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Friday, May 04, 2012
Well I guess I was wrong, because you certainly can't argue with logic like this.
Yeah. just where did rocks evolve from?
Totally blows the theory of evolution out of the water.
And hey, that's another thing! What did water evolve from?
Ooh, now my brains all hurty inside. Is it time for church yet?
I believe in intelligent design. But not by a god. We are an alien kid's science fair project, lol. They are having alot of laughs watching us fuck up this world and ourselves.
I see God playing "Sims". He starts the game rolling and then lets it play out randomly. And here we are: randomly playing out our existence until we override the equilibrium, laze around in our sumptuous digs, but forget to put out the garbage regularly and finally just crumble into nothingness again.
Now you're the kind of christian I like to talk to. If you're an ID'er then you would probably know something about irreducible complexity wouldn't you? This is where it gets interesting because you ID'ers try to outscience science. You see christian friend, you should stick to the simple stuff as was posted because when you get into ID you get into deeper water than you can handle.
A hint for you: Lose the ID stuff and just be a christian. The ID stuff is just going to cause you to run down a lot of dead end streets. That's a friendly warning christian!
Obviously evolution can produce such stupidity. We've got pastors like the guy from yesterday, people who watch Snooki, and anyone who lives in a trailer voting Republican.
Hey, not all people who live in a trailers vote for the tea taliban rethugagains.
Where I recently lived, my last voting district included part of an upper class suburban area in Minnesota.
Old and new monied people who live in huge estates also vote for the tea republicans, as they voted for Reagan, elder and son Bush, McCain and shudder, Tom Emmer for Minnesota's tea taliban governor in the last election.
I didn't say everyone living in a trailer votes Republican. I said anyone living in a trailer voting Republican. I get crap like that forwarded to me from a guy living in Alaska, he's moving to Oregon, so you guys up there will have one less derp to deal with.
1. If creationism is authentic, why don't men have an odd number of ribs? 2. How does anything explain angels, miracles, demon possession, etc? 3. If all life evolved from rocks and lightening...WTF? That's a new one on me.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard on creationism.
Oh, Gryphen, you and your obsession with Science... Why cant you just admit that you EVIL-ooshunists are simply wrong and that your precious Science is just a worthless house of cards about to tumble down?
Scholars at Jerry Failwell's Libertary College have PROVEN that Science is a hoax by posing the following questions that Science CAN NEVER ANSWER!
1) If Cheetos evolved from Fritos, as Science claims, why is there no evidence of a transitional snack chip with the satisfying heft of the Frito combined with the cheddary goodness of the Cheeto? 2) How does Science explain the Miracle of Jesus' Left Sandal? (If you read your bible, Gryphen, you'll recall this is the amazing fact that Jesus' left sandal always smelled of fresh lilacs and pita bread even tho his right sandal was reported to be rather whiffy...) 3) Why can't Science explain the ice cream "head freeze", which the bible teaches us is caused by very, very, very cold and very tiny, angry demons? (ok, this one was explained recently in USA Today, so I might have to concede the point...) 4) If Science is so smart, how does it explain the fact that leftovers from the Last Supper stayed fresh for almost a year, centuries before the invention of refrigeration and tupperware? 5) How does Science explain that the bible was written in flawless American thousands of years before Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci miracled his tiny canoe, the Topo Gigio, across the English Channel and up the Saint Lawrence River?
Convinced yet? Your Science is powerless to answer any of these question while Religion answers them all without breaking a sweat: it's simply god's will.
You see, Gryphen, what you and your godless Bolshevik blog buddies will never understand is that your precious Science NEVER has all the answers but Religion ALWAYS has all the answers. Cant you understand that "ALWAYS" is better than "NEVER"???
In closing, let me offer a comforting quote from the good book: "Science! What is it good for? Huh! Absolutely nothing! Say it again!" Chamelians 51:50
Otherwise, to get rid of that creationist bull droppings in my head from the post/poster/poser (I don't mean you Gryphen), I felt the need to go and read some of PZ Myers.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula
Yet, all in the same thread, you saved my sanity. Big Minnesota bear hug to you. If that's too intimate, like an air kiss, an air hug.
Heh, Paul from Minnesota, nice to know there are people in my area who 'get it'. We got our own brand of crazy here in the midwest, Jesse Ventura, bat-shit crazy Michelle, the crazy driving Amy S. and then AMEN, you got Al Franken, who at first I thought might be a f-up, but has really proven himself to be a good Senator. And I just heard Obama is coming to Minn. on June 1---see you there! --'sconny gal! Thanks to Gryphen for all you do.
