Thursday, October 17, 2013

Perhaps the biggest winner in the Tea Party's failed attempt to get the government to default is NOT President Obama or even the American people. Perhaps it is a certain ex-Secretary of State.

Courtesy of the National Journal:

 In the innermost sanctum of Clintonland, it is difficult to imagine that Hillary and Bill, two of the savviest politicians in the country, are not pinching themselves to make sure that it's all real. Perhaps they're dancing a jig together, or knocking back shots and howling at the moon out of sheer, giddy joy at their good luck. (OK, Hillary's not howling, but Bill might be.) Or maybe they are just quietly kvelling over the latest turn of events. 

Because the trend lines are unmistakable, and they're looking better all the time: If she wants to run in 2016, Hillary Rodham Clinton could have the easiest walk into the White House of any candidate in either party since, well, one has to go back a very long way. Maybe to Reagan in '84. LBJ in '64, or Eisenhower in '52, or even FDR in 1932, 1936 and 1940. The presidency is looking like it's hers to lose, more than ever. 

The reasons are becoming more obvious with each passing crisis of Republicanism, but are even starker now in the wake of the GOP's embarrassing implosion over the shutdown and debt-ceiling fight. This is an opposition party in such a state of extreme dysfunction that talk of a third-party split in 2016 is almost irrelevant. Why would you need a third-party split to win—as Bill did, recall, cheating George H.W. Bush out of a second term in 1992 thanks to the Ross Perot candidacy—when the base and establishment of the GOP are no longer on speaking terms? 

The demographic numbers tell a grim tale for any potential GOP candidate at the same time as they look like manna from electoral heaven for Hillary. The Republican Party, still in the grip of tea-party extremism, is more and more becoming the party of disaffected and aging white voters. Even many Republican strategists are conceding that no GOP presidential nominee can win that way. But the party is not building itself a bigger tent fast enough: Strapped down by House extremists who can't think beyond the demands of their scarlet-red districts, or beyond the next two years, the GOP is not likely to embrace immigration reform despite Marco Rubio's efforts, thus continuing to alienate the burgeoning Hispanic vote that so doomed Romney. As my colleague Ron Brownstein wrote recently: "Absent big GOP gains with minorities, [Clinton] could win, even comfortably, just by maintaining Obama's showing with whites … [But] the first 2016 polling instead has generally shown her trimming Obama's deficit among whites both nationally and in key states." 

GOP strategists will say they're changing the rules, cutting the number of primary debates so the next Republican nominee is not subjected to the same "traveling circus" (as national chairman Reince Priebus called it) that Romney was. But that's not going to change the tenor of those debates, in which the candidates will have to outflank each other on the right. They also say, well, you'll see, the tea party movement is fading, or at least becoming more manageable. But it's not, as we saw when 144 Republicans in the House voted against the reopening of the government and extension of the debt ceiling Wednesday night, costing John Boehner the support of most of what used to be known as "his" caucus. More to the point, several of those who might be considered serious GOP 2016 contenders for the presidency also voted in favor of the first default in American history in order to stay in the tea party's good graces, including Paul Ryan, Cruz, Rubio and Rand Paul (supplying the first fodder for those Hillary 2016 attack ads). We'll no doubt see a resumption of GOP extremism in coming months when the two parties battle over spending cuts leading up to the next debt-ceiling deadline on Feb. 7. The tea party is still dictating terms to the GOP establishment, and those terms are just too conservative for the general electorate. And who is now the point man for the GOP in budget negotiations? Ryan.

You know I had this very same thought earlier this morning. 

We have already seen the Republicans losing support among virtually every group in America besides older white guys, and essentially every move they make only causes their poll numbers to fall off even further.

In fact I think that the one thing I kind of worried about concerning the Clinton campaign, the ability of the Republicans to dredge up tons of ugly oppositional research about Bill and his lady friends, the impeachment, and possibly some financial irregularities within the Clinton Foundation, are now, in my opinion, far less of a concern.

I mean let's face it, who would do that research? The Heritage Foundation? The Club for Growth? Freedom works? They have all seen their reputations damaged by this shutdown deal, and if they go on the attack it will be quite simple to connect the dots to demonstrate just how underhanded they are and to what lengths they will go to destroy a politician that they don't like.

So when the attacks come all we have to do is say "Consider the source," and move on to a real issue.

So yes I think that the White House is Hilary's for the taking, now more than ever.

34 comments:

  1. Anonymous5:10 PM

    Oh, that Refrigerator in Wasilla will get a lot of dents. Hillary goes to the Whitehouse, and Sarah goes to Rainbow Bay. BWAHAHAHAHA.

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  2. Have to disagree - there were NO winners - the American people were saved from a nightmare of epic proportions by the sanity of the President and the Democrats in congress - but no-one won.

