Tuesday, December 10, 2013

Sarah Palin demonstrating her ignorance about Thomas Jefferson in her own words.

The above is from Palin's visit to Liberty University last Thursday. Where Palin did her best to lower the IQ of the already logic averse student body that attends the "school."

Here is how the Washington Monthly covered this portion of her speech: 

Palin said Jefferson would likely agree that secularists had set their sights on destroying the religious themes in Christmas celebrations. 

“He would recognize those who would want to try to ignore that Jesus is the reason for the season, those who would want to try to abort Christ from Christmas,” she said. “He would recognize that, for the most part, these are angry atheists armed with an attorney. They are not the majority of Americans.” 

Palin said there was a double standard that protected atheists at the expense of the religious. 

“Why is it they get to claim some offense taken when they see a plastic Jewish family on somebody’s lawn - a nativity scene, that’s basically what it is right?” she said. “Oh, they take such offense, though. They say that it physically even can hurt them and mentally it distresses them so they sue, right?” 

“But heaven forbid we claim any type of offense when we say, ‘Wait, you’re stripping Jesus from the reason, as the reason for the season,’ but heaven forbid we claim any type of offense,” Palin said. “So that double standard, I think Thomas Jefferson would certainly recognize it and stand up and he wouldn’t let anybody tell him to sit down and shut up.”

The Washington Monthly then went on to provide a couple of Jefferson quotes that indicate Palin's complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the Founding Father.  

“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.” -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802 

“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.” -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

What's more, Jefferson was famously so unimpressed with  the New Testament that he took a razor and cut out all of the miracles attributed to Jesus, and the parts that he considered pure BS, and put together the Jefferson Bible dedicated to the philosophy of Jesus.

No birth in a manger, no wise men, no walking on water, no healing the sick, no bringing the dead back to life, and no resurrection after the crucifixion.

So exactly HOW does Palin imagine that Jefferson would get his panties in a wad over people celebrating a holiday that does not fall anywhere near the birthday of Jesus, without saying the words "Merry Christmas?"

P.S. This is how the Washington Monthly began their arcticle:

If you could turn stupid into a fuel, you could use Sarah Palin to leave the Solar System.

That about sums it up, don't you think?

83 comments:

  1. I have a copy of the Jefferson Bible. It’s small. What’s left are the thoughts of a wise man (or men), and those thoughts would fit into Buddhism quite well.

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    1. Anonymous5:20 AM

      Well said, Darlene!

      When Palin says:- “Why is it they get to claim some offense taken when they see a plastic Jewish family on somebody’s lawn", she just doesn't get it. The objection isn't to a private citizen erecting Christmas decorations on their lawns, it's when it is done on public property that it becomes a problem. She must see the difference; if not, she is a complete idiot.

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    2. Anonymous6:15 AM

      She IS a complete idiot. But then we've all known that for years. And no, she will never see the difference, ever. She is not capable of being a real human being.

      But you have to admit, that's one of the most life like blow up dolls ever.

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    3. Anonymous9:29 AM

      6:15am

      If Mrs. Palin is a blow up doll she''s starting to look like she has a puncture.

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    4. For real. Looks like Norman Bates got a hold of it.

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    5. Anonymous6:41 PM

      @5:20 your problem, like the rest of us is that you are using a logic i.e. the problem is public vs private property. However if she admits this, there would no war on Christmas and she wouldn't be able to con her cult members out of their money.

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  2. Sally in MI4:27 AM

    Not only that, but no women were involved in the writing of ANY of the documents, including her misread Bible, and old Thomas would indeed have told Sarah to sit down, shut up,,and serve the coffee. I bet slave Sally Hemmings had more of value to say than Sarah Palin ever could.

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    1. Leland4:44 AM

      Sally, as with so many other things (everything?) SP wouldn't know who Sally Hemmings was if she were TOLD!

      She would merely deny it.

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  3. Ailsa4:43 AM

    I wonder how she'll like this -

    "Gov. Rick Scott’s (R) office has approved the request of a self-proclaimed “militant atheist” to install an 8-foot-tall Festivus pole made of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer cans in the Florida State Capitol building."

