Sunday, July 08, 2012

In effort to demystify it, woman shares the story of her abortion. Which inspires me to share mine.

Here is one woman's story:  

Recently, I had an abortion. 

Lining the street in front of the clinic were a dozen or so protesters. They held up large banners with anti-abortion slogans, religious iconography, and images of dead babies. 

Just past the bulletproof security doors, the graphic nature of that imagery haunted me in the waiting room. What would my abortion look like? I decided to secretly document my abortion with my cell phone. My intention in documenting and sharing my abortion is to demystify the sensationalist images propagated by the religious and political right on this matter. The perverse use of lifeless fetus photographs are a propaganda tool in the prolife/prochoice debate in which women and their bodies are used as pawns to push a cultural, political, and religious agenda in the United States. 

At 6 weeks of pregnancy, my abortion looked very different than the images I saw when I entered the clinic that day. 

This is my abortion.

This woman did indeed take pictures with her cell phone, and if you wish to see them you can click here. (As it turns out I was too concerned about upsetting some of you to post them on this blog.)

If you are like me this may be the first time that you have ever witnessed what an abortion looks like. Not nearly as horrific as you probably imagined is it? As a matter of fact it seems considerably less disturbing than MOST medical procedures that I have witnessed. In the end I guess it is simply the removal of tissue, nothing more.

As I am sure all of you already know, or have simply assumed, I am pro-choice. However that of course does not mean I promote the idea of abortion.  In fact I have very strong, and very mixed, feelings about it.

So I thought, after reading this young woman's very blunt description of her experience, that I would share with you my experience with abortion.

Now I am of course a male so I have never had an abortion, nor to my knowledge has any pregnancy that I was responsible for ended in abortion, so I do not have an actually abortion story of that type to share. But that does not mean I have never been touched by the issue of abortion.

Because I have. And here is that story.



When I was a junior in high school I often spent time that I did not wish to spend in class in the school's library. I loved the library and felt I learned far more there than I did attending the actual classes. (Yes I graduated.)

On this day I was reading one of my favorite books on animal behavior (I was still planning to be a veterinarian in those days), when I heard this quiet sobbing coming from one of the cubicles set off to the side.

At first I tried to ignore it (Not my business away) but soon it had increased in volume and became impossible to ignore. So I got up to investigate.

I soon came upon a girl who I recognized from a couple of classes we had shared over the years, but did not know that well. Her eyes were red and puffy, and tears flowed down her cheeks in great torrents of despair.

Her sobs had reached a volume which had begun to attract attention from some of the other library visitors, including the clearly irritated librarian. Somehow I knew that she did not want to talk about whatever was upsetting her so much, so I asked her if she wanted to go outside, away from prying eyes.

She stood up and I grabbed her books and started walking her toward the exit. (There are a couple of things about my high school experience which are not exactly typical, but I don't feel this is the proper time to expand on that. Let's just say that I essentially had the freedom to come and go as I pleased with very little concern from the faculty.)

As we walked to the door she leaned into me and began to cry even harder than before. By the time we reached my car parked outside she had increased the volume to the point that I really began to fear that somebody might think I was doing her some sort of harm.

Once safety inside of my Toyota she continued to cry in the most pitiful manner I have ever heard. To this day I have never witnessed such anguish.

I had a box of tissues in my car and I handed it to her. She took it from my hand and clutched it to her chest as if to find some comfort, and continued rocking back and forth and crying until I thought she would never stop.

I know what you are thinking, "You should have asked her what was wrong." But in fact you are incorrect, in her state she could never have formed the words to tell me, and somehow I knew that she did not want to talk about it. She just needed a safe place to cry.

So I sat there, and sat there, and sat there. Thirty minutes, forty five minutes, probably closer to sixty minutes before the wailing became quiet sobbing.

The contents of the tissue box, which had been almost completely full, lay crumpled around her feet almost up to her ankles. As she sat next to me she was still miles away in her pain, but she had started to furtively glance in my direction like a frightened animal. Slowly her shoulders began to relax, and soon she seemed empty and drained of emotion, almost like a discarded wrapper with the contents removed.

Finally she spoke, "I'm okay now."

"Okay," I said. Then we went back into the building just in time for our next class.

I never asked her what was wrong, and she didn't tell me.  And to my eighteen year old mind, it really didn't matter.

I think I already kind of knew I was going to find out eventually.  And I did, about five days later.

This time she was standing in the hallway in front of her locker.

The world swirled past her, in the kind of frenetic energy which only seems present in hallways stuffed full of pubescent teens, but she was almost perfectly still. Only her shoulders were moving. Shaking really.

None of the dozens of students filing by noticed her at all, they simply could not see her as their lives demanded their constant attention, but I had seen those shoulders before.

So I stopped and stood next to her. After a few minutes she seemed to finally realize she wasn't alone, and looked at me with those now familiar red rimmed eyes.

"Can we?" She whispered.

"Of course." And with that we worked our way through the phalanx of sweaty teenagers until we were once again sitting in my little green Toyota, a fresh box of tissues at the ready.

This time her crying did not attain the same volume as before, but she still managed to make an impressive dent in that tissue box.

And this time she found her voice. It took her awhile, and her frightened eyes flitted across my face for signs of disgust or judgement as she spoke, but there were none.  In the end the story was one that high school kids often hear whispered about in the locker room, or twittered about by clutches of suddenly holier than thou teenage girls. Nothing new really, she was pregnant.

Her on again, off again boyfriend, a friend of mine, was the father.  When I had seen her that day in the library she had just told him, and he had reacted badly. First essentially challenging that it was his, and then telling her to "take care of it."

She had been unable to tell her parents, and in fact I was now only the third person to even know. She didn't know what to do. At eighteen I did not feel that it was my place to offer advice, so I just listened.

As we left the confines of my little green confessional booth, she suddenly clutched my arm. "Jesse, please don't tell anybody."

I told her I wouldn't.

And I never did.

I guess it was about two days later, maybe more than that, when she approached me.

"Can you cut class?" Silly question, of COURSE I could cut class.

"Can you give me a ride tomorrow after lunch?" I agreed, though she did not explain where we were going. I'm pretty sure I knew.

