Wednesday, December 14, 2011

What do Mitt Romney, flip flopping on abortion, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer have in common? You would be surprised.

"Look just tell me what I need to believe to get elected, and THAT'S what I believe!"
Courtesy of Jezebel:

Judith Dushku is a professor of history at Suffolk University, an outspoken Mormon feminist, and the mother of Dollhouse and Buffy star Eliza Dushku. She's also the founder of Exponent II, a Mormon feminist publication. In 1990, Ms. Dushku's magazine published the story of an anonymous 41 year old woman who experienced a life-threatening blood clot while she was pregnant for the sixth time. The woman was told by doctors that treatment of the clot would threaten the pregnancy, and so an abortion was necessary. The Mormon faith officially opposes abortion except in extreme cases, and women who are members of the church and seek an abortion are required to petition church elders for permission. She and her husband petitioned the Church to authorize them to receive the procedure, and a church elder told her and her husband that the procedure looked like unfortunate but unavoidable. 

On the day of the abortion, the couple showed up at the hospital only to be greeted by their bishop, who had shown up, unannounced, to try to prevent her from going through with it, regardless of the fact that a church official with a higher rank than his had already given the okay. The bishop was determined to make his case against the life-saving surgery, and he was a total dick about it. According to a 2007 interview with Dushku, the following exchange occurred, 

He said – What do you think you're doing? 

She said – Well, we have to abort the baby because I have these blood clots. 

And he said something to the effect of – Well, why do you get off easy when other women have their babies? 

And she said – What are you talking about? This is a life threatening situation. 

And he said – Well what about the life of the baby? 

And she said – I have four other children and I think it would be really irresponsible to continue the pregnancy. 

The bishop who tried to block that selfish, selfish clotted up woman from saving her own life with a legal medical procedure was one Mitt Romney. The woman he attempted to block did go through with her abortion and lived to see her four teenage children grow up. Her family later left the church. 

When the Exponent II story was originally published, both the identity of the woman and the identity of the bishop were concealed. 

Several years later, Dushku was pleasantly surprised to read that Romney was running for Senate as a pro-choice candidate, and even thought she could lend her support to Romney and his newfound pro-woman political stance. When she visited his office, he told her that he only supported a pro-choice agenda because church elders in Provo had told him that it was the only way he'd win the seat in the liberal state. 

Dushku expressed her dismay at Romney's position of convenience, and he replied that he was totally fine with being pro choice for the sake of a campaign, as he had an aunt who died of a botched abortion. The two parted ways unsatisfied, and shortly thereafter Dushku revealed that Romney was the anti-choice bishop who had blocked the anonymous woman from having an abortion more than a decade before. The two friends had a falling out and stopped speaking. 

She attempted to restore the friendship after Romney lost to Senator Ted Kennedy, but Romney rebuked her in the butthurtiest way possible, telling Dushku that he never wanted to speak to her again. She says, 

He said I'm so angry at you. I don't ever want to talk about this again. And I don't want to talk to you. 

And I said, I'm sorry about that Mitt because I thought we could have our political differences and remain at least cordial. 

He said – No. That's not possible. 

Some fans of Romney believe that he's long ago left behind his 1970's zealot ways. But Judith Dushku isn't convinced, and neither are we.

Rarely does a story come along that is so chock full of bizarre coincidences, stunning revelations, and potentially damaging information for a politician, yet here we are.

So what we learn here is that Mitt Romney was once such a pro-life zealot that he attempted to convince a woman to sacrifice her life, and deprive her four children of their mother, all to ensure the birth of a baby who would forever know that they had been the cause of their mother's death. Seriously?

Attempting to shame this woman after the church had already given her permission to make this extraordinarily difficult choice, is unconscionable. (And I have to wonder, what did the LDS church think of Romney's interference?)

And then we learn that despite the fact that Romney seemed to feel no compunction about asking a woman to give up her life in support of his pro-life beliefs, that he HIMSELF was willing to cast them aside for the opportunity to win a seat in the Senate. Which means that either Mitt was NEVER that sold on the whole pro-life thing, or that he is a fucking liar!

And if that isn't enough, we also learn that Romney is a pissy spoiled brat who seemingly holds a grudge forever.

Personally I find it VERY appropriate that the two front runners in the GOP race for President, are two lying pieces of shit. I have to say that after reading this, my opinion of Romney is even lower than it was before, and THAT is really saying something!

I think I will make myself feel better by putting up a picture of Eliza "Faith" Dushku, of whom I am a big fan.

