Monday, January 14, 2013

Bill Fulton's interview with the LA Times.

Courtesy of the LA Times:  

Fulton, who had long worked with Army criminal investigators through his surplus shop, had gone to the FBI in 2010 about a potential domestic terrorism case when the FBI learned he knew Cox. 

"The wheels started turning: How can we use this to our advantage, to try to get more information? Is Cox really going down that path? Which inevitably, he was," said Sandra Klein, a supervisory special agent who became Fulton's chief handler. 

Fulton's first assignment was to attend a gun and military surplus sale intended as a fundraiser for the Interior Alaska Conservative Coalition, which Cox had helped establish in Fairbanks. Cox had been trying to get in touch with Fulton, who had ignored him "because I thought he was an idiot." The night before the event in August 2010, Fulton invited Cox to meet him at his hotel. The militiaman arrived with Les Zerbe, a retired missionary ranked as a captain, and another associate. 

Cox had been accused of assaulting his wife, and worried that state authorities were trying to take his son away. He talked about Fulton serving what he called common-law warrants on the officials he thought were out to get him. 

"He said these guys need to be arrested and brought to trial," Fulton recalled. "I said, 'What are you going to do with them?' He said, 'We'll either fine them, or we'll hang them.'" 

Cox and company discussed how they were going to go to the homes of selected enemies, cut the electricity to the house, and make enough noise to lure their main target onto the front porch, where he could be shot. Then the windows and doors would be boarded up, and the house, with the rest of the family inside, would be set on fire. "Collateral damage" is the way Fulton said they described it. 

After Cox left, Fulton phoned Klein. "I'm like, 'Help! What am I supposed to do? Do I need to get my family out of here?' And she's like, 'We'll handle it. Just try to figure out as much as you can.' She was really good at calming me down, but even for her, I could tell it was stressing her out."

I understand that Bill has a few more of these coming out, including at least one with another Alaska blogger.

I want him to go on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow but he is hesitant due to some statements made  about him after the Hopfinger kerfuffle that he believes were out of line.

I have reminded him that I was the one that kept referring to him as a "jack booted thug" but he says that is different.  Anyhow I hoping he changes his mind.

He says he might.

I am hoping to get the next post up answering your questions in the next day or two. I have some work obligations and Bill is in demand for interviews, not to mention working to catch the bad guys, so we have to work around each others schedules.

27 comments:

  1. Anonymous3:26 PM

    I'd be freaked out too! That man Cox is a dangerous psychopath.

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  2. Anonymous3:30 PM

    That should satisfy the Palin Troll who suggests that Bill is Hanging out at IM. But with anything Palin, the TRUTH does not matter. Los Angeles, Wasilla, Anchorage, and United States are all over your Bill Fulton Interviews. Are they getting Nervous?

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  3. hedgewytch3:55 PM

    Bill is going to be on the Shanynn Moore radio show tonight at 6.

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  4. jcinco3:58 PM

    Pretty impressive, Gryphen. I believe your hard work may yet pay off...

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  5. Anonymous4:06 PM

    You are absolutely correct Gryphen. He should go on Rachels show. Rachel like the rest of us did not know what was going on at this time. I to did not have nice things to say about Fulton at that time either but now think he is a great guy that has saved many lives.

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    1. Anonymous6:12 PM

      She would give him a great interview. And I think she would acknowledge he pulled his cover off remarkably well!

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  6. I don’t get it. Schaffer Cox was such an obvious little weasel. What was wrong with the other guys; much older and bigger? Were they stupid or something? I’m sorry, but I can’t take a weasel like Cox seriously. What the hell was wrong with the men who followed him? I know he’s been described as Hitler-like, but he’s the sort my dad would have casually pounded into a snow bank, paperboy cap and all.

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    1. In TX it is said that you can tell the men from the boys by the size of their toys.....money follows power. AK appears to have the same mentality.

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  7. Anonymous5:33 PM

    I hope Mr. Fulton gets the credit he deserves and is paid well. He really put himself and his family on the line.

