New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, a possible 2016 presidential contender, cancelled three scheduled media appearances in the UK on Tuesday, amid a controversy over his comments on measles vaccinations.
The Republican governor said on Monday parents needed some choice on whether to vaccinate their children, drawing criticism from political opponents who said such a policy could threaten public health.
His comments came a few hours after President Barack Obama said parents should have their children vaccinated, saying the science was "pretty indisputable."
Christie cancelled two question-and-answer sessions and a press statement he was due to make after meeting UK finance minister George Osborne.
"We just decided we're not going to have availability today," said Maria Comella, Christie's head of communications, after the last scheduled appearance was cancelled.
Oh yeah they just "decided" suddenly to have no press availability when the sole reason Christie was in the UK was to talk to the press and get his name out there before launching his bid for the GOP presidential nomination.
Here is how he responded to one reporter who did not get the memo about Christie not taking questions and continued trying to do his job.
When I asked Christie about ISIS and his UK meetings, he said, "Is there something you don't understand about 'No Questions'?"
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) February 3, 2015
Yeah what part of "I said something embarrassing on foreign soil making Americans look like nitwits and now I'm trying to lay low do you not get?"Okay so should we consider the fact that the Christie team recognized that the vaccination response was ignorant to be progress on behalf of Republicans?
Here let me answer my own question.
Nope.
Courtesy of TPM:
Yesterday, first Paul tried to get to the right (or perhaps just to the crazy) of Chris Christie by going further than Christie on Vaccine Choice. Then he came out a bit later in the day with his claim that vaccines can cause "profound mental disorders." Now it comes out that back in 2009 Paul told InfoWars channel 'Prison Planet TV' that mandatory vaccines could lead to "martial law".
Well okay then, it looks like the whole GOP clown car is now filled mostly with anti-vaxxers.
Good to know.
OT - Sorry, but with Sarah sitting in the corner you haven't posted about her in a few days...so I'll leave this here.
ReplyDeleteAn old Politico article from 2010: Next for GOP leaders: Stopping Sarah Palin
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44449.html
It describes exactly what just went down, in terms of the GOP smackdown she received last week.
People are not as interested in the idiot. Look at the number of commentaries regarding her compared to years ago.
DeleteThe Republican and Tea Parties want nothing to do with her! As always, she is the kiss of death when connected to anyone!
Why must every post be polluted with a comment on Palin, no matter how off-topic?
Delete>>Well okay then, it looks like the whole GOP clown car is now filled mostly with anti-vaxxers.
ReplyDeleteC'mon Gryphen, I hate the GOP with all my being, but that is NOT an accurate statement at all. There's a whole slew of GOPers that have come out in favor of vaccines, so please correct your post. Fox New's O'Reilly, Kelly the blond point blank said get vaccinated. So did Cruz, McConnell, Pence, Carson, Walker, Rubio, Jindal, Boehner...and a whole lot more, so if we're gonna go after the GOP Clown car, let's get it right and not promote misinformation.
From what I can tell Rand has now backpedaled, in fact posting a pic of himself being vaccinated...Christy is in damage control.
www.politico.com/story/2015/02/republicans-2016-vaccines-114890.html
GOP Mainstream Is Coming Out in Favor of Vaccinations
http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-mainstream-is-coming-out-in-favor-of-vaccinations/
Unless Rand Paul comes out and says the MMR does NOT cause profound mental disorders, he has not back pedaled. He got a booster shot, but he feeds the crazy idea that parents can decide not to vaccinate based on the bad information he vocalized, himself.
DeleteYea, they have all gotten on the bandwagon FOR vaccinations knowing full well they would not be elected in 2016 (if up for another term) because they are part of the Republican party and connected to Chris Christie and Rand Paul! What a bunch of losers!
Deletehttp://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeb-bush-tries-to-avoid-controversy-with-succinct-defense-of-vaccines/
DeleteSo Rand Paul, in an effort to turn the tide of negative publicity for his pandering to anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists, ran out and got a booster vaccination to show that he’s not anti-vaccination, completely with brooding about how he’s such a victim of “misreporting” known as “quoting him directly”.
Deletehttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/dont-be-fooled-by-rand-pauls-vaccine-stunt/
Maybe getting the booster shot will kill the road kill that's on top of Rand's head. What the hell is that thing anyway? It looks stupid.
DeleteRand Paul and Alex Jones are joined at the hip.
ReplyDelete"Then he came out a bit later in the day with his claim that vaccines can cause "profound mental disorders."
ReplyDeleteIs that his new excuse for being stupid? (He was given vaccines as a child)
Burnett is not the only prominent female cable news host to speak out in defense of vaccines as a measles outbreak spreads across the U.S. Fox News’ Megyn Kelly, who herself is a mother of three young children, told viewers Monday night that she always vaccinates her kids as their doctor prescribes.
ReplyDelete“This is going to be a big issue for politicians going forward, because it’s about Big Brother,” Kelly said. “But on the other hand, some things do require some involvement of Big Brother.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-erin-burnett-delivers-powerful-defense-of-vaccines-this-is-not-about-choice/
"The state doesn't own your children. Parents own their children and it is an issue of freedom."
ReplyDelete- Rand Paul
Rand Paul thinks parents OWN their children.
Gov. Bobby Jindal (R., La.)
ReplyDelete“I urge all parents to get their kids vaccinated. Vaccinations are required for children to attend public school and pre-K. Just about every private school requires vaccinations. Here in Louisiana, we actively encourage vaccinations and help low-income families vaccinate their children.
“I worked in health care for a long time. I have no reservations about whether or not it is a good idea and desirable for all children to be vaccinated. There is a lot of fear mongering out there on this. I think it is irresponsible for leaders to undermine the public’s confidence in vaccinations that have been tested and proven to protect public health. Science supports them and they keep our children safe from potentially deadly but preventable diseases. Personally, I would not send my kids to a school that did not require vaccinations. Vaccinations are important. I urge every parent to get them. Every one.”
Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.)
“Absolutely, children should be fully vaccinated. There’s always going to be exceptions for children that are immune-suppressed, but those are small exceptions. Children as it is in many states are required to have a certain panel of vaccinations before they can attend school. And not only is that for their protection, it’s for the protection of other children. If you think about the childhood illnesses that once permanently debilitated people like my grandfather, who contracted childhood polio — and you think today that measles, rubella, polio have been eradicated from the U.S. and much of the world — why would we go backwards?”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/02/03/what-2016-gop-hopefuls-say-about-vaccines/
Problem is, (and notice they (GOP) don't mention this) that the religious exemption makes mandatory for school vaccinations not really mandatory.
DeleteSaw the picture of Rand Paul getting vaccinated. What kind of vaccination does one get in a dental chair?
ReplyDeleteHopefully it is TRUTH serum! Christie is so repulsive, to look at and to listen to.
DeleteOoops! This is more likely his office, not a dental office. Either way, a dental or ophthalmologist office is not where one generally gets vaccines!
DeleteNeither one of these jerks will EVER be President of the United States! They continually make fools of themselves and don't have the required temperament,
ReplyDeleteThe anti-vaxxers are only against it because Obama is for it... makes one (almost) wish the White House would issue a statement strongly condemning the use of battery acid as mouthwash
ReplyDeleteGood one!
DeleteAnd these are the same folks who make laws to have pregnant women undergo all kinds of test if they want an abortion?
ReplyDeleteThe anti-vaccination movement is not a distinctly partisan crusade. Anti-vaxxers can line up anywhere along the political spectrum from the far right to the radical left and all points in between. However, a 2014 Pew Research poll found that Democrats were more likely to support requiring children to be vaccinated than either Independents or Republicans. A majority of Democrats, Independents and Republicans supported requiring vaccinations.