There that's better. And BTW who knew she has such an interesting mom?

46 comments:

  1. Anonymous3:20 PM

    What an imbecile Mr. Romney is. And completely self-righteous, as he comes across today whenever he opens his mouth in public other than to eat. The man should not be near public office, or any position of trust. He will never be more than 25% popular with the Republicons, even as stupid as they appear to be.

    I have on grammatical gripe, examples of which I find regularly on your blog. No big deal, but still:

    "So what we learn here is that Mitt Romney was once such a pro-life zealot that he attempted to convince a woman to sacrifice her life, and deprive her four children of their mother, all to ensure the birth of a baby who would forever know that they had been the cause of their mother's death. Seriously?"

    Should not be "they" [plural] had been the cause of "their" [plural] mother's death, because it is "a baby" [singular] you are writing about. Use "he" or "she", or "he or she", or "she/he", "he/she", and "her mother's death" or "his mother's death."

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  2. Anonymous3:21 PM

    Now that is REAL beauty. No WONKY EYE, and no FAKE EYEGLASSES. GOOD HYGIENE ALSO.

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  3. Anonymous3:27 PM

    Oh my God! That is an AMAZING story and it's just what I thought--Romney is a liar of convenience. The sentence that reveals that he takes his orders from the hierarchy of the Mormon church is simply astonishing. It would be like if JFK had been calling the Pope to find out what positions to take. Most religions give guidelines and the members have freedom to make a choice and interpret as they like. This story shows the difference in the Mormon church in two instances: the woman and her husband having to defer to the church about a life threatening issue and Mitt making his choice of political positions with the church hierarchy as his unseen but all powerful advisors. Mind boggling!!!!!
    IWantTheTruth

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  4. angela3:28 PM

    There aren't many people I lower myself to call a douche. But what a douche Romney is . . . .

    A person without consistency is a person who will stab you in the back—consistently.
    I wouldn't trust Mitt as far as I could throw all his money.

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  5. What a Maroon!3:29 PM

    Perfect! I emailed this to my contacts at CNN. Here is hoping they pick this story up regarding this self-absorbed ass wipe!

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  6. Anonymous3:37 PM

    Should not be "they" [plural] had been the cause of "their" [plural] mother's death, because it is "a baby" [singular] you are writing about. Use "he" or "she", or "he or she", or "she/he", "he/she", and "her mother's death" or "his mother's death."

    I was taught that a comma should go inside quotation marks (as long as we're grammatically griping.)

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  7. Anonymous3:43 PM

    Wow. I hope this story hits the MSM if Romney gets the nomination. NO Independent would vote for him on this story alone, also a lot of Republicans. It certainly has changed my view of the man (that, and the dogontopofthecar story.)

    MicMac

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  8. She was the badest slayer ever.

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  9. Anonymous3:56 PM

    On top of being a lying piece of shit, he's a dumbass. What politician in his right mind would say "I'm lying to get elected"?

    Yo, grammar police. "They" also defines the singular he or she:

    they
    plural pronoun, possessive their or theirs, objective them.
    1.nominative plural of he, she, and it.
    2.people in general: They say he's rich.
    3.(used with an indefinite singular antecedent in place of the definite masculine he or the definite feminine she ): Whoever is of voting age, whether they are interested in politics or not, should vote.

    Also, I'm not so sure "Should not be..." is grammatically correct. Perhaps it was the continuation of a sentence, in which case "should" should not be capitalized.

    I'm surprised you consider yourself anal about grammar, but aren't too concerned about spelling. I'm guessing you have "one gripe" and not "on gripe".

    Annoying, ain't it?

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  10. Anonymous4:15 PM

    Ka Jo - Just saw your tweet linking to this story on the 'mittromney' stream (or whatever you call it!!).

    Good Work!!!

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  11. Balzafiar4:15 PM

    @3:20pm

    Sorry, but you are wrong and Gryphen's usage is perfectly correct -- and widely used. His usage is what is known as an epicene they.

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  12. Terrible story, but I'm confused about one thing. It seems Ms Dushko wanted to be friends with Mitt after the incident? I don't see how she could want anything to do with him.

    I can't stand Mitt Romney. And it has nothing to do with the fact that I am a progressive Dem. It's because he is a complete empty shell of a person. And his wife ain't much better.

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  13. Anonymous4:36 PM

    When we get paid for posting comments - then the grammar police can lecture -- til then peeple cin spel and punchuate any weigh thay want.

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  14. Coincidentally, I was watching a Dollhouse video (starring Eliza Dushku) just moments before I logged on to Gryphen. If you liked her in Buffy...!