After lunch that next day she sat in silence as we drove, only occasionally pointing to where I needed to turn.  After we arrived, she spoke for the first time. "Can you wait out here? I think I'll be okay, but I need a ride back."

Once again my answer was "Of course." After all SOMEBODY needed to be there.

I had a Stephen King book if I remember correctly, so I sat outside and waited. I don't recall how long, but it did not seem as long as I anticipated.

I caught the opening of the door out of the corner of my eye, and for the first time realized how tiny she was, and how alone. She walked stiffly toward the car and took each step gingerly, as if walking over ice even though the parking lot was clear.

I got out and opened her door (My mother would have been so proud) and once back inside we sat for a few moments in silence. There were probably things that should have been said, but I realized I did not know what any of them might be, so I did what I had done before, and simply sat quietly, feeling woefully unprepared for this situation.

After a few minutes (She had been quietly sobbing again) she said "Okay," and I started the car.

We drove without talking, listening to the radio, and looking everywhere but at each other.

At the school we went our separate ways, once again without talking, though she did stop at the entrance to take my hand before leaning in and resting her head on my shoulder. She was there just for a moment, just long enough to leave a single tear stain. And then she was gone.

We never spoke of that day, not once.  We did have classes together, and even saw each other in social gatherings having to do with school activities, but never a word was spoken of that day.

She and the boy continued seeing each other for a few more months, until he cheated on her and they finally broke up.

Somebody in the church they both attended apparently found out and offered counseling which essentially turned out to be sessions of shaming (One of her friends told me about this.), which she bravely endured until she simply could not, and then she, and her now brought up to speed parents, left the church altogether. She seemed much happier in her new place of worship.

The boy stayed on in the church never the worse for wear. As did his parents, who apparently were the source of the money used to "take care of it." (Give yourself an extra point if you figured out that this church was probably homophobe extraordinaire Jerry Prevo's Anchorage Baptist Temple, because it was indeed.)

Like I said this is not really MY story of abortion, I was really not much more than an observer, however it is the story I always think of when somebody talks about doing away with sex education or slashing federal funding for Planned Parenthood.

To answer your next question, no the girl and I never had any kind of romantic relationship beyond a simple friendship.  We were different kinds of people and I was at that time kind of working my way through the cheer leading squad if I remember correctly.

You have to keep in mind that I may have had brief episodes of sensitivity, but I was still just an eighteen year old kid.

One more thing, my mother gave birth to me when she was fifteen years old, after the local football hero knocked her up at fourteen. After this episode at school, I started to imagine how much better my mother's life might have been if she had simply opted to end HER pregnancy. At this time in her life she was working very hard, trapped in a loveless second marriage, and was struggling with health problems.

I was such a coward that I could not bring myself to ask my mother that question until I was well into my thirties. "Mom, do you ever wish that you hadn't gotten pregnant, or that you had simply taken the abortion route? I mean you could have been the homecoming queen, and probably married to some rich guy now."

She looked at me for a moment and said, "No I loved becoming a mother, and never regretted a moment of it."  Then she paused, "Would have kind of liked a shot at that rich guy though. But with you three holy terrors scaring off all of the GOOD men THAT was certainly never going to happen now was it?"

Yep that's my mom!

So I guess the point of this post, at least MY portion, is to illustrate both perspectives from one male's point of view. Both my high school friend and my mother made the decision that they felt was best for them. A decision, let's not forget, that is not always accessible to many women around the world, or even here in America.

They both have undoubtedly had reason to regret their decision, but it was THEIR decision to make. And none of us, myself included even when it comes to my own mother, have the right to tell them what decision they must make concerning own bodies. Or the potential for life growing within. Period!

96 comments:

  1. WOW Jesse....just WOW! You're an alright guy. Does the girl...who is a woman now...does she still live in Alaska? Have you ever seen her after this encounter?

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  2. Chenagrrl10:12 AM

    Good story Gryphen, all young women should be so lucky. Young women from your high school days should be grateful for the public health nurses from Fairbanks who campaigned for Alaska's bill for clean surgery. The number of women found with hangars attached in the woods around town has greatly diminished. I greatly fear, that we are headed for some harsh lessons of history on abortion. The gang that doesn't understand that it will go on -- no matter has a gained serious toehold in many states.

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    1. Anonymous7:01 PM

      Please tweet this out.
      Its driving the cons bandannas! Real pics of abortions!
      Tweet out the link too.
      Poke a stick in their flippin' eyes!

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  3. Oh, how I love you, Jesse!!

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    1. What mary b said. You're a great person, Gryph.

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    2. Anonymous4:42 PM

      Ditto on my end as well.

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  4. Anonymous10:19 AM

    Bless you Mr. G~sometimes the best thing a person can do is listen.


    Scorpie

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  5. Anonymous10:29 AM

    Powerful.

    I have had a similar experience but could not express it the way you did.

    Abortion is a hard decision, no one makes it lightly.

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    1. "Abortion is a hard decision, no one makes it lightly." That simple statement says it all yet those who think they know better actually believe the decision is made in a very casual, uncaring manner. These same idiots go so far as to claim that while they are pro-life, others are pro-abortion. I don't know anyone who would ever say they are pro-abortion, especially anyone who has made this traumatic decision.

      Jesse, what a good friend you were when someone really needed you. I hope my sons would do the same if confronted with a similar situation.

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  6. Anonymous10:38 AM

    Your blog posts just keep on getting more sensational. It's very interesting reading here to see just where your desperation is going to take you. Something is very wrong with you and that's why you are reaching out in these ways. Just be aware that there's not much shock value in it because most of the audience is with it on abortion, gay issues, your politics, etc. Even though the Palins probably don't pay attention, some rightie might. Keep up the good work!

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    1. Hi Baldy!

      Looks like somebody's dirty panties are in a bunch! As usual we can recognize the word salad.

      "Keep up the good work" of being the LAUGHING STOCK of the world! Now THAT's a title you can be proud of! LOL!!

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    2. Anonymous11:08 AM

      been off your meds long?

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    3. What an incredibly odd reply to a touching story. You give me the creeps.

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    4. angela11:10 AM

      How sad and pitiful you are--- you poor silly loon. I'd feel sorry for you but I have a feeling your misery is too deep.

