Thursday, June 20, 2013

Ohio school board considers mandating that Creationism be taught alongside Evolution in science classrooms. Here we go again!

I find the idea of introducing Creationism into a science classroom in an effort to get students to "think critically" to be so absurd that it should not be uttered by ANYBODY living in 2013.

However this is obviously yet another attempt by those who place faith over intelligence to undermine learning in the hopes that they can keep the populace uneducated enough to buy their bullshit.

I am also once again enraged by the fact that these idiots keep misrepresenting the definition for a scientific theory, and instead mix it up, possibly on purpose, with a hypothesis. (You can read the definitions here.)

By the way Americans United has warned this Ohio school board that they are risking a lengthy court case: 

Any public school contemplating teaching creationism might as well just hang up a giant banner that reads “Sue Us Now,’” said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. “Courts have been very clear about this: creationism is fundamentalist religion, not legitimate science, and it has no place in science classrooms.”

Don't forget that Americans United were instrumental in keeping Intelligent Design (Creationism in sheep's clothing) out of Kansas elementary schools.


  1. Leland2:37 AM

    I find it incredibly difficult to understand why this should be "a lengthy court case". If courts have already ruled on this issue, why should it take a long time?

    And I find it absurdly funny that the group fighting this is headed by a minister!

    1. WakeUpAmerica6:20 AM

      Maybe by saying "lengthy court case" Americans United means it will be fought to the bloody end no matter how long it takes.

    2. Anonymous1:36 PM

      It's not fucking science. Or science of any kind. this is beyond silly. It's just plain stupid. It's fine to teach that shit in private religious schools or madrassas or whatever. But keep it out of the public schools, unless it's a historical literature class. It's theology, and unless it's taught as theology and not science, it's a disgrace to the education of our students.

      Next these fools will want their own periodic table of elements. What is the atomic weight of "Magic Swizzle Dust"? How is that nonsense going to help prepare someone for higher learning in any field, Hint: it ain't.

  2. Anonymous2:44 AM

    Good grief. Teach creationism in church. Teach science in public school. I love that that school board member wanted 'a supplement' to teach the Bible in science class. How about Jindal's texts? Go ahead, lady. I hope some kid in the class stands up and calls BS.

    1. WakeUpAmerica6:29 AM

      I find it peculiar that so many (not all) Christians are rabidly insecure in the teachings of their churches to the point that they have to limit the information to which they and their families are exposed outside of the safety of the churches. I picture them walking empty headed into church, filling their craniums with unsubstantiated "absolutes" and walking out with fingers in ears chanting, "Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala."

      From my perspective, the problem isn't so much believing in the teachings of Christ. It's the man-made doctrine of organized religion and the application of that doctrine that is the problem.

  3. Randall3:05 AM

    Maybe someone should attend these school board meetings where creationism is proposed and insist that The Book of Enoch be included as well.

    Insist that we need to teach that Enoch was raised corporeally up through the seven levels of Heaven by angels and was privy to the secrets of creation, including:
    the doors through which the sun and moon enter and leave the sky.
    The ranks of angels and monsters that live in the sky...

    And then when it is pointed out that The Book of Enoch is among the Apocrypha - suggest we teach that too:
    WHY were The Book of Enoch, The Forgotten Books of Eden: the First Book of Adam and Eve, The First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ... etc. - WHY are these books not included in the curriculum?

    And then perhaps we should teach why those books were edited out of the "final" version of the Bible at the Council of Nicea.

    Or maybe we should just insist that these poor, ignorant fools that want to include creationism in a school setting further their own education first. Perhaps they need to read the above mentioned books of the Apocrypha. And then if they still want to teach nonsense alongside science, perhaps we have their mental health tested.


    One more thing that fascinates me:
    Of every - EVERY person that I've talked to that thinks it is a good idea to teach the Bible in public schools - not ONE of them has read the Bible start-to-finish.

    Not one of them.

    1. Anonymous1:39 PM

      Or the Book of Mormon. Then listen to the evangelical Fundies screaming about teaching students "a bunch of made-up shit". Good point Fundies. You own that now.

  4. Anonymous4:40 AM

    Did you see that the prez wants to make the teaching of evolution a federal mandate and to bar the teaching of creationism?
    I may have gotten that wrong but I thought I saw that. I saw the headline at least!

    1. Leland5:19 AM

      4:40, as long as there are as many freaks supported by the extreme christian right sitting in Congress, it won't happen.

      Of course, the fact it shouldn't be necessary will be completely missed by those who are against such a mandate.

  5. Anonymous5:47 AM

    If creationism must be taught in the classroom, then science must be taught in the church.

    1. WakeUpAmerica6:16 AM

      oooooh, excellent point!

    2. WakeUpAmerica6:16 AM

      Would you consider putting a link on your page, so readers can easily donate to Americans United?

    3. Leland7:36 AM

      WakeUp? Just click on "warned this Ohio school board" highlighted above.

    4. Anonymous1:42 PM

      I want the Koran to be taught in public schools, too.

      Do I really? Hell, no. But it makes just as much sense as teaching Christianity or any other religious creed. Shit, teach em all, but not in science class.

  6. Anonymous6:23 AM

    I am both relieved and proud to announce that the Kansas State Board of Education announced that both evolution and climate change must be taught in our public schools. Of course, the fundamentalists are royally pissed-off.

    If we can keep the fundies off the Board, our children have a chance to get a good education though another GOP-generated problem is getting worse: our Governor is cutting funds to all levels of public education so he can give tax breaks to corporations and his wealthy backers.

  7. Anonymous8:12 AM

    Learn in school. Pray in church.

    So simple even a Fundamentalist should understand it.

  8. Anonymous8:42 AM

    Soooooo... if creationism is going to be taught alongside, shouldn't they cover EVERY creationist belief? Christians would shit themselves.

    1. Exactly! Every religion has their own story about how the world began. Let's teach 'em all!

  9. hedgewytch9:13 AM

    Still proud of the fact that I helped keep a fundamentalist parent out of our local school's decision making process when she wanted to have Creationism taught in the science class!

    I've been trying to get on the local school board for quite some time for this very reason. So far though, the community keeps voting back in the same people who aren't really doing anything every time because they know them, not because they are doing a good job for the school district. Sigh.

  10. Taxpayer dollars pay for public schools, not tithes. If they want to teach Bible class, go to church. Creationism is a religious belief, not science.

    1. Anonymous1:44 PM

      +1 a thousand times!

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  14. Anonymous3:48 PM

    I am pretty sure that both of my kids would have stood up and walked out of any class that started teaching creationism as science. And I would hope that most of the kids would do the same to make a point to the idiots on school boards and legislatures that are trying to cram this stuff into their classrooms. My daughter took a class in high school called Teen Issues as an elective. They got into some pretty controversial topics. The teacher invited a "Lets Talk" speaker (abstinence only advocates) as well as Planned Parenthood in to speak. When the Lets Talk speaker started telling the kids blatant lies about bodily functions, my daughter and a couple of other kids started calling her out on it. When she started slut-shaming a girl who had a baby, my daughter got up and walked out. The teacher was in full support and said she'd never have that group back to class again. Very proud.


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