    And thanks for the link, Gryphen, I added it to my Facebook page.

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  15. The only thing I find difficult to believe in the story is the fact that Romney supposedly told Dushko that he was only seeming pro-choice to win the election and that LDS higer-ups told him to lie. I just can't see Romney admitting such a thing - to anybody, but particularly to someone who held different views than he did and could - potentially - tell others about the conversation.

    Anyone else have that question? By the way, I loathe Mitt Romney. Not because I'm a progressive Dem and wouldn't vote for any Republican these days, but because he's a totally soulless person. He seems to have no empathy or attachment to anything or anybody. Maybe he's close to his wife and five sons, but as for "real people", no way.

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  16. Anonymous5:21 PM

    Why am I not surprised that not only did Romney lie about being pro-choice, but he did so at the suggestion, and with the blessing, of the powers of the Mormon church. That same lack of ethics and self-righteous hypocrisy seem to be the common thread that runs through the entire conservative religious and political leadership. To expand Christopher Hitchens' comment about Jerry Falwell, "You could give the lot of them an enema and bury what's left in one coffin."

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  17. My opinion of Romney just nosedived big time. Besides shining a damaging light on him, the story clearly highlights the religious nature of the abortion debate--a debate that should be confined to inside church walls. How disturbing it is that every single GOP candidate, including the libertarian Ron Paul, wants to legally remove a woman's freedom to end a pregnancy.

    Interesting that Romney uses his aunt's botched abortion as an excuse to oppose legal abortion. There's a pretty good chance his aunt had an illegal and unsafe bortion in pre-Roe v. Wade days. But no matter. Surely, he'd call for a law against heart bypass surgery if his uncle died on the operating table.

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  18. Anonymous5:37 PM

    The media is desperate to keep the 2012 election sounding like a horse race. So Romney could be Satan himself, but the media will keep him afloat.

    I am sure Romney has been involved in many such incidents in his position as "bishop". The Mormon church is a wonderful training ground for men to develop the sterling character of a Mitt Romney.

    But until someone becomes a viable GOP candidate we are stuck watching the media fawn over their darling boy.

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  19. Anonymous5:39 PM

    Mormons sure do have a way with women, don't they.

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  20. Anonymous5:51 PM

    I simply do not trust the man. That is all there is to say on the matter.

    I also have worked with Mormons who straight up lie about their anti-abortion stance. They say they are pro choice, but the reality is they will lie to anybody they believe they can convert to Mormonism.

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  21. Anonymous6:24 PM

    Gryph...you know you've made it into the blogosphere big time when Sarah Palin, her family, and her staff can't stay away from your blog since the LSM is ignoring her. Palin has tried too hard to get men she hates fired from their jobs and label all of them, any of 'em pedophiles (except for Glen Rice & Glenn Beck).

    Congratulations and GOD BLESS GABBY GIFFORDS!

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  22. Cool it Grammer Police6:31 PM

    3:20pm

    Get a "gripe" and stop "gripping".

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  23. Gee...if I knew Gryphen was going to be grading our comments for spelling and grammar I might have paid better attention in skool.

    Anywho...I read this story on Jezebel a while back and the comments were brutal towards "Milt".

    Where does he get the nerve and what makes ole Milt think women aren't paying attention to his misogynistic ass. Again I feel sorry for Mrs. "Milt".

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  24. Anonymous6:43 PM

    The Mormons have a long tradition of lying. They call it "lying for the lord." Getting a Mormon in the White House would definitely be more important to the church leadership then telling the truth.

    http://www.mormonwiki.org/Lying_for_the_Lord

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  25. Saying he claimed to be pro-choice just to get elected reminds me of his saying to the lawn service that he couldn't hire "illegals" because he was a candidate for office. Not because it was against the law or anything.

    This is an amazing story. Thanks for posting. The GOP threw women under the bus a long time ago, in a much bigger way than deciding Plan B wouldn't be sold to young teens.

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  26. onething6:47 PM

    Gryphen,

    How come you have ignored the new legislation, partially drawn up by McCain, that essentially announces that the US is now a police state?

    Or did I miss it?

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  27. Beldar Butthurt Conehead7:02 PM

    ", but Romney rebuked her in the butthurtiest way possible,"

    What the hell, Gryphen!!! "butthurtiest"?? That isn't even a real word!!! If you're going to call yourself a journalist, you have an obligation to use legitimate word choices! Think of the children!! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!