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    5. AJ Billings11:21 AM

      Hey, anon @ 10:38 am, is that a THREAT?

      Are you threatening someone based on a blog?

      Typical coward though, you didn't sign your name. And you are accusing someone of desperation, when your very posting smells of fear and loathing.

      So let's see you call your self by your real name, and post your ID, if you have any guts.

      This article was well written, a great story, and was destined to bring out the Paylin worshipers.

      FUCK all the Palins except for Piper. All the rest have been abused by Chuck Sr, Todd, $arah, and who knows what other perverts.

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    6. Anonymous11:29 AM

      Just keep on thinkin I'm Sarah or one of the Palins if that pleases you. And deal with the fact that I know too that the stupid bitch faked the pregnancy for her daughter. Really Gina, reality is better for you than your hateful imagination running wild.

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    7. Anon 10:38...What is your problem? You are a very nasty person. I think you need to find another blog to make your ugly comments. These remarks don't reflect on Jesse. They merely make you look bad.

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    8. Anonymous11:57 AM

      Keep writing, Jesse.

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    9. Anonymous12:05 PM

      When I was in High School in the 50's, abortions were illegal in Montana, but every year for 4 years, 2 or 3 of the most popular girls would "disappear" for a few weeks and then return, taking up where they had left off. We all knew what was up, and talked about each girl in whispers (while they were away), but soon forgot about it. The most pitiful girl I knew was wall-flower Ann. She lived with her "older" Mom and older sister. She all-but-confirmed to me that her "sister" was her mother and her "mother" was her Grandma.
      I look back on my life and remember how nothing really mattered as long as we were happy and healthy. Last year, I received news of Ann's death. She died alone in the same house she had lived in her whole life. Even in death, her local obituary did not betray the family secret, most likely because no one really cared, Sarah.

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    10. Anonymous11:29 AM

      Awww....touched a drug infested nerve did I Baldy? And thanks for confirming that you are a "stupid bitch" that "faked the pregnancy" for Beefy! LOL!!

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    11. Anonymous 10:38
      What is the matter with you? It's almost pitiful that you have no one else to interact with so you have to come to a place where you're disliked and where no one wants to hear your vile comments.

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    12. Anonymous1:41 PM

      How pathetic, 10:38. If you want to hang with your own kind, may I suggest the sea of pee? The moderators there ban anyone that doesn't toe the line of worship to their golden calf.

      Jesse is to be commended. A variety of timely topics and he encourages healthy debate from both sides.

      CIP

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    13. Sally in MI1:47 PM

      10:38: You are truly heartless. And if Jesse is so hard to stomach when he tells the truth, why even bother reading here, let alone commenting? You will not change any minds here. We appreciate an honest exchange of ideas, something you and the rest of the Paydirt clan know nothing about.
      Thanks, Jesse, for an amazing story. That girl is to be pitied, not bullied.

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    14. Anonymous3:55 PM

      Krusty, you always have to come fuck up a good post.
      What no-one goes to your "Private" stupid fucktard blog?

      Gryphen, great story (and you could of shown the pics we don't need the babies on here like Krusty) This is a Adult/mature PG 17 blog, half the whiners her prob let their kids see worse at the show...

      How many teen boys would of done what you did...not many if any at all.
      A good deed never gets forgotten in the world of Karma...so you are due, to win the lotto or something :) Seriously that was hella nice thing to do and Lady Karma will not forget, and since Krusty barged in here, Lady Karma is also keeping track of the lies...ALL OF THEM, ANY OF THEM, coming from the lyin' lips of the Paylin clan of hillbillies...
      Keep in mind... Lennon was right, about (almost) instant Karma, coming to get ya!

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    15. Anita Winecooler10:10 PM

      10:28
      There's no shame in admitting you've got a serious mental issue, but please admit it to someone who could help, sooner is better than later. You have to live with yourself and nobody loves miserable company.

      Do it before you hurt yourself.

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  7. Anonymous10:41 AM

    I am in my 60s and was adopted as an infant. I grew up knowing I was an adoptee. In my late 20s, I met my birth family and have a great brother from them who blesses my life today. I NEVER questioned my birth mother's right to decide whether to continue her pregnancy or terminate it. Either I lived to be adopted, or, I never knew anything about life.

    That is why I am pro-choice: it is the woman/girl's right to decide whether to continue an unwanted pregnancy. It is NOT my right to force any unwanted pregnancy on some frightened female, nor is it anyone else's. And it especially is not the right of any religious nut, including Prevo and his bunch of hooligans, to force their narrow interpretation of their anti-abortion, religious beliefs on anyone else.

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  8. The girl in your car could have been me or pretty much any girl at my high school on the mid 70's. I wish sometimes those who hold an anti-choice view would consider that having the choice available doesn't mean it isn't the hardest choice, and the most regretful choice, and is hardly ever lightly made.
    You're a good man Gryphen.
    You do your daughter, your mom, and even your ex proud.

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  9. Anonymous10:46 AM

    You are a good man, Jesse Gryphen!
    Empathy is probably the greatest gift our mothers can lay into our cradles, but not always the easiest to deal with. Your silence did more good for this young woman than possibly anyone or anything before or since.

    fromthediagonal

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  10. Anonymous10:54 AM

    Incredibly moving, Jesse. Thank you.

    CIP

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  11. Anonymous11:05 AM

    I had an abortion. I had been married for seven years, had a four year-old son was looking forward to having a second child. I was really happy to be pregnant again. I was thirty-eight years old and my OGBYN doctor recommended genetic testing because of my age. I had amnio at 10 weeks, got the results 10 days later and you could have knocked me over with a feather. The baby had an extra chromosome or a marker. My husband and I scheduled the abortion for ten days later. There were nurses in attendance who didn't have a problem with abortion (there were some who didn't want to assist and I can appreciate their choice) and they were very caring. We gave the baby a name and buried him in the family cemetery plot. A year and a half later we had a third child after again having genetic testing. He turned nineteen this past spring and is starting his second year of college. He would not have been born if I had not had an abortion. I make no judgments of others' decisions. I did not make my decision lightly. I am pro CHOICE.