    Seems like the Governor got hoisted on his own petard.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/09/gov-rick-scott-allows-militant-atheist-to-erect-beer-can-festivus-pole-at-florida-capitol/

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  4. Anonymous4:55 AM

    "If you could turn stupid into a fuel, you could use Sarah Palin to leave the Solar System".

    I love that!

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    1. Anonymous6:05 AM

      Me too- priceless!

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  5. Anonymous5:21 AM

    Sarah Palin is a traitor to the USA and should be in jail!

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    1. Anonymous9:09 AM

      Boot her out and see if she can find somewhere else that will have her toxicity.

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  6. Randall5:23 AM

    "What do you think that Thomas Jefferson would say to those who think that Americans shouldn't have nativity scenes in public places..."

    The lie. The big lie. The truth doesn't support their argument so they have to lie...

    Atheists don't have a problem with nativity scenes in "public places"...
    Like your own lawn
    Or in front of your own church.

    But THINKING Americans DO have a problem with nativity scenes ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT.

    Now, Sarah might not be lying...
    Sarah Palin very well might just be too stupid to know that.
    And maybe that guy interviewing her is that stupid, too.

    But you know damned well that many right-wing loudmouth War on Christmas drum-beaters like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh know better.

    When O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Beck and others spout the "public places" BS - they know they're lying.
    And they also know that most of their listeners are too stupid to know they're lying.

    ...like Sarah Palin.

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    1. A lot of public places don't erect religious artifacts but it has nothing to do with the government.

      The insufferable witch is stupid as hell because god made her that way.

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  7. Anonymous5:27 AM

    Talking out her ass again.

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    1. Anonymous8:09 AM

      and spewing the same old shit

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  8. Anonymous5:27 AM

    And, unfortunately, no one in the Liberty University audience disagreed with Sarah's gross misinterpretation of Thomas Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous5:50 AM

      Keep in mind, your average community college student is head and shoulders above the average Liberty University student academically.

      Even on a Friday night after a few beers.

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    2. Anonymous6:08 AM

      I suspect your average community college student is way above many private university students, at least where common sense is concerned. They may have less than stellar skills as revealed by standardized testing, but they're mostly diamonds in the rough with street smarts and a willingness to work hard.

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    3. Anonymous8:08 AM

      Remember, the media only reports what it wants us to know, so there may have been a ton of jeers and push-back, publically or privately, and we'd never hear about it..... like the wild ride story....

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  9. Anonymous5:31 AM

    That old bat doesn't care how stupid she looks as long as she's getting attention and money. Those are her gods, forget her xmas heart

    She wanted to be Ivana Trump but proved to be Pearl Bailey. Dumb hick.

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    1. angela5:52 AM

      Minnie Pearl? The Hee Haw woman with the price tag on her hat.

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    2. fromthediagonal6:33 AM

      Anon @ 5:31" Nope, not Pearl Bailey!

      Ms. Pearl Bailey was a black woman of great achievement in a time of legal discrimination and beyond. She surmounted it all...

      Google her and you may remember film and stage roles as well her jazz presence with her husband Louie Bellson.

      Angela, I think your thought of Minnie Pearl is a good one, but there is that stark difference between the laughing self depracation of Minnie Pearl's pricetag-on-the-hat schtick and the laughable self absorption by Palin who thinks she has something of intrinsic value to share with her audience, even if she understood the meaning of that word.

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    3. Anonymous3:25 PM

      Thanks, fromthediagonal, for the lesson.ion the two women with Pearl in their names. We can all learn from the google machine. Maybe Sarah could learn a thing or two if she would learn to use it, eh?

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  10. Anonymous5:34 AM

    This is just the "tip of the spear" of her ignorance and she just impaled herself.

    RJ

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    1. Anonymous5:53 AM

      most excellent observation

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    2. Anonymous8:06 AM

      I'd say that she "impalined" herself, and I think it ought to be a new word for when you jabber nonsense over and over again.

