Religious tolerance does NOT mean only protecting the rights of Christians. It means making ALL people, of ALL faiths, feel included in this great country of ours.
I am pretty sure that is what Jesus would have wanted.
Thursday, December 22, 2011
I just thought this needed to be said, though it SHOULD be obvious to all.
Religious tolerance does NOT mean only protecting the rights of Christians. It means making ALL people, of ALL faiths, feel included in this great country of ours.
I am pretty sure that is what Jesus would have wanted.
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Gryphen,
ReplyDeleteThanks for this...but you forgot Pagan's & Wiccans who are celebrating "Yule" or "Winter Solstice" today. Even Rachel Maddow had a blog post up :)
Otherwise, Good job :)
LOVE it!
ReplyDeleteSame goes for flying spaghetti monster.
ReplyDeleteLove it!
ReplyDeleteBut really, professional Christians (AKA as "People of Faith") like Sarah Palin and her hypocritical, whining, self-centered ilk, LOVE to feed their persecution complexes with this pathetic, unreality-based "war on Christmas" bullshit.
All they are doing is showing how desperately they crave attention ("Hey everybody, look at ME for being such a good CHRISTIAN! [Unlike you!]") and what ridiculously high opinions they have of their precious selves.
It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
Sarah Palin is such a hateful, hate-filled human-being... how can she even stand herself? I can really picture her spontaneously combusting one day from the heat of the hatred consuming her.
What a nice Holiday Greeting! Thanks, Gryphen, and the same to you and your readers.
ReplyDeleteIt's time to dust off my old Anthropology Course where we learned that many of today's religions and customs have pagan roots that go back long before the days of organized religion.
At the darkest part of the year, agricultural societies depended on the sun to make their crops grow. As the sunlight disappeared in winter, they burned something to make the sun burn brightly. It is called Mimetic Magic, namely setting the example of something burning more brightly each day with hopes that the sun would mimic it. We know how important it was for early societies to follow the movements of the sun and the moon. Stonehenge, that magical circle of stones in England, is an astronomical clock.
At this time of year, the Hindus celebrate Divali, a feast of lights. Jews celebrate Chanukah, burning candles each day until the candle holder is filled with eight burning candles (and an extra one to light them). In Peru, during the time of the Incas, they created a great disc of gold (the sun) and tied it to a stone so that the sun wouldn't disappear. In Pagan Europe, people burned trees, the origin of the Yule Log. It was Queen Victoria who got the bright idea (from her German husband) to decorate it. None of these activities were designed to celebrate the birth of a baby destined to be an important religious figure.
It's too bad that Sarah Palin is so singular in her faith that she denies everyone else's right to practice theirs.
And...the word "holiday" is a contraction of "holy day". So Happy Holidays is literally the inclusion of all.
ReplyDeleteYes, Jesus was all about inclusion, wasn't he? Jesus reached out to the poor, the lame, the sick. He made them well with his words and his love. Republicans and especially Teabaggers as personified by Sarah Palin and company, are all about exclusion, propping up the rich and saying "screw you" to the poor. Would Jesus approve their message?
ReplyDeleteChelsey Lately just had a hilarious segment about Palin that went on for about 4 minutes. It was great!
ReplyDeleteET had a segment tonight about Palin's criticism of President Obama's Christmas card. They went on from there to show a clip of "Game Changer".
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, her cult at C4P are sending their money in for commercials to play in Iowa featuring Palin. How can people actually be that ignorant to continue sending money to her---suckers!!!
How does wishing people Merry Xmas mere days before the event practicing intolerance?
ReplyDeleteit is what she believes. It is the holiday fast approaching. You're kind of ridiculous with all the name calling. But then again, thats how radicals roll isn't it?
Anon 7:18, do you have a link for the Chelsea Lately piece? I just goggled it but didn't get anything current. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteIt's Merry Christmas to me. Anybody that has issues with that can fuck themselves.
ReplyDeleteThis link shows a unique tree, which I was able to see today upon my arrival to spend Christmas with family. Social media powers the Christmas lights.
