Saturday, April 05, 2014

Andrew Sullivan comes to the defense of a Mozilla CEO who resigned after his negative views on gay marriage came to light, and is applauded for his reasonableness. Well Greta Van Susteren and Sarah Palin cannot allow that to stand.

So some of you may have read how how the CEO of the internet browser Mozzila stepped down from his job after it came to light that he had given a $1,000 contribution on support of the 2008 gay marriage ban in California.

In response Andrew Sullivan wrote a rather thoughtful piece on what he saw as the equivalence of pro-gay lynch mob: 

He did not understand that in order to be a CEO of a company, you have to renounce your heresy! There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged! Yep, that’s left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell. No, he wasn’t a victim of government censorship or intimidation. He was a victim of the free market in which people can choose to express their opinions by boycotts, free speech and the like. He still has his full First Amendment rights. But what we’re talking about is the obvious and ugly intolerance of parts of the gay movement, who have reacted to years of being subjected to social obloquy by returning the favor. 

This is a repugnantly illiberal sentiment. It is also unbelievably stupid for the gay rights movement. You want to squander the real gains we have made by argument and engagement by becoming just as intolerant of others’ views as the Christianists? You’ve just found a great way to do this. It’s a bad, self-inflicted blow. And all of us will come to regret it.

I have to admit that though I frequently use the Mozilla browser, Firefox, I did not feel compelled to weigh in on this debate one way or the other.

However Greta Van Susteren felt the need to provide her two cents, not so much about what happened to Mozilla CEO and co-founder Brendan Eich, but rather how irritating it was the Sullivan was now being celebrated for his defense of free speech.

Here is her headline:

Andrew Sullivan, is now the Free Speech guy? Free speech should include at least an effort at NO SLANDER yet he felt it was ok, when it advanced his career, to slander a mother by saying obsessively that she should PROVE she is the mother of her special needs child! Yes, a bully! What a world we live in, huh?

Oh yeah, she went there.

And because she went there could the Wasilla Wendigo be far behind?

Aww poor Sarah, bullied by the big bad openly gay blogger, who is now receiving accolades for defending those he feels are being denied their right to free speech.

Oh the humanity.

But exactly what about Sullivan's questioning of the circumstances of Trig's birth would be considered bullying? Here is what he said on June 13, 2011:

It seems to me we have two options. It’s possible that Palin simply made up her drama of labor, or exaggerated it for effect, when in fact it was a routine, if rare, pregnancy, and she had mild warnings that the birth may be premature, and she gussied that up into a tall tale of her pioneer spirit, guided by her doctor, who refused to take the NYT’s calls as soon as Palin hit the big time. I think that’s the likeliest explanation, given the sheer world-historical weirdness of the alternative. 

But it’s also possible that she never had that baby at all. I mean, if you read the emails and independent reports above and were asked if this woman were in labor with a special needs child, and that her water had already broken, would you believe it? Just put all the facts in front of you and ask yourself that question. 

So she is either a self-serving drama queen who didn’t realize her story would imply she put her child – and many others on the planes – at great risk and then winged it to make her story more plausible; or she is a fantastic hoaxer and liar at a world class meshugana level that, at some point, will make Weinergate look like a damp squib. 

To my mind, either option makes her unfit for high office, which is all you need to know really. And the fact that she has never been asked about this by any MSM journalist tells you so so much about what motivates the DC press corps. It’s certainly not curiosity.

That is not bullying, that is simply good reporting.  Something that his fellow journalists completely failed to do.

And, as we all know, he was not at all wrong to pursue this story.

Because only one month later we provided the smoking gun that would demonstrate that Sarah Palin lied about her pregnancy in any court in the land.

So yes, Andrew Sullivan is a defender of free speech. And no, he is NOT a bully.

But I know somebody who is.


158 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:47 PM

    She looks and acts like a caricature.

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    1. Anonymous6:43 PM

      It's deeper than that. She is a caricature.

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    2. slipstream10:13 AM

      It's deeper than that. She is an imitation of a caricature.

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  2. I hope Andrew Sullivan comes out against Greta and the Wasilla Wendigo with "guns blazing", armed with all those pictures that have been unearthed by Audrey, Regina, and all the other Palin-Myth investigators.

    I wrote my 2c worth on Greta's blog, although I doubt it'll stay there very long:

    "KarenJ • 6 minutes ago
    When you go from looking slimmer than your daughter did during her 2010 DWTS appearance http://tinyurl.com/oz4nmxy to looking about ready to pop 18 days later http://tinyurl.com/k72378d it arouses curiosity -- which it did in Alaska.

    Andrew Sullivan wanted to know why, since no one was asking during the 2008 campaign, and he was attacked relentlessly for it."

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  3. Grrrr !4:56 PM

    There's always a "WHY" to whatever Palin & Co. drop into the MSM fishbowl.

    Why would she tell Greta to bring up the old, supposedly-settled question of Trig? Just to zap Sullivan?

    Just curious ...

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    1. This is a game she plays (Letterman) to garner sympathy, and she plays it well, since she’s likely played it all her life. She gets someone (or just lets them) attack her and, then blows it all out of proportion.

      Did we ever decide if Tripp’s birthday was August 1 of some year? Lots of people will fudge the year of their birth, but they almost never fudge the month and day. Where did the RNC baby (not a newborn, it would have died after the way Sarah treated it) come from? A Game of Babies.

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    2. Anonymous4:43 AM

      Greta has never given birth, so would not know how a pregnant woman reacts to the water breaking. I do, firsthand, and any doctor will tell you to get to the hospital ASAP. I opoened my door to a neighbor and my water broke, gushing all down my pant legs. No way could THAT have been kept secret. PayMe is a lying bitch, who used a helpless baby to further herself. I want to see her crashing down, SOON.

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  4. Anonymous4:56 PM

    Gee, for someone who propounds to be so utterly attentive to "her" baby, Trig seems to be missing from an awful lot of Facebook posts.

    Sarah, you are a phony and utterly deserving of condemnation of decent, genuine humankind.

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  5. Anonymous5:17 PM

    Whatever happened to the little Trigger and his birth certificate? I hope he's with a loving family that provides for all his therapy and educational needs.

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    1. Anonymous10:45 AM

      He has a loving family. Trig Paxson Van Palin. He has loving parents and 4 doting siblings. And to boot, he has wonderful best friends in his niece and nephew. Such a sweet group of kids together.

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    2. Anonymous3:10 PM

      Good thing he's with them instead of with the Palins.

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  6. Anonymous5:18 PM

    Oh, noz. Sullivan created quite the dilemma for the anti-gay rights crowd who were itching for a fight over Mozilla's former CEO's '1st Amendment rights.' So rather than side with Sullivan, Greta had the brilliant idea to just go after Sullivan. He's gay, so why not? Logic, be damned!

    This is Greta's second time in just a few months that Greta to bring up Sullivan and babygate. The last time she dug up the old right-wing meme that he attacked Trig. She was set straight in the comment section of her blog but she shows herself to be determined to ignore the facts. She and Sarah are quite the cognitively-challenged pair, fabricating an attack to justify bullying the 'attacker.'

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    1. Anonymous5:30 PM

      "This is Greta's second time in just a few months that Greta to bring up Sullivan and babygate."

      Yikers! I accidentally hit 'publish' before editing. Try this:

      Greta brought up Sullivan and babygate a few months ago, digging up the old right-wing meme that he had attacked Trig.

