Each year a few ideas get proposed at the state Capitol that have people shaking their heads.
This year: Mandatory church attendance.
An Arizona state senator thinks it is a good idea for the American people.
State Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, brought it up during a committee meeting Tuesday while lawmakers were debating a gun bill concerning concealed weapons permits, not religion.
Allen explained that without a "moral rebirth" in the country, more people may feel the need to carry a weapon.
"I believe what's happening to our country is that there's a moral erosion of the soul of America," she said.
"It's the soul that is corrupt. How we get back to a moral rebirth I don't know. Since we are slowly eroding religion at every opportunity that we have. Probably we should be debating a bill requiring every American to attend a church of their choice on Sunday to see if we can get back to having a moral rebirth," she told the committee.
Let me get this straight. The reason that people feel the need to carry guns in this country is because church attendance is down?
WTF?
Ultimately Allen decided to support the conceal carry bill with this simple to understand explanation:
"I'm going to vote yes that people who are responsible who have a CCW permit don't have to worry about their guns as they're out and about and doing business in whatever building they're in except ones that where they aren't allowed."
Oh I get it, she's a crazy person.
"...people who are responsible who have a CCW permit don't have to worry about their guns..."
ReplyDeleteThat way the rest of us can worry about their damn lethal penis enhancers.
On of many problems with her statement is that apparently, as a lawmaker, she forgot that they did away with the CCW permits. Now all that is required is a gun and a pair of pants to stuff it down.
DeleteSo not only does she not understand the Constitution, but she also doesn't understand the laws she's amending.
I'm thinking from now on, we need to start calling these psychotic religious nuts UNconstitutional Conservatives...
It's not black, more of a dark burgundy.
DeleteYeah! OK, I'll start my own church and my church will of course be free of any tax stuff. I'll call my church "The Church of the divine bottle of Budweiser". We'll meet on Saturdays at my house. Ya'll come on, non drinkers are also welcome, in fact we'll use you as designated drivers. I pray this will suffice for the good politician.
ReplyDeleteYou heathen! She specifically said Sunday. But that's ok, you can redeem yourself by coming to the church I'll form called "hair of the dog" where tequila bloody Mary's will be worshipped.
DeleteI am starting an "I hate religion" church that will run 7 days a week. The "nectar from the Gods" ceremony will run from 5PM until 11 pm every sacred day ( Sunday-Saturday).Please bring your own "nectar of the Gods" which ever you find most Godlike and inspiring, and I will provide the lawn chairs and fire pit.
DeleteUh, is it too late to show up for the Sunday service of the hair of the dog and a Bloody Mary? Cause we (my new church friends) got a little carried away last night, you know praying and talking in tongues and I sure could use a Bloody Mary about now! And boy the talking in tongues was a going on! Prayer warriors and such, and I'm sure the good politician who says we should all attend church would understand!
DeleteI've never seen that hair color in nature..except maybe one year on our maple tree...maybe the hair dye has eaten her brains.
ReplyDeleteI think we can all say it's an "Ungodly color".
DeleteTotally off topic, but I think it's hilarious that an older lady who probably has her hair washed and set once a week is wearing black nail polish.
ReplyDeleteThat's when you know that a trend has run its course.
I think black nail polish is at least a three-peat (since I was at UT-Austin-1971). You can expect black and other dark colors to re-appear when our children/grandchildren re-discover photos from old fashion mags on-line. Bwahahahahaha
DeleteAll fashions seem to recycle about every 30 years or so. Hair styles. Nail polish colors. Patterns on clothing. Cuts of clothing. It seems it is a rare event that truly new things arrive.
DeleteBlack nails, on an old bag? She is a crazy.
Delete@Leland
DeleteThe gentle rule for women is that if you "wore it the first time around" don't wear it the next time it comes around.
Weekly church requirement..... Yeah, no thanks!
ReplyDeleteNot just weekly, but she gets to pick the day. Too bad for you if you go to mosque on Fridays.
DeleteNo Jehovah's Witnesses or Jews, either, because Saturdays are the days to shop at the mall, and get your nails painted in black (a la Sylvia Allen).
DeleteSundays -- Puritan "blue laws" will be in effect, closing most stores, to the financial detriment of every town and many residents. No work = no income. No revenue = no taxes paid.
