Courtesy of Mediaite:
"Leaderless movements don’t endure because they can’t. This is basically a leaderless movement. But I think it’s had a huge effect, and its biggest effect that almost no one ever mentions is that the Tea Party destroyed the Republican establishment. All the people Republicans and conservatives have looked to for guidance have been basically discredited by the Tea Party, which has alllowed this current chaos to flower. That may be a good thing, it might be a bad thing. I don’t even know. But that is the legacy of the Tea Party. No more Washington establishment on the right."
So since Sarah Palin served as the face of the Teabaggers when they were struggling for recognition, and provided them access to the media, does this mean we need to send her "thank you" cards? Cause you KNOW she did not do this on purpose!
I imagine in her simplistic fashion she believed that ALL the Republicans needed to do was to elect a couple of criminally under educated politicians, with no ability to compromise, and they would "fix" what she, and people just as dimwitted as she, perceived as the problems in this country.
Instead, electing these Teabaggers did nothing except slam the brakes on any progress that could have possibly come out of Congress, helped define the Democrats as the only serious political party trying to help Americans, while forcing the current crop of Republican presidential hopefuls to embrace the most ignorant political points of view imaginable in a desperate attempt to seem even more like a crazy right wing loon than their opponents, and hopefully earn the support of the Tea Party paint chip eaters in the process.
We progressives could not have planned it better if we had tried.
Gee thanks Sarah!
Who is that Alan Colmes?? I never watch faux so I have no idea who he is. But could he be more out of touch?? He says he thought the TP was @ #OWS? It seems to me that the Repugs are turning on the TP now that they realize that "movement" has done nothing but bring out the stupid.
ReplyDeleteWhy did it take that douche bag Carlson so long to see this coming?
ReplyDeleteHear Hear Gryphen!! All hail Governor Dirty Wig!!
ReplyDelete*Direct message to you Dirty.....
Thank you for your service Dirty....I raise my Red bull and rum to you and your wonderful (NOT) way with words and actions for bringing the Tea Bagger Party into existence...I know you get ridden (pun intended) by us "elist" often...especially about your language skills....or lack there of...but I'm sure you know we only want what's best for our country and YOU AIN"T IT!
You and your off spring have lowered the standards to such a degree that you have maligned(look it up Bristol!) a WHOLE state along with the people who live there....that is some legacy Dirty!
@GinaM
ReplyDeleteI loved your comment...and calling her "Dirty."
Well said, Gryphen!
ReplyDeleteI'm not counting any chickens, yet. Romney still has to be beaten. Just watch them rally behind him when he gets nominated.
ReplyDeleteThe tea party brought a whole new level of stupid to the table. We're talking Everclear-proof-level stupid - just a wig hair short of 200 proof. Granny griftard was one of the primary standard bearers, what with her "death panel" idiocy and "pallin' around with terrorists" drivel (along with a whole gaggle of other brain numbing "screeching points").
ReplyDeleteI'm glad the gop is finally getting what's been coming to them. They've made a bad habit of pandering to the lowest common denominator for quite a while now. Guess it's time for them to dance with who brung 'em - a fat, ignorant, racist, fearful, xenophobic, fundamentalist, war mongering, greedy, poor spelling, hoverround riding bunch of morons.
Again, someone please kick McCain in the nuts. Fuck you, McCain.
The Tea Party simply helped a party that was already in shambles to implode.
ReplyDeletePoetic justice.
With Sarah Palin as their patron saint.
Love it.
Tucker Carlson, not so much ;-).
I beg to differ with your comment "Cause you KNOW she did not do this on purpose!", because every teabagger I have spoken to has made it explicitly clear: the very purpose of the Tea Party was to destroy the Republican Establishment. Yes, the establishment may not have seen it coming, but the baggers had this as their stated intention from the get-go. If you go back and read what they said, you'll see it for yourself. Moreover, I would say that given the sinister mentality of many on the right, even the establishment might not see this as an entirely bad thing. "What? Want more demagoguery and an even tighter police state with additional, targeted, hated groups? Glad to oblige."
ReplyDeleteI can only HOPE that ultimately this is good news for progressives, but I am not holding my breath by any means. It could still easily take a Hitlerian turn as circumstances in America continue to deteriorate, Congress continues to do nothing, every helpful solution is obstructed, public anger continues to mount, and the lies against Obama increase in their volume and venom. It ain't over 'til it's over, and I see nothing to cheer about.