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  7. Anonymous5:20 PM

    No, Andrew, this was not a pro-gay lynch mob. Not even close. And I refuse to be tolerant of intolerance.

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    1. Anonymous2:54 AM

      Exactly, Sullivan absolutely does not get it at all. As one other spokesman said, if Eich had been donating to the KKK would Sully defend him? When a CEO is chosen (and why Eich was is beyond me) he represents the WHOLE company and his views are what are thought to make the company. If the morons at Mozilla had vetted this bigot, they could have avoided the shit storm that followed. They did not and now they have learned as has every other corporation. VET your CEO's for EVERYTHING.
      That said, Palin is an idiot.

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  8. Anonymous5:20 PM

    Haven't used Firefox since 2008 and haven't visited Andrew Sullivan since he became a paid site. I guess for once, I don't have an opinion on anything in one of your blog posts :-)

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  9. Anonymous5:22 PM

    Greta is a Scientologist. She believes all kinds of crazy shit.

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    1. Anonymous6:46 PM

      +1000000000000000000000

      She is a kook who can mimic an intelligent person.

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    2. Anonymous6:51 PM

      Nothing that the Scientology people believe is any more stupid or dumb than what Christians or Muslims or Hindus believe. All these people are broken in the head and believe in fairy tales and mythology instead of the real world that we live in.

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    3. Anonymous7:40 PM

      6:51, Scientology beliefs are as weird as the others, but it's what they do -- intimidate, isolate, abuse, separate family members -- that's different and awful.

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    4. 6:46 Too bad the wicked witch "from the" west hasn't fooled enough in that category.

      I stopped watching greta after she milked (and was completely correct) the missing teen in Aruba.

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    5. Let's throw atheist in too. and retards.

      ANY and EVERYthing in excessive is dangerous.

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    6. Well I never met a Mormon who wasn't more Disney in da head than Mickey Mouse.

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    7. Nothing that the Scientology people believe is any more stupid or dumb than what Christians or Muslims or Hindus believe. All these people are broken in the head and believe in fairy tales and mythology instead of the real world that we live in.

      Which is why I wonder about Andrew. I have been a solid reader of his site for years (and now a member) but what is with his insistence on religion, esp. on Sundays? How can such a clever chap STILL believe all that crap. Why can't he just be a humanist (the best part of religions) and stop trying to press his personal delusion?

      I have also emailed him re his giving up reporting on calling out Sarah Palin for all her lies, etc: All evil needs to thrive is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

      Andrew is a good man, but for the god-bothering.

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    8. Anonymous6:33 AM

      I paid for his new venture hoping it would free him up to expose Palin more. Not renewing. Sorry Andrew.

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  10. Anonymous5:28 PM

    I was reading the poison comments in the Pee Pond. At least now I understand why they were all asking how to get out of using Mozilla. Why aren't people up in arms and boycotting Hobby Lobby for inflicting their religious beliefs on their workers, who may not follow the same, strict religious beliefs regarding birth control products. Mozilla is what keeps my computer running, and I'd find it hard to switch. I never shopped at Hobby Lobby, and I have no reason to now. When I shop, I don't look up to see if the store owner is Republican or Democrat. I want low prices and good service. The rest is distraction.

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    1. Sally in MI7:42 PM

      Oh, because they agree with Hobby Lobby. And they still adore little picked on Sarah and her adorable clan. Because she is one of them, dontcha know? Just a tell it like it is conservative with their values and their problems. They evidently all have millions in the bank, grift off a PAC, and lie compulsively. That they can't see through her act is pitiful.

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    2. Anonymous2:56 AM

      I DO look to see the political persuasion of the companies I buy from. My money is my speech when it comes to it, at least according to the Supreme Court, so I use it as such.
      When I found out my local auto repair shop was a teabagger, I stopped using him because I did not want MY MONEY to go to his beliefs.

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    3. Maple6:58 AM

      "My money is my speech". Yes! I will not darken the doors of WalMart for the same reason, but I take pleasure in shopping at Costco because their employees are paid a living wage. Thankfully, there are no Hobby Lobbys in Canada, else I would definitely boycott them. The owners are the ultimate hypocrites, buying the majority of their crap from China (which actively encourages abortion) and investing in companies that manufacture birth control devices.

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  11. Anonymous5:36 PM

    Earth to Greta: Your husband has made a lot of money promoting the Palin "brand," whatever the hell that is, and it's working so well, isn't it?!? Fair and balanced, you're not. Keep talking out of both sides of your plastic-surgery-gone-wrong mouth.

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    1. Anonymous5:54 PM

      It's true that Mr. Greta helped Sarah set up her PAC and a trust; however, he wasn't paid.

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    2. Sally in MI7:40 PM

      And how do you know that? I have never known a lawyer to work for free, and he did far more than set up her PAC.

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    3. Anonymous8:14 PM

      Sally - He advised her to set up a PAC and a 'legal' trust. There's no record of him providing more than advice or receiving any payment from the PAC. Alaska Fund Trust disbursements were never public so it's possible he received something there.

      Money isn't the only motivation for cozying up to someone you expect to run for the presidency.

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    4. Anonymous8:25 PM

      Greta knows BFF $arah will never run.

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  12. Anonymous5:40 PM

    I'm surprised to see the Babygate issue return. Sarah got off easy at the beginning, dodging reporters questions and threatening them with, "What do I have to do, show you my stretch marks?" The posed photo showing a very pregnant Sarah originally appeared after the fact with the wrong date stamp and some more questionable details about the photo.

    I have another question about the woman in that photo, or any woman who looked that pregnant and then got on an airplane. I fly quite often, and I rarely see women that pregnant get on the plane. There is a good reason why. Most doctors do not advise air travel after 7 months. The lower cabin pressure can cause problems for the pregnant mother. I should also mention that following any kind of major surgery, doctors do not recommend air travel because the body is swollen, and will become even more swollen in that lower cabin pressure. I can tell you how true that is. My daughter flew a few days after having wisdom teeth extracted, and her jaw swelled up for a week. Just about the time that it was healing, she flew again, making things worse. During pregnancy, a woman is swollen and distended. There's a good reason why doctors suggest that it is not wise to travel after 7 months.

    And there was Sarah with a high risk pregnancy. According to her narrative, she knew that she was carrying a DS child, many of whom are born early with physical problems. She had a history of two miscarriages, and she was over 40 years old, additional warning signs for a higher than normal risk birth. Look at the photo taken in the State House. Sarah's belly is large and easily noticed.

    In flying to Texas to give that speech at a governors' conference, Sarah took two planes to Texas and two planes back to Alaska, while 8 months pregnant and looking like the woman in the photo. However, not one flight attendant noticed that the famous Governor of Alaska needed a seat belt extender-- and they check seat belts at every take off and landing, and when the captain puts on the seat belt sign in the middle of the flight. Sarah sat in first class. No one recalled offering her a pillow to make her more comfortable, a blanket or the fact that pregnant women need to go to the toilet just about every hour at that point. No, Sarah flew below the radar. Not one person on those four planes noticed that she was pregnant. That's amazing, considering that they are very observant if you forget to put your seat in the upright position of put something safely under the seat in front of you.

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    1. Anonymous6:11 PM

      The seat-belt extender argument isn't valid. Sarah wouldn't have needed one even with the fake 8-month belly.

      Seat belts are properly placed across the thighs and under the belly...NEVER across the belly which could result in fetal injury during turbulence.