ReplyDeleteThe link includes a short video explaining the tree together with a livestream. It was kewl to see.
http://digitallife.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/22/9640155-social-media-powers-these-christmas-tree-lights
ROFL
ReplyDeleteC'mon Gryph, "Christians" like Sarah Palin, Pat Robertson and all those hate-filled "we're offended that someone dared suggest constitutional rights apply to gays/Muslims" organizations that have the word "family" in their name don't know anything about Jesus...
http://www.loriferber.com/research/white-house-christmas-cards.html
ReplyDeleteCheck out this interesting website. (disclaimer: when measured by Sarah Palin hyperchristian holiday card standards, all of our past presidents were likely atheists or muslins or hottentots or something.)
agree and thanks.
ReplyDeleteOnly people with a persecution complex feel there is a war on Christmas. Assholes. I love Christmas and honor it as the approximate birthday of Christ. I have never felt under attack for my beliefs except by evangelicals.
ReplyDeleteGryphen, I know you like Christmas. I am hoping you have a real nice holiday, whatever that means to you.
ReplyDeletePersonally, it's not one of my holidays, but if it's not asking too much, I am hoping you will share yours with us, if it's not too personal to ask.
I'm pretty sure many of us will be right here, at some time or another, and I wish you all in this wonderful community the best of the best of the season, and fulfilled wishes for all.
I love this place.
FWIW: In Fargo, North Dakota there is no snow on the ground. Not unheard of, it happened back in '57...but good grief! The forecast is for 46-50 degrees.
ABOVE ZERO also, too.
It just dunnot seem right, gonna ride my bike all day if I can.
Peace all....
Tell me this isn't a joke. In the second video (and we know that there are thousands of images they have to choose from) there is a shot with KATIE COURIC asking her that 'gotcha' question about what she reads, and then in a second or two there's that 'nasty' looking one that Gryph posts to scare us sometimes...are they being played or just clueless?
ReplyDeletehttp://conservatives4palin.com/2011/12/an-independent-group-will-be-running-more-palin-commercials-in-iowaopen-thread.html
It takes a special kind of a-hole to insist that their religious holiday be celebrated by everybody.
ReplyDelete"Christmas is for everybody?"
No, Sarah you idiot, Christmas is for Christians. Then again, we all know that Sarah isn't actually a practicing Christian, so Christmas is for Christians and people who are conveniently "Christian" when it suits their purposes.
Right wingers are pulling their hair out because:
ReplyDeleteBachmann, Huntsman, Santorum fail to make Virginia ballot
That’s not even the worst part. The worst part is that Perry and Gingrich, either one of whom could still become the Great Grassroots Hope against Romney, might not have qualified either.
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/dec/22/bachmann-huntsman-santorum-not-on-va-primary-ballo-ar-1563033/
You need 10,000 signatures to make the ballot but 15,000 are recommended since a bunch are bound to be thrown out as false or duplicative as the petitions are scrutinized. You also need at least 600 signatures from each of Virginia’s 11 congressional districts. Romney submitted 16,026 and Ron Paul submitted 14,361. Perry’s total: 11,911. Gingrich’s: 11,050. If they end up getting bounced, the Republican primary ballot for one of America’s key swing states will consist exclusively of … Mitt Romney and Ron Paul.
You know who that benefits?
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/22/fiasco-bachmann-huntsman-santorum-fail-to-make-virginia-ballot/
I get the feeling Sarah is trying to make Willow "happen."
ReplyDelete6:50 Look what the constant 'hate' that Palin has has done to her physcially over the past few years. She's lost her youthfulness and good looks! She is now manly looking, has lost her hair (due to stress and eating habits) and on and on. She's a friggin' mess!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteHow does wishing people Merry Xmas mere days before the event practicing intolerance?
it is what she believes. It is the holiday fast approaching. You're kind of ridiculous with all the name calling. But then again, thats how radicals roll isn't it?
7:44 PM
It isn't that she and O'Reilly want to say "Merry Christmas." It;s that they denigrate anyone and everyone who doesn't. We are not the name-callers...Fox News takes care of that. Who started this 'war?' Nor are we 'radical' to want to include everyone. But lying is how 'conservatives' stay in control.
from Sea of Pee--
ReplyDelete""i want to quickly gather money together, give it to facebook, making a one time "lifetime budget" payment and that's it, then let the ads get out there!
it's hard to say exactly how much is needed! but the more money we put in, the more times the ad can be shown. so give what you can, small donations welcome. donate through paypal to supersachiko [AT SIGN] hotmail.com. but, any payments to there are awaiting approval from my dad, lol. my account is connected to his because it's only a "student account." he's asleep, i'll talk to him in the morning. if any problems occur i will send back everyone's money""
Pretty sure this money will need to be claimed as income by Ms Jasmines dad.