Ya think???
ReplyDeleteTucker Carlson has always seen himself as a Buckley conservative yet he fanned the flames of the tea party long before the bonfire got going. This is just a small sample of his inability to self reflect. His ego is boundless and self destructive. Now we are supposed to feel his pain?
Give me a break.
http://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Showdown_at_Zuccotti_Park_The_NYPDs_raid_on_Occupy_Wall_Street_NYC
ReplyDeleteFUCK these people for destroying my city and making me late to work.
NOTE TO PROTESTERS!!! YOUR BEEF IS NOT WITH WALL STREET. LAWMAKERS ARE THE ONES WHO GIVE THEM POWER AND CAN TAKE IT AWAY. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE BOUGHT OFF. THEYRE THE ONES WHO MAKE DEALS.
ARGHHHH THE IGNORANCE.
I JUST WANT PEOPLE OUT OF MY GODDAMN COMMUTE. DO TO DC. STALK A CORRUPT SENATOR
Well, I completely disagree. The Tea Party isn't leaderless nor has it destroyed the Republican Establishment. From its inception, it's been funded and manipulated by establishment billionaire Republicans! Seriously, how else do you think they can afford Sarah Palin's $100,000 fee to show up at their events???
ReplyDeleteSecond, Tucker Carlson is wrong in that leaderless movements don't succeed. Looking back at all the big, truly history making movements, spokespersons and leaders emerged after the momentum took hold, but weren't concocted by a single leader.
I can't help but notice the media - and Tucker Carlson is part of the media - have been throwing around this "leaderless" meme lately. I believe they're trying to undermine OWS by doing so. They're getting worried, aren't they?
What Tuck doesn't seem to grasp is that this is not a battle between a leaderless movement. It is a splinter of the GOP top leadership. The Koch Bros. and their pals vs. the old GOP, that it has a teabagger face is nothing more than top dressing on the shit sandwich that is the Koch brothers and their ilk.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Combs the guy who used to get pushed around by Hannity when they had show together? He was weak.
ReplyDelete**WORTH THE READ. YOU WILL LAUGH**
ReplyDeleteAre you a Democrat, a Republican, or a Southerner?
Here is a little test that will help you decide.
The answer can be found by posing the following question:
... ...
You're walking down a
Deserted street with your wife
And two small children.
Suddenly, a Terrorist with a huge knife
Comes around the corner,
Locks eyes with you,
Screams obscenities,
Raises the knife, and charges at you...
You are carrying a
Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP, and you are an expert shot.
You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.
What do you do?
THINK CAREFULLY AND
THEN SCROLL DOWN:
Democrat's Answer:
· Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!
· What is a Kimber 1911 cal. 45 ACP?
· Does the man look poor or oppressed?
· Is he really a terrorist? Am I guilty of profiling?
· Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
· Could we run away?
· What does my wife think?
· What about the kids?
· Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand?
· What does the law say about this situation?
· Does the pistol have appropriate safety built into it?
· Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children?
· Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me?
· Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me?
· If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me?
· Should I call 9-1-1?
· Why is this street so deserted?
· We need to raise taxes, have paint & weed day.
· Can we make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior.
· I need to debate this with some friends for a few days and try to come to a consensus.
· This is all so confusing!
............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ........ ......... .
Republican's Answer:
BANG!
............ ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ........ ......
Southerner's Answer:
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG ! BANG! BANG! BANG!
Click..... (Sounds of reloading)
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!BANG!BANG!
Click
Daughter: 'Nice grouping, Daddy!'
'Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?!
Son: 'Can I shoot the next one?!'
Wife: "You ain't taken that to the taxadermist!"
Hard to fault teabaggers' disdain for Washington fat cat insiders like Carlson, Rove, the Koch bros. and Ailes!
ReplyDeleteBig Gubmint: hands off of my Medicare!
The GOP was only too happy to exploit (pay) these fools during the health care debate. Now they are finding out the dog they brought home from the kennel has an embarrassing habit of humping every leg in sight.
ReplyDeleteSchaeffer Cox at TPMMuckraker.
ReplyDeleteSchaeffer Cox is claiming he tried to be a government snitch!
Cox writes that he believes that Fulton and Bennet “fanned the flames of government overthrow” for an audience of 15 or more people “who had been primed that I had a plan for war very soon.”