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    2. Anonymous7:20 PM

      On four flights, take offs and landings, seat belt extenders or no seat belt extenders, not one flight attendant noticed that Sarah Palin was pregnant. And, she looks pretty pregnant in that staged photo.

      One more thing about airplane seats. They are not your living room sofa or chair where you can sink back into the comfy cushions. They have a rigid back, and while it can recline after take off, it's upright for take off and landing. I saw a hefty sitting across from me, and the straight back pushes everything forward. When she stood up, her weight was well distributed around her. When sat in that unforgiving seat, everything got pushed forward. Despite your comment about the thighs, the gal asked for a seat belt extender.

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    3. Anonymous7:31 PM

      Instructions for a 747:
      SEAT BELT:
      Your seat belt has been designed for easy fastening and release. To fasten, insert the metal fitting into the buckle, adjust to fit snugly with the loose end of the strap and simply lift the buckle release to unfasten. Your seat belt should always be worn low and tight across your lap.

      NOT THIGHS, LAP

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    4. In cases where a 33 week pregnant woman is flying, a seat belt extender could be necessary even to go "under" her belly. It's the fact that airline attendants did NOT notice the pregnancy that is so damning to Palin.

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    5. Anonymous8:25 PM

      LAP is the area between the waist and the knees. That includes the thigh. Sheez. I don't think there's a specific term for the 2-4" area at that's top of the thigh, across the pubic area and below the belly. Point is that the airplace seatbelt goes below the pregnant belly...i.e. 'worn low.'

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    6. OK, all of you arguing about seat belt extenders...how many 7+ month pregnant women can wear low-rider jeans the same size that they wore pre-pregnancy?

      THAT is equivalent to whether or not a 7+ month pregnant woman does or doesn't need a seat belt extender when she's sitting in an airplane seat.

      The beltline on a low-rider pair of jeans covers the same area where a seatbelt would span the body.

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    7. Anonymous9:56 PM

      bottom line; the crosseyed skank lyin' fraud DID NOT HAVE HER GUSTY PIX FAKE BELLY ATTACHED AT THE PODIUM GIVING THE SPEECH WHEN IN TEXAS, FLYING FROM TEXAS TO ALASKA OR ON ARRIVAL IN ANCHORAGE...

      THEE FUKIN' END !

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    8. Anonymous10:44 PM

      KaJo - The low-rider jean beltline is a pretty good idea of the area but you may have forgotten that seatbelts are adjustable. Someone Palin's size would have lots of slack to play with...except she wasn't pregnant.

      I once sat next to a young woman who needed a seat belt extender. She was huge! On another trip, the man sitting next to me took up 25% of my seat and the seat belt fit him without need for an extension.

      Back when we all started researching pregnancy stuff, I found a travel site that dealt with the pregnancy-seat belt issue. I can't find it now but hope some examples with height-weight details will help give an idea of when the extenders are needed:

      "I did, however, need a seat belt extender, but just barely. I'm 326 [lbs] and 5' 4", so you'll be just fine."

      "I've flown MANY times at 300 lbs., and I'm only 5' 4". I've never been asked to buy a seat. I do ask for seatbelt extenders about half the time..."

      http://www.sparkpeople.com/ma/Airplane-seat-panic/32/1/18683305

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    9. Anonymous3:54 AM

      Anonymous 5:40 PM
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      When Palin worshipers are presented with these facts they put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and repeat, "you are just another jealous hater". No matter what evidence is brought forth about Sarah's deception it will be dismissed out of hand by them as more lies being spread about their idol by those evil libruls.

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    10. Anonymous4:56 AM

      Also, too, a man saw her sitting reading (maybe it WASN'T her) at the airport in Seattle. He spoke to her and said he had no clue she was pregnant, since she did not look like it. PayMe pulled the biggest scam in politics, and now thinks she is smarter than anyone else. Little Johnny Mac should rot in hell for this fraud on the American people. Next to his hoax about being the big hero, this comes a close second.

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    11. Anonymous6:44 AM

      The final nail in the coffin is the FACT that Dr. Cathy B Johnson is a FAMILY PRACTICE PHYSICIAN. There is no way, unless she devoted her career to being a high risk OB, that she was a HR OB. She would need CONSTANT continuing medical education and surgical skill updates to even GET malpractice insurance to cover her as a high risk OB . FPP CAN indeed be HR OBs, and are, in underserved areas - but that is all they do . CBJ was seeing adults for primary care and working with abused people. That same year she published an article about how she asks her ADULTs who do not adhere to their medication regimens, if they were abused as kids. This is her specialty. Not HR obstetrics.There are at least 30 HR OBs in SArah P
      alins area she would have used if she were pregnant.
      Additionally, MatSu was not license or credentialed for high risk births. Since the meme is she was :induced" that tell us there was plenty of time to get her to Providence that HAD all the necessary standards for hig risk births.
      THIS IS THE KEY. IF Andre Sullivan would go after CBJ and her credentials this would be over in a fuckin heartbeat.
      So frustrating.
      CBJ could have been Bristol Palins doctor OB, as she probably was not high risk. I think she kept the pregnancy quiet until the 7th month and in a panic Palin went to CBJ and CBJ helped concoct the cover up.
      I'll bet no onr new Bristol was even pregnant until she delivered the very premature baby with rufled ears. No one knew it was genetically abnormal either until he was born.

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  13. Anonymous5:47 PM

    Everyone knows she didn't give birth to Trig, and I am betting over half of her supporters acknowledge that and are willing to overlook the fact she covered for her pregnant 15 yr old daughter. But yrs, later for Greta's boss to tell her to be concerned about this just proves she never had a child after Piper.

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  14. Anonymous5:51 PM

    "he felt it was ok, when it ADVANCED HIS CAREER, to slander..."

    Uh...no! The opposite happened. Sullivan was attacked and marginalized by the media which he accused of malpractice for refusing to question Palin.

    Dear Greta, Think about it. If Palin's pregnancy was such a great topic for career advancement, wouldn't more in the media have pursued it? Remember that whole Journalist thing-- progressive journalists deciding that babygate was taboo.

    Gryphen - Please think about addressing this as an update or as a new post.

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  15. Anonymous5:51 PM

    Dear Green Screen Granny, you look pretty good in those pics from 6 yrs ago, what the hell happened to your face? Did all those implants fester and fall out?

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  16. Anonymous5:51 PM

    Some more details about Sarah's miraculous birth of Trig at 8 months at MatSu (the original story). People have called MatSu to ask if they were able to handle the birth of a special needs child. The person calling sounded as if she might be pregnant and was looking into her options.

    The answer from MatSu was clear. They do not have a neonatal ward. They are not equipped to handle a high risk birth. If a woman came in, in labor, with high risk indications, they had two choices. If there was time, she would be transported to Anchorage where there are facilities that could handle a high risk birth. If there was no time, they would deliver the baby, and then immediately transport both baby and mother to Anchorage.

    Remember Sarah's story, arriving in Anchorage around 11 PM after leaving Texas around 1 PM. That's a lot of strenuous travel for someone expecting a special needs child, in her 8th month, leaking amniotic fluid and in labor. She was the Governor of Alaska, but she did not call ahead to request a police escort to the nearest hospital in Anchorage. She did not request a police escort to MatSu. She arrived at midnight.

    According to Sarah's own story, she had to be induced and she claimed that Trig arrived around 6 AM. Trig was delivered by the faithful family Dr.CBJ, who does not specialize in high risk births. Her special field of interest is abused teens . She was Sarah's family doctor, not a trained OB/GYN who had delivered hundreds and hundreds of kids.