ReplyDeleteHowever, 34 percent of Republicans and 33 percent of Independents thought parents should be able to decide not to vaccinate their children. A much smaller percentage of Democrats (22 percent), felt the same way.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/03/vaccine-wars-2016-candidates-stand-protecting-health.html
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/02/young-adults-more-likely-to-say-vaccinating-kids-should-be-a-parental-choice/
Then there are the group of us that say don't give so many at once and start later if appropriate. Mandatescan be hard.
DeleteA lot of left anti-vaxxers are homeschooling, granola eating back to nature nuts. They step OUT of society to pursue what they beleive. THe right antivaxxers want to plop their infectious butts in the MIDST of society. Big difference.
DeleteOT again, sorry!
ReplyDeleteInteresting article about Prudhoe Bay oil production in Exploration & Production, an energy industry magazine.
Here's what it says on page 4 of the article:
"While Alaska has a lot of oil production, higher taxes have led to less production. Former governor Sarah Palin helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits, resulting in reduced production. Since 2006, oil production taxes in Alaska have risen 350% based on an oil price of $80/bbl and even more at $90, the Resource Development Council for Alaska reported on its website. ANS production has since fallen from 716,000 bbl/d in 2008 to 590,000 bbl/d in fiscal year 2012.
In May 2013, then-Governor Sean Parnell signed the controversial More Alaska Production Act (MAPA) into law and said it would help reverse declining production in Alaska, which had led to lower state revenue. Alaska’s government operating budget is more than 90% dependent on ANS oil production, and “over a third of [Alaska’s] entire economy would collapse without ANS oil,” said Dave Harbour, former chairman of the Regulatory Commission of Alaska, in an article on the Northern Gas Pipelines website"
http://www.epmag.com/prudhoe-bay-once-lifetime-discovery-779816#p=1
So much for "Drill, baby, drill" "conservative" "energy expert" Palin. Since 2006, oil taxes have increased 350% and production has fallen from 716k to 590k bbl/d.
She took a chunk of that oil tax money and re-distributed it in the form of big, windfall checks every year for every man, woman and child. I'm sure those big, fat, socialist oil checks bought her those high approval ratings her idiot supporters brag about. Didn't work out so well for the state economy though when prices and production dropped.
Anon@9:27. Just wanted to point out that the "big windfall" checks, while yes given to AK residents who must meet eligibilty criteria, are not "big, fat, socialist oil checks." They are not always the same amount as the amount of the check is based on the performance of thePermament Fund Dividend, over a rolling 5 year period, on investments made by the fund's board. The fund was established many years ago to allow Alaskans to share in the oil profits, in a form of "owner state". The governor doesn't issue the checks - the dividend board oversees that, and the checks are issued by the state. And, you are right, oil production plays a huge part in the economy.
Deletegood god! paul is a doctor!
ReplyDeleteHe was an optometrist. Took the test to become an opthalmologist. FAILED, more than once. So, he founded his own Board of Opthalmologists. Lo and behold - he PASSED. Rules are for democrats, the repubs. make their own.
DeleteYea, he is, but check out how he got there! He is very circumspect about getting his license to practice. He is NOT a medical doctor!
DeleteAccording to Wikipedia he got his MD from Duke in 1998 and is certified with the American Board of Ophthalmology
DeleteI want to publicly thank Great Britain for allowing the GOP Presidential hopefuls to come to their country, speak out loud, and get humiliated one by one. Mittens, Christie, Paul, walker, and Sarah's next. Please proceed, GOP. You might want to find a country that doesn't speak English for your next foray into 'international relations.'
ReplyDeleteThey caught onto W even before he visited!! They were in shock that the dimwit became president TWICE. I told my relatives the vote was fixed both times. Imagine if President Obama refused to take questions after making a big flub like FatBoy did? He is more of a MAN than any of these wimpy, ass kissing repubs. He is not a coward, he faces up to his detractors.Chris Dumpling Christie is an overgrown sissy boy.
DeleteGotta love the Brits for how they totally take the wind out of pompous gasbags like Mittens and now Christie. You don't want to tick them off. They're merciless and their wits are super sharp when it comes to insults.
