Saturday, August 17, 2013

The GOP fear of the success of Obamacare is nothing new, in fact it goes back two decades. Of course then it was known as "Hillarycare."

Courtesy of Crooks and Liars:  

At its core, the Republicans' scorched-earth opposition to Obamacare has never been so much about "freedom" or "limited government" or any other right-wing ideological buzzword as it has been about political power, pure and simple. Now as for the past 20 years, Republicans have feared not that health care reform would fail the American people, but that it would succeed. Along with Social Security and Medicare, successful health care reform would provide the third and final pillar of Americans' social safety net, all brought you by the Democratic Party. To put it another way, the GOP was never really concerned about a "government takeover of health care", "rationing", "the doctor-patient relationship" or mythical "death panels," but that an American public grateful for access to health care could provide Democrats with an enduring majority for years to come.

But what Utah Senator Orrin Hatch called a "holy war" to block health care reform didn't start when Barack Obama took the oath of office in January 2009, but instead when Bill Clinton was inaugurated in 1993. It was then that former Quayle chief of staff and Republican strategist William Kristol warned his GOP allies that a Clinton victory on health care could guarantee Democratic majorities for the foreseeable future. "The Clinton proposal is also a serious political threat to the Republican Party," Kristol wrote in his infamous December 3, 1993 memo titled "Defeating President Clinton's Health Care Proposal," adding: 

"Its passage in the short run will do nothing to hurt (and everything to help) Democratic electoral prospects in 1996. But the long-term political effects of a successful Clinton health care bill will be even worse--much worse. It will relegitimize middle-class dependence for 'security' on government spending and regulation. It will revive the reputation of the party that spends and regulates, the Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests. And it will at the same time strike a punishing blow against Republican claims to defend the middle class by restraining government." 

And that, for Kristol, meant it had to be stopped at all costs: 

"The first step in that process must be the unqualified political defeat of the Clinton health care proposal. Its rejection by Congress and the public would be a monumental setback for the president; and an incontestable piece of evidence that Democratic welfare-state liberalism remains firmly in retreat."

Like I have said repeatedly the Republicans don't hate Obamacare because it will fail, they hate it because it will succeed. And that success spells doom for them.

And now we have proof that the Republican politicians are not fighting against Obamacare on behalf of their constituents. They are fighting against on behalf of their future.

And now you also know why they are already pulling their hair out at the prospect of a second Clinton administration.

The writing is on the wall and they can see it even from inside what Bill Maher refers to as their "Republican Bubble."

24 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:55 AM

    This is o/t, but it's Saturday and I won't be back here for much of the weekend.
    My observation is that Sarah's book "wants to put the Christ back in Christmas," yes?
    Well, as her very own book jacket reveals, Christ is front-and-center in
    "Christmas." It's all the other days in December and into January that Sarah thinks must also be called Christmas.

    But they're not! One holy day is the day of the birth of Jesus Christ (or the day now associated with his birth).
    All the rest of the days are simply happy, jolly days, non-denominational celebrations of the winter solstice, the Federal holiday of December 25. and the religious observations of various other groups that are scheduled during that time.
    Instead of querying each person I meet to find out his or her religious/non-religious preference, I give them all the benefit of the doubt with a very well-intentioned "Happy Holiday," without specifying which one.
    Because Christmas -- midnight to midnight on December 25 -- "belongs" to Christians, but the other 364 days of the years belong to all of us.

    So I say "Happy Day!" to you, and you, and you today, meaning that I"m wishing you well on this August 17th.I might do it again tomorrow, too.
    Please don't be offended. And if I say it to someone on Labor Day who's not marching in a parade, or on Halloween, when they're not dressed in costume, or on Memorial Day, when they're home barbequing and not marching in the local parade -- well, I mean it just the same.
    "Happy Holidays" to you all, whenever, and all the time, and what have you. "Peace on earth, good will to all men," to quote someone famous.