    Arrive at midnight, presenting a high risk birth, Sarah chose to pass up the better staffed facility in Anchorage. MatSu couldn't deliver a high risk birth, and they had 6 hours to transport her back to Anchorage. Something doesn't sound right here. If it doesn't make sense, then it's hard to believe the story, not matter how Sarah spins the tale.

    Sarah has one more little problem. In two different speeches given to Right to Life groups, Sarah's narrative changed a little, with Trig arriving at 7 1/2 months in Anchorage. It's on tape. It's no mistake. What mother can't remember when or where she gave birth? That's a big Wooops! No reporter has ever confronted Palin with all of the problems in her story. I guess they figure that it's not worth seeing how far-reaching Sarah's retribution can go. Maybe in a few more years, as her star continues to fade, she won't have to clout to keep people from discovering the truth behind this story that is filled with conflicts and misinformation. As a work of fiction, it would never become the book or the movie because it's too unbelievable.

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    1. Sally in MI7:38 PM

      I figure she got a call in Texas that the baby was about to be born and she'd better get her scrawny butt back to claim it. She HAD to give her speech, and made up the rest of it as she went along. Otherwise, someone, in all those hours on planes and waiting rooms, would have remembered her as being hugely pregnant. THAT is the big hole in the saga...not one person has come forward recalling a pregnant woman on their plane. Not one airline employee refused to let her board without a doctor's permission. NADA. There was not baby in that belly, because she had her tubes tied after Piper. Shame on the media for letting her continue this scam for so long.

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    2. Anonymous8:30 PM

      Remember the puppy e-mail from Tawd to her? Announcing Trig! It boggles the mind how batshit crazy this family is.

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    3. Anonymous9:26 PM

      To Sally: I think that Trig was born earlier than April 18, maybe a month or so earlier but had to stay in a neonatal ward until he was healthy enough to be released. The key date to look at is March 5 when Sarah announced that she was pregnant. If Bristol gave birth to Trig and they planned on having him adopted, that fell through when he was born with DS. The next step was to see if he would survive. He was born with a hole in his heart, blood and liver problems, sight and hearing problems. Sarah had planned on a 6 week "pregnancy." The joke is that she wore scarves to hide her "pregnancy" after she announced it and it wasn't a secret.

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    4. Anonymous10:05 PM

      No one will ever get near enough to ask $arah (R-Facebook) about the Wild Ride and Fake Birth. $he lives in a protective bubble and only comes out in the most controlled and scripted settings. $he is the world's biggest coward.

      Also too: What I don't get is why no one in AK or AZ ever mentions seeing any of the Paylin kids at school, church, anywhere? .... anyone?

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    5. Anonymous5:02 AM

      Also, too, she dismissed her security detail for the trip to Tex-Ass, Taking Toad for "protection" and whatnot.

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    6. Anonymous6:48 AM

      10:06 That is why some of us try to go to her gigs and get close enough to ask her. It is just a matter of time.
      I hope she shits her pants in all publis outings. She should. She'll never know when one of us will get in her ear and tell her we know she is not Tri-G's birth mother.

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    7. Anonymous3:48 PM

      @9:26PM, yes he supposedly had a hole in is heart, so when was the surgery done to correct this? There should be a scar and wouldn't they have made an announcement to the news- governor's son undergoes surgery blah, blah.

      The other unbelievable part is that she took him to work when he was 3 days old, who does this?

      Personally I am not convinced and will not be convinced that Trig has DS, until I have independent proof. Willow is not proof. Not to say his is not disabled, but not convinced of DS. We only have Sarah's word and that isn't worth anything.

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  17. Anonymous6:01 PM

    Holy Moly, Wink! Wink!

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  18. Anita Winecooler6:22 PM

    The first photo "Sarah" reminds me of Andrea Martin from SCTV. Andrew Sullivan is spot on with his assessment of babygate, not so sure about his stance on Mozilla.
    I remember when babygate broke and all the fires Sarah rushed to put out and thinking, if it wasn't true, why would she take it so personally? I remember one of her bulldogs telling a reporter (from memory) "You want me to comment about something that came from Governor Palin's Vagina?" and that made me dig further and further. Audrey, some of the Alaska Bloggers, Bree Palin, and Regina just reinforced what I already knew, but your posts and those photos in Texas were the icing on the cake.
    I wonder why Sarah put Greta Van Mushmouth up to bringing up this matter after all this time?
    If one looks at Sarah's facebook page, and compares it to Bristol Palin-Palin's blog, Bristol does the lionshare of posts on Trigg and Down Syndrome, it's almost like Sarah's Trigg's Grandmom!!!!!!
    I hope Andrew continues to push the issue. The truth has to come out.
    Lady TaTa went against the Gusty photos and now does Busty ones. She looks more like a nursing mom now than she did when she pulled out the sofa cushion !

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    1. Anonymous9:30 PM

      You hit on a good point. The non-busty Gusty photo is additional proof. Been pregnant myself and I know what third trimester breasts look like. She is nearly flat in the Gusty.

      I'm sure there are some women out there who didn't have a big increase in size but we've seen pics of previous palin pregnancies and hers sure did then!

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    2. Sally in MI3:29 AM

      And there was a story when she was 'picked' that she was a nursing mom. Having been one myself (a year with each child) and not knowing much about her in the summer of 2008 (ah, the good old days before Palin) I was curious as to how she would manage to do all the things required of a VP candidate and still nurse a 4 month old. I fully expected a lovely picture or three of her doing that. Instead, we got Bristol bottle feeding the baby. Bristol holding the baby while Mama incited the masses. Whenever Sarah held him, she faced him forward, a very awkward pose for both of them. I doubt she ever nursed any of her children. That requires time and effort on the part of the mother, a good diet, and a lot of patience. Remember when the McCain campaign hustled her off to his ranch for debate prep? There was no Trig there then. And had she even begun to nurse him before the whole national thing started, she would have had issues with her milk-filled breasts trying to dry things up, not to mention dealing with the letdown reflex whenever she saw him. There is NO mention of any of that. She did not nurse. Just another 'see what a great mom I am' lie. Surprise.

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    3. Anonymous6:50 AM

      She drank red bull and atkins bars for food. N o way she was breastfeeding. I had a water bottle with me 24/7 to keep hydrated when nursing a 4 month old. Sarah? not so much lol!!

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    4. Anonymous8:57 AM

      6:50 your point made me think of something. There was a claim she was breast feeding trig during the campaign and the staff around her would know of course-yet when they made the comments about her living on red bull not one of them mentioned her diet and breast feeding. In fact can anyone remember any comments from Game Change about the skank being a new mom or breast feeding or anything to do with that element of her running on mccain's ticket?

      Because it was a valid question asked-about balancing a large family/a four month old with Down syndrome and being vp it seems very interesting that it wasn't addressed in some way in the book or film.

      Note there was discussion about her benign balanced yet was there any discussion about her new mom /breast feeding status and how that may have or not affected scheduling and her energy level and her diet and her moods etc???

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    5. Anonymous9:10 AM

      https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/09/pali-s03.html

      In this article in the link above it quotes skank as saying she was breast feeding trig at the start of the campaigner yet when the McCain team took her to Arizona to prep her for the debate trig was not with her for days?????

      I don't give a flying leap if she did or didn't breastfeed trig-the point is that lies were told even about this to try to nail the point that skank gave birth to trig. I believe the mccaincamp knew very early on that trig was not birthed by skank and were complicit in the cover up. Their silence is deafening.

