Courtesy of Fox News:
Ted Cruz and Dianne Feinstein had this explosive exchange at a Senate Judiciary Hearing on guns earlier today.
"The question that I would pose to the senior senator from California is," said Cruz to Feinstein, "Would she deem it consistent with the Bill of Rights for Congress to engage in the same endeavor that we are contemplating doing with the Second Amendment in the context of the First or Fourth Amendment, namely, would she consider it constitutional for Congress to specify that the First Amendment shall apply only to the following books and shall not apply to the books that Congress has deemed outside the protection of the Bill of Rights? Likewise, would she think that the Fourth Amendment's protection against searches and seizures could properly apply only to the following specified individuals and not to the individuals that Congress has deemed outside the protection of the Bill of Rights?
"I'm not a sixth grader," said Feinstein. "Senator, I've been on this committee for 20 years. I was a mayor for nine years. I walked in, I saw people shot. I've looked at bodies that have been shot with these weapons. I've seen the bullets that implode. In Sandy Hook, youngsters were dismembered. Look, there are other weapons. I've been up -- I'm not a lawyer, but after 20 years I've been up close and personal to the Constitution. I have great respect for it. This doesn't mean that weapons of war and the Heller decision clearly points out three exceptions, two of which are pertinent here. And so I -- you know, it's fine you want to lecture me on the Constitution. I appreciate it. Just know I've been here for a long time. I've passed on a number of bills. I've studied the Constitution myself. I am reasonably well educated, and I thank you for the lecture."
This excerpt was taken from Fox Nation, so of course they left off the part where Senator Feinstien made a very important point about what these new gun laws actually do. She continued on to say:
"Incidentally this does not prohibit, you use the word 'prohibit,' it 'exempts' 2.271 weapons. Isn't that enough for the people in the United States? Do they need a bazooka? Do they need other high powered weapons that military people use to kill in close combat? I don't think so!"
As I am sure I have not failed to make clear in the past I have a deep and abiding dislike for this Ted Cruz guy., He is a very slimy, and slippery, POS.
And his argument comparing the 2nd Amendment to the 1st Amendment would only hold water if I could use a Harry Potter book to blow half of your face off.
I have long appreciated Senator Feinstein, but never more than watching her school this weaselly Teabagging asshole.
Update: Might be worth noting that despite Cruz's pathetic tantrum, that the assault weapons ban DID pass.
there are limits on the first amendment (and the fourth for that matter). has he ever heard of pornography? child pornography? S&M pornography? has he ever heard of terroristic threats? i really hope he is a one term senator, if he lasts that long.
ReplyDeleteExactly. Laws limiting the First and Fourth Amendments (both state and federal) have been ruled constitutional.
DeleteTed Cruz is an ingrown scrotum hair of a man.
ReplyDeleteCan you say false equivalance. A favorite RWNJ Tactic. Yes Ted ( can I call you Ted) books & free speech are just like guns that are strictly for killing people.
ReplyDeleteAnd gee, Teddy, there isn't a clause in those other amendment that limit their purpose to a well-armed militia.
DeleteMilitia defined: 10 USC 311. Since I'm part of (b) (2), I will follow your instructions. I assume you are part of the exclusions listed under sec 312?
DeleteMilitia defined: 10 USC Sec 311. Since I'm part of (b) (2), I will follow your instructions to be "well-armed". I assume you are part of the exclusions listed under Sec 312?
DeleteLooks like Cruz is joining Virginia Foxx and Louis Gohmert in the Lowest IQ in Congress Contest. Competition will be fierce!
ReplyDeleteOtherwise known as Race to the Bottom!
DeleteWell, her assualt weapons bill passed the SENATE PANEL.
ReplyDeleteIt did not and probably will not pass the Senate, and it will not pass the House.
Cruz really is a dick, isn't he? Gohmert too. Why are they all such dicks?
Maybe because they HAVE no dicks?
DeleteIncluding Virginia Fuxx
DeleteTed Cruz even looks slimy. He is the re-incarnation of McCarthy and needs to be watched very carefully. I hope he crashes and burns politically - ASAP!