So the only thing the state will allow you to do is go to church, come home to a Sunday roast, and then read the Bible together and pray.
Why not ban all TV broadcasts and stop internet service on Sundays, too, so that the devout won't be distracted by the sinful modern world? That's the next step.
Do as I do -- or else.
Well they can start with the homeless, there are millions of them and they can stay there.
DeleteWell, here in Michigan we have legislators who want to make education the job of the churches or to eliminate any requirements for teachers. Of course all of these legislators are Republican. And the Republicans say that they care about the Constitution!!!! Just what is the Koch/GOP vision for this country? It surely does not include anything like the Constitution. Just what would America be like in twenty years or fifty years?
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
Monarchic dicktatorship. .
DeleteYeah, she's scary, but we should be more scared of the people who elected this moron to represent them.
ReplyDeleteShe should preach to her own son in law. He is a guard at a detention center, accused of forcing inmates to perform oral sex on him. He could use a "come to Jesus moment" doncha think?
DeleteIf I were a person who attended church, the very last people I would want sitting next to me would be the town drunk, the scab-covered street whore and her pimp or the biggest drug dealer in town, all who had to attend due to some stupid law.
ReplyDeleteThe rate of stupid just continues to accelerate; is there no cure? I truly worry about the future of our country.
Why do you assume that only these people are the ones who don't go to church?
DeleteI'll bet many of the middle and upper-middle class people in your town or city lie in bed on Sundays (or Saturdays), go to brunch, or are at the gym, which is one of the new modern churches.
I "worry for the future of our country" when I see the denigration inherent in your dismissal of only certain undesirables. I wouldn't want to sit next to an angry, resentful insurance agent or Little League coach, either.
btw -- I've gone to services (Roman Catholic) where now people wear exercise clothes and bring their soda cans with them into the pews. But they're voluntarily attending church, even now. Why don't you boycott them, too?
::sigh:: You are assuming that I was assuming -- something -- which is a wrong assumption on your part.
DeleteHave a great day!
My father used to say "You will find more hypocrites in church on Sunday, than in any pub in town on Saturday might. If anyone at the local pub needs help, everyone chips in what they can. The church people will pray for you"
DeleteThe town drunk is most likely your pastor, and the whore your church organist who is screwing your pastor.
DeleteI would think any church worth it's Bibles would welcome those souls into it's pews. I stopped going to church as i was sick of all the hypocrites and bullying by 'elder 'members.
DeleteYou can't spell CRAZY without AZ.
ReplyDeleteJust sayin'...
The bar keeps getting lower.This idiotic idea only means she has way too much free time. I can just see all the other idiots nodding their heads yes yes.
ReplyDeleteMiss know it all fu!
I was hauled in for Catholic Mass twice a week (there was a "children's" Mass on Wednesdays) with no noticeable effect on my morals. But I can report that my ability to tune out is legendary.
ReplyDeleteI was 'forced' in the same manner and could not wait until I was on my own. I'm a senior today and do not attend church and consider myself an atheist! My personal 'switch' out of the Catholic church brought me great joy. Sad thing was, I was the 'outcast' in the family. Oh well!
DeleteAnother constitution lover, I see. Hump it constantly, just don't ever read it.
ReplyDeleteI'm convinced it's just the WORD "constitution" that they love, not our specific document...
DeleteWhenever it is suggested that voting be mandatory (as it is in many other countires that are even MORE deomocratic than the U.S. many rightwinger types go bonkers - even if it is pointed out that they can still cast a blank ballot - it's showing up at the polls taht would be mandated. They get all "infringment on MY FreEEEEeDOM! Want to bet this hair and pants on fire hypocrite would be one of them
ReplyDeleteWhat's this woman's maiden name, Torquemada??
ReplyDeleteI don't see crazy. I see very stupid.
ReplyDeleteLOl I am sure any church would just love for it to be mandatory for me to attend their service. I'm sure they'd appreciate all the logical arguments I would be forced to join when I heard the preachers ridiculousness. I say bring it on ; this could be fun Sundays would never be the same again!.
ReplyDeleteDear religious people of Arizona,
ReplyDeleteFrom this day forward, the Sabbath is on Sunday for everyone in Arizona. It does not matter what your religion says as to the time, day, or place of worship, I have spoken.