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    1. Anonymous6:21 PM

      I agree, there are no winners. Just watching the Presidents speech today reminded me just how destructive the tea party is. How they have harmed the economy in just 16 days is both disturbing and unacceptable. This needs to be dealt with in the next elections and people are going to have to come out even stronger than the Presidential election. The harm that these tea partiers are doing is astronomical. These radicals need to be dealt with by the majority of the american people who accept and respect what this administration is accomplishing.

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  3. Anonymous5:27 PM

    I'm so sick of this shit I could puke.

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  4. Anonymous5:37 PM

    hillary clinton/elizabeth warren ( or vice versa, that, or one or the other ) 2016 !!!

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    1. Anonymous5:41 PM

      Considering that the story is that the men in government created the problem, and that the women came together and found a way out of the morass, I'm thinking two women running our country could be twice as good for our future :)

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  5. Anonymous5:46 PM

    O/T Palin tonight on The Kelly File

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/2751212090001/sarah-palin-says-republicans-needs-to-stand-united/?playlist_id=2694949842001

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    1. Anonymous7:21 PM

      I really don't care what that idiot says or does

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    2. Anonymous10:12 PM

      I always watch Sarah with the sound off. She was really high tonight with Kelly what's her name. I loved the expression on Kelly's face - it looked like WTF are you talking about. Sarah was so high she kept talking over the interviewerer. Three times Kelly tried to ask her questions and Sarah ran her motor mouth at high speed.

      Wow -

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  6. Anonymous5:57 PM

    Gryphen

    Holy shit Palin has memorized lines and when Kelly tried to cut her off few times and ask her a Q she wanted to recites her lines.

    BTW is she trying for Mother Mary role?

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/palin-tells-megyn-kelly-gop-senators-should-be-primaried-defends-shutdown-fight/

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  7. Anonymous6:01 PM

    LOL THE Quitter has memorized her lines for tonight's 3 mts interview:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/palin-tells-megyn-kelly-gop-senators-should-be-primaried-defends-shutdown-fight/

    BTW she is trying for the upcoming Mother Mary's role?

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  8. Anonymous6:02 PM

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/palin-tells-megyn-kelly-gop-senators-should-be-primaried-defends-shutdown-fight/

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  9. Anonymous6:09 PM

    Gryphen

    Save you time some poor soul on net has taken great pains :

    “I think that remark is one of his more out of touch remarks that we’ve heard in in recent uh days, uh no what embolden our enemies and what empowered competitors was his promise to fundamentally transform America from being a a solvent, free, exceptional country into something that we’re not going to recognize, also what has emboldened enemies is he, with doubling of our debt since he’s been elected, putting on a path towards bankruptcy and then locking up pipelines and resources that will result in us being more reliant on foreign imports for energy, and then of course, he, having left behind, his administration left behind our brave men in Benghazi to be murdered, and then of course there’s Syria where he promised to bomb Syria because in that civil war, Syria was going to bomb Syria and then we never heard another word again about his threat to bomb in a foreign civil war and then of course, most recently Megyn, he, using our military, those who would fight against our enemies, our military our vets, shutting down their memorials and holding them hostage in terms of budget deals, threatening to withhold paychecks from our brave men and women.”

    What? The? Hell?

    Watch it again. I know, I know! But this time...keep your eyes on Megyn's face.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/palin-tells-megyn-kelly-gop-senators-should-be-primaried-defends-shutdown-fight/#disqus_thread

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    1. Anonymous6:41 PM

      I never listened to a word Palin said, just watched Kelly's face the whole time: two beauty pageant veterans, one said to have brains, the other psychotic, but both of whom cannot abide each other (which may be the brains thing). When Kelly valiantly attempted to wrangle Palin back into the English language, Palin was determined to not go, and when Kelly insisted Palin was very careful to keep deliberately shaking that word salad all over Kelly for ten full seconds! It starts at 1 minute 25 and it's a keeper.

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    2. Holy mother of satan but what is that vomitous mess spewing from Palin?

      I haven't watched the video yet but the stills look like Palin is wearing a paper tablecloth. And what possessed her to make herself up into some sort of ethnic parody?

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    3. Anonymous7:17 PM

      comment from mediaite:
      Ando918 Robert Dobbs
      • an hour ago



      New Pew poll says that Sarah Palin has very high appeal amongst Republican / Tea Partiers with an education of high school or less. She and Ted Cruz polled higher in support amongst that group than any other Republicans. Not surprising.

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    4. Here's the still--no, not "steel"--this really is a still--of Palin and Kelly that sums up Palin's appearance:

      http://s948.photobucket.com/user/Lumpy_bucket/media/10-17-20139-18-25PM.jpg.html

      I'll add that after Kelly insisted on asking Palin a question, Palin went into her little girl singsong persona. Chills me to the bone every time.