ReplyDeleteHe even looks like McCarthy.
DeleteThe senior senator from California, what does she know? Meh, she's a woman and for a ban on assault weapons.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure she wanted to kick him in the ass, but didn't want to give him the satisfaction. She did it with words.
Doncha just love fox news?
Cruz for some reason reminds me of McCarthy.Can someone tell me Why?
ReplyDeleteBecause he has no sense of decency?
Delete(also, he kind of looks like McCarthy and made that jackass "communists at Harvard comment).
the arrogant stupid prick got handed his dick bigtime. HAHAHA
ReplyDeleteGabby Giffords trying to "toughen" her image before the 2010 election. Isn't that special?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Mark-Kelly-s-AR-15-Stunt-Provokes-Giffords-Photo-Leak
A Breitdead link? Seriously? Where 90% of their stories are made up by emotionally stunted boys?
DeleteAnd the other 10% are plagiarized without attribution. The story behind those pics is out, and undoubtably the hacks at Not-so-fucking-Bright-Farts were too cowardly to call the subject of their smear for a comment regarding the article with photos. You know, like real reporters and real journalists. The record will be set straight, but waiting on those broke dicks over there for a correction is an exercise in futility, because they're just little bottoms for their partisan bosses to plug away into (drill, baby, drill!) and when their tops throw them a bone, we know where they like it jammed.
DeleteAny reader at Bumfuck sites isn't one whose opinion I give one goddam about. I'd rather laugh along with the rest of those with intelligence af those low-info, low-intelligence, no-education jack offs that print their name under the trash that they write on a 4th grade level. Even at that level of readership, those cockbites still can't use proper grammar or spell worth a damn.
The funniest thing, IMO, is that they're still standing in line to suck Breitbart's dick, after he's been dead over a year. At least they learned to share before they dropped out of middle school. Worthless fucks. lol
That was great..cruz was really pissed about being called out like that...yesss i do love my Ca...
ReplyDeleteGohmert and Cruz are both dicks, but so is Feinstein. I have this odd standard of not wanting an elected representative to lie to me, or the rest of the American public.
ReplyDeleteSo whether it's "nobody is going to take away your guns"....or "it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines"....or "if there's ever a problem, just walk out on the balcony ... take that double-barrel shotgun and fire two blasts outside the house. You don't need an AR-15. It's harder to aim, it's harder to use and in fact, you don't need 30 rounds to protect yourself." + 'firing your shotgun through your closed front door'....or pretending that one set of firearms is somehow more lethal, based on cosmetic and ergonomic features....I simply expect more reason and logic from those who consider themselves "leaders".
It doesn't seem to matter if the issue is firearms, prayer in school, marriage equality or the misnomered 'war on terror'....our "leaders" fails us every time they start flapping their soup coolers.
Will you just SHUTUP! You must be insufferable to live with MrKnowEveryFuckingThingAboutGuns. Give it a rest already.
DeleteApologies. I often forget that facts are an uphill climb for some, especially when there is the smooth path of ill defined [or false] political rhetoric.
DeleteI don't see why you're angry.....low information voters should be pleased with the state of political affairs in the nation today.
I can see why you spend all your time at Immoral Minority instead of your own empty blog. At least here you get a response, your blog, not so much.
DeleteWow, that reply made you seem even more insufferable than your original comment. I would't even think that was possible.
DeleteOh, 6:24:
DeleteFeinstein is not "a dick." She and other public servants of integrity do not lie and do not "flap their soup coolers."
You are both stupid and self-righteous and lack basic skills of critical thinking and the ability to deal with complex situations.
How sad for you.
Insufferable insurgent we get it, you jerk off to guns booyah shut the fuck up already
DeleteI guess you listen to Rushbo & the angry garden gnome Mark a little too much. Rush has been trying to turn that phrase to mean anyone who did not vote republican in the last election.
DeleteIt actually was used to refer to people who were not paying attention any would vote for the republican party.
Impressive.....All this childish acrimony and vulgar rage hiding behind anonymity in one place. Only one person could even address the subject at hand.