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    1. Anonymous7:51 AM

      No "DAY" in the belongs to any denomination. Does Haunkah "belong" to Jews? Ramadan to Muslims? The Solstice to Wiccans? Because that would mean that on those days, we would be required to wish everyone, whether or not they are of said religion (or whether or not the wisher was) the religion specific happy holiday.

      Yeah watch Xtians hads explode in 3-2-1-...

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    2. Anonymous8:18 AM

      Great Post, 6:55 -- and your are so right.

      Wishing a very 'Happy Day' to you, as well -- today and every day. ;)

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    3. Anonymous8:53 AM

      The part of Sarah's promotion that I like is her plan to restore Christmas to our school's pageants and concerts, along with public displays. Sarah loves to talk about being loyal to the Constitution but she forgets the part about separation of the state from religion. Some time ago, we stopped spending public tax dollars on one selected religion- in our public schools and in our government institutions. People can decorate their homes, their front lawns, their churches and anything else they want to, but please don't spend my tax dollars to promote one religion in public schools, where kids should be learning instead of practicing one religion. And that Fox meme of having to say "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays" is just plain stupid. Is that all that they have?

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  2. "Now as for the past 20 years, Republicans have feared not that health care reform would fail the American people, but that it would succeed. Along with Social Security and Medicare, successful health care reform would provide the third and final pillar of Americans' social safety net, all brought you by the Democratic Party."
    --------------------------------------------
    And so when they had their chance to reform health care for the first eight years of this century, so "that an American public grateful for access to health care could provide republicans with an enduring majority for years to come", did they do so?

    No, they did not. They started a war based on lies, sent thousands of Americans to die and to kill thousands upon thousands of Iraquis, made sure that the crooked low-bid/no bid contracts and war profiteering would greatly fatten their own pocketbooks by redistributing the country's treasury into their personal bank accounts, and tried to privatize social security by taking our social security withholding and redistributing it to wall street bankers for their personal gain.

    They are evil, bent on nothing more than pillaging and plundering this country until their is nothing left to steal. And their helper goons with their obsession over women's reproductive lives and what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes and who the consenting adults are that they do it with, are too stupid to realize that they will never be anything but the hired help to the one percenters and will be tossed outside the gates just like the rest of us when they are of no further use.

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    1. Anonymous9:52 AM

      Good point, nefer. You remind us, once again, that republicans not only do not want democrats to benefit, they do not even want their own republican constituents to benefit. They want ONLY their cronies, those who pay them huge (as in, ginormous) campaign sums, to benefit. In the republican politician mind-set, even their fellow republicans can 'go to hell', because they couldn't care less about them.

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  3. Anonymous7:16 AM

    I so hope Hillary Clinton runs because she will win and we'll have another eight years of a Dem in the White House. I want the Obamacare Law to be in place and show its effectiveness as will as provide help to so many that cannot obtain health insurance currently.

    The Republicans are strictly political as this article notes and care nothing about American people across the nation. They need to be voted out of office every opportunity we have across the nation. They are anti women too and have zero reason to hold office anywhere - nationally, state or local levels.

    Remember to vote and research your candidates prior to go to the voting booth! Each individual vote is so very important!

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    1. Anonymous7:54 AM

      I would disagree with Kristol on one specific point, ACA is not the third leg. It is an expansion of Medicare to all ages. The third leg is public education - and we can see what is happening there. Watch the expansion of athletics (hired gladiators) in public universities and even middle schools. Watch the move for more online ed. Watch the attacks on the liberal arts, and the humanities specifically.

      TeaTHUGlicans think job training= education.

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  4. Anonymous7:49 AM

    Fox Won't Produce Hillary Clinton Project

    The same day the Republican National Committee agreed to a resolution that barred the party from participating in debates with NBC and CNN, Fox Television Studios reportedly has canceled plans to produce a miniseries centered on Hillary Clinton for NBC.