    The proper word to use for Mitten's callous behavior is "douchebagiest". Don't force me to scold you again about this matter!!

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  28. Anonymous7:09 PM

    Oh, Phoebe in Santa Fe, yes I believe Romney would tell Ms. Dushku he was lying to get elected.

    Because she was a Mormon, and a WOMAN he thought she would totally back him up. Because Mormon women are supposed to support male "priesthood" holders.

    Besides, he had gotten "permission" from their church authorities so he was just "following orders".

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  29. Aren't all Repub1%can't politicians hypocrites and liars?

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  30. EX Cat7:55 PM

    Alex' I'll take fucking liar for a thousand.

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  31. Anonymous8:49 PM

    Many conservative evangelical Christians recognize the lying for a purpose idea. It becomes a problem when the person they suspect might do this belongs to what they consider to be a heretical cult. That is what many think of the Mormon Church and Mitt Romney.

    Caught lying as a real Republican- not a problem, IOKIYAR. Suspect a Mormon is doing this, then IOKIYAR does not apply.

    This is just one of the reasons that anyone who thinks the Teabangelical branch of the Republican Party will support Mitt Romney has been smoking crack.

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  32. Anonymous8:52 PM

    The more I hear about this guy, the lower my opinion gets. What's lower than the bottom of a cesspool?

    He'll say, do, agree with, disagree with anything to win an election.

    Bet you 10 grand this doesn't hit the mainstream media!

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  33. Anonymous9:09 PM

    What a choice the Republicans have for their primary. Not one of the (R) candidates is ethically qualified to win the spot to run against President Obama.

    President Obama will be elected again and I'm eager to vote for him. I would imagine Republican upon Republican is going to leave their party after watching this crap called a 'primary'!!!

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  34. Anonymous9:12 PM

    Every Mormon I have ever met has turned out to be a liar - dated one (found out he was married) and worked w/some - one I worked with in a like position ended up being fired because he was proven to be unethical and the other one would always fall asleep at his desk!

    Mention a male Mormon to me and I immediately go on the alert!!! Me thinks Willard is not to be trusted either.

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  35. Anonymous at 3:20, did you find it ironic that you began your grammatical rant with, "I have on grammatical gripe..."

    Did you learn anything from that? Gryph is a blogger working at a fast pace with an amazingly high output. I don't care who you are or how good your English skills are, when you produce at that rate you are going to have grammatical errors.

    Anonymous at 9:12. You have either not met very many Mormons or you are a prejudiced liar. Like any group of people, there are honest Mormons and there are dishonest Mormons. I have known thousands, and I would say the majority have been honest. Many may be misguided but they are honest and you sound more than a bit bigoted to me.

    Yes, to hate and judge someone just because they are Mormon IS bigotry - just as it is to hate and judge people just because they belong to any other faith or group, be they Muslim, Catholic, Evangelical or Atheist.

    I grew up Mormon but have cut my own path as adult. I was born in Utah but I did not grow up in Utah and I met many people who thought it was quite all right to act hateful and even violently toward Mormons. I know this because I was on the receiving end of a good deal of that violence.

    They were wrong and you are wrong - just as those Mormons who hate someone because they are gay or whatever are wrong.

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  36. Anonymous4:09 AM

    I dunno..."feminist Mormon" seems so like an oxymoron.

    Funny how, when they find this kind of success, Mormons tend to "revise" their thinking.

    Might as well drop out of the cult, you think?

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  37. I went to the link and read this story. I can't fathom why people would think that woman shouldn't have a abortion when her life is at risk. Especially when she has other children that need her. If she is married or has a significant other, is suppose to be ok for her to die and leave them heartbroken and left to try to raise the children on their own? Or if she is single, now other family members have to be found that would be willing to raise them, or they have to go to an orphanage? Is that what they want?

    I also went to the link that talked about his aunt's death when she went to have a illegal abortion before we had Roe vs Wade. His aunt died of sepsis. That is a blood infection that often occured with those abortions due to instruments not being properly sanitized. Most women did not die back then from hemorrhaging like most people think. They died of sepsis. A infection that could even most likely be treated with antibiotics, but they couldn't even get that since they would be charged with murder. So women died. They died stupid, needless deaths.

    And pro-lifers want to go back to that?

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  38. Anonymous6:35 AM

    Big Juicy for President: Run Broad Run.

    Toad the Pimp for Vice President: Hump Toad Hump.

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  39. Anonymous6:41 AM

    Bill of Wasilla, on the whole I agree with your points. But I do feel you were a little harsh with Anon9:12pm.