    What I can't understand though is why Cox would risk all to get back at AK authorities, for the reason which he claimed were going to take his son away from him. Wouldn't it have been easier to stop hitting his wife and get counseling? Why kidnap officials and execute them or sell them to the 'slave trade'? There had to be some mental problems going on in his mind as well. And, is there a slave trade in AK? I never even heard that there was such a thing in the U.S. This certainly does seem surreal.

    Seems that Cox and his people were looking for an excuse to start some type of militia war with government authorities.

    Well, thankfully, they we're caught. And it seems that maybe, from the LA Times article, that more AK investigations are pending, on other gun-related matters. I really hope this story is forwarded to evening and night-time shows. Considering the timing when the country is discussing the dangers of weapons and more widespread eccentric gun-owners, this story should get media attention.

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    1. Anonymous6:13 PM

      good points.

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    2. Anonymous12:36 AM

      Cox and like minded people are anti goverment including laws and taxes. I don't think he thought anyone should enforce consequences for battering his wife nor did his peer group. Telling Cox "no" in their minds deserved mass murder including children.

      So, people like Cox can buy an arsenal of weapons to murder people spinning it's their
      constitutuonal right.

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  8. Anonymous6:10 PM

    Wow! This is better than a mystery novel! I wonder if McGinniss is thinking he missed the mark with Sarah Palin, but I don't think so. I think he is probably following this story with piqued interest. I know I am.

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  9. Anonymous7:01 PM

    I am somewhat concerned Fulton is beating his gums like this. There are plenty of Cox, Miller, and Palin supporters out there, dangerous ones too. Shouldn't he be in the witness protection program or something?

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    1. Anonymous7:25 PM

      Who says that he isn't in the Witness Protection Program?

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  10. Bill's days at working to catch the bad guys are basically over. He has a very high public profile due to media coverage, which he seems comfortable with.

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  11. Anonymous8:06 PM

    I look forward to buying Bill's book.

    My questions for Bill are-

    How did Eddie Burke end up owing Drop Zone $9,282 for "Advertising Materials" for his 2010 Lt. Governor Primary campaign? Did this money ever get paid back? The campaign records don't show how or if that happened.

    https://webapp.state.ak.us/apoc/debts.jsp?elec_key=EK31922891&cand_type=Candidate+&filer=BURKE%2C+JR.%2C+EDWARD+A.&cycle=2010+State+Primary++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&report=30-DAY+REPORT+++++++&office=Lt+Governor&seat=&log_date=2010-07-26+00%3A00%3A00.0&from_date=2010-02-02+00%3A00%3A00.0&rept_date=2010-07-23+00%3A00%3A00.0&pagesize=20

    https://webapp.state.ak.us/apoc/summary.jsp?elec_key=EK31922891&cand_type=Candidate+&filer=BURKE%2C+JR.%2C+EDWARD+A.&cycle=2010+State+Primary++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++&report=30-DAY+REPORT+++++++&office=Lt+Governor&seat=&log_date=2010-07-26+00%3A00%3A00.0&from_date=2010-02-02+00%3A00%3A00.0&rept_date=2010-07-23+00%3A00%3A00.0&pagesize=20

    Bonus question: Did Bill meet Sarah's dad while working on the Burke campaign?

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  12. Anita Winecooler8:34 PM

    I agree with your advice, MSNBC would give him a fair interview and get his story out to a wider audience. Especially Rachel, Larry or even Martin Bashir. It would get his story out AND help pique interest in his upcoming book.

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  13. Anonymous9:59 PM

    Quite interesting....
    I'm thinking Bill Fulton has the goods on certain information and wants to sell his story now with providing and selling a book, while limiting what he will actually say. Reminds me alot of the Alaskan Seal team six that gave his opinion on CBS and wrote a book about the taking down of OSB. It also reminds me of Frank Bailey writing a book making money as being the ditch witch SP right hand man.
    They all will write a book to make money, yet give any real info to the citizens of the U.S. It's purely drama and another way to make money. Ohhh, Alaska! You've got some real beauties!