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    6. Anonymous3:27 PM

      Who would breastfeed from fake breasts? Who would claim to be pregnant after telling everyone that she had a tubal ligation? Who would take 4 long flights at 7 1/2 months pregnant at 40+ years old? Only a PSYCHOTIC MANIAC would do anything like that.

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    7. Anonymous3:52 PM

      "You want me to comment about something that came from Governor Palin's Vagina?"

      They managed to shut them down right away by putting them on the defensive. Sarah does this a lot. They should have said yes!!!!

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    8. Anita Winecooler5:01 PM

      I forgot to mention the interview with Sarah about the nativity hoax.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTAzBdzoO-c

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RS5nltxKKg

      EXTREMELY chock full of lies. No mention of Willow and Bristol being present, no mention of Willow noticing and diagnosing Trig's condition from the ultrasound.

      No Screeching, lots of pauses, slow cadence. Gryphen has the audio on one of the posts, but I couldn't find it.

      The reporters asked all the right questions. It's perfectly acceptable to fly with ruptured membranes, which she calls "not labor".

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  19. Anonymous6:22 PM

    Boo Hoo Hoo, everybody picks on poor Sarah. That mental patient was a VP candidate. We the people have the right to know what her character and ethics are. She has neither !!!

    Besides the obvious evidence that she WAS NOT pregnant, as the saying goes.. if you don't have anything to hide.

    It is interesting that Greta keeps reminding folks about this can of worms. Sarah is off the radar for most Americans, in fact I doubt most of them would even recognize her.

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    1. Anonymous5:05 AM

      The gop tried to put this skank into office. Will they try once again with some other lunatic?

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    2. Anonymous6:18 AM

      You mean they haven't already? Have you been paying attention?

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  20. Anonymous6:32 PM

    Why would Greta bring up Sullivan and babygate? He quit writing about it years ago.

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    1. Anonymous6:52 PM

      Because she knows that the only thing Palin is good for is cheap, false pathos.

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    2. Anonymous7:13 PM

      Exactly. There is something peculiar about Greta bringing this up for the second time in recent posts. Sounds to me like she is out to get Sarah by bringing in the back door what couldn't come in the front door. Sounds like a subtle threat to Sarah.

      Watch out Sarah, your "friend" has the goods on you and is going to use it in her own sweet time!!

      DontHatetheGame

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    3. Anonymous8:27 PM

      "cheap, false pathos"

      Perfect!

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    4. Anonymous4:08 AM

      I agree that this is a way for Greta to hurt Sarah, by keeping the fake pregnancy in the spotlight.

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    5. Anonymous8:47 AM

      It's a very interesting theory.

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  21. Anonymous6:57 PM

    Sarah sounds like she wants people to be reminded of this old story. She sounds like she wants it brought to the forefront. If, she cares about her children, why would she bring up old wounds and bring this very private part of her and her child's life up again?

    It sounds like Sarah is frustrated. Sounds like she wants attention drawn to her private life again. Sounds like she wants debates and arguments and fights on blogs and like the narcissist she is, prefers to bring her innocent child into the fray. The person Sarah should be truly angry at is Greta Van Susteren for bringing up this subject. Greta is the person that is the aggravator here. SHE is the one rehashing this old story on Greta Wire and asking people to comment on this. Pretty disgusting thing for a friend to do.

    It's very interesting how Greta revives this old story and Sarah immediately jumps on the bandwagon, trying to rile up an angry posse on a Saturday night, and all for WHAT? What would be the motive in doing that?

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    1. She is increasingly starved for attention, and by bringing up the story from 2008, she is magically transported back to 2008 and the story will magically get just as much attention as it did then.

      She can pose as the doting maternal madonna, six years younger, with a wee helpless little one and suddenly be a heroic martyred mama and on the receiving end of all kinds of sympathetic attention what with all those bad old liberals being so mean to her and her precious little baby.

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  22. Anonymous7:00 PM

    The Photo At The Top Of This Post

    It looks like it was photo shopped. It almost looks like someone wearing a Sarah Palin mask. The head is way too big for her body and seems to face forward to much for her body position. Wish there was a comparison side-by-side with the Sarah, Mercede, and Triggy Bear photo.

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    1. Anonymous7:44 PM

      I have to agree. Also, look at the skin tone of her hands as compared to her face: ghostly-white as compared to bronze. That doesn't add up either, especially for someone as vain and apparently beauty-conscious as Palin.

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    2. On the contrary, it's the ghastly white hands contrasting with tan arms that make the photo genuinely Palin. Just look at the photos of Palin those very week.

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  23. emrysa7:26 PM

    I gotta disagree with andrew on this one - while the mozilla guy can certainly exercise his first amendment rights, the rest of us can exercise ours and refuse to support the company he works for. if the company he works for decides it's too much of a loss, then they need to change their decision. that's just how it works. - especially when the issue at hand is about equality for all peoples.

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    1. Anonymous7:59 PM

      Aren't most people using Safari now? Seriously, who needs a Mozilla/firefox?

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    2. Anonymous5:36 AM

      Such ignorance from 7:59. Apple stopped supporting the Windows version of Safari over a year ago. So you're not advised to use it unless you have a Mac.

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  24. Anonymous7:38 PM

    Whatever happened to Cathy Baldwin-Johnson? Still getting hush money from sarahpac? That's gotta be expensive. Seriously, do we even know that Cathy Baldwin-Johnson is still alive?

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    1. Anonymous9:19 PM

      Dr. CBJ can never talk because of HIPPA. As long as we are guessing about things, her specialty is (was) abused teens. That would include girls who had been raped or who were pregnant. What are the chances that Dr.CBJ delivered Trig? We're guessing that he was premature and would have needed to stay in a neonatal ward for a while. Anchorage or some people guessed Seattle. Anchorage is more likely.

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    2. BlueDragon3:57 AM

      I disagree that Dr CBJ can never talk. HIPPA is relevant only for medical care that actually happened and is documented. If SP never gave birth to a baby, then it is not in any medical record. You see what I mean? It didn't happen, so there is no record -- no record, no event, so it is not covered by HIPPA rules.
      I think she's silent because of a serious threat. Or money. Either one would explain her silence. but she does not need to keep her silence because of HIPPA regarding the supposed birth (from SP) of Trig, since it never happened. She would be free to reveal that she did not attend such birth.

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    3. Anonymous5:10 AM

      Ask ANY normal mother what she would do if her childbirth story was questioned? The answer - SHOW the birth certificate. Since $carah can't, then it does not exist, not with HER name on it. To think that she questions the President about his birth certificate is just outrageous, he has shown his.

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    4. Anonymous6:55 AM

      HIPAA - not enforceable in case of fraud.
      CBJ stays silent becasue she would lose her license.
      She is a FPP ,nit a high risk OB. She did not have the continuing medical education or surgical skills to be a high risk OB. IF Sarah was really Tri-G's birth mother and CBJ induced her at MatSu, her career would be over. SO many rules broken .
      So, she helped concoct the hand off at MatSu on 4/18 with Palin's fundy church friends who were on the hospitalboard.
      CBJ if anyone put any pressure on her, could not defend her aleged actions. She did not update her surgical skills to be a high risk OB. She did not have the malpractice insurance to be a high risk OB. End of story.
      CBJ is a joke to real medical people who know what went down.