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    1. Anonymous5:17 AM

      I can't and won't appreciate those nurses choices. anyone who chooses to work in a field, any field, does not get impose their morality on anyone else. Imagine a waiter who won't serve alcohol, yet works in an establishment that does? Exactly how long would they last? They need to go work at a non-alcoholic establishment. Or a gas station worker who doesn't "approve" of gambling yet the place sells lottery tickets. This opens up a whole new level of class privilege for blue collar vs. white collar workers.

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  12. Karen in SoCal11:08 AM

    Anon @10:38 Just shut the fuck up, $arah.

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    1. Anonymous11:27 AM

      Please sister Karen, I'm not Sarah and I hate the dumb c-nt as much as anyone. It's just that this sensational bullshit is not serving a purpose. Jesse needs to do his homework and go to work on destroying Palin in a meaningful way. That's what's bothering him you know.
      luv from Canada.

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    2. Anonymous12:23 PM

      Just read his posts or decide that you can't handle the "sensationalism". Some of us can confront the incredible wave of emotions that result from being a part of someone else's traumatic experience, and learn that we actually help the victim cope with the situation by just being there to give them a shoulder to lean on, rather than to look down our nose and judge them when they are feeling so vulnerable.


      It's not easy being a friend or just being kind to someone that you don't know unless you can open your heart to the disappointment and anguish that the other person feels. It takes a mature, selfless individual to truly "feel someone else's pain". I have experienced such random acts of kindness myself, and it is for that reason that I believe that angels exist, if only in the hearts of others whom we would never expect to be the ones to show love toward us when our "loved ones" might turn their back in judgement.

      We are told that we should love one another, but you can't share with someone else that which you don't have in your own heart already. It's not a coincidence that many are able to react with grace and kindness to others rather than scorn and derision. Although I am agnostic, I am thankful for these "angels", and I try to be cognizant that I can react the same way in similar circumstances if I am willing to look past myself and my own needs, and view the other person's needs as most important at that moment.

      You can change the world a little for the better if you just change your own perspective.

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    3. Anonymous12:24 PM

      luvfromCanada - if you don't like what Gryhpen chooses to post on HIS blog, then leave! We will get along quite well without you and your comments. You definitely do not create a positive image as a Canadian and I'd be happy to see you gone from this site forever.

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  13. Thank you for sharing your part in that story, Gryphen.

    As you told it, it was easy to imagine the young Jesse- absolutely bursting with swagger and braggadocio, be suddenly unsure of what to say or do.

    The only, only part I would disagree with is your statement of "essentially it's just removing tissue". It IS removing tissue of course- but in the same way cutting off someone's arm is "removing tissue and bone". You can say that to make it sound as clinical as you want, but the fact is the person without the arm would have lifelong ramifications from this "tissue removal".

    The "tissue" removed in an abortion has a beating heart, all the DNA it will ever need to determine so many things about this little life- and there is the tragedy of the unknowns, too. The "tissue" removed in the six week abortion this woman wrote about could have grown into a person who cured disease or stopped wars or simply do what you did age age 18- committ a kindness toward another which may help save someone's life.

    Abortion IS a tragedy to me because of those very unknowns- If I had an abortion I feel that's the aspect I would have the hardest time coming to terms with- who might that bit of tissue turned into?

    As much as it is a tragedy, I as a Christian still support a woman's right to choose. The Bible says we are to respect the laws of our land and the fact that abortion is a legal right seems to be something most "little c christians" conveniently forget.

    I'm glad you could be there for that girl when she needed someone so badly. May all women struggling with such a heartbreaking situation find someone like you to lean on and seek comfort from.

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    1. Anonymous12:36 PM

      I became pregnant at 26, out on my own 350 miles away from my hometown. I was raised in a Christian home and knew my parents would be mortified, the "shame" in their eyes when they looked at me, "You're old enough to know better," etc. I could just picture it all and I was scared.

      I struggled and struggled with what would be right for my situation and finally decided to schedule an abortion. I never made it past the waiting room, deciding my freedom to "choose" overrode anything my parents thought and abortion was not for me. My daughter is now 27 years old.

      It is a woman's right to own her body and no one else. I would never judge anyone for their decision in such an utmost personal matter. I've been there. I know the heartbreak, the fear of the unknowns, the what-ifs. All of it.

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    2. Anonymous12:50 PM

      Thank you for this. Very well put and I very much agree.

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    3. Anonymous2:49 PM

      Well, yeah, what if the "tissue removed" had grown up to cure cancer? But what if the "tissue" grew up to become Ted Bundy? There are a million what ifs to any given situation. Truth is, we usually deal with the outcomes the best we can. Most of us will have some regrets, but essentially, we will never know what might have been, and in the end, the love you make is equal to the love you take.
      Peace ☮

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    4. Anonymous2:50 PM

      At anon 11:27 p.m.
      You are stripping the pride of Canadians by your idiotic comment. Shut the fuck up pls.
      This was a very well written article about how abortion affects both pro choice and pro life individuals. If you can't see this you need to get off this blog. This isn't all about Sarah Palin all the time.
      I'm an embarrassed Canadian from your selfish comment.

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    5. Anonymous5:30 AM

      Oh bullshit. And that look that my high school unrequited crush and I exchanged could have grown into a person too. So what? I regret my abortions no more and no less.
      No embryo grows in a human being without the investment of labor from its mother. But according to the philosopher John Locke, our bodies and the labor of them, are the one thing we have "God-given" (per Locke)rights over. The mixing of that labor with an object is what gives us a private property right in it.

      Locke's argument is the basis of the entire private property system on which capitalism rests. The SCOTUS of Roe v. Wade got that. Do away with the "God-given" right to control our own bodies, and the entire Constitution pretty much has to be re-written, otherwise slavery results. Go read Judith Jarvis Thompson's classic and excellent defense of abortion.

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    6. Anon 2:49 & 5:30

      Are you that blinded by your own self righteousness? How is it that you were able to retain and crap on my view about abortion being a tragedy due to the what-ifs and unknowns, yet somehow COMPLETELY miss where I state unequivocally that I am pro choice and support a woman's decision no matter what it may be?

      I don't need to read an "excellent defense" of abortion- I already DEFEND it, vote for pro choice candidates, and support organizations which provide assistance to women and girls dealing with this difficult, often life altering choice.


