Saturday, January 25, 2014

Smith and Wesson to stop selling handguns in California due to new law that makes it easier to track guns used during criminal activities. Wait, that can't be right.

Courtesy of The Washington Times:  

Smith & Wesson announced it will stop selling its handguns in California rather than manufacture them to comply with the new microstamping law. The other publicly traded firearms manufacturer in the U.S., Sturm, Ruger, also said this month that it will stop new sales to California. 

The announcement late Wednesday came a week after the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade association for firearms manufacturers, filed suit against California for requiring that all new semi-automatic pistols that are not already on the state’s approved gun roster have the microstamping technology. 

Microstamping is a patented process that, in theory, would have a unique code on the tip of a gun’s firing pin that would engrave that information on the casing when fired. 

Smith & Wesson President and CEO James Debney said, “As our products fall off the roster due to California’s interpretation of the Unsafe Handgun Act, we will continue to work with the NRA and the NSSF to oppose this poorly conceived law which mandates the unproven and unreliable concept of microstamping and makes it impossible for Californians to have access to the best products with the latest innovations.” 

"Poorly conceived law?" A law that makes it easier to track a gun used in a crime back to its owners, is poorly conceived?

Here is what the microstamping does exactly:

Firearm microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, works by engraving a microscoping marking onto the tip of the firing pin. When the gun is fired, it leaves an imprint, usually of a serial number, on the bullet casings. The telltale mark theoretically allows law enforcement investigators to trace the bullet to the registered gun owner.

Here is how the NRA is responding to the new law:  

"This is the latest attempt to undermine the Second Amendment in California by politicians with little to no knowledge of firearms, who seek to impose their liberal values upon those who choose to protect their families with the constitutional right to own a handgun," said Chuck Michel, West Coast Counsel for the National Rifle Association, an Adjunct Professor at Chapman University and author of the book "California Gun Laws."

Color me confused but I am not sure exactly how this negatively impacts the purchase of handguns by law abiding citizens. 

Any of us who have watched a few episodes of CSI, or Dexter, or Law and Order, all know that traditionally bullets can be tied back to the guns that fired them through ballistic tests, during which an expert fires a bullet from a gun and then compares the striations on the side of that bullet to the ones found at a crime scene to see it they are a match.

This technology would dramatically reduce the complexities of that kind of work, and allow law enforcement to simply type the microstamp into a computer and immediately locate the person who purchased the gun. Think of how many police man hours could be saved, and how many more crimes could be solved with that technology on hand.

So knowing that, how exactly does the NRA, and Smith and Wesson, come out against it?

46 comments:

  1. Anonymous2:51 PM

    So what Smith & Wesson and Sturm Ruger are actually saying is: we're so afraid of law enforcement tracking any of our handguns used in the commission of a crime, we'd just rather write off that lucrative California market altogether.

    Man, that's some pretty darn big time fear.

    But then the NRA is nothing if not a master of scaring the bejeezus out of rabid gunnies and the manufacturers that make a living off them.

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    1. Anonymous3:59 PM

      Microstamping would be very easy for a criminal to get around, as a simple grinding operation with a Dremel tool would remove the microstamping.

      Even more challenging, however, is that as the article has mentioned, this is an unproven technology, the telltale mark 'theoretically allows law enforcement investigators to trace the bullet to the registered gun owner'. Of course, since the mark is on the casing, not on the bullet, you also have to tie the bullet to the casing. So it would only help identify a casing that might be tied to a bullet. It would therefore be most helpful when the firearm is stolen. But at that point, it isn't helpful in finding the criminal.

      Also, the concept of microstamping is that the firing pin will leave a very small mark on the primer. However, if Smith and Wesson were to market these guns, and one of those firing pins didn't leave the marks correctly, they could find themselves in court. That is probably the bigger concern. Lawsuits are pretty motivating.

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  2. Anonymous2:54 PM

    "seek to impose their liberal values upon those who choose to protect their families with the constitutional right to own a handgun," 


    Color me confused too. If I purchased a gun with microtechnology stamped on the firing pin then why would I fear that technology or the law if I am a law abiding citizen?

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  3. Anonymous2:58 PM

    The Mall shooting today was in my town. California is starting to look real good right now.

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  4. Anonymous2:59 PM

    WTF, are NRA members all Hit Men who don't want to be tracked down?