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    5. Maple7:12 AM

      @BlueDragon -- Regardless of HIPPA, the doctor would never admit to the truth, because that would prove she lied in her last-minute statement about Palin's health, prior to the election. Nope, Dr. CBJ's will remain tightly zipped.

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    6. Weazer11:30 AM

      Why did Palin return to work 3 days after the birth? Why did Palin take a premature baby with a hole in his heart to work with her 3 days after he was born? Did Palin use insurance for this "birth"? Could she have defrauded the insurance companies? Having a baby is expensive so maybe she paid out of pocket and didn't use insurance money to pay the hospital bills. All questions that should have been asked and answered 6 years ago.

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    7. Anonymous11:35 AM

      does she still practice in AK? Do reporters ever call and ask her for interviews regarding delivering the then governors baby? if so what does she say?

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    8. Anonymous12:29 PM

      Google says she's still practicing in AK, still affiliated with the hospital.

      Who in the world would trust a doctor who gave such bad advice to a (supposed) pregnant woman with a history of miscarriages who was carrying a special needs pregnancy and reported leaking amnio fluid and contractions so many weeks before her due date?
      Who would trust a doctor who didn't insist that same patient give birth in a hospital equipped to deal with a high risk delivery?

      From the story Sarah Palin told, CBJ is either a shitty doctor or a liar and a fraud.

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    9. Anonymous3:29 PM

      Weazer you ask really good questions. New moms are advised to keep their babies away from germy strangers for a few weeks. This is just "common sense". You don't know who might be coming down with a cold or flu and any sensible mother would not want to expose their newborn to possible pathogens- and that's a NORMAL newborn, not one with medical issues.

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    10. Anonymous3:56 PM

      @ 5:10AM a birth certificate is not good enough, they could forge one very easily.

      At this point only DNA would be definitive proof.

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    11. Anonymous4:53 PM

      Trig was also traipsed around the country (sometimes only half-dressed) during his "mother's" book tour at the height of flu season.

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    12. Anonymous4:55 PM

      That stupid book tour where she put Trig on display was a travesty. A real mother would have made it clear that little Trig was at home with his Dad getting regular therapy and settling into a routine. Instead, she used him as a prop.

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    13. Anonymous6:02 PM

      Remember also that CBJ is a fundie and recipient of some MD of the year award that SP recommended for her. All the reasons why CBJ might want to speak up, or could speak up are irrelevant: CBJ probably was an ardent supporter of SP's political goals.

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  25. Anonymous7:38 PM

    Hey, Sarah how about those Wisconsin Badgers? Oh, that's right, they LOST! BWAHAHAHAHA. You sure can pick winners.

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    1. Anonymous9:17 PM

      Did Sarah jinx Wisconsin? Was it Walker? Ryan?

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  26. Anonymous7:48 PM

    The photo at the top suits her... creepy dumb fu...

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  27. Anonymous7:55 PM

    Anyone of average intelligence who looks into this with an eye for truth knows Sarah Palin did not birth Trig. She is being protected... for now... but the truth is bound to get out. She is as slimy as they come.

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  28. Anonymous8:04 PM

    The only times that Sarah can hold Tri-g like that is when he is asleep. Otherwise he slaps the shit out of her. Stop using your Grandson for photo ops, Granny Grifter. Tripp must be showing his age, the photos have declined lately. Do any of the Palins know their true birth dates?

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    1. Anonymous9:16 PM

      Now that Trig is older, the one who seems to pose with him is Todd.

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    2. Anonymous10:41 AM

      All I can do is laugh at you Anonymous. You're ridiculous.

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    3. Anonymous2:32 PM

      Take a good look in a mirror, 10:41.

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    4. Anonymous3:29 PM

      @9:16 Do you suppose that might be because Todd is his dad? Wonder who the mother is...

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  29. Anonymous8:07 PM

    If Greta had a dogkeeper who had bragged about transferring his clients' dogs in a closed hot car without food or water for a day and drove them 500 miles without any windows open, would she trust that dogkeeper to look after her precious pets ever? Doubt that she would.

    Why is Greta so shocked that people questionned the wild ride story that Palin told the press? Why is Greta so shocked that voters feared Palin an irresponsible parent and therefore would be an irresponsible VP?

    If the hypothetical dogkeeper, like Palin, were to go speak to dog events and tell the same wild story about how tough his clients' dogs were in terrible conditions and laugh it off, I bet Greta would have him reported to his superiors so fast, his head would spin.

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    1. Anonymous8:33 PM

      Greta is as big a skank as $arah.

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    2. Anonymous9:08 PM

      Perfect analogy! And here's a similar real-world example- remember when Romney told the story of hosing down his poor sick terrified dog strapped to the roof of the family car?

      He expected to be applauded for his "decisive action", but was certainly miffed by the horrific backlash.

      Wait for it, Sarah, it'll come.

      Wild Tortoise

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    3. Anonymous5:14 AM

      Greta has never given birth, so can not relate. As a journalist, she really should have done research, to see if $carah's story was plausible. It is not.

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  30. Anonymous8:26 PM

    This winkin' and smirkin' dope is well on her way to
    ignobleness. In fact, she is already there. She is just a clown.

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  31. Anonymous8:54 PM

    "Yep, that’s left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell."

    Yea like when those liberals want to monitor consenting adults in their bedrooms... or when they wanted to ban birth control.... or when those damn liberals threw a fit over the inaccurate portrayal of the story of Noah... or when those deceitful bastards said that Obamacare was the devils work...........................................
    oh wait, that was you Sarah and your knucledragging followers. Love it when "they" talk shit and everyone is suppose to put up with it since they believe themselves to be morally superior.

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  32. Anonymous8:55 PM

    We're saying Sarah is a liar until we are the birth certificate,

    You knOw,

    Like you guys pulled on PBO for YEARS! !!

    if she's lying about giving birth it speaks to her mental health


    Greta works for FOX.

    my favorite is when she tries to stand up against the misogynists on her network.

    Either Fox doesn't know Greta is a woman. ..

    Or she doesn't.

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  33. Anonymous9:07 PM

    Is this kid shailey and todds?

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    1. abbafan7:35 AM

      Anon @ 9:07 P.M. - that has been my assessment all along! The dark, straight hair, the facial features, it all adds up. Since $arah concocted this sham, I am firmly convinced that Toad fathered that kid. When $arah found out she was on McCain's short list, she enlisted help to conjure up the hoax. Think about it - a vp running mate with a promiscuous unwed teenage daughter, an adulterous partner - that would not cut it in the eyes of her holier-than-thou base. Her whole existence is nothing but lies and falsehoods; she is deathly afraid that someone close to her, or, more likely, someone who she burned royally will talk! The leaks are showing in the dam; it is only how soon will it burst!

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    2. Anonymous10:40 AM

      Abbafan, why are you a liar? I don't understand why you lie about people. You're still slandering kids and running your mouth about things you couldn't know.

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    3. Anonymous11:34 AM

      I doubt Ms Tripp would allow an unfit parent like sarah raise her kid.

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    4. Anonymous11:51 AM

      I can't believe you still don't understand the definition of "slander," 10:40. Are you incapable of learning?

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    5. abbafan1:56 PM

      11:51 P.M. - I must have rattled the cage; the uneducated palin kooks are crawling out of the dung heap!

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    6. Anonymous5:55 AM

      HUH!
      Is Shailey a foil?
      Nah

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  34. Anonymous9:46 PM

    Greta found a news topic unrelated to Palin and bizarrely made it about Palin with a clear effort to stir up outrage against Andrew Sullivan and protection for Sarah. It all seems so pointless.