      As my dear mama used to say- git ova yo damn sef.

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    7. 2:49, disregard my including you in my above comment- I meant it only as a reply toward 5:30, not at all toward you and your thoughtful remarks. Apologies.

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  14. Anonymous11:13 AM

    "As a matter of fact it seems considerably less disturbing than MOST medical procedures that I have witnessed."

    ...or some of the blind, religious zealotry surrounding the issue for that matter.

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  15. You really are one in a million, Gryphen.

    This girl's story also speaks to a situation becoming all too common today. The laws that require a waiting period between the time a woman seeks an abortion and can actually have one (24 hours in AZ) seem to suggest that abortions are sought impulsively like buying a pack of gum at the checkout line. Lots of careful consideration and plenty of tears go into such decisions. Women can be and should be trusted to make the decisions that are right for them.

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  16. Anonymous11:22 AM

    Thanks for telling the story in such a sensitive way. There are other reasons why women consider an abortion. Even in the days before Roe v.Wade, it was a consideration when the health of the mother was at risk. There is also the situation where the woman would have to deliver a child with serious health issues. In that case, the young parents would have the burden on long term care and the risk that the child would die much earlier. The woman I know who were faced with that decision had German measles during the first three months of her pregnancy. She didn't plan the pregnancy, nor did she realize that she was pregnant until after the German measles had run their course. A compassionate doctor explained her choices since there was a great risk of giving birth to a child who would have serious health issues and require care that she could not afford. She and her husband were Catholics, and they were offered the option to terminate her pregnancy early because of her exposure to German measles. In the end, she chose to carry the baby to term, agonizing every minute of those remaining 6 months. As it turned out the child was fine, but they had to deal with the same decision that other women face-- an unwanted pregnancy that would prevent the girl from finishing her education-- and possible saddle two kids with expenses they couldn't afford-- health problems-- either the mother or the child.

    (At first I typed the words, "she chose to keep the baby." Then I changed it to read, "She chose to carry the baby to term." Keeping the baby sounded as if she had already given birth and was asked to give the baby up for adoption, or in those day, institutionalize the baby for long term care. There wasn't much insurance and there were few options. Then I realized that Bristol used those same words when she had her interview with Greta soon after Tripp was born. Bristol insisted on saying that it as her choice to keep the baby. That makes it sound as if Bristol had also been offered other options: Carry the baby to term or not, give the child up for adoption, or in case of a baby born with severe health problems-- poor eyesight, lack of hearing, a hole in his heart and developmental problems--some kind of long term care option. Hmmmm. I wonder what Bristol's choice was.

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  17. A lot of men like the idea a causing a pregnancy, even if they have no intention of supporting a baby.

    Ladies, take care of your own birth control.

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    1. Sally in MI1:53 PM

      Well, that sounds simple. Unless you are in a state run by the fundies, who want to not only deny a woman an abortion, but also contraception. What would you suggest? The old 'aspirin between the knees?" I suggest it is way past time to teach our sons to keep their pants zipped, or pay the price as well as the girl does.

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    2. Anita Winecooler11:00 PM

      What Sally said and:

      What if the birth control fails?

      STD's and AIDS?

      Some women like the idea of causing a pregnancy, even if they have no intention of supporting a baby. They target and trap men into supporting them and the baby.

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  18. More than a few of those who want to forbid abortion do so not because they are concerned with the life of the fetus as much as they are concerned with the morals of the mother. Women should not have sex until they are married. (As your story shows, the boys and men get a free pass, as always.) When you push the anti-abortionists just a little bit, you'll find that they want to ban birth control as well. Women and girls must NOT have sex, ever. Santorum came close to saying this right out loud during his Presidential campaign.

    To these extremists, childbirth is supposed to be the punishment women endure because they are the same gender as the mythological Eve. I used to work in a psychiatric hospital where, long prior to my arrival but not all that long, parents would have their daughters locked up for masturbating and men would have their wives locked up for being orgasmic.

    You were a good friend to this young women, Griffin. Every woman needs a man who can be a friend like you were.

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    1. Oh God, were those the gothic Kirkbride asylums? We had one not far from where I grew up. Family members were forever locking each other up!

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    2. You must be right, otherwise how can anyone explain the fact that the same people who are trying so hard to prevent abortions are also opposed to adequate funding for programs like Head Start and school lunches. And forget about a poor woman receiving government money so she can stay home with her infant - then she's just a freeloader.

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    3. Ms Underdahl, it wasn't a Kirkbride asylum, it was--and still is--a very well known institution in Massachusetts, where the wealthy were wont to dispose of "troublesome" family members. Nowadays, it's not that at all, of course--it's a superb research hospital as well as a place of the highest standard of care for those in need. The period of time I was speaking about was prior to 1950--maybe even prior to 1940. I meant no disrespect of the hospital--my disrespect was reserved solely for those parents and/or husbands!

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    4. Anonymous5:37 AM

      Came close, wolfbitch. Little pedophile supporting Ricky of the RCC should have a bowling ball implanted in his bladder, be forced to carry it and to excrete it via his little prick without pain meds.. And I'd want it filmed.

      Watch - abortion would become a sacrament.

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  19. "I don't want to be 50 and pregnant."

    "We can hardly afford the two we already have."

    "He insisted on an abortion because he was embarrassed by my pregnancy and said he was not ready to get married."

    "He is a jerk and there's no way I will be tied to him with a child."

    ... as explained to me by my friends, accompanied by assorted levels of trauma.

    The trauma ranged from 'glad it was over with' to 'will never get over it'. How cruel is it to add physical danger to the mix?

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  20. Anonymous11:47 AM

    I'm impressed. Your story brought tears to my eyes and that doesn't happen often.

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  21. Jesse, you are "Raris et Terra." I'd be proud to call you my bro. Blessings be heaped upon you. Your beautiful daughter is a lucky girl ...

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  22. Anonymous12:14 PM

    A few years ago I remember hearing Screech talk about being in New Orleans when she found out she was pregnant (yea, whatever). She said it would have been very easy (no it isn't) to have an abortion in a city where no one knew her. But ultimately she DECIDED to have the baby (yea, whatever). She tried to tell a story of keeping a DS baby - just to prove how awful us Liberals are - but all I heard was SHE MADE A CHOICE. That is all anyone can ask. Please just let us choose for ourselves what the right decision is.