    The Hollywood Reporter reported Friday that Fox will not produce the miniseries, which will star Diane Lane. The planned miniseries has caused something of a revolt among members of the NBC News staff, as anchor Chuck Todd predicted it would be a "total nightmare."

    The RNC immediately jumped on the news here as a sign that NBC should cancel the production of the miniseries.

    “We’ve said from the beginning that what matters is who is airing the production promoting Hillary Clinton ahead of a 2016 presidential campaign," RNC spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said in a statement.

    "Between NBC reporters vocally opposing the miniseries and now the production studio pulling its product, it’s clear NBC’s talking points are falling apart and they should cancel their Hillary Clinton production."

    Earlier on Friday, the RNC passed unanimously a resolution that will prevent NBC and CNN from hosting Republican primary debates unless the networks cease production of their projects on Clinton.

    The vote to pass the resolution came after Priebus delivered a fiery speech that earned him multiple standing ovations.

    "The media overplayed their hand this time. It was so obvious even liberals saw it. After we took a stand, we found some unlikely allies on the left," Priebus told a crowd of delegates and RNC officials.

    "Did you ever think you'd read The New York Times' Maureen Dowd writing, 'Reince is right?'"

    http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-rnc-debates-fox-produce-nbc-abc-2013-8

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  5. Anonymous8:10 AM

    Conservatives Revolt As GOP Tries To Calm Obamacare Shutdown Mania

    Just when they seemed to have the situation under control, Republican leaders are facing the wrath of conservatives who are furious that the heads of the party aren’t interested in risking a government shutdown over Obamacare this fall.

    Conservative anxieties over the Affordable Care Act are reaching a boil as the law’s major provisions are set to take effect in the coming months. And an all-out grassroots mobilization during the month-long August recess by wealthy right-leaning groups like FreedomWorks and Heritage Action appears to be having an impact. Republican lawmakers have said their constituents are demanding they hold the line.

    “I’m hearing a lot of anger that is right beneath the surface, ready to erupt,” said veteran Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX), according to The Hill. Burgess, who has influence within his caucus on health policy, said the support for the defunding push was “virtually unanimous.”

    The Senate Conservatives Fund, a tea party group founded by former Sen. Jim DeMint, planned to launch a statewide campaign targeting Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who is up for re-election next year, and aimed at making him “feel the heat” over Obamacare. The Kentuckian recently observed that a government shutdown “won’t stop Obamacare.”

    The shutdown threat is being led by Sens. Marco Rubio (R-FL), Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Mike Lee (R-UT). “I think we should fund the government. I just don’t think we should fund ObamaCare,” Rubio said Thursday in Pensacola, flanked by businessmen who spoke out against the law.

    Meanwhile, FreedomWorks has been keeping a tally of where GOP lawmakers stand on the issue. And Heritage Action’s CEO Michael Needham questioned the fortitude of House Republicans for backing away on the Obamacare shutdown push.

    “Washington loves to play this game of saying something can’t be done,” he said on C-SPAN’s “Newsmakers” program. “Politicians like to set expectations as low as possible so they can’t help but trip over them.”

    Republican leaders have sought to pull their members back from the brink and impress upon them that the strategy is doomed to fail, and that not even a government shutdown would stop funding for vast chunks of Obamacare that aren’t subject to the annual appropriations process. And they’re correct: in order to actually postpone or weaken the core elements of law, President Obama would have to sign legislation that was passed by both chambers of Congress. Neither he nor Democrats have any intention of letting that happen. To persuade them to let the shutdown hostage go, senior Republicans have floated the idea of instead taking the debt ceiling hostage and threatening to let the country default if Democrats don’t agree to demands like unwinding Obamacare and dollar-for-dollar spending cuts.