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    3. Anonymous12:07 PM

      "impalined" = perfect! + 1 gazillion

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  11. Anonymous5:59 AM

    For a woman supposedly loving Christ, she sounds pretty angry with that microphone in her hand, and shows such ignorance and insensitivity when she says, "plastic Jewish family". It might sound cute and fresh to her, but it sounds shrill and disrespectful to both christians and jews.

    Even if the manger scenes can be tacky and such, sitting in the midst of the hedonistic department stores where everything from A to Z is sold, Sarah Palin just ups the irrationality of it by opening her mouth.

    Notice how the audience hardly responded to her plastic Jewish family on a lawn joke. She is void of humility and even when talking about an important subject about the spiritual aspects in front of thousands of bible students, she doesn't sound at all genuine. Her anger and her pride are her gods.

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    1. Leland8:00 AM

      Sorry, 5:59, but to her the "plastic jewish family" was NOT a joke. She's too stupid to make a joke like that.

      And as for the audience, just think of WHAT audience and you'll have the answer to why they didn't even respond.

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    2. Anonymous12:09 PM

      I think she first mentioned that it was Ailes told her there was nothing offensive about having a plastic jewish family in the yard. As usual, she takes the words of others and makes them 'hers' with no attribution. The remark is stupid and mildly offensive but I think $tupid $arah still doesn't know that Jesus was Jewish.

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  12. Anonymous5:59 AM

    OT: Could someone post a photo of the Wasilla Nativity in a Van?

    RJ

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    1. Anonymous6:29 AM

      Wasilla Nativity is Bristol with coolers.

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    2. Anonymous9:31 AM

      I'll check for it today. It wasn't there yesterday.

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  13. Anonymous6:03 AM

    Once again, our president makes us proud. How deeply fortunate we were in 2008 and again in 2012 to choose this man to lead us:

    President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama received quite the welcome Tuesday at a memorial service for Nelson Mandela.

    The crowd inside FNB Stadium in Soweto, South Africa erupted after the Obamas were shown on the video screens, an ovation that was described as a "deafening roar" in a pool report of the event. The cheering lasted nearly 30 seconds.

    The President also drew a thunderous ovation when he approached the podium to deliver remarks in honor of the late South African leader.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obamas-greeted-by-deafening-roar-at-mandela-memorial

    Obama's Remarks At Nelson Mandela Memorial As Prepared For Delivery

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/read-obama-s-remarks-at-nelson-mandela-memorial-as-prepared-for-delivery

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    1. Anonymous6:32 AM

      President Obama’s eulogy of Nelson Mandela was personal. moving, and provided a surprising look inside the president’s soul.

      http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/10/president-obama-peek-soul-eulogy-nelson-mandela.html

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    2. Anonymous6:41 AM

      And CUE the outrage from the American right wing...

      Here's The Moment Barack Obama Shook Hands With The President Of Cuba

      http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-shook-hands-with-raul-castro-2013-12

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    3. Oh, there's already outrage from the American LEFT wing, too! They think POTUS should have ripped previous US administrations (Reagan) for their stance on Mandela and apartheid.

      Read the bottom half of this article at FireDogLake.

      Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't -- as usual.

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    4. Anonymous11:17 AM

      Firedoglake is a Koch Brothers shill.

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    5. Anonymous3:43 PM

      No, 11:17, FDL are just spoiled brats that didn't get a pony when Obama was elected the first time. They always amazed me during the election last year. You would think that they would prefer the Mittster for POTUS last year with all their anti-Obama posts.

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  14. Anonymous6:16 AM

    Simply Three

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQF0NSLhnzc#t=20

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  15. Anonymous6:26 AM

    Sarah Palin is a cockroach to be crushed. And afterthought to be mocked and ridiculed.

    THIS is what really matters. The gracious, intelligent, deeply compassionate man we have in the White House. People around the world recognize his greatness and demonstrate their respect and admiration for him.

    President Obama’s Speech at Nelson Mandela Memorial (Full Video and Transcript)

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/full-video-and-prepared-transcript-of-president-obamas-speech-at-nelson-mandela-memorial/

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  16. Anonymous6:27 AM

    A university that promotes STUPID!

