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| Rep. Cathrynn "I know nothing about rape: Brown. |
A Republican lawmaker in New Mexico introduced a bill on Wednesday that would legally require victims of rape to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a sexual assault trial.
House Bill 206, introduced by state Rep. Cathrynn Brown (R), would charge a rape victim who ended her pregnancy with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence."
“Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime," the bill says.
Third-degree felonies in New Mexico carry a sentence of up to three years in prison.
Pat Davis of ProgressNow New Mexico, a progressive nonprofit opposing the bill, called it "blatantly unconstitutional" on Thursday.
“The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” he said. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.“
You know I think the part of this that bothers me the most is that it is being introduced by a woman! How is that even possible?
First off this is a completely naked attempt to an anti-abortion bill while cloaking it in the most transparent covering of an pro-law enforcement bill, and I truly doubt that too many people in New Mexico are confused about that.
However the other thing is that THIS is what Rape Kits are for. If used properly they can identify the rapist using the DNA he would leave behind and as humiliating as it is for a woman to go through that process it is infinitely better than forcing her to give birth to her rapist's child.
You know I often ask myself if the Republican party is a party completely without compassion or self awareness, ans when I read stories like this one the the answer to that question becomes all too obvious.
prime example of repub woman who wants to make decisions for all rape victims. woman who hates women. what idiocy.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention she looks like Tootsie. (sorry Tootsie)
DeleteSo now instead of being a gift from god (Richard Mourdock), babies are reduced to being pieces of evidence?
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but these stupid fucks have hit a new low.
I'm going to give this woman the benefit of the doubt and assume, as she claims, that the intent of the bill is to prevent the rapist from "destroying the evidence", and that it was just worded badly.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.currentargus.com/ci_22441980/carlsbads-cathrynn-brown-under-fire-bill-abortion-by?source=most_viewed
How does this Cathrynn Brown be this stupid and still make it through the day without endangering herself or others?
DeleteAlthough I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt, it's really hard to imagine how to improve "worded badly" into something that doesn't jail women for being raped and pregnant.
I see. It's the rapist who gets pregnant who must carry to term and give birth. That does make a lot more sense.
DeleteThis woman claims her intent had nothing to do with the woman. Her bill was intended for the rapist - whoever that may be, I might add. She says the language was poorly written is all. She's a lawyer. She says she is careful about legislation she writes. Spare me.
DeleteI have to think that after the GOP fails during this last election (whenever they roamed into "rape" territory) would have given Cathrynn Brown a little clue that any legislation containing the words
Delete"rape"
and
"abortion"
needs very careful thought, proofreading and general care to avoid "foot in mouth" spin sessions when the media just happens to say the exact words you said.
Does Cathrynn Brown really think we're stupid enough to read the text of her proposed legislation and think there's a benefit to women in that verbiage? Of course she doesn't. She's just had a rude awakening and is now trying to squirm out of the hole she dug for herself.
Would an abortion be allowed if the father rapist's severed dick is presented with a Dr.'s signature?
DeleteIt makes sense that the GOP is now using women to talk about rape and further dehumanize women. In some ways it is even more twisted than when Akins and Donnelly--to say nothing of Paul Ryan talked about it.
ReplyDeleteThis makes me sick--as does Ms. Brown's face.
Umm, Angela. It wasn't Donnelly who talked about rape. You're confused. It was Richard (Dick) Mourdock, Donnelly's opponent, who said that God intended for the rape to result in a child.
DeleteThanks for the correction. I realized I got the names wrong after I posted.
DeleteDonnelly is one of those anti-choice Dems though. Probably the only way e could get elected, in red Indiana and uber RCC South Bend (Notre Dame) area.
DeleteThe UPDATE to that HuffPo article provides an "explanation" by state Rep. Brown saying the goal of her bill is to punish the RAPIST.
ReplyDeleteUPDATE: 12:25 p.m. -- Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.
“New Mexico needs to strengthen its laws to deter sex offenders,” said Brown. “By adding this law in New Mexico, we can help to protect women across our state.”
How wacked-out crazy is that? This woman is a moron.
(I'm sorry that I've been using that word so frequently lately, but honestly, what kind of person is stupider than stupid? Yeah, a moron)
Can't fix stupid, KaJo.
DeleteAs a New Mexico resident, I am profoundly embarrassed that this dimwit somehow was elected to the legislature and now is making national news with her vile and crazed mouthfoaming. And what a criminal waste of our very poor state's time and money! The saving grace here is that it will make a dandy Saturday Night Live sketch.
ReplyDeleteStellaGuadalupe
Would any man "hit" that?
ReplyDeleteSadly...yes. Every pot has its lid.
DeleteThis woman is certifiably nuts. Does anyone really believe that any teapartier or conservative rethug will demand one of theirs would be required to incubate a fetus to birth if the perpetrator was black, brown, yellow, etc.?
ReplyDeleteThe hypocrisy in the right wing party + the obvious insane proposals are at a new level, or they are just not as secretive as in the past because they are so desperate.