Hey Sarah how come Willow is not in school?
ReplyDeleteAnyone?
Can somebody in Alaska tell us why the ex governor's daughter is not in school?
A previous commenter mentioned how several cultures around the world practiced a ceremony around the winter solstice. Allow me to add one from New Mexico:
ReplyDeleteThe Chaco Canyon culture was likely a ceremonial center for the Anasazi people of southern Colorado and Utah and northern Arizona and New Mexico. A petroglyph nearby has been "found" behind a slanted stone far to large to has been moved. The glyph is a spiral, and on the winter solstice the end and the center of the spiral have a line crossing them, made by the shadow of the large stone.
The arrangement of the architecture within the canyon also has significance to both the summer and winter solstices. All of the structures align with planes that align with the sun and moon on the winter and summer solstice.
Several centuries before the European came to the New World, there was a celebration of this season. Shouldn't $arah be celebrating this true native celebration instead of the one manufactured less than 2 centuries ago?
And isn't tolerance part of her Christmas myth anyway?
In Allah We Trust.
ReplyDeleteI've been hoping you could dig up some of Sarah's official holiday cards as Governor....I did find this site-
ReplyDeletehttp://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=266820
which has articiles about Governor's cards...it makes it sound like Sarah in 2007 was among those who just wished a "Happy Holiday" If you click on the link to the Season's Greetings story at the bottom you go to the 2006 list of cards. Both of these stories are supposed to be accompanined by lists of the cards from the Governors, but oddly, the info seems to be missing until you go back to 2005, then you can see every card. Damn web scrubbers.
I also found an old post by Patrick at Palingates saying he had posted a photo of a 2008 Palin Xmas card on his flickr site (he posted for handwriting comparison purposes). But Palingates is over and his flickr site is closed, maybe you know how to contact him? Or is 2008 the Baby Trig card? If so, that's pretty useless.
http://palingates.blogspot.com/2009/07/arah-palins-handwriting.html
Ditto all the comments made about what a nasty, hateful person SP is. She's so sick, she doesn't know she's sick.
ReplyDeleteHere's a little Christmas history:
"Liberal plots notwithstanding, the Americans who succeeded in banning the holiday were the Puritans of 17th-century Massachusetts. Between 1659 and 1681, Christmas celebrations were outlawed in the colony, and the law declared that anyone caught "observing, by abstinence from labor, feasting or any other way any such days as Christmas day, shall pay for every such offense five shillings." Finding no biblical authority for celebrating Jesus' birth on Dec. 25, the theocrats who ran Massachusetts regarded the holiday as a mere human invention, a remnant of a heathen past. They also disapproved of the rowdy celebrations that went along with it. "How few there are comparatively that spend those holidays … after an holy manner," the Rev. Increase Mather lamented in 1687. "But they are consumed in Compotations, in Interludes, in playing at Cards, in Revellings, in excess of Wine, in Mad Mirth." "
I LOVE the 1st Family's Christmas card with beautiful Bo. It makes me smile.
So, with that, thank you Gryph for your blog and keeping on this bitchs ass, Merry Christmas to you and your daughter and Merry Christmas/Hanukka/Quanza to all the IM'rs. :-)
Anon 7:44, it is amazing to me that you do not understand how offensive Sarah Palin is to the vast number of Americans. And you! What a joke you are. You come here and call us names, then turn around and accuse us of name calling. You dont even see what a hypocrite you are.
ReplyDeleteIts really shocking to me that you have the gall to call us radical when your idols views ( and yours apparanently) are so far outside the norm. Her behavior is completely inappropriate, her beliefs are backwards and archaic.
She is so removed from real Americans and how we celebrate diversity and want an America for everyone.
This is exactly why she will never be president, never!
She is the radical one. You are so blind to this or brainwashed that it's really quite pathetic.
As a Jewish person, her comment that Christmas should unite us all, is just more proof of how really out of touch and frankly stupid she is. I don't hate or dislike Christmas but it is simply not part of my life. And that is my right. She would impose her beliefs (she already tries to no stop) and that is simply not very American. I'm afraid she/ you will never get it. Narcissists do not have the capability to understand, empathize or respect other people's viewpoints.