DeleteLiz, if Feinstein doesn't lie, tell me where it's it’s legal to hunt humans.
Relax folks, Constitutional Insurgent is just having a tough time dealing with small dick syndrome. Unfortunately acting like a big dick is not going to help him.
DeleteHey, Constitutional Ignorant (and logic challenged) Idiot - the NRA kiss-up site is to the right - to the far right, off the face of the civilized earth.
Delete“We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds, and yet it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines,” she continued.
Delete10:06, you completely missed the point of Feinstein's statement.
Looking at Constitutional Insurgence's purple prose, it's obvious he got a thesaurus for his birthday when he was ten.
DeleteConstitutional Insurgent--
DeleteI can appreciate the basis of what you're trying to say. Political leaders do not get where they are without smearing the truth at one point or another.
I can also appreciate that you point out all guns will kill a person if fired at said person. It doesn't matter if it is a handgun, a shotgun, an AR15 or an AK47. Hell, there was a news article about a child who was killed by a pellet rifle. Statistically (based on the reports by the Brady Campaign), assault weapons are responsible for a very small percentage of gun violence compared to handguns. But you have to understand that politicians right now are more focused on preventing mass shootings as opposed to street crime.
An assault rifle has certain features that allows a person with little skill to take down a target or targets. Whether by supplying 30+ rounds (who needs target practice when you can just spray with bullets?), using armor-piercing rounds, being fully automatic, or enabling a person to scope and shoot a target from, say, a clock tower.
Of the 143 weapons involved in mass shootings from 1982-2012, forty-eight would become banned under the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013. Some of the remaining weapons involved were not even shot, but simply on the shooter at the time.
Politicians are trying to prevent tragedies like Newtown, Tuscon, Virginia Tech, and Aurora from happening again. Every time a new mass shooting is splashed across the front page it's breaking another record for lives lost. People are hoping that by banning guns, those who choose to incite violence will be far less likely to decimate their victims.
We understand that it is damn near impossible to completely stop gun violence. Even if a blanket gun ban were put in place, someone somewhere would have stockpiled them, hidden them, or bought one through illegal means. But to shrug and say, "well, we can't guarantee a 100% success, so we're not going to do anything" is akin to saying "we can't guarantee this dog can be house-trained, so we may as well not bother trying (and let our house smell like dog excrement)."
Cruz is an ass. Dianne is a class act.
ReplyDeleteI have watched Senator Feinstein for many years, and she is a model of what any sane person would want as a senator.
ReplyDeleteA vote of confidence from me to her on anything she does.
Cruz is a dick and a smarmy asshole.
ReplyDeleteAnd of course Sista Sayrah and cult love this smug teabagger asshole.
ReplyDeleteRE: Update. What's good about it passing if it will go no further? Just for a star on their record?
ReplyDeleteI've never seen Cruz speak b/4. Always thought he was butt ugly. He is also uniquely arrogant and condescending. What an a$$hole.
ReplyDeleteSenator Feintein would have nailed it if she had simply said, well thanks for that bit of unnecessary mansplaining, Teddy.
DeleteYeah, Mr. Fancy Pants Librul Alaska Blogger, I doubt you're man enough to wear even ONE "I'm a Sad Sack of Shit" or "Hey, Everybody, I'm a Douchebag!" button. Well, I got news for you, buddy boy, you're mocking a man who proudly wears TWO of each plus an American flag pin and THREE buttons reading "Good Lord, What A Fuckwad I Am!.
ReplyDeleteI bet you dont wear ANY buttons or pins, do you?
Ted Cruz is at least TWICE one-tenth the man you are or ever dream of being! You're all talk, Mister Blister, but the "honorable" senator from pre-secession Tejas talks the talk AND walks the walk!
Cruzin' For A Bruzin' 2016!!!
And he use them for a REAL purpose - to hold those douche ...ah.. teabags to the brim of his manly Walmart cowboy hat.