    But they’re facing a world of hurt from the conservative base.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/08/conservatives-revolt-obamacare-shutdown.php?ref=fpblg

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    1. Sally in MI9:16 AM

      My God. Is there no end to the ruthlessness of these people? How have they managed to convince people with no health insurance that they don't really want it? Meanwhile, when they NEED it, and they will, the rest of us pay? And the debt ceiling? Golly, GOP, how about returning your salaries for the months you haven't passed a damn thing in the past five years...that would cover the money you have already spent, wouldn't it? Morons. And they think we are even dumber than they are.

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  6. Anonymous8:49 AM

    I have nothing against ObamaCare. However, I wish that the hospitals, who pay no taxes and are now corporately owned, would lose their tax exemption. That would pay for Obama Care. Everyone is scared of the AMA et al. Why should I have to pay taxes on this when Obama is scared to confront this situation.

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    1. Sally in MI9:13 AM

      When 'churches' who preach against this country, lose their money grabbing ability, we'll talk.

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    2. Anonymous10:53 AM

      I am not opposed to anything, including PACs, having to pay tax.

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  7. Anonymous8:51 AM

    Rep. Dan Webster (R-Fla.) confronted some unruly crowd members who mocked his remarks on health care at a meeting Thursday.

    During a gathering of constituents in Winter Haven, Fla., Webster began to respond to a question about his 40 votes to defund the Affordable Care Act. "I believe that Obamacare is bad for America ... and so does the president," Webster said.

    But in a video of the event provided to Think Progress by advocacy group Health Care for America Now (HCAN) and its local Florida partner Organize Now, an audience member can be heard telling Webster to "stop lying."

    "No, he does not!" says a voice. Another attendee can be heard yelling that Webster should "tell the truth."

    At one point, the host of the event intervenes to plead for the audience to respect Webster.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/16/dan-webster-mocked_n_3769354.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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    1. Sally in MI9:12 AM

      Respect him? Maybe when the GOP starts to respect the intelligence of the voters, we will return the respect. Their lying and faking and whining...all so childish, and all so harmful to us. And Kristol is the genius who saw Palin as the answer to the GOP wet dream..a female, a so-called conservative, a Governor, and hey, she has a huge "Christian" family to boot. Wanna bet he never saw Brissy pregnant, nor checked into any of the ethics charges? Nope...he was blinded by his grasp for power, and he obviously has never had the best interests of the nation in mind..just power for the GOP and corps and the rich white guys.

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    2. Anonymous10:55 AM

      Palin was his "dirty shiksa." He is lucky to have any family talking to him at all.

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  8. Anonymous9:00 AM

    You keep waiting for "the shoe to drop."

    That sooner or later, the fumducks who are running around saying its a "socialist plot" to allow the general populace to enjoy the type of healthcare that the members of congress do, will suddenly say, "OH....wait..."

    Its really hard not to feel superior to such people.

    Especially as they are the same ones who cried vehemently that the rich should not have to pay a fair share of taxes...and who spoke of how lowering their taxes even MORE would somehow magically produce more revenue for the government.

    You CAN fool lots of people, all of the time, obviously.

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  9. Anonymous9:12 AM

    O/T McCain fined for 2008 campaign finance violations, not nearly enough.
    http://blogs.rollcall.com/moneyline/fec-fines-mccain-presidential-campaign-80000/

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  10. Anonymous9:35 AM

    How Conservatives’ Attacks On Obamacare Accidentally Ended Up Expanding Abortion Access

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/08/16/2480701/conservatives-attacks-obamacare-abortion-access/

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  11. Anonymous9:39 AM

    Town Hall Heckles Congressman Over Obamacare: ‘Stop Lying!’

    But Rep. Daniel Webster (R-FL) got more than he bargained for this week when he faced an angry crowd in Winter Haven, Florida, who urged him to “stop lying” about Obamacare. The town hall crowd was relatively subdued and respectful, with only a few grumbled of “misleading,” until Webster got to his main point. “I believe that Obamacare is bad for America,” the congressman said, “and so does the president.”