Set aside the harm they are doing with their blathering - it is good to see that they are spewing words that make us know they are as stupid as we always thought.
IS THERE NO DEPTH OF DEPRAVITY That these ultra religious Christian supremacists will not sink to?
ReplyDeleteSo a woman or girl is brutally raped, and she happens to be very diabetic, or have other medical conditions that would kill her if she got pregnant.
Under this evil draconian and vicious law, that woman would be forced to risk her life to satisfy
a stupid and naked ploy to ban all abortions
I Think Ms Brown needs to move to Iran so that she can enjoy a REAL THEOCRACY, where all abortions are illegal, women are 5th class citizens with the same rights as dogs and donkeys.
That woman is projecting some self-hatred. I guess she doesn't ever have to worry about any man raping her. Love the beads.
ReplyDeleteRape is an act of violence, not an act of passion. Your comment is misguided.
DeleteLook at that photo. If you had to face that in the mirror every morning - lots of self-hate, and jealousy of other women.
DeleteCome on. Comments about appearance aren't made about men when they're being stupid. I don't remember comments about nobody wanting to sleep with Mourdock or Akins because of the way they look. Why the comments on women? What does it have to do with the vile, idiotic proposal that this woman made?
DeleteIt would also be entirely too simple to harvest a few dna cells from the aborted embryo.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Logic is certainly not a Republican strong suit.
DeleteCathrynn Brown gives the rest of us women a bad name. What is wrong with this woman's thinking? I'll have to google her to see what she's hiding such as any abortions in her past, etc.
ReplyDeleteNot ALL women, just the GOP tea-turds. This is asinine.
Deletetea_tard rep cathrynn " I know nothing about rape " brown, undoubtably has never even so much as been laid ... fukin' clueless skank_tard ...
ReplyDeletedomestic taliban tea_tards
ReplyDeletefuk 'em
Two thumbs up, 3:29.
Deleteyou can't fix stupid....
ReplyDeleteThe GOP is utterly without compassion or self-awareness. How can so many people be so mean-spirited? And stupid! They really think people aren't able to see through this outrageous bill?
ReplyDeleteMcGinniss has cancer http://news.yahoo.com/joe-mcginniss-cancer-feels-terrific-151056320.html
ReplyDeleteGood to know there are still Republicans willing to get their INSANE opinions about rape out into the news media. Each and every one of these lunatics is getting votes for the Democratic party.
ReplyDeleteWell, isn't that precious! I hope Miss Brown will be willing to financially support all of the "criminal evidence" results for the next 18 years.
ReplyDeleteNote: She looks like a nun I had in 6th grade.
I think we were in the same classroom!
Deleteyeh, she's going over real well here with most
ReplyDeleteof the people pretty much SMH.
Judge:
ReplyDeleteHow do we know it was rape?
Expert Witness:
Well, we made the victim carry the baby to term and birth it. And it turned out to be a baby. So, well, you know, it must have been rape.
Judge:
nooooooooooooooo.
And Boo Boo Boehner thinks President Obama wants to annihilate the gop?? They are damaging themselves, with the stupid, ignorant statements they make.
ReplyDeleteA republican co-worker (and gun owner) is pissed beyond belief that they are going to take away his right to own a gun. On the other hand, he has no problem taking away a woman's right to choose and doesn't believe the LGBT community should have any rights at all or that gay marriage really is a civil rights issue (let alone a human one). Watching MSNBC recently, they showed a clip of Paul Ryan giving a speech where he said all he wanted was to be free to live his life as he chooses - why is it "they" want their freedoms but have no problem denying others their freedoms? Idiots.
ReplyDeleteWhat an asshole this woman is. A disgrace to her gender.
ReplyDeleteThe stupid runs bone deep in this one!
ReplyDeleteFine with me... well just as long as we get to keep the rapist penis in a Mason jar filled rubbing alcohol for the jury to fondle and oggle over.
ReplyDeleteKoo-chi coo!
This woman is a disgrace to all women! I doubt that she, or any female relative of hers, would carry a baby to birth who was created from a rape. I cannot fathom the lack of empathy for a raped woman.
ReplyDeleteThis idea has some merit. Anything to slow down the mad rush to kill babies before they are even born.
DeleteWhat mad rush are you talking about? Abortion is a legal medical procedure.
DeleteNo one is forced to have an abortion. This bill, should it be approve would force a woman to carry a fetus to term. So much for freedom-loving Americans.
Question for you: if all abortions were illegal, what punishment should a woman suffer if she has one? I'm not talking about the doctor, but the woman.
Waiting for your answer.
Anon @8:42, there is no mad rush to kill babies you idiot.
DeleteAnon at 8:42 pm. There is no "mad rush to kill babies before they are even born." There is, in this country, a legal right for women to choose to continue a pregnancy or to end it. And there should be no place in a rational discussion of a woman's legal right to choose what is best for her body for the intrusion of the subject of rape and its consequences. Rape is a violent crime against women and we should not allow ourselves to get mired in the absurd and cruel topic of whether a woman should have the right to choose to continue a pregnancy that was begun in the midst of a violent assault. Mixing the two subjects only encourages the insane belief (held by some men and many Republicans) that the victim of rape is responsible for it. She is not. And, for the life of me, I cannot understand why a woman who is a state legislator, even a Republican, would bring forward such a bill. Utterly insane.