    She is right to be very careful about Mormon males who approach her for sexual or romantic purposes. Until the Mormon church deletes Doctrine & Covenant Section 132 the mind-set of most Mormon men is that having ONE wife is only a temporary condition, and that they are righteously entitled to their own celestial harem.

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  40. @NextChapter. "I can't fathom why people would think that woman shouldn't have a abortion when her life is at risk."

    I agree, but I think the Roman Catholic Church's position is that you can't have an abortion to save your own life. And that a doctor in the delivery room forced to choose between the lives of mother and child, must choose the child's life. So apparently much of the world can fathom this position.

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  41. Anonymous8:34 AM

    Congrats, Mitt. You're an even greater dickhead than I'd pegged you as previously.

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  42. Anonymous @ 6:41:

    Agnostic though I now am, I am a descendant of Mormon polygamists and was once a Mormon male in the dating world and I can assure you that so strict were the teachings of the church in which I grew up in regard to sex and the treatment of the opposite sex, and so dire the afterlife punishments laid out before me should I violate those teachings, coupled with the very real threat of excommunication in this life, that anyone who dated me was unbearably safe.

    Yes, there may be aberrant Mormon ames here and there who are a danger to those who date them. They might believe that one day they might have multiple wives in the next life, but they also believe that one way to forever disqualify themselves for that pleasure is to have sex in this life with any woman that they are not legally married to.

    What you are engaged in here is fear mongering. Whether you mean them to or not, your words help to justify hatred in the minds of bigoted and hateful people.

    Anonymous at 4:09: I will agree that Mormons started out as a cult, but so did every other organized religious sect. "Cult" is how religious sects are born.

    Today, Mormons are no more a cult than are Catholics or any other organized religion.

    PS: In case there is any doubt, I absolutely do not want to see Mitt Romney or any of his fellow nomination chasers become president. I campaigned and voted for Barack Obama last time and traveled to DC from Wasilla to attend his inauguration.

    I will vote for him again.

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  43. No More, Mon10:19 AM

    "So what we learn here is that Mitt Romney was once such a pro-life zealot that he attempted to convince a woman to sacrifice her life..."

    Oh, no ... it's worse than that.

    Mitt totally lied about being pro-choice just to get elected, right ?

    So, he'd be just as likely to lie about being pro-life just to rise within the Mormon Church.

    Until this moment, I didn't realize there's something even worse than being pro-life but there is:

    I THINK MITT DOESN'T GIVE A RIP ONE WAY OR THE OTHER !

    It's just like Perry and the executions in Texas ...

    "Ah, let 'em live, let 'em die ... What do I care so long as I get MINE ?"

    Also ... sadly, Ms. Dushku's horror story -- and far worse -- are everyday occurrences in the Mormon church.

    And I say that based on research, NOT religious bigotry.

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  44. Gasman11:15 AM

    Mittens is SO fucked.

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  45. Bill of Wasilla12:51 PM

    No more

    My research was half of my life so far and I did many battles with those in authority and so did my sister, who faced something equally bad and in some ways worse than the story that Ms. Dushku told of someone else.

    What you say you have researched, I have lived.

    I do not and cannot attend Mormon services anymore.

    None of this justifies the kind of hatred and bigotry that some who come here seems to think the words "Mitt Romney" and "Mormon" justifies - no more so than the words "terrorist" and "Sharia" justifies bigotry and hatred toward Muslims.

    Please note that Dushku remains an active Mormon and that, if not embraced by all, her literature is none-the-less held in esteem by a significant number of Mormons.

    Some here see her words as justification to hate, but she herself does not espouse hatred.

    Remember me if you will and keep your eyes and ears open in the future. If things go as I plan, my next book will be set in Hindu India and I also have a big Arctic Slope project underway, but another book that I am working on and that has caught an important eye in the publishing world is a Mormon-based book.

    No one has told the Mormn story I know. No one has made a book anything like this one. When it is complete, read it and learn. It will be easy to read, too, because there will be lots of pictures.

    Now I am done commenting. Not because I flee from the battle but because it just takes up too much time and I have too much to do.

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  46. How insignificant, unimportant and what a slap in the face that poor women and her husband had to endure at the words of Mitt.

    Why should any woman have to receive permission to save her life?
    In essence Mitt told that woman that she was not important enough to save.

    I wonder how many men would stand for that type of religion?

    This was not a whim for this woman and her husband. She and her husband were most likely grieving for that unborn child and to have an insensitive clod add to that is pathetic.

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