Beldar, you slay me! (in a good way) This is, by far, one of your best, and you managed to do it without citing "Urero"!
I could imagine Fr Guido Sarducci asking
"How does Science explain that the bible was written in flawless American thousands of years before Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci miracled his tiny canoe, the Topo Gigio, across the English Channel and up the Saint Lawrence River?
And I'm going to make that cheeto missing link if it kills me!
I had one of those Assemblies of Jesus freaks pose the same argument about monkeys. My reply to this dimwit was one word "species". There are many, many different species of monkeys. One of those species, evolved into humans. The others did not. She couldn't refute the statement.
Keep in mind this idiot had the nerve to tell me that God hates divorce (I'm divorced) because it's in the Bible. She's married to a divorced man who left his wife for her. The stupidity...it burns!
It's a little more complicated/ simpler than that. Yes I know that sounds nuts but both are true depending on context.
To keep it simple, we didn't 'evolve FROM monkeys'. When people say that say in return; 'Look you need to actually find out what the theory actually says. We didn't evolve FROM monkeys at all. Simply put; all primates evolved from a COMMON ANCESTOR. In fact; we share a common ancestor with EVERY species on the planet so you might as well discuss how different we are from the common sea scallop instead of an ape! It's simply that we share a much much more recent common ancestor with other primates than we do with other families of animals.'
Or similar of course. I don't want to put words in your mouth! I've noticed that in the US most people that support evolution still have the incorrect idea that we evolved from a monkey when the idea is very incorrect and misleading. Apart from the main issue I addressed above, there's also the issue that monkeys are inaccurate since its primates not specifically monkeys we share a common ancestor with. Monkeys are tailed primates so the wrong type altogether. Really the fail by creationists with this meme is truly monumental!
I hope this doesn't read as an attack; I just like to set people straight so as to hopefully one day see the end of that inaccurate idea!
Way to stupid a post by Rekesh S if he was serious. I think he is actually arguing for science but sarcasm can sure make a person look stupid on the web. Of course there is evolution,everything is in flux. Men and women have the same number ribs. The Big Bang is the same as an "instant " creation. Of course there is the constant of matter and energy thus science proves the existence of one particle with two possibilities thus this tangible world and energy dimensions... Heaven and Earth No scientific contradiction here. Peoples thoughts .... well... are in a constant state of evolution. !
I think they're really a Poe and pointing out creationist stupidity. I THINK! Hard to tell these days. He's either a funny Poe or literally the dumbest person to ever make an 'argument' for Creationism. And that's some mighty horse race believe me.
This is proof that the Republicans want to dumb down whatever is left of our public education system. If they can keep their electorate stupid, those people will believe anything that they are told.
It actually does take time and trouble to learn things. Or, to quote GWB, "Is our children learning?" There's no trick to remaining dumb; it's easy-- stay lazy. Learning requires paying attention, listening, reading, studying, being open to new ideas, and wanting to spend the time improving one's self. It's hard work. It gets harder the more that one studies and advances to college or post graduate work.
It would be useless to explain that out of a corn field of regular size ears, the farmer might want to collect the kernels from the biggest ear of corn with the sweeter kernels (the genetic mutation). If he keeps planting those selected seeds, always picking the largest, sweetest corn, that's the same thing that nature does in selecting the strong or most adapted form.He might even try to find the biggest, sweets corn that is also disease-resistant. Even thinking about this idea makes some people get a head ache. Learning is hard work. It is easier to stay dumb and try to bluff your way through life-- like some of our favorite politicians and wannabe-celebrities do.
The Republicans laugh at a college education (What a snob!). They want to gut education. Their enemies are teachers, information and a thinking electorate. They aren't interested in knowing how a rock or water got to our planet. They want to keep people dumb. (Recently, scientists have discovered that comets contain ice crystals, and during the Earth's formation, when it was bombarded with comets and meteors, that could account for some of the water. When they study the water at the deepest parts of the Earth, it is different from water near the surface, formed as a result of chemical reactions. Hmmm. We are still learning-- but the Republicans are making it harder and harder).
That was obviously created for very uninformed and stupid people. Unfortunately it has a large audience in America. It's not even up to a standard that's worth commenting on.