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    5. Anonymous7:27 PM

      love this pee ponder's observation,

      polarfan
      Watched her interview tonight and she's being nice -this lady is loaded!!

      My thought exactly!!

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    6. Anita Winecooler8:31 PM

      Sarah's come undone. Finally. I have a feeling she'll self destruct if she doesn't take a break from her vitriol. She's stewing in her juices big time!

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  10. Anonymous6:09 PM

    I do really feel that Hillary is the most qualified for the next presidential nomination. Not sure who she will likely run up against in the Democratic Party but she does have a lot of experience in the white house and with holding her secretary of state position. I think Obama is totally setting her up for the whitehouse. I was previously feeling the people had enough of the Clintons but with the amount of damage the tea party and repubs are doing the Clintons are looking good once again. I hope her health remains good and maybe she might think about losing a little weight if she thinks she wants to take this on.

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    1. There are a dozen democrats more qualified than any GOP possibles - I just don't see what lots of other folks seem to see in Hilary. I'll hold judgement and allow the current President to continue leading the country where it needs to go.

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    2. Anonymous10:48 PM

      7:36 i agree.

      i'll start out by saying 'i could be wrong', but...i really dont think hillary will be the next president. i dont even think she will win the dem nomination, and that is assuming she even runs, which i think is about a 50/50 to begin with. hillary is viewed as strongly liberal, much more so than obama, even though thats not the way he is painted by fox. this country will be voting in a centrist, like they did in obama. count on it. it is most likely the next president will be a 'center' white male, doesnt matter which party. exception to white would be if colin powell were to run (i have not heard any indications that he has any political ambitions though). if there is a christy/powell "type" ticket, the repubs will run away with the white house.

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  11. Anonymous6:18 PM

    I recall about one month ago Hillary warning the GOP not to take the shut down path they were threatening. She said "Remember, the last time you did this it didn't turn out so well for the GOP."
    Stupid grandstanding fucks ignored her.

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  12. O/T I would like to take a moment to remember a great lady who saw all this coming mo4e than 20 years ago. Annete

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  13. Anonymous6:40 PM

    Pshaw. Good luck trying to use the impeachment AGAINST her....

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  14. Anonymous6:49 PM

    Cook Report Moves 14 House Races Towards Democrats Following Shutdown

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cook-report-moves-14-house-races-closer-to-democrat-favorability-following-shutdown

    A New Poll Shows The Republican Party Has Completely Collapsed in Virginia

    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/17/poll-shows-republican-party-completely-collapsed-virginia.html

    McAuliffe Widens Lead Over Cuccinelli In New Poll

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mcauliffe-widens-lead-over-cuccinelli-in-new-poll

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  15. I have a feeling she'd wipe the floor with them if they tried to pull a family values move against her and Bill. She's one woman who would make them live to regret it.

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  16. She can't even answer a basic question. Megyn should start with "What is your name", "how old are you" "where do you live" - just to get the same stupid robot replies.

    Why did they put her back on the payroll?

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  17. Anonymous8:00 PM

    I saw Hillary on C-Span for a QA session when she won the 2013 Chatham House Prize. She was all together and showed a depth of knowledge and experience that NOBODY on the R side can compete with - not the bully from Jersey and not the shrub brother from FL and certainly not ANY of the current repub members of congress that have hinted they might run.

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  18. Anita Winecooler8:36 PM

    Hillary has nothing to worry about. Who will they put up against her? Seriously, the GOP is it's worst enemy. If, by chance, she doesn't run, the Democrats have ladies and men who are qualified to run and beat whomever they choose.

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  19. Anonymous10:32 PM

    OH OH Looks like Cruz is in big trouble:

    Ted Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Holding Company

    Texas Republican Senator Ted Cruz potentially violated ethics rules by failing to publicly disclose his financial relationship with a Caribbean-based holding company during the 2012 campaign, a review of financial disclosure and company documents by TIME shows. The relationship originated with a $6,000 investment Cruz made more than a decade ago in a Jamaican private equity firm founded by his college roommate.

    Read the full report @

    Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/18/ted-cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-jamaican-holding-company/#ixzz2i3KOH9m1


    http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/18/ted-cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-jamaican-holding-company/#ixzz2i3K2O9TK

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  20. Anonymous5:44 AM

    Don't underestimate Heritage/Koch/et al. They'll spend tens to hundreds of millions on attack ads and some will stick because they're masters at marketing and too many Americans are know-nothings.

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  21. I'm chuckling to myself a little bit, because if HRC as Prez comes to pass, we all know who will be the REAL First Dude.

    Never mind that puny pretender from Alaska, spouse of a quitter.

    Quitter: something Hillary never has been and never will be.

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