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  5. Hey, that was easy. Let's hope the other gun manufacturers will jump on board too. If I want to buy a gun I can always got to Arizona. Works for me.

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  6. "Color me confused but I am not sure exactly how this negatively impacts the purchase of handguns by law abiding citizens. "

    Color anyone sane confused - the NRA doesn't want traceable guns - yet they are law abiding supporters of the 2nd amendment???

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  7. Anonymous3:19 PM

    sheesh - gun companies had no problem engraving bible verses on weapons for the military.

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    1. Anonymous3:27 PM

      3 points!

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    2. Anonymous3:47 PM

      I don't see anything in that new law that prevents people from purchasing weapons.

      Could it be that the NRA knows that way too many of their members are NOT responsible gun owners and fail to keep their weapons safe and secure?

      How many stories do we read about children finding guns (especially handguns) carelessly left on tables, beds and in nightstand drawers? Heaven forbid we should hold those people accountable when those guns are stolen and used in a crime!

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  8. Anonymous3:27 PM

    What jerks! I have no words (that I can print) for the NRA! but, they assuredly make me sick to my stomach.

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  9. Anonymous3:31 PM

    "Any of us who have watched a few episodes of CSI, or Dexter, or Law and Order, all know that....."

    Uh. Think for a while on that statement.

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  10. Anonymous4:02 PM

    I don't understand the NRA's position, it doesn't make any sense. I'm guessing they expect California gun nuts to scream so loudly that CA will back down.

    Here's the latest gun stupidity here in Florida. Luckily no one was shot but that was only luck.

    http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/downtown_tampa/man-accidentally-fires-gun-at-town--country-hospital-emergency-room-er

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    1. Anonymous4:46 AM

      Who can ever understand anything said by an NRA spokesperson?
      Beaglemom

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  11. Anonymous4:05 PM

    Gryphen, S&W is not pulling out of California, it's only not going to sell new guns with the microstamping made specifically for the CA market. Existing guns made by them called CA Compliant will still be available.

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    1. Anonymous4:28 PM

      You comment doesn't match what the original article says. Where are your links?

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    2. Anonymous5:05 PM

      http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/other/MSMicroSFinal.pdf

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    3. Anonymous5:20 PM

      http://news.yahoo.com/smith-wesson-phase-away-future-pistol-models-california-231442577--sector.html;_ylt=AwrTWfx8b.RS2BgAWQnQtDMD

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  12. Anita Winecooler4:05 PM

    I can't understand "NRA" word salad. How, in any way whatsoever, does this technology take away anyone's second amendment rights? In a way, it protects them! Perhaps they should go one step further and microchip the trigger finger. If it doesn't match the chip in the gun, the gun won't go "boom".

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  13. Anonymous4:36 PM

    I am a weapons owner, always have been and always will. That said just because I own and use weapons does NOT mean I don't want stricter regulations. I hunt and target shoot( I was an olympic hopeful but chose Viet Nam in the 60's instead{I know that wasn't the smartest choice okay}) Never once when I have hunted or felt the need for personal protection(I have had a stalker for decades) for more than a seven round clip. I am okay with having some gun laws, as are most gun owners.
    AS for California laws, I am currently working out here and I do not have an issue with te state laws.

    BTW Since Ol' Brisket wanted to analyze Wendy Davis' divorce, maybe a column on the divorces in the Palin family is due.

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  14. Anonymous4:53 PM

    Can we get this passed in about 35 states? Seems to work even better than background checks.

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  15. Anonymous6:10 PM

    How could this go wrong? Gee, do you think a criminal with a half a mind might go to a firing range and grab a bunch of spent shells to leave at a crime scene to pin the blame of a shooting on someone else?

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    1. Anonymous8:03 PM

      Ammunition experts are able to match the bullet to its casing.

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    2. Anonymous9:04 PM

      Is clueless your middle name?

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    3. Anonymous11:30 PM

      You're clueless if you think this will stop criminals. They will file the stamp off if they are even the original owner of the gun or they will replace the firing pin with an unstamped pin. Criminals have been filing the serial numbers off of guns for as long as there have been serial numbers. And there will probably be a black market set up with unmarked firing pins. Again, idiots' solution to crime is to try to make criminals out of law abiding citizens. And this law doesn't apply to revolvers and wouldn't matter anyway as revolvers don't eject the shell casing.

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    4. So, are you also advocating the elimination of serial numbers on guns? And how does this law make "criminals out of law abiding citizens"?

