your mileage may vary. Menard needs to make these same accustaions if he thinks he needs to.
11:39 am, this is 3:40 pm
ReplyDeleteYes, I am a Wasilla local and have been watching my city government for years. I have never voted for Palin, nor will I ever, and I am certainly not a Palin family friend. I only know the Menards in their official capacities. I'm not defending Menard's behavior; I just believe that he should be judged on the facts.
The information I have is solid, though you won't find it in the Frontiersman, which has more than once quoted the mayor saying things that aren't true.
Clearly Menard doesn't smoke, so the fact that there was smoking damage in the room would indicate he was not alone.
You can check to see that the mayor knew Menard hadn't left town since the mayor, Menard and other council members were booked on the same flight out. It's not like there are lots of flights to choose from.
Administration members received a request for payment from the hotel and turned it down prior to the mayor getting involved and authorizing payment. You should be able to confirm the amount they were asked for, which would rule out a city-negotiated lesser amount.
As for CPG, I have talked to people who initially agreed to pass the petition around based on mis-information, and to people who were contacted on their doorsteps by people asking them to sign the recall petition based on inaccurate information.
By all means, Menard's behavior was unacceptable. However, CPG's dishonesty is also unacceptable, and their failure to go after others who have also disgraced our fair city while under the influence is hypocritical IMO. Sadly, from what I see of the council members, Menard is certainly more competent and less self-serving than some. Perhaps if all the outraged people had paid more attention and done more fact-checking prior to voting, this would not be the case.