DeleteO’Donnell Obliterates ‘Liar From Texas’ Ted Cruz For ‘Embarrassing Himself’ During Feinstein Debate
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mediaite.com/tv/odonnell-obliterates-liar-from-texas-ted-cruz-for-embarrassing-himself-during-feinstein-debate/
Dianne Feinstein Tells Wolf Blitzer She ‘Felt Patronized’ By ‘Arrogant’ Ted Cruz During Senate Gun Debate
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dianne-feinstein-tells-wolf-blitzer-she-felt-patronized-by-arrogant-ted-cruz-during-senate-gun-debate/
Coulter Destroys Feinstein Over Cruz Debate On Hannity: ‘Liberal Women Should Not Be Able To Hold Office’
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/coulter-destroys-dianne-feinstein-over-cruz-debate-on-hannity-liberal-women-should-not-be-able-to-hold-office/
People, this is the time to contact your Senators! NOW, before they vote. Let them know how YOU feel about assault weapons and how you'd like them to vote on this issue. Do it today!!
ReplyDeleteFrom what I've heard, even those with their heads encamped on the right wing, mostly want to see sane gun restrictions.
ReplyDeleteBut, like everything else, the rotten bastards they helped get elected, pay no attention to their constituents' wants and needs, and just do what THEY want, once elected.
You would think that with all their whoopin' and hollerin' the Teapartiers would at least FOLLOW UP on the goons they elected, and make them toe the line.
Instead, it appears they just go back to watching "The Bachelor" and "Honey Boo Boo" after each election--figuring their job is DONE.
From Wikipedia:
ReplyDeleteWhite pulled out the revolver. He then fired shots at the mayor's shoulder and chest, tearing his lung. Moscone fell to the floor and White approached Moscone, poised his gun six inches from the mayor's head, and fired two additional bullets into Moscone's ear lobes, killing him instantly.[5] While standing over the slain mayor, White removed the four empty cartridges from his gun and refilled it with hollow-point bullets.
Witnesses later reported that they heard Moscone and White arguing, later followed by the gunshots that sounded like a car backfiring.
Dianne Feinstein,who was then President of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, saw White quickly exit Mayor Moscone's office from a side door and called after him. White sharply responded with "I have something to do first."
"White proceeded to his former office, and intercepted Harvey Milk on the way, asking him to step inside for a moment. Milk agreed to join him.
Once the door to the office was closed, White positioned himself between the doorway and Milk, pulled out his revolver and opened fire on Milk. The first bullet hit Milk's right wrist, as he tried to protect
himself. White continued firing rapidly, hitting Milk twice more in the chest, then fired a fourth bullet at Milk's head, killing him, followed by a fifth shot into his skull at close range.
White fled the scene as Feinstein entered the office where Milk lay dead. She grabbed his wrist for a pulse, her finger entering Milk's bullet wound. Horrified, Feinstein was shaking so badly she required
support from the police chief after identifying both bodies.[8]Feinstein then tearfully announced the murders to a stunned public, stating: "As President of the Board of Supervisors, it's my duty to make
this announcement. Both Mayor Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk have been shot and killed. The suspect is Supervisor Dan White."
someone should a) send this to Cruz and b) read it in his presence on the Senate floor. Fuck him. He deserve self-inflicted capital punishment.
DeleteFrom this day fourth I will now recognize the AR Simi automatic rifle and other similar rifles as a defense rifle and if need be I will use it to defend the United States constitution starting with the 2nd amendment
ReplyDeleteCPAC Desperately Tries To Square The GOP’s Circle With Latinos
ReplyDeleteWinning back Latino voters wasn’t a side issue on CPAC’s first day. It was the issue.
Organizers may have purged center-right speakers like Chris Christie from this year’s event, but when it came to immigration it was a whole other world. Panels, speeches, and breakout sessions galore featured Latino or pro-immigration Republicans who warned of impending doom if the party didn’t abandon its usual hardline ways.
It didn’t always go over well. The mere mention, by Texas Gov. Rick Perry, of calls to shift the party’s appeal to the growing Latino demographic drew boos from the crowd. But the overwhelmingly pro-reform schedule reflected deep-seated fears among conservative leaders that population trends could turn the GOP into a minority party for decades if the immigration issue isn’t addressed soon.