    At that point, the town hall audience exploded into objection, with one loud voice asking, “What about the seniors in your district?” Another voice chimed in with, “What about us?”

    An event official had to step in to ask the crowd to quiet down and let Webster speak, but he couldn’t get out more than a few words, before one man shouted, “Well, tell him to stop lying!” followed by “You want to shut us up.”

    Webster resumed his remarks, explaining to people that even if they are able to get health care plans with lower premiums, they will end up paying more “out of pocket,” a charge that audience was clearly not buying.

    He did manage to get a smattering of applause at the end, when he laid out his “three principles” of health care: “the care we need, at a price we can afford, from the doctor we choose.”

    Watch video below, via YouTube:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/town-hall-crowd-heckles-congressman-over-obamacare-stop-lying/

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  12. Anonymous9:42 AM

    Koch brothers thrive on healthcare confusion

    Earlier this week, Reince Priebus, commenting on the Affordable Care Act, said, "People know what Obamacare is. It's European, socialist-style type health care." The quote struck me as fairly hilarious because the second sentence helps debunk the first -- anyone who thinks the federal U.S. system is in anyway similar to European, socialist-style type health care clearly has no idea what "Obamacare" is.

    The truth is, most Americans remain confused about the basics, and the Koch brothers' Americans for Prosperity apparently hope to make matters much worse on purpose.

    Last month, AFP invested $1 million in support of a remarkably dishonest ad campaign, hoping to mislead Americans about the health care system, and this week, the right-wing group is at it again, making a six-figure ad buy in support of a radio ad.

    The problem, of course, is that the message of the ad is pure garbage. Salon called it the "stupidest anti-Obamacare campaign ever," and given some of the advertising in recent years, that's no small claim.

    The spot features a woman voice that tells listeners, "Two years ago, my son Caleb began having seizures ... if we can't pick our own doctor, how do I know my family is going to get the care they need?"

    In reality, there's simply nothing in the Affordable Care Act that stops consumers from choosing their own doctor. Literally, not one provision. Under a variety of HMOs, there are limits on out-of-network physicians, but that was an American norm long before "Obamacare" came around.

    For that matter, if you're a parent of a kid with seizures, the Affordable Care Act is perhaps the best friend you've ever had -- not only does the law protect you and your family's coverage, but it extends protections to those with pre-existing conditions, and ends annual and lifetime caps. And since treating children with seizures can get a little pricey, that's important.

    So why are the Koch brothers saying largely the opposite? Because they hope to use deceptions to scare people. It's as simple as that.

    Greg Sargent highlighted the other most obvious misleading claim:

    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/08/16/20051963-koch-brothers-thrive-on-healthcare-confusion?lite

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  13. Anonymous9:54 AM

    President Barack Obama is pledging to do everything he can to make sure the new health care law works the way he intended.

    In his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama is criticizing congressional Republicans, who he says are trying to confuse people about the law. He targets other Republican opponents for threatening to eliminate funding for the law or shut down the government if they don't get their way.

    The president says a lot of Republicans think he'll suffer if they make the law fail. But if that happens, he says they'd just be "sticking it" to the people.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/obama-health-care-law_n_3772421.html

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  14. Anonymous10:46 AM

    Sarah Palin cast her lot with the Tea Party when she called Obamacare "death panels," singling out her parents and Trig for a terrible fate just because they were not productive members of society. (Hey, Chuck and Sally, are you going to let Sarah insult you like that?) I didn't notice Chuck and Sally giving up their social security and medicare. I didn't see one member of the Tea Party make a great show of tearing up their social security and medicare cards, the way that protesters tore up their draft cards to protest the Vietnam war. When we saw photos of Tea Party people (I liked it when we called them Teabaggers), a majority of them appeared to be of an age to be collecting social security and medicare, the very "nanny state" programs that they were protesting. A number of them were disabled enough to require mobility devices, which we are paying for through our taxes. What a bunch of hypocrites!

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