She is a classic NPD personality with zero personal insight, zero humility, never recognizes or admits when she is wrong. I could go on but you won't get it anyhow. No you and Sarah are too busy being the victim and trying to protect a mythical public image she has created. You are both incredibly shallow and unfeeling based on all you have written and her silly mean girl rants. and don't dare say we dont know you / her. Who you both are is clear as a bell.
You really dont belong on this site. Your stalking and attacking behavior and your obsession with Sarah is all very odd. I hope you have a counselor but then again people with severe personality disorders don't benefit from counseling because typically they think everyone else has the problem, and not them. It's very dysfunctional for you to stalk this site. You aren't helping Sarah so my guess is you have a need to stir the pot to get attention. Gee who else does that sound like? How vapid, how pathetic. I will pray for you both.
C4P is "thrilled with the involvement of so many Iowans" in the Palin Earthquake movement. Isn't that great? When you compare the number of people who caucused in 2008 with the number of people in the earthquake movement you have almost 0.004% of them ready to write Sarah in and prove she's the most popular Republican of all and the ONLY one who can beat Obama! It's so easy for them to say that since they'll never have to prove it.
ReplyDeleteListen, folks, governing is hard work as Sarah found out when she tried it a few times while actually being Governor. She's not going to give up this life of leisure for the Presidency. She'd have to make up a new department, too, and knowing
Sarah, it would be one of the largest. The job of this new dept? To monitor bloggers & anyone who dared to utter a negative word about Sarah! They tried to do this while she was governor but they didn't have enough staff to do the monitoring and the actual work of governing so you know something had to give and of course, Sarah, loving Alaska as much as she does but loving herself far more, chose Alaska!
It's really not that hard to play nicely together. At my hospital we have every faith represented...and it is pretty clear who the christians, the jews and the muslims are. For the christians we tell them "Merry Christmas" as they are leaving the clinic after their cancer chemotherapy. For the jews we say "Happy Hanakuh" as they are leaving the clniic after their cancer chemotherapy. To the muslims we say " see you next year" as they are leaving after their cancer chemotherapy. To those we are unsure about, we say "happy holidays" as they are leaving the clinic after their cancer chemotherapy. No one is offended by our efforts. These people are fighting for their lives and know what is important.....that Christians and Jews and Muslims are caring for Christians and Jews and Muslims and every other belief out their.
ReplyDeletePeople REALLY DO need to get over themselves and think about what is important as humans....caring for each other.
teutonic13 said...
ReplyDeleteIt's Merry Christmas to me. Anybody that has issues with that can fuck themselves.
8:02 PM
Good for you, except you don't live in an insular bubble. How nice that you want those who don't celebrate christmas to fuck themselves.
Newsflash: the rest of us will fight to the end before we let this country be turned into an insular bubble.
And happy Festivus! Or as I'm calling it today because I'm running behind all week, Fesolstivus! We are burning yule logs in our fireplace tonight. Maybe we'll toss in a little Japanese New Year and write wishes on paper and burn them in the fireplace. We could write some Festivus grievances too and burn them. I like combining various holiday traditions in new patterns. And yeah, I'm even going with Merry Xmas today after getting some xmas spirit yesterday by helping dozens of families have xmas for their kids. Xmas is for kids.
ReplyDeleteEspecially this year when Hannukah coincides with Xmas!
ReplyDelete"teutonic13 said...
ReplyDeleteIt's Merry Christmas to me. Anybody that has issues with that can fuck themselves.
8:02 PM"
Spoken like a true Christian.
"How does wishing people Merry Xmas mere days before the event practicing intolerance?
ReplyDeleteit is what she believes. It is the holiday fast approaching. You're kind of ridiculous with all the name calling. But then again, thats how radicals roll isn't it?
7:44 PM"
No.... it's what she "believes."
This whole obsession with the "war" on Christmas is a load of horseradish. It makes it difficult to wish someone well, one day of the year.
ReplyDeleteAs a non-believer, I think we should all have a tattoo on our forehead that declares what religion one is and what the appropriate, non offending, well-wish is for that particular Religion.
Until then, "Happy Holiday" should be universally accepted.
While we're on the subject, how about lifting the tax exempt status of all religions? Jesus didn't seem to like tax collectors, but in a democracy, they're a necessary evil.