Perhaps not surprisingly, the most forceful speech on the topic came from a pollster, Whit Ayres, who all but fell to his knees and begged Republicans to pass comprehensive reform.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/cpac-desperately-tries-to-square-the-circle-with-latinos.php?ref=fpa
Caddell Unloads on 'Racketeering' GOP Consultants
ReplyDeletePat Caddell, the Fox News Contributor and Democrat pollster who engineered Jimmy Carter’s 1976 Presidential victory, blew the lid off CPAC on Wednesday with a blistering attack on "racketeering" Republican consultants who play wealthy donors like "marks."
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/14/Caddell-Blows-the-Lid-Off-CPAC-With-Blistering-Attack-on-Racketeering-Republican-Consultants
Feinstein was on the scene at one of the biggest American political assassinations of the post-60s era — the murder of George Moscone and Harvey Milk in San Francisco in November 1978. Feinstein was actually the first into Milk’s office and made a momentary and vain effort to revive Milk who was clearly already dead.
ReplyDeleteThe other part of this story was that Feinstein was then head of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. So Mayor Moscone’s death meant she was the new mayor.
I was a little boy growing up in California at the time, 9 years old. We lived in Southern California. But it was still a very big deal even there. And it came just a week or so after the Jonestown mass suicide, which was in Guyana but grew out of San Francisco and California, which added somehow to the sickness and horror of it. I remember the whole thing vividly. A very surreal and obviously tragic story, and even more surreal because the murderer wasn’t some random loner but a guy who himself had just resigned from the City Council.
The story is obviously part of the story of Harvey Milk, who was then the first openly gay person elected to anything anywhere in America. But Feinstein was also deeply part of it.
Here’s the clip many of us remember when Feinstein came outside City Hall to announce Milk and Moscone’s deaths …
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/03/the_rest_of_the_feinstein_story.php?ref=fpblg
Cruz has many aliass you should be aware of -
ReplyDeleteTed Kochsucking Cruz
Ted McCarthy Cruz
Ted Canadian-born Cruz
Many of us know men like this...they are so smart they are stupid. No one likes them but management, who finds them very useful...kinda like Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeleteMost of the time they get tired of being isolated and quit...but that is in the workplace.
Except Sarah Palin is an idiot!!! She's street smart and that is all I'll give her! Plus, she's a proven liar and fraud!
DeleteUsing Cruz's sarcastic logic (i.e., should we be regulating the 1st amendment too and restricting access to books?), he is apparently suggesting that publication of child pornography should be unfettered. (This point was made in a NYT editorial today.)
ReplyDeleteScarborough Skewers Ted Cruz’s ‘Willfully Ignorant’ Gun Rights Argument Intended To ‘Mislead’ Americans
ReplyDelete“Complete, utter ignorance about what the Second Amendment says.” That’s what Joe Scarborough took away from Sen. Ted Cruz‘s (R-TX) showdown with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) over the constitutionality of the stricter gun laws she’s been advocating. Questioning what Cruz learned in law school, Scarborough was harsh and blunt in his criticism of the “willfully ignorant” Cruz.
“Did they teach Ted Cruz to read what the Supreme Court said, especially in the landmark, the landmark decision regarding Second Amendment rights over 200 years was written in 2008?” he asked. Why would he use his seat on the Senate Judiciary Committee to “to put forward a willfully ignorant statement about this bill violating the Second Amendment, because it does not.”
Going on to question what Cruz took away from his Harvard Law School education (while noting, not ironically, “I don’t mean to keep going on and on here”), Scarborough was shocked to see Cruz use his position to “mislead millions of Americans.”
Cruz’s “lecturing” Feinstein on how her bill violates the Second Amendment is “just false.” This is “fact.”
“We’re not really talking about constitutional jurisprudence,” John Heilemann noted, “we’re talking about politics.” (Of course we are.) Cruz is simply staking out his turf “in the sweet spot of the most conservative, most populist, most red-meat Tea Party elements of his party.” (And does so with “disrespect and impudence.)