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  17. Beldar J Conehead6:31 AM

    I dunno, Gryphen.

    If The Screechy Wretch(tm) is as horrible as you say she is, how come I just can't get enough of her bleating the delightful (and meaningless) phrase "the reason for the season" over and over and over and over.

    She's obviously more successful as a poet who don't know it and as a perspirational scripture thumper than as a perspicacious political pundint with anything intelligent to say of interest to anyone. Let her have her niche as heroin of the addled and unaware. Can't you see she's just trying to make a buck?

    But I do admire the clumsy way she implies that The War On Christmas is actually an insidious form of anti-semitism.

    Hey, Screechy, you're on your own on this laughable crusade to protect xtians from persecution. Leave the Jooz out of it, will ya!

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    ps, damnit, Gryphen! Just after I hit Publish on this comment, I realized I had accidentally referred to Screechy as a "heroin to the addled and unaware" when I obviously intended to use the word "heroine", "harpy' or 'charlatan'. But once you hit Publish, it's too late to edit....

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    1. Anonymous6:40 AM

      Heroin is probably next on her bucket list.

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    2. Anonymous8:03 AM

      every time Beldar writes "Screechy Wretch(tm), my brain reads "screechy rectum". I just can't help it.

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    3. Leland8:08 AM

      Oh BELdar! You serious missed the mark on that one! How about "perspicacious political pundit with possible profound perceptions"?

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    4. Leland8:18 AM

      Oops! that should read "seriousLY".

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    5. Anonymous9:10 AM

      "Heroin" is the perfect word. The addled and unaware are absolutely addicted to that heifer.

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    6. Anonymous9:42 AM

      Anonymous6:40 AM

      Heroin is probably next on her bucket list.
      *****
      I hope so! She can mix them as a speedball! Then maybe we will be rid of her!

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  18. Anonymous6:45 AM

    I did not write this comment, but I'd like to share it.

    "If you visit the official Monticello website, there's a section about Jefferson's religious beliefs and it's quite clear that as a deist, he didn't believe in the divinity of Christ.

    Specifically regarding "the reason for the season," he wrote to John Adams in 1823, "the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classified with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

    I haven't checked, but I wonder how bad the bots have been butchering all of the Jefferson info on Wiki. You know how they all love to rewrite history.

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  19. Anonymous7:07 AM

    She was obviously trying to cause the same kind of stink with "abort Christ" as she did with slavery. Nobody cared, except probably anyone with a lick of decency in the audience.

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    1. Anonymous8:00 AM

      agree. the abort Christ phrase was not better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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  20. Sarah Palins Brain on Crack7:28 AM

    Blah blah blah "Jesus is the reason for the season" blahblahblah " "a plastic jewish family on somebody's lawn" blahblahblah "angry athiests armed with lawyers" blahblablah "abort Christ from Christmas"

    rinse, recycle repeat

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    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      Amen. Amen.
      also, too.

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  21. Anonymous7:44 AM

    In the past the retard wouldn't allow cameras to record her. But now Sarah Palin has a big head and was recorded and we get to see how ignorant she really is.

    Let her speak, the more she speaks the worse Sarah Palin looks.

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    1. Leland8:11 AM

      PROVIDED someone actually points it out - preferably to HER - iIN PUBLIC in front of a camera.

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  22. Anonymous7:54 AM

    "Jesus is the reason for the season"

    That dipshit just keeps on repeating the same shit. They don't need to pay Sarah Palin to speak in person. Just put her face on a poster board and put her tired old saying on a poster board and save some money.

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    1. Leland8:19 AM

      That would make it harder to avoid barfing in public!

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    2. Anonymous3:20 PM

      A talking Parrot could be trained to say the same shit over and over for a lot less, and be cuter too...! Will work for seeds!
      Get rid of the Screechy wretch™

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  23. Super Fan In Atlanta8:42 AM

    If you could turn stupid into a fuel, you could use Sarah Palin to "leave the Solar System."

    That has to be one of the best logical statements I've ever read about Sarah Palin. Wow! Impressive indeed.