Delete'Used to work with someone from England and it was beautiful watching him take down a really rude customer with one simple putdown.
M from MD
I can hardly wait for that shit-stain Scott Walker's foreign credentials tour.
ReplyDeleteAnti-vaxxing might certainly explain a lot in terms of their idiocy...
ReplyDeleteCan you imagine Chris Christie negotiating anything? Look at the above photo of him. He is a bully - nothing more and nothing less.
ReplyDeleteHe stopped talking with the media over there because he was doing such a shitty job in his prior discussions with them -re: vaccinations.
He is NOT presidential material!
Not only did Christie come out against vaccines, then he tried to flipflop on the subject a day later. I wonder if he knows that he sunk his chances of every being president with that stupid remark.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you could add that gif back in of him falling on his ass.
O/T but Gryphen, have you seen this? What an amazing example of commitment and hard work!
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Some people put all of their faith and trust into allopathic medicine, meaning, doctors, Big Pharma, and going under the knife. That people say we have the greatest health care in the world is either nuts or ignorant.
ReplyDeleteThere are many other types of medicines and healthcare used around the world that have been safer and more effective, some for centuries and even thousands of years. France has had many, many more measles cases over the last few years, yet they and fifty other countries use homeopathic care.
What doctors call alternative medicine, such as ayurvedic is mainstream in India and that part of the world. Naturopath medicine, Korean hybrid, Japanese medical practices, Chinese medicine,, etc.
All of these countries have measles outbreaks but they don't go into mass hysteria when it happens. They simply deal with it.
As to the question if vaccines are safe and would the makers put profit before safety, one only needs to look back at the Anthrax vaccine scandal the government wanted to mandate. Interestingly, the guy who mandated this, himself rerfused to be vaccinated. His name was Clinton
http://www.militaryreporter.org/anthrax.html
All of these countries have measles outbreaks but they don't go into mass hysteria when it happens. They simply deal with it.
DeleteYup, they just deal with the birth defects caused by exposing women to rubella.
There's that hysteria again.
Deletefrom wiki
DeleteThe classic triad for congenital rubella syndrome is:
Sensorineural deafness (58% of patients)
Eye abnormalities—especially retinopathy, cataract, and microphthalmia (43% of patients)
Congenital heart disease—especially pulmonary artery stenosis and patent ductus arteriosus (50% of patients)
And you have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening.
DeleteNo homiopathic medicine as ever been developed anywhere to prevent the measles, mumps, whooping cough, polio and a host for other diseases. The ONLY thing, in any country that has brought these diseases under control are vaccines.
DeleteYour thinking is so flawed and filled with non facts that it is ridiculous and if you don't think vaccines are used is Asia you are truly an idiot.
@1:30PM
Delete"And you have a better chance of winning the lottery than that happening."
What happening?
What your response tells me is that you support greedy corporation and Big Pharma and are a believer in American Exceptionalism.
DeleteIf you can find anywhere that I said homeopathics prevent anything or that no Asians use vaccines, I'll buy you a beer.
So, homeopathic remedies don't prevent anything. They also don't cure anything. Most of the time, homeopathic "medicine" is just a big scam. It's some kind of herb or mineral that is dissolved into water than diluted to a ridiculous degree. Then the snake oil salesmen sell it to rubes like you, apparently.
DeleteNO, I believe in modern medicine and vaccines which have eradicated multiple diseases , including measles from the USA until you anti vaxxers started your dishonest and non scientific crap. I do support vaccines, because I am one of those that suffered and still suffer from the effects of rubella's long term effects. And BTW I was stationed in Japan when there were a handful of measles cases yrs ago and the whole country was up in arms. So please quit speaking about things you know nothing about.
DeleteUh, no. THey too had their round of stupid antivaxxers. But then the science came out definitively, and they listedned to it. France=/= India. Get a globe.