When they start to try to use their (pseudo)science against science is when it gets a little bit interesting. Such as their tactic of trying to make science work for them in their 'Intelligent Design' fantasies.
If you want to elevate the level of the conversation on the topic then get some of that going. Otherwise it's nothing but boring references to simple stupidity amongst the kristyun crowd.
However, consider whether or not it's a time to start bashing kristyun fantasies and beliefs. Consider that in the US the majority are going to be turned off. So the point is, if it's for political gain you may be working with a losing tactic.
Just like you are with the homosexual schtick now.
Jesse, if you aren't familiar with this amazing man, here is just a little of his teachings. I find him fascinating to listen to and certainly am left with some deep thought.
Can we give this asshat a "Darwin Award" notable mention? And the two people who "liked" him lobotomies? As much as I love Darwin's theory, it's misinterpreted.
Why did all the species of Dinosaurs become extinct, and why do we have bones to prove they were here in the first place? Is there a believable "creationist" reason? Why did they become extinct at different times? And others at the same time as other groups?(Carbon Dating) Are all species of Apes accounted for? Is it possible some became extinct?
Everything's Evil vs Good with these folks. EVIL lution. Wonder what think tank he got that from?
I'd rather take a leap of reason than a leap of faith anyday.
Where did God come from, and can he make a rock bigger than he can roll?
ReplyDeleteI believe in intelligent design.
ReplyDeleteBut not by a god. We are an alien kid's science fair project, lol.
They are having alot of laughs watching us fuck up this world and ourselves.
I see God playing "Sims". He starts the game rolling and then lets it play out randomly. And here we are: randomly playing out our existence until we override the equilibrium, laze around in our sumptuous digs, but forget to put out the garbage regularly and finally just crumble into nothingness again.
DeleteNow you're the kind of christian I like to talk to. If you're an ID'er then you would probably know something about irreducible complexity wouldn't you? This is where it gets interesting because you ID'ers try to outscience science. You see christian friend, you should stick to the simple stuff as was posted because when you get into ID you get into deeper water than you can handle.
DeleteA hint for you: Lose the ID stuff and just be a christian. The ID stuff is just going to cause you to run down a lot of dead end streets. That's a friendly warning christian!
Wanna talk about it? I would be delighted!
Did you read past intelligent design?
DeleteWhat are you talking about? Where did I say i was a christian? Are you responding to the wrong person???
Obviously evolution can produce such stupidity. We've got pastors like the guy from yesterday, people who watch Snooki, and anyone who lives in a trailer voting Republican.
ReplyDeleteHey, not all people who live in a trailers vote for the tea taliban rethugagains.
DeleteWhere I recently lived, my last voting district included part of an upper class suburban area in Minnesota.
Old and new monied people who live in huge estates also vote for the tea republicans, as they voted for Reagan, elder and son Bush, McCain and shudder, Tom Emmer for Minnesota's tea taliban governor in the last election.
I didn't say everyone living in a trailer votes Republican. I said anyone living in a trailer voting Republican. I get crap like that forwarded to me from a guy living in Alaska, he's moving to Oregon, so you guys up there will have one less derp to deal with.
Delete1. If creationism is authentic, why don't men have an odd number of ribs?
ReplyDelete2. How does anything explain angels, miracles, demon possession, etc?
3. If all life evolved from rocks and lightening...WTF? That's a new one on me.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard on creationism.
Oh, Gryphen, you and your obsession with Science... Why cant you just admit that you EVIL-ooshunists are simply wrong and that your precious Science is just a worthless house of cards about to tumble down?
ReplyDeleteScholars at Jerry Failwell's Libertary College have PROVEN that Science is a hoax by posing the following questions that Science CAN NEVER ANSWER!
1) If Cheetos evolved from Fritos, as Science claims, why is there no evidence of a transitional snack chip with the satisfying heft of the Frito combined with the cheddary goodness of the Cheeto?
2) How does Science explain the Miracle of Jesus' Left Sandal? (If you read your bible, Gryphen, you'll recall this is the amazing fact that Jesus' left sandal always smelled of fresh lilacs and pita bread even tho his right sandal was reported to be rather whiffy...)
3) Why can't Science explain the ice cream "head freeze", which the bible teaches us is caused by very, very, very cold and very tiny, angry demons? (ok, this one was explained recently in USA Today, so I might have to concede the point...)
4) If Science is so smart, how does it explain the fact that leftovers from the Last Supper stayed fresh for almost a year, centuries before the invention of refrigeration and tupperware?