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    5. Anonymous7:50 AM

      Where's your critical thinking power Jerry? I didn't advocate anything. I pointed out how criminals will obviously get around this law. The other obvious way is, they will not use guns that fall under this law, or they will use stolen guns which will point the cops at someone other than themselves, so instead of pointing the cops in the right direction and saving time with an investigation, it will just cause more false leads and more wasted time.

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    6. It will make it more difficult for criminals to get guns that cannot be traced back to them. Making it more difficult means fewer will get them. That is one of the points of the law.

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    7. Anonymous11:11 AM

      thank you 6:10, somebody with some common sense. the anti gun libs around here have very little common sense and really no understanding of gun mechanics or any knowledge of guns in general. they are reactionaries that think they can solve the worlds problems by trusting a nanny government to create all kinds of laws and databases (aand remain totally honest, heh) to make them feel safe at night. fools all of you. this is a round about, very poorly conceived gun restriction law by people who know nithing of guns period.

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    8. You are wrong You are a moron

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  16. Anonymous7:22 PM

    Here is a link to the CA list of weapons no longer alowed for sale. The new law affects 31 guns in 2014. Whoopie do dah! http://oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/files/pdfs/firearms/removed.pdf

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  17. Anonymous9:45 PM

    I predict that law enforcement will demand this type of technology be used all over the country...

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  18. Anonymous11:47 PM

    http://www.calgunlaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Clarity-of-Microstamped-Identifiers-as-a-Function-of-primer-Hardness-and-Type-of-Firearm-Action.pdf

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  19. Randall4:06 AM

    Without question microstamping saves time - LOTS of time - in police investigations.
    Time is money.
    Microstamping saves tax dollars.
    The NRA wants to spend, spend, spend.
    WHY isn't the NRA concerned about the deficit?

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  20. Anonymous6:45 AM

    My theory for a number of years has been that gun manufacturers don't want registration because that means they can't continue to sell to organized crime and insurgent groups around the world. Just like a VIN (vehicle identification number), a serial number and registration at the point of sale starts a paper trail.

    Remember when the Blackwater guys were caught smuggling weapons into Iraq? Why would military contractors who had a blank check for all the legitimate weapons they could ever need, smuggle weapons? Maybe to arm the Shi'ia groups so their militia group could commit crimes against Sunnis and then say Iran was supplying weapons? Then Bush/Cheney could say there was an imminent reason to invade another oil-rich country in the Middle East.

    Eighty percent of Americans now live in metropolitan areas. There is less and less hunting going on, so sales have been declining. If you sell weapons really cheaply to gang organizations, then the scared suburban folks will start buying them at a huge mark-up and the gun manufacturers have a good year. When military-grade armor piercing bullets and high-powered weapons "somehow" make it into the hands of gangs, then police departments are forced to upgrade their armor and firepower at taxpayer expense. And the weapons companies make a ton of dough. This is all just a domestic arms race in the guise of self-defense.

    I grew up in Wyoming, my brother was an NRA member when it actually stood for the gun owners, and I'm a libertarian. I even wrote an op-ed piece in high school talking about how registration was a bad idea because the feds could take them away.

    After I worked in business where our product needed a key/serial number in order to activate it for the customers, I realized what was really going on. Any customer who called in needing help and they didn't have the key/serial number that was sold to them, we told them they had bought pirated software and we couldn't support them.

    In high school in the early 1980s, we studied unrest around the world and I remember being shocked to find out that the U.S. is the biggest weapons dealer in the world, followed by Russia and China. At the time, we could blame the Cold War, but where's the excuse since the Soviet Union fell in 1991? Peace is bad for business if you are a weapons company.

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    1. Anonymous7:46 AM

      Gun sales are declining? Boy are you living in a dream world.

      By the way, describe to us what a "military-grade armor piercing bullet" is. And tell us about all the "high power" weapons gang members are using. pistols are not high power" by the way, and they are the weapon of choice of gang members" because they are concealable, not because they are "high power".

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    2. Still wrong again

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  21. Anonymous7:35 AM

    Even funnier, none of the guns in Gryphen's picture above would be affected by this law. They are all revolvers. Not one is a semi auto.

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  22. It is a nice collection of S&W guns. The Smith & Wesson M&P is a popular choice nowadays. I want to buy one for target shooting and it is also suits for home safety purpose.

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