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    1. Sally in MI1:55 PM

      If she were truly in LA, it may not have been a simple thing to choose an abortion. But you are right: I am not God, and a woman choosing abortion will have very good reasons for it...it is never as simple as 'birth control.'

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  23. Anonymous12:21 PM

    Jesse that could have been my best friend in HS, except I was the one to drive her over 400 miles round trip, luckily I "worked" in the school office and filed a fake excuse ( yes I was a forger in my youth) and I just told my parents ( my Dad was the Superintendent K-12 that I needed an "out of school" education, a visit to a new museum in the big city( A+ students can usually skip easier than anyone else) and her parents were told she was on a class trip for ONLY honor students.
    I drove her down to Minneapolis ( yep a 17 yr old driving in the big city) we stayed with my cool older sister who asked no questions, but I am sure she new. I never said much, I just arranged things, she finally talked to me about it at our 10 yr reunion and right after I had to terminate( late term) It was me or the fetus, my husband chose me.
    We cried together, laughed together and I have never seen her again.
    In a way , we were there for each other and isn't that what makes the world go around.

    Little Rabbit

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  24. Anonymous12:34 PM

    The busybodies should stay out of peoples business. If someone wants a abortion it is their busy. I am pro-choice.

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  25. Ferry Fey12:55 PM

    Jesse, thank you for your kindness and empathy with that girl. People don't realize how much simply just being there for someone can help.

    I got pregnant from a contraceptive failure with my loving husband, at a time in our lives when we were young and not at all interested in being parents, and I had medical issues which could have permanently damaged a fetus. I had an abortion. It was not a difficult and painful decision for us to make, and I have zero regrets. Many years later we had two children (who are now in their twenties), very much loved and our choice.

    A woman's body, a woman's choice.

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      I so agree with woman's body and woman's choice.

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  26. Anonymous1:05 PM

    This could've been me as well. My BF told me several times that if I got pregnant I would have to get an abortion because it would ruin his reputation. He was a youth leader in his church who became a baptist minister a year or two later. My parents would've probably disowned me if I had gotten pregnant. I was very lucky, the only BC we used was the withdrawal method. I know it was stupid but I was only 16 and in love with that loser. Sometimes young women feel as if they have no other choice but to abort due to lack of support in their lives. It's not a selfish decision as so many "Christians" would say. For me it would've been the only choice and I'm so glad I was spared from having to make it.

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  27. Anonymous1:06 PM

    I went through an abortion w/my daughter years ago and I'm glad she came to me FIRST. She had already made the decision she wanted an abortion and all I did was support her decision and stand by her. She was not ready to have a child - had been put on birth control (forgot to take her pills properly!) - and in reflection, after all these years later, it was the correct decision. She and I have never discussed it since! She has children now and is a wonderful mother.

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  28. Anonymous1:15 PM

    When I was in college decades ago and abortion was something done by sometimes questionable people in back rooms, a few of the young women on my freshman dorm floor found themselves "in trouble." I was never privy to their situations before but I was there when they returned from their procedures (who knows where?) and a couple of them actually shared their experiences openly. I do not recall one single one of us who condemned them or thrust a Bible in their pale and defeated faces. What they received was understanding and compassion, never ridicule. For what happened to them could have just as easily happened to any sexually- active young woman in attendance. This was just before birth control pills became common and I doubt any of these young women were particularly adept with diaphragms or the rhythm method. Accidents happened then as they happen now but much more frequently then. My point is, all of us seemed to know how vulnerable our friends were at that moment in time and something within us allowed us to be supportive. Imagine a group of random teenagers who instinctively acted more adult than our so-called "leaders" on the far right and in some churches. Maybe we knew then women were judged by a higher standard than men- and we still are!

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  29. Anonymous1:21 PM

    Beautifully written post, Jesse. Thank you.

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  30. I had 5 pregnancies, and all ended in miscarriages during week 14-16. I had been married for 18 years. During my last pregnancy, they did an ultrasound at 10 weeks. At first the technician was very talkative, then quiet, then "I need to get the doctor." Then, I knew this pregnancy would end the same way the others did. They did a vaginal ultrasound, just to make sure there wasn't a heartbeat. There wasn't. So, a D&C was scheduled for a few days later. Once I got to the clinic (I was with Kaiser then) for the D&C, I realized I was at the Kaiser "abortion" clinic. I thought "this is the way it should be." I was able to walk in, "terminate" my "products of conception" and go home...without dealing with protesters. This was back in 1992!!! My pregnancy was wanted...desperately wanted. But it wasn't to be. I could have waited another 4-6 weeks for the miscarriage to happen "naturally" like they had in the past. The "choice" is nobody's business. If you're against abortion, I'm sure your are for doing EVERYTHING you can to help the mother...you know, food stamps, head start, job training, etc. Not every single mother has the advantages of Bristol Palin. Not every abortion is because it's convenient for the mother to "get rid" of the pregnancy. Some of those pregnancies are wanted but, for unknown reasons, not to be.

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      Oh, Deni, bless you. Thank you for sharing your experience. Keep speaking out.

      CIP

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  31. honeybabe1:43 PM

    i think most of us, whatever sex, can think of similar situations. everyone handles it differently, it is NEVER easy but it is up to the 2 people involved. you did just the right thing gryphen. this old woman appreciates your sensitivity and thank you for sharing.

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  32. Otto Katz1:45 PM

    Much love to you Jesse, from way over here in Connecticut. Would that every male (and female) had the sensitivity that 18 year old you showed, and 30something you show to this day. Thank you for sharing this story.

    My niece shared her story with me the other day. She wished she had been forced to have more counseling at the time of her abortion years ago, she thinks she would have made a different choice. I told her but at least she had the choice. Some women don't. And that's a terrible thing.
    Thank you again, Jesse.

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  33. Randall1:46 PM

    The fetus people - those who hold up the photographs of dead fetuses (feti?) are some sick sons-a-bitches.