“I don’t mind people being condescending to me,” Scarborough asserted. “But when you’re condescending and you don’t even have the facts right,” that’s a problem. Noting Feinstein’s reaction to the fiery exchange, Al Sharpton agreed that Cruz was “patronizing.”
The Supreme Court “didn’t say it gave you the constitutional right to have magazines that can shoot a hundred rounds and it didn’t say you can have automatic or semiautomatic weapons, which is what he tried to say in the condescending way,” Sharpton added. You can disagree with the court, the panel agreed, but you can’t just state it as fact.
“I’m getting sick and tired of people telling me what the constitution says when they are ignorant of what the constitution says,” Scarborough argued. “I cut most people slack because they didn’t go to law school…I cut Ted Cruz no slack.”
He may be wrong on the facts, Willie Geist noted, but he’s on the right side of the vote for the time being.
“I would love for him to sit in a room filled with the parents of Newtown and make that stupid argument to them,” Mika Brzezinski asserted. “I feel sorry for people like him because they’re very limited.”
Take a look, via MSNBC:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/scarborough-skewers-ted-cruzs-willfully-ignorant-gun-rights-argument-intended-to-mislead-americans/
So many in the U.S. Congress, as part of the Republican party, are an embarrassment to this nation. Sincerely wish that folks would pay closer attention for whom they vote.
DeleteThis Cruz character has an ego that needs to be knocked down a bunch of pegs!!! I'm surprised he got to Congress. Know I'd never have marked my ballot for him. Pay closer attention Texans! Your state might go Democratic next election cycle!
Diane Feinstein Cuts off Ted Cruz’s Attempt to Mansplain the Constitution
ReplyDeleteJunior Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) was in the middle of mansplaining to Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) about how he cherry picks which amendments we put no restrictions on (guess which one?!) on Thursday, when Feinstein hoisted him on the protruding petard of his hubris.
Feinstein was introducing a bill that bans federal assault weapons, and you know how that issue sucks all of the brain cells out of Republicans until they’re left with nothing but NRA talking points… Well, it did it again.
Watch here:
...Yes, Ted, even though Diane is a woman, she does actually know some stuff. Shocking, I know. Whereas Ted, who has all of the advantages of being Harvard educated and male, and thus Republicanally superior by birth and an elitist to boot, takes zero personal responsibility for his inability to understand basic issues. Did Harvard not teach him or was he too lazy and entitled to learn? (Remember that Cruz thinks Commies are hiding out at Harvard so his mental state might be an issue here, but still, he’s a MAN! He KNOWS STUFF!)
We’ll let Chuck Schumer explain further to the junior Senator, “In reference to the question my colleague from Texas asked, would you limit books? Would you name specific books? It’s Constitutional within the ambit of the First Amendment to eliminate child pornography. And we have lots of laws that are very explicit about that. Very explicit. That are constitutional, that have been upheld as constitutional. Similarly, you can’t falsely scream fire in a crowded theater. Similarly, we have libel laws. Every one of these is an impingement on the sacred First Amendment, upheld as Constitutional. There are reasonable limits on each amendment, and I think it is anomalous, to put it kindly, for either side to interpret one amendment so expansively and another amendment so narrowly that it just doesn’t add up because your interpretation of the Constitution should be consistent.”
Translation for Ted: Please stop making a fool of yourself and pretending you don’t know basic things. Rights are not without limits. This, I’m sure, is BRAND NEW NEWS to a constitutional scholar. But in case Ted’s still confused, I direct him to former President Bush and the free speech “zones” or the attempted restrictions on Occupy’s free speech, including usage of cameras.
In fact, I’m glad the Senator brought this up, because it’s high time we had a discussion about the many rights Republicans don’t mind trampling on. The only super special one with no limits is the Second Amendment, unfettered by reality or safety or sanity.
Somehow, Republicans fear free speech but feel all Americans are entitled to weapons of mass destruction designed for war.
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http://www.politicususa.com/diane-feinstein-cuts-ted-cruzs-attempt-mansplain-constitution.html