DeleteHere you go: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/02/03/map-113-countries-have-higher-measles-immunization-rates-than-the-u-s-for-1-year-olds/
DeleteANd here. FActs, data. - you're welcome
DeleteGo drink a thermometer.
DeleteRand Paul Linked to Doctors’ Group That Challenges Vaccinations
ReplyDeleteBack in 2009, when Rand Paul was pursuing his long-shot bid to win Kentucky’s Republican Senate primary, he spoke to a small physicians’ association that has publicized discredited medical theories, including possible links between vaccines and autism and between abortion and an increased risk of breast cancer.
At the time, Mr. Paul, an ophthalmologist, was no stranger to the group, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. He boasted at its annual meeting that he had been a member for more than two decades and that he relied on its research, statistics and views about the role of government in medicine.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/us/politics/rand-paul-linked-to-association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons.html
Clearly, it should be mandated that every person in America should be given the flu vaccine.
ReplyDeletethe flu vaccine this year is useless for the type of virus that is prevailent
DeleteNo, it is not useless. It provides some protection for some strains that are around this year. Not 100% protection and maybe not for the most prevalent strain. But, as far as I'm concerned, some protection is better than none. Hopefully, some day soon, we will have a universal flu vaccine, but until then, scientists do the best they can to predict what strains will be prevalent in the coming year.
DeleteSo, no, not useless.
vaccines also boost your immune system, so that if you get another type of flu, the IS is primed.
Deleteno vac- no moving about in society. they used to mark the doors of the infected. put the no vacs on an island just like the lepers. give old scarah a Job. she can be Queen of somethin' finally. send poodle boy and the new Jersey two ton wonder to govern.
ReplyDeleteThis will not make me popular, but as usual, don't care. I have to agree with Chris Christie, but I know things about vaccines that people who get their information from propagandized MSM and corrupt government agencies don't know. Also doctors just do whatever the drug companies tell them to do and many (connected to certain health care systems or who want bonuses) are required to meet quotas with regard to vaccines. Most don't do their own research. Some people have immune system defects, some have chronic infections that will bloom with the stimulation of certain types of cells those viruses dwell in and vaccines cause this. That blooming of viruses (herpes viruses usually) causes brain damage. I know as I am one of those people with right brain problems including massive visual-spatial processing deficits, that includes verbal aggressiveness, does this sound familiar, LOL. If they did testing to determine who needs to avoid the vaccines, allowed the MMR to be given as separate vaccines, stopped slamming kids with too many at one time and stopped the one size fits all mind set more parents would get their kids vaccinated. The reason they used Thimerosol in vaccines was to kill the fungus they were contaminated with, fungus in your body turns of certain components of the immune system allowing suppressed viruses or spirochetes to bloom. Fungus is not the only vaccine contaminant. I can't have vaccines, they make me really sick and that happened when I was a kid too. When I was a nurse I had to have them, then I crashed and could not work, then I was "counseled" for calling in sick. Anything that depresses or activates my immune system triggers CMV and other co-infections to bloom. ME/cfs and Chronic Lyme are Post Sepsis (per NIH) AIDS-like illnesses. This caused right brain damage that lead to learning disorders, cognitive problems and decades of suffering along with sensory sensitivities. Also decades of being misunderstood, demonized, denied appropriate health care, judged and slammed with injustice when I ended up with dementia (ME/cfs) and PTSD from workplace bullying in Nome, and continuing social disabilities due to all of that. So realize there is way more to this story than the negative propaganda about so called, "anti-vaxers". There is also massive info that the CDC is corrupt and lies, they covered up research about the MMR vaccine that clearly shows a large increase in autism in black boys< 36 months. But it shows increased autism in everyone. A whistleblower came forward. Merck is in trouble for knowingly selling a defective mumps component of the MMR for over a decade so they could dominate the market and make huge profits because that is all drug companies care about. As a DES Daughter and having ME/cfs I already knew the CDC was corrupt from decades of information. Scientists patent research and make money off of tests they design which do not work. The FDA is also corrupt, but the NIH is better, in fact some orgs will only work with the NIH refusing to have anything to do with the CDC. Most people know the FDA is essentially owned by Big Pharma. We have also seen how dysfunctional the CDC is recently. Corruption leads to incompetence.