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    1. Anonymous3:16 PM

      I was out west last month as a tourist and happened to drive past a women's clinic that was surrounded by protesters. I had to slow down to check- yep, everyone was male! I'm sooo tired after all these years that men are STILL trying to control our bodies.

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      Those pics held up by the anti-choice assholes? They aren't even real pics. They had proven that quite awhile ago by Doctors.
      They use those pics and swear they are real when all they are is propaganda photo's, to lay guilt on the people going into the Clinics.
      They are a sick bunch.

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  34. angela1:55 PM

    Thanks for telling this story Gryphen.
    Being pro-choice is the only thing that makes sense.
    I get so effing sick of people calling others pro-abortion.
    I know no one who is pro-abortion. It is a hard choice, but
    it is a choice. Anything else is reprehensible.

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  35. Anonymous1:57 PM

    Sorry if this has been posted previously because it's very O/T:

    Entire Lifetime network nearly canceled over poor ratings of Bristol Palin show


    “We very narrowly avoided the ax here. It isn't often that a whole TV network gets canceled because of one crappy show,” said Lifetime's President and General Manager, Nancy Dubuc. “Her show is just that awful. Everyone at Lifetime that approved the show has been lined up against a wall and done away with, and everyone that knew about it and didn't speak up was set on fire, but they'll survive. I'm not sure how much else we can do to convince the brass that we won't make this terrible mistake again.”

    http://pardonthepundit.com/?ID=1207

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    1. Anonymous2:29 PM

      @Anon 1:57. That article is satire, much in the same genre as The Onion.
      Vero Guy

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    2. Anonymous3:15 PM

      Andy Borowitz would be proud as well!

      CIP

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  36. Anonymous1:59 PM

    Thank you Jesse. This was a very educated way of explaining this very personal and private decision facing many lifes. I commend you and are thankful for your thoughtfulness. A True gentleman. I appreciate you for so many reasons and this was the icing on the cake. May you be blessed with all the happiness that life can offer. I stand with you.

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  37. I have known many women who have had abortions, ranging from married women who never intended to have children, married women raped by husbands, single girls too young to be mothers, and more. It is a serious private decision, and shouldn't be compounded by protesters, bureaucratic hoops, financial barriers, or political rhetoric.

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  38. Anonymous2:39 PM

    WOW! Great writing Gryph. Have you thought about writing a book?

    You really know how to capture passion of life and emotions.

    I really enjoyed this post. ty

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  39. Anonymous2:59 PM

    I grew up at the same time as you Gryphen, through high school years. My best girlfriend had an abortion and it was very hard on her and her boyfriend but I knew that they weren't ready to bring a new baby into the world at their young age. For them, it was the only thing they knew that was correct for their situation at that time.
    I'm so proud of you for supporting this young girl in her struggle and with no prejudice. This world would be way better off having more young men like you today.

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  40. Anonymous3:24 PM

    In the end, it may be impossible to "demystify" abortion and, because of that, it is all the more important that women have choices about their own bodies.

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  41. Anonymous3:27 PM

    I've always been pro-choice. A friend of mine who went to the same Baptist church I went to was rabidly pro-life.
    She had an abortion in 1977 and told me about it because me being pro-choice I'd understand.
    Her reason was, she had 4 teenagers and 2 of them were in college and the other 2 wanted to go to college also.
    She also was a very nervous type person and just knew she'd have a nervous breakdown if she had to go through another pregnancy and she thought she was to old to start over with another baby.
    We didn't stay friends very long after she told me about it.
    The reason for that is she didn't change her stance one bit.She was still as rabidly pro-life after her abortion as she was before.
    She asked me why I wasn't coming to her house to see her any more and I told her I didn't like two faced people and she was one big time.

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  42. Anonymous4:14 PM

    Gryph, have I ever told you how awesome you are? Why yes, yes I have, but this post really put you over the top. Thank you!

    My cousin found herself pregnant when she was in college. In those days, abortion wasn't an option. She gave the baby up for adoption and never recovered from it. When she married, they tried for years to have a baby but it never happened. Each year on her son's birthday she'd get deeply depressed. Somewhere her child was out there & she didn't know how he was.

    She searched for him & finally found him - she was overcome with joy, as was he. He had been searching for her too. She had grandchildren - an added bonus. They met & instantly fell in love with each other, they were like two peas in a pod, looks, interests, sense of humor, musical ability, etc. They arranged to meet again so he could introduce her to his family & she could meet her grandchildren. Then the son called, the day before the meeting was to occur and he sadly told her that he had been adopted by a Mormon family & his Temple & his adoptive mother had determined that associating with her (a non-Mormon) couldn't happen again. As a devoted son & Mormon, he obeyed. She's never been the same since, I doubt he has either.

    Adoption can be just as mentally harmful & soul destroying for some people as abortion is to others. Both decisions are personal to each person and MUST be their CHOICE.

    Thank you for sharing these stories, and thank you for being such a truly caring & sensitive person. Anyone would be proud to stand with you. (except our damn trolls) You ARE appreciated.

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  43. Anonymous4:29 PM

    Some thirty years ago MS magazine published an article written by a very young Catholic priest.
    He had requested of an an abortion clinic permission to talk to their customers before their abortions.
    With qualifications, the clinic agreed, and so he spent the day counseling women who agreed to speak with him.

    The reason his article was in MS is becuse at the end of the day he had dissuaded no one and all the women he had talked to had convinced him of the need for their abortion.

    As your stories underline, women,and there are always exceptions, do not have abortions on a whim.

    I am sure all adult women know several or will come to know several friends, relatives, co workers, etc. who have had abortions, and in every instance the need was compelling and often included concerns for the quality of life that could be offered a newbie at that juncture in the woman's life.

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  44. physicsmom5:08 PM

    Thank you for sharing. All perspectives should be heard.

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  45. Beldar McCorvey Conehead5:46 PM

    Gryphen, you're so quick to defend these harlots' rights to have abortions, but what about the rights of the anti-choicer to deprive others of their freedoms?

    It's a part of our history or did you forget that the Pilgrims came to this land to both escape religious persecution in their homeland and also to impose their own innovative forms of religious persecution on others in their new homeland? Jeebus, man, it's as Amercan as apfelkuchen!