He even claimed he contacted an Assistant U.S. Attorney in Fairbanks and told him that the two men were trying “to do something stupid” and that their attack plan “was inconsistent with our philosophy.” He said he did not give Fulton and Bennet’s names to the unnamed federal prosecutor.
Joe Miller and the DropZone arrest of Tony Hopfinger are mentioned. The picture is from the April 13 2009 rally at Denny's with Don Young standing next to Schaeffer Cox. This is where Young signed the manifesto drafted and presented by Cox.
tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/militia_leader_cox_says_fbi_source_pushed_attack_fanned_the_flames_of_government_overthrow.php
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletehttp://live.nydailynews.com/Event/Showdown_at_Zuccotti_Park_The_NYPDs_raid_on_Occupy_Wall_Street_NYC
FUCK these people for destroying my city and making me late to work.
NOTE TO PROTESTERS!!! YOUR BEEF IS NOT WITH WALL STREET. LAWMAKERS ARE THE ONES WHO GIVE THEM POWER AND CAN TAKE IT AWAY. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE BOUGHT OFF. THEYRE THE ONES WHO MAKE DEALS.
ARGHHHH THE IGNORANCE.
I JUST WANT PEOPLE OUT OF MY GODDAMN COMMUTE. DO TO DC. STALK A CORRUPT SENATOR
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Have you considered, like , moving someplace else? there are some beautiful places, with little or no traffic congestions whatsoever. And I'm sure the taxes, rent, mortgages and cost of living are much lower. It would do your blood pressure and caps lock a world of good! And save you money.
What took ole Tucker so long? When is he going "un tucked" and moving to Cnn? That blonde lady didn't look too happy with his answer, could just see an idea whirling aroud in her head, but then the dang tape got cut off.
ReplyDeleteYou're right, the Tea Party never had a leader, neither were they ever orgainzed into one cohesive party.
off topic
Boehner moved to tears on his birthday party in the House of Representatives.... poor dude! So glad free tissues are one of their perks.
Meanwhile, the President is wowing the world, one country at a time:
ReplyDeleteaustralia, day two
http://theobamadiary.com/2011/11/17/australia-day-two/
@ 9:44, 'cause you're perfectly fine with how everything's going for America, right? 'Cause you have a job in the financial sector, perhaps, or in some other business in downtown Manhattan, and it's all good, right? 'Cause people shouldn't be bumming you out or slowing you down - you have important things to do and you aren't just lucky that you have a job, right? You earned it and you deserve it! Never mind the poor souls who have exactly your same education level, but perhaps not your connections or simply your good fortune. Never mind those who don't have the ability to pay for school, or now that they're out can't pay their loans. Again, it's all their fault, right? Wall Street speculation had nothing to do with the poor economy at all, right? Just corrupt Representatives in government? Yeah, that's the ticket....
ReplyDeleteYou are inherently better than these protesters, and none of what they are saying has anything do to with you or your friends and loved ones, right?
Must be nice to be so completely self-centered and closed off to current events. The willful ignorance is all yours.
Wall Street money won't give a damn if people are just hassling representatives in DC. They do feel the pressure of these people in the street, outside their very windows. You are a clear example of that, actually, with your F&% off rant against the OW movement.
So sorry to inconvenience you.
slightly ot
ReplyDeletea little interaction i had with a tea-tard over on gretawire concerning mark kelly's interview with greta....
madisoncftprint
Mark Kelly is media whore just like any reality elite. He'll play it as much as it will go. I am really tired of the overkill that was done on this story from the beginning and chose to ignore it. I was not going to be sucked into an emotional wave. Kelly is not worthy of public office. He could be a dog catcher.
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coomback
LMAO !
why do i get the feelin' you were front and center of your teevee voting multiple times for bristool when $he was on that farce of a program dancing with the stars ?!?
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madisoncftprint
Time to get out of your pajamas and your parent's basement, coomback. Learn to spell like a good little libtard. Some day, maybe you'll make the big time writing for your school paper, but only if you eat you peas.
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coomback
"Learn to spell like a good little libtard"........."but only if you eat 'YOU' peas"....
LMAO !
okeedokee then ! good one tea_bagger_'tard ! i'll be sure to get right on that ! you guys are priceless !