5) How does Science explain that the bible was written in flawless American thousands of years before Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci miracled his tiny canoe, the Topo Gigio, across the English Channel and up the Saint Lawrence River?
Convinced yet? Your Science is powerless to answer any of these question while Religion answers them all without breaking a sweat: it's simply god's will.
You see, Gryphen, what you and your godless Bolshevik blog buddies will never understand is that your precious Science NEVER has all the answers but Religion ALWAYS has all the answers. Cant you understand that "ALWAYS" is better than "NEVER"???
In closing, let me offer a comforting quote from the good book:
"Science! What is it good for? Huh! Absolutely nothing! Say it again!"
Chamelians 51:50
"Cheetos from Fritos". Beldar, thanks for my laugh of the morning!
DeleteI feel that the saddest part may be that he got two "like"s out of this.
Delete:)
DeleteYay, thank you for your comment.
Otherwise, to get rid of that creationist bull droppings in my head from the post/poster/poser (I don't mean you Gryphen), I felt the need to go and read some of PZ Myers.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula
Yet, all in the same thread, you saved my sanity. Big Minnesota bear hug to you. If that's too intimate, like an air kiss, an air hug.
:)
Ooh! Cheetos combined with Fritos sounds "heavenly! "
DeleteHeh, Paul from Minnesota, nice to know there are people in my area who 'get it'.
DeleteWe got our own brand of crazy here in the midwest, Jesse Ventura, bat-shit crazy Michelle, the crazy driving Amy S. and then
AMEN, you got Al Franken, who at first I thought might be a f-up, but has really proven himself to be a good Senator.
And I just heard Obama is coming to Minn. on June 1---see you there!
--'sconny gal!
Thanks to Gryphen for all you do.
I can't run no more with that godless crowd, while the killers in high places say their prayers outloud. Ex Cat
DeleteClassic humor! Hoping it's your own?
DeleteBeldar, you slay me! (in a good way) This is, by far, one of your best, and you managed to do it without citing "Urero"!
DeleteI could imagine Fr Guido Sarducci asking
"How does Science explain that the bible was written in flawless American thousands of years before Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci miracled his tiny canoe, the Topo Gigio, across the English Channel and up the Saint Lawrence River?
And I'm going to make that cheeto missing link if it kills me!
Thanks for making my day, love your comments!
Evolution is "just" a "theory" same as Gravity is just a theory. shh don't you get it?
ReplyDeleteI had one of those Assemblies of Jesus freaks pose the same argument about monkeys. My reply to this dimwit was one word "species". There are many, many different species of monkeys. One of those species, evolved into humans. The others did not. She couldn't refute the statement.
ReplyDeleteKeep in mind this idiot had the nerve to tell me that God hates divorce (I'm divorced) because it's in the Bible. She's married to a divorced man who left his wife for her. The stupidity...it burns!
It's a little more complicated/ simpler than that. Yes I know that sounds nuts but both are true depending on context.
DeleteTo keep it simple, we didn't 'evolve FROM monkeys'. When people say that say in return; 'Look you need to actually find out what the theory actually says. We didn't evolve FROM monkeys at all. Simply put; all primates evolved from a COMMON ANCESTOR. In fact; we share a common ancestor with EVERY species on the planet so you might as well discuss how different we are from the common sea scallop instead of an ape! It's simply that we share a much much more recent common ancestor with other primates than we do with other families of animals.'
Or similar of course. I don't want to put words in your mouth! I've noticed that in the US most people that support evolution still have the incorrect idea that we evolved from a monkey when the idea is very incorrect and misleading. Apart from the main issue I addressed above, there's also the issue that monkeys are inaccurate since its primates not specifically monkeys we share a common ancestor with. Monkeys are tailed primates so the wrong type altogether. Really the fail by creationists with this meme is truly monumental!
I hope this doesn't read as an attack; I just like to set people straight so as to hopefully one day see the end of that inaccurate idea!
Way to stupid a post by Rekesh S if he was serious. I think he is actually arguing for science but sarcasm can sure make a person look stupid on the web. Of course there is evolution,everything is in flux. Men and women have the same number ribs. The Big Bang is the same as an "instant " creation. Of course there is the constant of matter and energy thus science proves the existence of one particle with two possibilities thus this tangible world and energy dimensions... Heaven and Earth No scientific contradiction here. Peoples thoughts .... well... are in a constant state of evolution. !