    But what if (I know, this is also bizarre) Greta got a phone call from Todd saying that the poor ratings from her show, poor attendance at the rallies, and minimal media attention had put Sarah in a funk. Could Greta stir up the troops so Sarah would feel loved?

    Gryphen - Do you have any sources who might have a handle on Palin's mood?

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    1. Grrrr !6:14 AM

      Wish there was a "Like" button ... I'm curious too.

      But while I strongly believe Palin faked a pregnancy, I believe just as strongly that -- right now, anyway -- it's NOT an issue that has any hope of hurting Palin at all.and therefore there's NO point in trying convince anyone that it's true.

      If the Trig question has any value at all, it's only in examining when, how and why she uses it to her advantage.

      For instance, I find it REALLY weird that Greta would suddenly try to use it to bludgeon Sullivan -- AGAIN -- yet she drops it in such an "out of the blue" way that it seems like a total non-sequitor. That makes no sense considering:

      1. Sullivan hasn't posted anything about Trig in a long time and

      2. when he did, it was half-hearted and only -- what? -- once or twice? Plus,

      3. most people these days are totally uninterested in the Trig controversy both because it's "old news" AND because (I believe) they regard it as a totally wacky and thoroughly discredited consipracy theory.

      Still, among all Palin's defensive weapons, her spin on questioning her Trig story is unique for two reasons:

      1. Of all the criticism leveled at her, "questions re: Trig" is the one she's been most successful at discrediting.

      Despite a virtual mountain of very compelling evidence -- photos showing how her body suddenly and inexplicably ballooned in size ... all the bizarre anomalies in her "Wild Ride" narrative ... etc., etc., etc.?

      Even with all that, it's become EXTREMELY rare to ever see the Trig story mentioned AT ALL in ANY comments posted on ANY MSM site. Hell, these days even NON-Palinbots are likely to join in dismissing it with outrage and ridicule.

      And consider this: before the official investigations into Bridgegate started, there was FAR more publicly available evidence that Palin faked her pregnancy with Trig than of Christie's involvment in punitive lane closures.

      But now? HE'S under fire and the investigations have just advanced to the grand jury stage! But Sarah? She's succeeded it making anyone who even mentions Trig-gate the object of scorn and ridicule!.

      One other, final possible piece of the "Palin Puzzle": she sure seems to be cranking out a WHOLE LOT of media these days!

      One minute she's slamming Obama's "Mom Jeans" ... the next she's endorsing another hand-picked, Tea Party Bozo ... hosting yet ANOTHER crappy reality show ... twitching her way through Fallon's "comedy" sketch ... and even taking a single line from a 2008 stump speech (which some anonymous McCain speechwriter thought up and Sarah merely read off a teleprompter) and she's spinning it as a brilliantly on-the-nose, "I told ya so" prediction of Obama's foreign policy "incompetence" ...

      I wish I knew what how any of this fits together because I don't know how to fight back against Palin any more. However, I'm 99.9% certain that posting nasty, juvenile insults about her on sites like this one has absolutely no efffect.

      All I know for certain is that I'm totally FED UP with Palin and I'm APPALLED that after six long, noisy years, instead of being exposed as a pathological liar and disgraced into silence, her media profile is as high, if not higher, than ever!

      I also know that Sarah Palin is NOT "finished," "obsolete" or "powerless." She HAS had, and continues to have, an impact -- not only by hindering Obama's efforts and not merely by shaming liberals into confusion and ineffectiveness, but also by helping to further degrade our already-shameful political scene.

      Instead oif just coming here, reading what she's up to and then calling her nasty names, I wish that same energy was devoted to finding a LEGAL and ETHICAL way to SHUT HER DOWN, once and for all.

      Sorry for the long rant.

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    2. Anonymous7:34 AM

      That's why folks with evidence need to stop being such pussies or using the info to occasionally throw a bone to others who suspect the true events. Coming forward won't shut down all the venues who have been using it as a premise to exist.To the contrary it will give years worth of related stories regarding further investigation and speculation of other events in this sham family's past

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    3. Anonymous10:39 AM

      lol
      Gryphen knows jackshit about Palin or people who actually know her in the year 2014.

      That is evident

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    4. Anonymous10:59 AM

      Sure, got it 6:14. Happy trolling.

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    5. Grrrr !12:51 PM

      @Anonymous 10:59 AM

      Your second sentence proves that your first one's a lie -- and that all mine are, at the very least, far more worthwhile.

      Next time, aim at a toilet ... or a mirror.

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    6. Anonymous1:03 PM

      Grrrr - Rant appreciated.

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  35. I can't stand that insufferable witch using this kid. I didn't know a DS baby can move his tongue of his mouth at will esp trig. Or the did the vain stupid witch have his tongue photoshopped out? Boy I hate her. And check it out, the baby has to be asleep for him to come near her straw-like claws. she is actually forcing her bony finger underneath the little one's tiny hand. Next picture.

    Entitled: We know which one is a retard. Not photoshopped.

    Look how the witch is smashing the poor kids face into her shoulder. Looks likes he's about to wakey wakey. Can't have that can we bitch? You can't show a moving trig, right dumbo?

    I had to at least get the "real" out the way before I comment on the superficial like her clownish ideology.

    STFU witch, where are Bashir, Olbermann, state of AK, Dar, Mr. McGinniss, Syrin, The Christy's, G, PG, Mr. Dunn's, etc. "freedom" of speech? Just shut your stupid, ugly, raggedy mouth clown. You mean nothing in the whole scope of things, correction, you mean NOTHING period. That was a hint.

    You ran out of lifelines, hussy.

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  36. How much did they donate to the dems? Nothing? I really wouldn't care if they picked a better side instead of a racist, closed minded, exclusive, mean-spirited, regressive, war-mongering, pro-tortured, anti-choice, rape-is-relaxing, outsourcing, greedy-cold-hearted-health-barrons, overt racism, hitler-drawing, lying, meatheads side.

    If they didn't quit I wouldn't used their product. Nice going Mo.

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      Yes you are those things and your writing proves it GOL.

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    2. Anonymous11:50 AM

      That doesn't even make sense, 10:38.

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  37. Anonymous5:05 AM

    Poor Green Screen Granny. No one fucking CARES!!!! Look, Gryphen posts an article about your fake pregnancy and there are a whole 68 posts after it was up for 12 freaking hrs. Personally I was a little disappointed the same article was still up on top and that there wasn't a new article about something current up.
    Your fake pregnancy(yawn) is as boring as your political career( or lack of one).
    Just a few short yrs ago this article would have garnered 1,000 posts, but those days are long gone, just like your old invites to anything important.
    I'm betting you really miss those highly paid speeches huh? LOL, those days are long gone too.
    Maybe I'll see you at next yrs state fair, I'm sure you can get a token position judging the llamas or other insignificant livestock.

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    1. Anonymous7:36 AM

      hope she eats lots of deep fried twinkies and sticks of butter also, too.

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    2. Anonymous7:38 AM

      Puh-leeze. With her reputation, don't give this gun happy woman any ideas about getting close to livestock. You do know she reads here.

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  38. Our Lad5:08 AM

    Someone commented as to why Mrs. Palin would be eager to comment on this very damaging part of her past and the reason is, of course, that Mrs. Palin is fucking NUTS and has no control over her impulses, there is no check-in on her flight. It is incredible to me how she has managed to huckster this shaggy dog story of the magical birth for this amount of time. Jesus Christ, a shitty journalist, a lazy journalist could deflate this balloon of bullshit in a fuckin WEEK. Where is Hunter S. Thompson when you need him?