DeleteBeaglemom
What a sorry excuse for a woman! How did she get elected?
ReplyDeleteHmm, maybe if she colored her grays she might actually find a man to have sex with her and get her over this rape fetish she has? Just sayin'...
ReplyDeleteGo to hell lady (and I use the term lady, loosely.
ReplyDeleteWhat evidence? DNA? Take it from the fetus that is aborted. Women will just deny there was a rape, and go have their abortion. The men won't be prosecuted, and will then go on to rape again. What a fucktard!
ReplyDeleteThis is a back-door effort to SHAME THE VICTIM into submission. Same old right-wing BS against women. Hard to believe a woman would have so little empathy, but nothing should shock us very much after witnessing the vaginal probe bills and similar nonsense in VA, TX, etc last year.
DeleteWhy is it that all these TeaTHUGlican faux women have such a porcine look? Beady eyes, heavy jowls, no neck?
ReplyDeleteYet they are infinitely more stupid than hogs.
Yes, and they look exactly like most of their male counterparts. And add prissy little mouths. Shudder. Barf!
DeleteIf I'm not mistaken, a fairly large percentage of rapes go unreported. This would further discourage women from reporting a rape if they knew they would be required to carry a resulting pregnancy to term.
ReplyDeleteThis is off topic Gryphen but I have to bring it to your attention so you can maybe post it here.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/23/transgender-girl-obama-speech_n_2533298.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Such eloquent and intelligent writing for an 11 year old trannie! I think you will agree.
Sarah Palin just outed her sons "religious" tattoos. I did some research and indeed the swastika is religious in nature.
ReplyDeleteI'll bet she didn't specify what the orientation was on the swastika, did she? With the exception of the current use in the theosphical movement and certain other modern movements along those lines, the only usage I can find that is turned 45 degrees from the horizontal is the NAZI swastika. All the others seem to be positioned so the "arms" are horizontal and vertical.
DeleteSo she needs to tell us HOW it is tattooed onto him, orientation-wise.
Oops. That should be spelled theosophical.
DeleteWhat a piece of fucking dog turd she is. She looks like a stupid, uneducated person that is probably blinded by her religion. I haven't looked at her wiki, but seeing her stance, I don't have to. She is a fucking bitch and swallowing her stupid religion. What kind of women take this kind of stance? It's just to ridiculous to even think about.
ReplyDeleteI would llove to slap this crazy asshole into next week. What type of sick bitch would do that to another woman?
ReplyDeleteBetter to slap her into LAST week so she will ALWAYS be behind!
DeleteAnother disgusting woman who obviously uses the same wig company of Sista Sawah. Same morals too. Disgusting.
ReplyDeleteI would assume that also gunshot victims are not allowed to have bullets removed either. That would be tampering with evidence.
ReplyDeleteVERY GOOD POINT!!!!!!!!!
DeleteWhenever I hear of one of these Republican lawmakers coming up with these nasty anti-abortion laws, my knee-jerk reaction is that they're less-than-human. That they're some kind of sub-human sociopath lacking part of what makes the rest of us more than just animals.
ReplyDeleteBut that's not true: they're ignorant. Or maybe just really stupid, which would be too bad, since it's nearly impossible to fix stupid.
But ignorant CAN be fixed. Whenever one of these deluded lawmakers come up with these wicked ideas, they should
A)have to spend one year helping out at a NICU in a major city
and
B)have to spend a couple of months at a rape-counseling clinic.
If after all that they haven't changed their minds about abortion then there is something wrong with their mind - or their soul. The next steps would have to be psychiatry and college-level courses in philosophy.
If, after all that, they still have no functioning brain, no compassion, no empathy - then they should have to go sit in the corner with Sarah Palin and the stupid people.
It's the handmaid's tale. The republicans have become the American Taliban.
ReplyDeleteShouldn't the rapist be castrated and his penis be preserved as evidence so you're guaranteed it won't leave the country or State prior to the trial? Just say'in.
ReplyDeleteThe NM rep. who looks a little like Victoria Jackson (ever seen them in the same room?) must yearn for the days when women were found dead in alleys near Albuquerque Plaza, in the brush of the South Valley and in the rocks around the petroglyphs. She probably likes things moral and tidy, and thinks fondly of the days when decent folk didn't have to think about such things. Just because you make it illegal, sister, doesn't mean abortion goes away. It just goes into the hands of local gangsters who manipulate it to their own purposes.
ReplyDeleteShe going to outlaw the morning after pill too?
ReplyDeleteYou know for all their bloviating about how the left is going to force Sharia law on the U.S., time and again it is the GOP pushing Sharia-like laws through at the state level and trying at the federal.
GOP is becoming synonymous with "hypocrite".
Ooops. Forget that "becoming" above. Typo.