Hey, Tucker, go fuck yourself. For 60 years, the GOP has been pandering to its racist, homophobic, xenophobic, idiot base and now you act SURPRISED that they've come a runnin' with pitchforks and torches?
ReplyDeleteThe teabaggers are the "logical" result of 60 years of fear mongering hate speak. The GOP distilled itself down to a thick syrupy goo of batshit crazy cousin humping buffoons and you blame the teabaggers?
Bullshit. This one's all on the GOP.
The words of Hosea 8:7 come to mind:
"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..."
10:16AM,
ReplyDeleteThe correct answer is two to the body, one to the head.
Here´s one that will make you cheer. It is a verbatim transmission from Seal Team Six:
¨For God and Country, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.¨ Pause. ¨Geronimo, E-KIA.¨
Geronimo was the code name for Osama Bin Laden. ¨E-KIA¨ is enemy killed in action.
You can thank President Obama.
Wait...I agree with Tucker Carlson?
ReplyDeletePigs. Flying. Now.
About the NYC protesters:
ReplyDelete"I am down there EVERYDAY, except when I'm dying of the plague (today)... And most of the people I have encountered have made me want to go to the town their from, squat in their parents driveways for months and walk into their houses, use their facilities, shower with their garden hose, pick the lemons off their trees and go back to play my drum in the shanty I set up outside.
I actually spoke with someone who said "oh yeah? We should occupy their atm vestibules! Thatll show em, thatll slow down their money flow. They'd be fucked!" Oh yeah, self-righteous parent-funded college kid? Who uses the atm to deposit their paychecks of measely hundreds and take out a 20 to pay for food and a ride home? The 1 percent? Yeah, that's where all of BofA's money lies. Not with the trader on the floor of the exchange who moves 30 mil a day, and who could lose 10 mil if he takes a shit between 930 and 4pm?!?
This is not 'sending a message to them'. They're laughing at you. Want to send a message? It requires a trip down the 95 and marching on Washington, not squatting for months on the 99 percents city tax money and disrupting local businesses like mine in Lower Manhattan.
Plus I want my McDonalds back. It smells like patchouli and B-O.
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I am entertained that many people are mocking this whole things.
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9:44AM - Get used to being late for work. OWS isn't going anywhere. Yeah that darn free speech can be pesky sometimes. If you don't like it move to China.
ReplyDeleteWait. How could the tea party destroy the Republican establishment? Sarah clearly says the TP is made up of independents.
ReplyDeleteIs Carlson (and Gryphen) conderdictoring Sarah?
FUCK these people for destroying my city and making me late to work.
ReplyDeleteNOTE TO PROTESTERS!!! YOUR BEEF IS NOT WITH WALL STREET. LAWMAKERS ARE THE ONES WHO GIVE THEM POWER AND CAN TAKE IT AWAY. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE BOUGHT OFF. THEYRE THE ONES WHO MAKE DEALS.
ARGHHHH THE IGNORANCE.
I JUST WANT PEOPLE OUT OF MY GODDAMN COMMUTE. DO TO DC. STALK A CORRUPT SENATOR
9:44 AM
I doubt if any of them are going to read your whiny post here, you stupid fucking ASSHOLE.
For somebody trashing people for complaining to the wrong people, you're sure as fuck doing the exact same thing.
So you are saying it's fine and dandy for Wall Street to be foul and corrupt and tank the economy because Congress didn't expressly forbid them to?
Figures, you sound just that stupid.
Sarah Palin was/is only a symptom, not the disease. I am a life-long Democrat, and the absence of credible candidates on the other side scares me. Our democracy is not well. The dismaying level of ignorance among average Americans is matched by the cynical willingness of politicians and their backers to exploit it, with the mass media caring for nothing but the entertainment value of the game.
ReplyDeleteIt's nice to think that this dismal Republican field will guarantee a second term for Obama next year, but will he get a Congress he can work with? And what happens after Obama and his personal charisma are out of the picture?
@11:51. You totally win the thread.
ReplyDeleteOT - Where is Joe McG. and WHY the sudden total silence???????
ReplyDeleteInteresting if there starts to be huge tension between the floor trader guys trying to get into work, many of whom went straight to Wall Street without college, and the OWS folks, many of whom are college educated. Almost like the tension between some of the cops and the protesters. There's not a lot of patience or tolerance for what the OWS people are trying to do. It's an old story, a class thing.