ReplyDeleteSorry, Cecilia, not buying it. My kids will still get all their vaccines, as most kids should, on schedule.
DeleteSorry, I have life long issues from contracting rubella that I don't even wish on the anti vaxxers and their children. You rant without proof, my proof that vaccines work is that the disease was eradicated from the USA You see, I actually know about vaccines
DeleteI am sorry if you truly have any of the diseases mentioned. However, you also suffer from conspriacy theoritis.
DeleteAnonymous 4:41 PM, Have you ever heard of Pubmed? Do you ever read anything? This is well documented science and some of it is in the news right now. Everything I mentioned is well documented.
DeleteObama is involved in this conspiracy theory and granted immunity to a CDC researcher William Thompson who reported they removed data that showed higher rates of autism with the MMR: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/obama-grants-immunity-to-cdc-whistleblower-on-measles-vaccine-link-to-autism/
Both of these two conspiracy theories are being promoted by the federal courts too. This one includes the crap mumps vaccine Merck used in the MMR for a decade.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/merck-whistleblowers_b_5881914.html
The first court case, United States v. Merck & Co., stems from claims by two former Merck scientists that Merck "fraudulently misled the government and omitted, concealed, and adulterated material information regarding the efficacy of its mumps vaccine in violation of the FCA
Anonymous 4:00PM There is proof and the fact that it is in the news and none of you know about it means you don't read much. If you know about vaccines then you know that for many of the vaccinated illnesses the numbers of infected individuals were actually already significantly decreased before the vaccination programs were started.
DeleteHere is an article from the Journal of Advanced Practice Nursing about lies about the flu stats from the CDC.
Deletehttp://www.asrn.org/journal-advanced-practice-nursing/1212-do-not-believe-everything-you-read-about-flu-deaths.html
There is more, tons more, but you will not find out about it from MSM.
Christie's broad-ass wife was batting away the UK media also. Talk about royalty. Those two are about as arrogant as you can get. They must think their shit don't stink. Got news for Christie, give it up now, you're not Presidential material. However, I do love when these people run and then they are torn to shreds and every freaking flaw is on full public display.
ReplyDeleteHey! Quit picking on the wife. I believe she is a saint being married to him and all. Both of them looked so cute in their little white lab coats and large plastic safety goggles. Brings back memories of Dukakis riding around in that tank that sank his presidential dreams.
DeleteWhy does that photo of Christie look as if he is screaming at a waitress "I want my cheeseburger this big!"
ReplyDelete"Christie cancelled two question-and-answer sessions and a press statement he was due to make . . ."
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Geez that Christie is a chickensh*t wimp. Now who does he remind me of?
Wait. Wait. Oh I know. That Ol' Cadaver from Wasilly.
Both effortlessly act the belligerent bully, yet when they are called out, both turn tail and run away as fast as they can, scared out of their ugly hides.
Yellow-bellies both of them!
stick to palin...cause you know nothing about vaccines....its indisputable that ALL VACCINES harm the person taking them..from links to autism...1 in 40...used to be 1 in 12000...to brain damage the science has spoken.
ReplyDeletestop watching palin a while and educate your selves to the danger that vaccines are.
There is no link between autism and vaccines, no matter what you or any ex strippers have to say. You must be mentally ill to believe that.,
Deletetj, Are you sure it isn't gmo corn that's causing the autism? How about Teflon? That could be causing autism. Beautiful over fertilized suburban lawns could be causing autism.
Deleteand btw..lol.WHY THE HELL ARE YOU CENSORING COMMENTS HERE while appearing to be a democrat?
ReplyDeleteseems you and fox news share the idea that only views you approve of get posted///
what a fucking fraud you are.
lol
Both your posts came up, maybe you should go back to the peepond if you don't like gryphens blog.
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