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  14. Anonymous12:00 AM

    I hope Mr. Fulton DOES write a book. Not only to be compensated but the entire world should read this story. Also too, it would help to focus a laser light on that woman who always wanting to be in the spotlight center-stage. Be careful what you wish for granny G.

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  15. Bill ~

    Did you ride out the flurry in Alabama? The only reason i ask is because the rental bill was paid by the federal marshals and the time frame fits.

    It would be oh, so delicious if that person was you :)

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  16. Anonymous9:16 AM

    I don't even want to start to think of what happened after jesse got mr. bill in his bedroom and took that picture of him. Mr. Bill looks like he's found true love though! Poor kid, being taken advantage of when he's so down on his luck.

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    1. Anonymous9:16 AM

      OH SNAP Gryphen! You done did it now! Looks like Mr Toad Palin with the multi-colored microscopic penis is...MAD!

      Not only that...he's writing out his sexual fantasies about his OWN "mr bill" or is that "mr phil"...LOL!!!

      PS to the dummy...

      Uh excuse me Mr micro-penis...apparently your reading skills are lacking...note this article was written by the LA Times dumbass! LOL!!

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    2. Yeah this is my comically homophobic troll.

      Essentially sees gay sex everywhere, and when I do actually post about it he goes into a bizarre self loathing frenzy that is truly psychotic.

      By the way should I even bother to point out that this picture is from the internet and not one that I took myself?

      You know, not that it would matter because, gay sex.

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    3. Gryphen11:13 AM

      NAWWWW....don't bother Gryphen...obviously Mr micro-penis can't read...and has some serious pent up...feelings about "gay sex".

      Hey...he sounds like a Republican or Toad Palin! LOL!!!

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    4. Anonymous1:14 PM

      9:16 AM Your Jealousy is showing. You can always pay TOAD for your desires, he will do anything for money. Pimpin' Ain't Easy, he has to satisfy 'ALL' of his clients Male or Female. Sarah's Putrid Smell forced TOAD out into the streets.

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  17. Anonymous9:40 AM

    Alaska Tea Party favorite Joe Miller isn't saying the FBI planted a mole to bring down his 2010 Senate campaign. He just thinks they need to answer some questions.

    The Huffington Post reported last week on Bill Fulton, the FBI informant who helped the feds bring down extremist militia leader Schaeffer Cox. At the time he was working as an informant, Fulton was also providing security for Miller's 2010 Senate campaign. During one high-profile incident, Fulton handcuffed a journalist trying to ask Miller questions.

    In an interview Monday with the Los Angeles Times, Miller said the handcuffing incident was “absolutely” detrimental to his campaign and “utilized as a political weapon against us in the state.”

    Miller told the L.A. Times he was troubled that Fulton, who told HuffPost that he is personally fiscally conservative but socially liberal, injected controversy into his campaign. He pointed out that a separate FBI investigation into the late Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) cost him reelection in 2008 even though charges were ultimately dropped by the Justice Department in 2009 when prosecutors failed to turn over potentially exculpatory evidence.

    “This is the second U.S. Senate race in Alaska that the FBI has had some involvement in,” Miller told the L.A. Times. “I’m certainly not expressing any type of conspiracy theory about the FBI causing any kind of trouble to my campaign, but it’s conceptually troubling to me that you have a paid informant working on multiple campaigns answering to the FBI, being debriefed by the FBI, and I really think it’s incumbent on that agency to come clean about the scope of this individual’s employment and the level of involvement the FBI had in that.”

    As the Alaska Dispatch points out, Miller had a different position in August 2011 when he was still defending Fulton. "I want to make it explicitly clear that I do not believe that Bill Fulton acted with the intent to harm our campaign during the Anchorage town hall meeting this past October," Miller said at the time. "In other words, I do not buy into any type of federal conspiracy against the Joe Miller for U.S. Senate Campaign."

    Sandra Klein, Fulton's FBI handler, told the L.A. Times that she never really discussed politics with Fulton.

    more

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/joe-miller-bill-fulton-fbi-politics_n_2479644.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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