ReplyDeleteThis is not an easy fight. As usual, people sympathize with the wrong side and vote against their own best interests primarily because of a superficial and overly simplistic identification with the Republican Party. Or they are Republicans simply because they are racist, or they don't want to pay more taxes. Not paying more taxes doesn't begin to cover the issues at hand. But they just can't see that.
The vast majority of these complainers should be supporting the protesters. I would be interested to know what a floor trader actually makes. I bet many make far less than we think. It's the people at the other end of the phones that are the 1%ers, correct? The traders just get commissions or something.
I don't know much about how it works.
Hey Anon at 9:44 AM
ReplyDeleteI think I speak for many here when I say...
Go Fuck Yourself !
@ Canadian Country Girl --
ReplyDeleteJoe did tweet on November 8th
Still. It is worrying. I've always wondered why CNN & even Rachel Maddow dropped him so suddenly.
Reading his book now. Very reasonably written; no hysterics. Even tho I have followed every nuance of her "career" I am still appalled at what he discovered of her. What a sick creep she was/is. She looks horrible in that recent vid with Gerta. The worm is turning, SP, and you will increasing look like the evil person you are inside.
Think I'd better sign this Anonymous.
joemcginniss Joe McGinniss
@FrankBruni from joemcginniss@gmail.com would like to email you privately about Paterno/Penn State. Sickening on so many levels. Joe
8 Nov
Everyone has a right to their own opinion, no matter how much it makes them sound like the offspring of first cousins, and having sniffed glue their entire teenaged years.
ReplyDeleteBut when someone WITH a job, smugly tells someone else to go GET one, as if that is the easiest thing in the world, it makes me want to smash their head in.
Or, in the least, send up prayers, light incense, cast spells, or whatever is necessary to make it so they lose THEIR job, and find themselves suddenly in REALITY.
Maybe Romney looked at what happened the last time a Repo Pres candidate embraced the TeePeers, and doesn't want to go there.
ReplyDeleteSorry guys, I support the ideals of OWS, but I agree with 9:44. At this point the movement needs to decide on some practical steps to effect change. Are they going to show up in massive numbers to vote in 2012 and flip the House and increase the number of liberals in the Senate? Are they going to focus on specific members of congress who have allowed Wall Street and corporations to fleece America? Are they going to put direct pressure on Democrats and move them to the left like the Tea Party moved Rs to the right? If they are going to just keeping occupying cities without a plan of action ordinary citizens are going to get fed up. Their poll numbers are already going down.
ReplyDeleteTucker, lad. I have one thing to say. Tough sugar. I recall your lofty comments about socialism and liberals. Support for that wretch Sarah Palin(tm). Yup, it's been trashed. Pull up your man-pants and deal with it.
ReplyDeletePS. Eric Cantor isn't so haughty about this anymore, either. He finally got the four syllables of bipartisan in the right order. Of course he meant, he wants Obama to agree with House GOPers, but he said it.
To "Think I'd better sign this Anonymous" @3:22
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for the update. As long as Joe is well, I'm o.k. with the silence. I miss his take on things - and the power he has to wake people up. I've wondered why he hasn't written something like - "I'm taking a leave of absence for a few days." on his Rogue Blog.
Message to Joe:
Hi Joe! Just take care - so many people drop away from presenting material (aka The Truth) because of threats to themselves and their family. I trust that all is well with you and yours. Do let us know that you are o.k. when you get a chance. We care about you.
Her eyes look crazier as she ages! How could this be?
ReplyDelete1:28 you are right on. This democracy is in the crapper. I am disgusted by the level of ignorance in the GOP or whatever the hell these people call themselves ... It is astonishing these people are senators, governors, etc. ...
ReplyDeleteThe GOP should cast aside this right wing id machine and support a reasonable person for president. I think millions of people who think no one hears them will jump on board.
ReplyDeletebirdwatcher..8:54 A.M. That is IF Romney is nominated. You can't say he will be nominated. He is not the lead sin the polls. He is unlikable.
ReplyDeleteCanadian Country Girl, if you want to write a message for Joe McGinniss try using twitter or leave a message on his Facebook page instead of the comment section of a blog post at the immoral minority blogspot about Tucker Carlson. Ya know, a site on the internet that Joe might actually frequent regularly. I highly doubt he's scrolling through the comment section of this blog! Just saying, it's a nice sentiment but it's wasted here.
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