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  24. Anonymous9:27 AM

    Whenever I encounter obviously intelligent people who proclaim to be christians I always assume that they get their doctrine from the Jefferson bible. It's the only way I can reconcile their intelligence with their faith.

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  25. Anonymous10:00 AM

    To further help rid the world of Sarah Palin's ignorance please help Shailey Tripp get the attention she deserves.
    1. Buy her book and then donate it to a shelter or library
    2. Help revise and refine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Shailey_Tripp

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    1. Anonymous11:13 AM

      Are you joining the Palin Trolls?GoL?

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    2. Of course not.

      How many times have you made a date with tripp's dial-a-ho phone call thing?

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  27. Anonymous11:00 AM

    Mrs. Palin has taken Jesus/Christ out of her brand of Christianity. Just the opposite of Jefferson, whom she misquotes, and interprets out of her own ignorance.

    Really, Mrs. Palin is anti-Christ. She is the Harlot of Mammon.

    What's worse is that she is speaking to a supposedly Christian crowd. Don't they wonder where the heart of Christ might be in Mrs. Palin's facade?

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  28. Anonymous11:01 AM

    She what? She is hopeless. When she ever tells any store of Mandela it will be so incorrect. God is watching or whoever that is that makes things happen this way or that. Manly woman is not even normal. I do really believe she has many loose nuts and bolts in her noggin.

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  29. Anonymous11:13 AM

    If she says "the reason for the season" one more time she'll be cruisin' for a bruisin'. She is truly robotic.

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    1. Anonymous4:18 PM

      Actually, the reason for the Season is the return of the sun to the northern hemisphere.

      Christians took over these Natural Celebrations and rituals to co-opt the world into their "reason" - the spread of the Church - Christian Church in all it's variations.

      And they threw out the Baby with the bathwater, since I don't see much if any of the words of love and forgiveness attritributed to Jesus in their "theology."

      I am an athiest but I still celebrate the seasons, all of them. I still meditate on words of wisdom from all faiths.

      I just don't pay attention to the myth parts. As an anthropologist, I see universal parallels to the stories of the Devine. They have their purpose in society but that does not make these stories true.

      With global climate snow storms, a large segment of the population may really appreciate the real reason for the season: the return of the Sun.

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    2. Anita Winecooler6:09 PM

      Rampant, unbridled consumerism, also too!

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  30. Anonymous1:48 PM

    Sarah hates being retarded. It is what drives her hate of the world.

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    1. Anonymous2:42 PM

      If she hates being retarded so much why doesn't she try to fix herself? Read a history book, take a class, anything to remedy the woeful lack of education that she exhibits.

      It's as if she's the child who shits her pants and then shows off and is proud of herself.

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  31. Anonymous1:59 PM

    "Sarah Palin demonstrating her ignorance about Thomas Jefferson in her own words."

    Anybody really surprised?
    Add this to Sarah Palin's Paul Revere story.

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    1. Anonymous4:03 PM

      A book of Mrs. Palin's "history" lessons would be hysterical!

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  32. Anonymous2:48 PM

    I looked at Sarah Palin's facebook picture page and she posted a picture of Piper and Todd. Damn, Piper has a huge head and it looks like her head is about to fall over.

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  33. Anonymous2:50 PM

    Who are they going to get to play Todd in the Shailey Tripp movie? How about Pee Wee Herman?

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    1. Anonymous4:01 PM

      Pee Wee would work!

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    2. Anita Winecooler6:08 PM

      Mitch McConnel

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  34. Anonymous3:01 PM

    Why do people keep saying Sarah is retarded?

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      Anybody who listens to Sarah and doesn't instantly know that she's retarded is probably retarded themselves.

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  35. Anita Winecooler6:06 PM

    She's the President of Makestuffupistan. The quotes from Thomas Jefferson are factually based and an example of the greatness of the human mind. Sarah Palin is a joke, and not a very good one either.

    I know "Liberty U" isn't worthy of it's "University" status, but how even they can ask this moron questions and not ask her to extrapolate nor quote the person she's "quoting" is beyond me.

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