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  39. LisaB25958:00 AM

    Greta, I realize it's been a very long time since you've been a journalist, but you must understand that Sarah brought this on herself by making up stories that showed her exercising *extremely poor and potentially dangerous judgment* regarding the birth of Trig. So incredibly poor and potentially dangerous, that thinking minds have to ask questions about them.

    A journalist wants to know what the truth is:

    1. She was lying about how she gave birth because she's a drama queen.

    2. She was lying about giving birth at all and a drama queen.

    3. She is simply so stupid and selfish that she would go into premature labor with a special needs child and ignore all established medical protocols and board two long, transcontinental flights, then bypass the closer, better equipped hospital to deliver at the less qualified hospital.

    This is what journalists do when presented with stories and "facts" that do not jive. They want to know the truth.

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    1. Anonymous9:10 AM

      See- you are giving PAlin too much credit. She HAS NO control, were she really pregnant, to pick a FPP as a high risk OB as well as "choose" to delvier at an unqualified hosp'ital.
      SIMPLY WOULD NOT HAPPEN.
      People need to "get this".
      The entire tale - and that is what it is - a fairy tale - was made up by a mentally ill and uneducated woman, who was then helped out by her church folk - and then by the GOP to cover it up.
      You can't just show up at a hospital and tell them to deliver your kid. Puhleese!!!

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    2. Anonymous10:38 AM

      Technically, it changes nothing. Trig has a wonderful family, and parents who will probably be lifelong caregivers.

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    3. Anonymous11:49 AM

      10:38 knows Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy with Trig.

      Trig isn't getting the early intervention he needs and hasn't since he was born. He was a prop and has all but been forgotten by his so-called (fake) mother.

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    4. Anonymous1:17 PM

      ANON at 10:38 AM

      It changes many things, it directly goes to someone's need to lie instead of telling the truth. I think that breaks one of those 10 commandments.

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    5. Anonymous2:31 PM

      Exactly, 1:17.

      God and Jesus came out against lying.

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  40. Anonymous8:42 AM

    If you have disqus you can post your comment over on gretawire...sometimes she responds.

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  41. Anonymous10:15 AM

    OMG, so many misguided thoughts.

    -- Palin's supporters are not at fault for the cover-up of the hoax, nor are reporters or writers. It's the MSM owners or VIPS who will not let stories about the hoax be published. We now have documentation about that. Like the Fox reporter (Shusanna _____) who was taken off the air in 2008 when she raised the issue that Palin was being coddled by the press (reported in the recent book on Ailes); like the treatment McGinniss got re MSM coverage of this issue in his book; like the rumored report about the hoax that was written and ready to print at an AK paper a few days before the 2008 election, but was pulled; and like Christoper Hitchens' statement that the hoax was common knowledge among the elite colleagues in the news business that he palled around with (reported as the first paragraph in Brad Scharlott's piece).

    -- CBJ, the supposed MD for the Trig birth, was very possibly not in on this until rather late in the process, when she might have been coerced to join it. There is no record of any phone calls from Texas to discuss water breaking, only documtented-liar-extraordinaire Palin's word for it

    -- The CBJ medical letter could well have been forged, as one sees when one looks at all the oddities concerning its content, format, and the way it was issued, 3 hours before the 2008 election).

    -- The light/dark-adjusted Mar 26 photo of Palin (when she has a fully flat profile), the "smoking gun photo," and then the watermelon-sized pregnancy in April show as well as any legally valid evidentiary photos that Palin was not pregnant, unless one believes that going from concave flat to watermelon-sized to birth in 5 weeks is possible.

    -- The "Gusty pictures" and the accompanying video are also riddled with clues that something is fishy. The video of the TV broadcast has many puzzling splice marks, and it shows dark glass office windows behind Palin even though it was supposedly a "live at 5" taping on a day when sunset was 3 hours later on a clear day. Her hair/clothes styling also remembles that of the RNC stylists far more than Palin's own style before April 2008.

    -- Sure, we no longer care abut Palin and her pathetic issues, but don't we still care about McCain and Schmidt lying to us and then continuing to cover up? To me, this hoax remains as relevant to the 2016 election as it should have been to the 2012.


    This is not about Trig, nor about who the bio-parents of Trig might be, but it is about a hoax, a cover-up, and MSM manipultion intended to mislead voters by outright lying about the sacred GOP views about family values. Exposing this hoax is important because it will reveal how bankrupt those values are, and it will reveal the extent to which right-wing fat cats control our supposedly free press.

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    1. Anonymous10:36 AM

      to be fair, McGinnis is a victim of people who lied to him. And his book really had no continuity. It discussed people of no real relation to Sarah and slandered innocent people who've never been in politics.

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    2. Anonymous10:37 AM

      Mcginnis' book is the definition of bias and subjectivity.

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    3. Anonymous10:50 AM

      I have found that Joe McGinnis wrote well-researched books. What he wrote concerning Sarah has the ring of truth and helped me to make sense of many bizarre things about Sarah.

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    4. Anonymous10:56 AM

      Great post, Anon 10:15! You bring up many points that can't be ignored and yet the media sticks its head in the sand or say it isn't relevant. What the powers-that-be are really scared of is that people will find out just how much of a sham Sarah was as a VP candidate and what goes on behind the curtain.

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    5. Anonymous11:02 AM

      So, all the poster at 10:36/10:37 brings away from your excellent post, Anon 10:15, is to make an ad hominem attack on Joe McGiniss, who is mentioned in passing in the first paragraph.
      The points you make are indisputable.

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    6. Anonymous11:13 AM

      Definitions, 10:36-37? How about you look up the following words and learn what they really mean:

      continuity
      slander
      bias

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    7. Anonymous11:48 AM

      Joe McGinnis was a tireless research who knew how to find sources. Sarah Palin (and our neighborhood Palin fairytale troll) just didn't like what he dug up.

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    8. Anonymous3:21 PM

      10:36/10:37/ NOCOMPRENDS Your stupidity is quite apparent. Why have you been absent the entire time that Sarah Palin was doing endorsements? You must be Sarah Palin. Sarah is such a coward that she has to use fake names and anonymous monikers to try to hide the fact that she monitors Immoral Minority and other blogs. Show Tri-g's birth certificate, and prove that you gave birth to him. We all know that you would NEVER do that, LIAR. Why wear a wedding ring now? You are as fake as your 2008 post Tubal Ligation Pregnancy.

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    9. Anonymous4:51 PM

      Yes, it's nocomprehends/cara/carrie, etc. While it's nice to think it's Sarah (because how much fun would that be?), I think it's our old friend Brooklyn who used to live in NYC, but now lives in Florida.

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  42. slipstream10:28 AM

    You're going to lecture people about free speech, Palin?

    Really? After your "Fire David Letterman" campaign?

    What do you know about free speech?

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  43. Anonymous10:43 AM

    Why should someone RESIGN because of an OPINION?

    I don't understand. Just apologize. It's not like his position at Mozilla was high profile. Heck, I worked an event at Zuckerberg's house and am not sure I would recognize him on the street.

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    1. Anonymous11:46 AM

      He was the CEO. How is that not a high profile position?

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  44. Anonymous12:58 PM

    ooohh Greta really wants that story to blow wide open!

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  45. Anonymous11:21 PM

    Why would Greta bring Palin in on this topic? Makes no sense at all.

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