    History tells us that when people control their own lives there's no telling what can happen!!

    IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT FOR AMERCIA????

    I didnt think so....

    Remember, even if abortion is eventually made illegal again in this country (which isn't an impossible outcome), I'm pretty sure that any pregnant daughter or mistress (or one in the same) of a fat, rich, severe conservative businessman, politician or televangelist will know how to have things "taken care of" safely and discreetly.

    The rest of womenkind with unwanted pregnancies? Well, ironically, it'll be just like the way they got into trouble in the first place: fug'em!

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  46. Hugh G. Rection7:23 PM

    I am pro choice, not pro abortion. My ex wife had an abortion at 17, my current wife had a child at 16. The choice needs to be available.

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  47. This was tastefully done, thanks....I don't share my own abortion experience very often because I find it a private and something I will always defend as the right thing to do at the time. It was before cell phones but I was very aware that that I wanted to record it in my own way so I did. I brought my journal with me and wrote before and afterwards, asked to see the 10 week fetus so I could see what it looked like, always very curious about the development at that time frame. I valued the counseling afterwards but knew in my heart that out of love for this unborn child and my two children that I was raising on my own by that time, that it was for the best. A few years later, I tried to explain that to a Lutheran pastor, that I did it out of love, and that truly no one knows what others situation might be, and the option of abortion must always be available. Let's just say, he wasn't on the same page and I have never been back to a church again. Also I don't go around and tell a whole lot of people, although I have had this conversation with my grown children. I have no long term guilt, just bless that soul and hope they found their next parent and better circumstances.

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  48. Anonymous10:14 PM

    Gryphen: I read this post this morning and have mulled it over all day.

    My first reaction: this is man who knows and loves women; hats off to his mother.

    And then: it is so beautifully written. You tell the story lucidly, seamlessly, carefully.

    Thank you for taking the time and the heart to tell this tale so well.

    Aurora

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  49. Anonymous11:07 PM

    I'm persoally opposed to abortion, it isn't something I could have done. I got pregnant and had my baby and raised her all by myself. Yet, I realize that it is a personal decision and I can't tell women what to do. I know many women who have had abortions, many church women as well. I have been pregnant out of wedlock and it is hard. I did it back in the eighties and it wasn't easy then. It must have been horrible in the decades before that. Now it is just more acceptable. I don't understand the right wingers who don't want women to have birth control if they don't want abortion. They're nutty. I can say for a fact all the prolife grous don't give a damn about you or your baby once it is born. I've been down that road, they're pretty fake. Fundamentalist churches talk a good talk, but dont' walk the walk when it comes to helping single moms either. It is so much bs. Lots of hyocristy there. I left the church, the people are self righteous in their own eyes. Can't tolerate that crapola anymore.

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  50. Anita Winecooler11:41 PM

    Gryphen, You're a good friend, have a compassionate heart, and were mature beyond your years in HS. The website you linked is powerful, and most of the comments were supportive.
    I'm a couple of years older than you and drove a close friend (female) to a clinic and went in the waiting room with her, where I remained while she had her abortion. Among the protesters outside, was a woman I went to Church with, who took down my license plate number, description and vin of the car, and reported me to the Archbishop, which led to my being excommunicated. She did me two big favors.

    Anyway, I've always been pro choice. Who am I to make that decision for another woman/couple? I had four pregnancies, one was stillborn, I had a bad case of the why's and what if's and there's nothing I could have done to prevent it, so I DO have a lot of empathy for every woman/couple to decide what's right for them. No judgement nor shame from me.

    Thanks for doing this post and sharing a deeply moving, personal sharing of your opinion and experiences.

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  51. Beldar Zygoat Conehead8:12 AM

    Anita - Yeah, Gryphen's an all right guy (tho I still have a strong suspicion that's not his real name. And frankly I'm not too sure about you either... Are you any relation to the Philadelphia Winecoolers?)

    You're an awesome friend, as well. It's unfortunate that under such difficult emotional circumstances, the church chooses to abandon and then excoriate, also too, its vulnerable female members.

    But I'm sure you can appreciate their position. Any effort made to interfere with God's Plan to overpopulate the planet has to be regarded as an egregious violation. Remember the motto: "Every Egg A Baby(tm)". Don't kid yourself. It comes in many disguises and by many names. You can call it abortion, contraception, masturbation, miscarriage, nocturnal emissions, menstruation... Whatever. The effect is always the same: no baby. That's clearly an intolerable outcome.

    As to your unfortunate excommunication (mazel tov, by the way...), you obviously chose an unforgivable sin. If only you'd found a little boy to diddle, you'd still be a member in good standing.

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      I agree,yJesse IS more than all right in my book, even though his name does sound odder than "Conehead" or "Winecooler", I think it's his REAL name, and he's using reverse psychology. I may be wrong, but that's my theory. Don't tell anyone, ok?
      As for the incident with the church, you're right, some "sins" are unforgivable, the ones they overlook.

      Beldar, I appreciate your posts on this blog. You have a real talent and sharp wit that always brings a smile to my face.

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  52. Anonymous12:48 PM

    Too concerned about _upsetting_ your readers?! What, they're all soooo sensitive?
    What! Like, WHO?!

    Yes, thanks so much for your discretion and sensitivity and kindness in linking this story from The Guardian.

    But you missed the most important part:
    "...they had always associated abortion with the same grotesque images I had encountered while entering the clinic."

    "The protesters' heartless use of lifeless foetus images made me feel cheated, lied to and manipulated. It was just propaganda: intended to shake the core of my deepest biological, intellectual and emotional foundation.

    Within 48 hours of launching thisismyabortion.com, I received a deluge of emails from men, women and couples all over the world confiding in me their own courageous and unique abortion stories. Some told tales of horrific self-inflicted abortions in countries where abortion remains illegal.
    Others expressed sincere gratitude for my documentation, either because it mirrored their own experiences of safe abortions or, in some cases, because they had always associated abortion with the same grotesque images I had encountered while entering the clinic.

    I believe we are the majority, and we hold the power to demand the right to make educated choices for our bodies and our families."

    500 comments

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/09/photos-abortion-educate-empower-women?commentpage=all#start-of-comments

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