ReplyDeleteBAAAWAAAWWWWAAAHHHHHHH
ReplyDeleteThis idiot really thinks men have an extra rib, I am shocked beyond belief.
I think they're really a Poe and pointing out creationist stupidity. I THINK! Hard to tell these days. He's either a funny Poe or literally the dumbest person to ever make an 'argument' for Creationism. And that's some mighty horse race believe me.
DeleteAnd THAT'S why creationists don't believe in evolution:
ReplyDelete...they don't understand it at all.
Science is certain of nothing & requires proof of everything. Faith is certain of everything & requires proof of nothing.
ReplyDeleteGotta remember that. It's good. REAL good!
DeleteYes, makes hurty brain. On the other hand, renders "intelligent design" an impossibility.
ReplyDeleteThis is proof that the Republicans want to dumb down whatever is left of our public education system. If they can keep their electorate stupid, those people will believe anything that they are told.
ReplyDeleteIt actually does take time and trouble to learn things. Or, to quote GWB, "Is our children learning?" There's no trick to remaining dumb; it's easy-- stay lazy. Learning requires paying attention, listening, reading, studying, being open to new ideas, and wanting to spend the time improving one's self. It's hard work. It gets harder the more that one studies and advances to college or post graduate work.
It would be useless to explain that out of a corn field of regular size ears, the farmer might want to collect the kernels from the biggest ear of corn with the sweeter kernels (the genetic mutation). If he keeps planting those selected seeds, always picking the largest, sweetest corn, that's the same thing that nature does in selecting the strong or most adapted form.He might even try to find the biggest, sweets corn that is also disease-resistant. Even thinking about this idea makes some people get a head ache. Learning is hard work. It is easier to stay dumb and try to bluff your way through life-- like some of our favorite politicians and wannabe-celebrities do.
The Republicans laugh at a college education (What a snob!). They want to gut education. Their enemies are teachers, information and a thinking electorate. They aren't interested in knowing how a rock or water got to our planet. They want to keep people dumb. (Recently, scientists have discovered that comets contain ice crystals, and during the Earth's formation, when it was bombarded with comets and meteors, that could account for some of the water. When they study the water at the deepest parts of the Earth, it is different from water near the surface, formed as a result of chemical reactions. Hmmm. We are still learning-- but the Republicans are making it harder and harder).
That was obviously created for very uninformed and stupid people. Unfortunately it has a large audience in America. It's not even up to a standard that's worth commenting on.
ReplyDeleteWhen they start to try to use their (pseudo)science against science is when it gets a little bit interesting. Such as their tactic of trying to make science work for them in their 'Intelligent Design' fantasies.
If you want to elevate the level of the conversation on the topic then get some of that going. Otherwise it's nothing but boring references to simple stupidity amongst the kristyun crowd.
However, consider whether or not it's a time to start bashing kristyun fantasies and beliefs. Consider that in the US the majority are going to be turned off. So the point is, if it's for political gain you may be working with a losing tactic.
Just like you are with the homosexual schtick now.
It's turtles all the way down.
ReplyDeleteJesse, if you aren't familiar with this amazing man, here is just a little of his teachings. I find him fascinating to listen to and certainly am left with some deep thought.
ReplyDeleteMiceal Ledwith, Ph.D on God, Science & Religion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3dtxIyClM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTuv90PiLbg
Wow, this is a better read than Craigslist personals!
ReplyDeleteCan I mention that men don't have one less rib than women? They have the same number of ribs.
ReplyDeleteWe also didn't evolve from monkeys.
You just can't use facts to fight the ignorance of these fanatics. Nothing you say will have any effect.
Excellent read on evolution..
ReplyDeletehttp://scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts/2008/07/why_are_there_still_monkeys.php
http://www.facebook.com/GSHMP/info
ReplyDeleteCan we give this asshat a "Darwin Award" notable mention? And the two people who "liked" him lobotomies? As much as I love Darwin's theory, it's misinterpreted.
ReplyDeleteWhy did all the species of Dinosaurs become extinct, and why do we have bones to prove they were here in the first place? Is there a believable "creationist" reason? Why did they become extinct at different times? And others at the same time as other groups?(Carbon Dating) Are all species of Apes accounted for? Is it possible some became extinct?
Everything's Evil vs Good with these folks. EVIL lution. Wonder what think tank he got that from?
I'd rather take a leap of reason than a leap of faith anyday.