Sincerely,
Sylvia Allen
AKA Freedom loving, limited government conservative
She does sound a few crystals short of a snowflake, but she articulates the politi-Christian factions positions in this country when she says she wants a law to do force the action. Most of them totally missed Christ's explanation that it is one-on-one -- not law of the land.
ReplyDeleteIt's not just Arizona, it's like a bad infection...
ReplyDeleteMichigan Republican Says Schools Should be a Ministry of the Church
...So instead of the public schools our Founding Fathers envisioned, education should return to being a ministry of the church. Excuse me, but I think that’s what the Founding Fathers wanted to move away from.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/03/28/michigan-republican-schools-ministry-church.html
Ah, yes, the Glorious 1950s.
ReplyDeleteWhen rape and domestic violence was swept under the table. When unmarried women were forced to give up their children, who often were abused and neglected in orphanages.
When social drinking meant the three-martini lunch, and families who had to pretend that they were perfect when one or both parent was passed out, drunk, each night.
The Glorious '50s, when racial discrimination was still the rule. Oh, where are you, Oval Faubus, when we need you to keep segregating our schools? (Or should we remember Republican Dwight Eisenhower, who sent in the National Guard to allow seven [7 !!!] black students to enroll in a Little Rock high school?)
The Glorious '50s, before big companies became voracious "people," who used tax laws and lobbying to allow them to move millions of jobs overseas, leaving our communities destitute? Back before there were food and health safety nets for these now-unemployed citizens?
Back when women knew their place -- when they could be secretaries, but were blocked from many forms of higher education and from jobs in which they could use their brains. Remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sandra Day O'Connor, both law school graduates who couldn't get jobs with a law firm?
Back before birth control, so families of five, six, seven children were common -- and women were forced to stay home to take care of them -- and when one blue-collar salary could feed them all.
The Glorious 1950s. I lived through them. I went to church each Sunday because no one had ever suggested that there was an alternative. I sang in the choir. I went to the teen Sunday night get-togethers. No girl could serve as an acolyte, and there were no women at the pulpit.
I don't go to church anymore, and I'll pay whatever fine I'm levied to have the FREEDOM to worship, or believe, or not believe, in whatever manner I choose. That's in the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Right on, Remembering.
DeleteNo, no you've got it all wrong. It's not the NINETEEN fifties they fetish, it's the EIGHTEEN fifties. ;P
DeleteSome of these tea party types do not have a clue as to what freedom really means. They are too busy trying to tell the rest of us how to live our lives.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I am concerned as soon as any law maker presents a law that is unconstitutional they should be removed instantly from their elected office.
ReplyDeleteThere are so, so many of them across the nation and in the U.S. Congress that should lose their positions immediately!
DeleteThey absolutely make me want to regurgitate as well as sending each one of them nasty thoughts due to detesting what they are doing to our nation, states and cities!
People need to pay attention for whom they vote! Most especially when it comes to 'any' of them that show the "R" behind their names!
My advice: Research every one of them - obtain their voting information due to saying one thing publically and voting completely the opposite!
No wonder the Christian numbers are down across the nation when you have idiots like this woman! She's not suppose to mix church and state and force her beliefs down our throat! Haven't the Republicans/Teabaggers figured that out yet?
ReplyDeleteOops! Sorry. I finally saw the link to the actual article and found that even she admitted it would never even be debated (DUH!) and one member of the committee posted on social media he didn't believe it was Constitutional. (Another DUH!, but from a democrat.) Mea culpa.
ReplyDeleteI was already driven away from the church. Now I say emphatically no! To religion. Thank you ms ashole.You thoroughly convinced me.
ReplyDeleteInstead of criticizing this devout xtian patriotic snargwubbler for an awesome proposal intended to increase church attendance by people who don't want to attend church, shouldn't we be coming together as severely conservative real common sense conservative Amercians to condemn Obama for destroying the Constitution?
ReplyDeleteYou remember the Constitiution, don't you?
It's that publicly revered, seldom read document which specifically prohibits the government from establishing or promoting religion in our country.
nobody would want me in their church because I can't keep my mouth shut about stupid stuff and I know the Bible well that is why I am NOT Christian
ReplyDeleteSo you admit that you are a ranting idiot?
DeleteI go to church every time I am in nature on the beach in the forest
ReplyDeleteAnd just how does she expect to enforce this new law ? And what are the penalties if you don't follow her new law ??
ReplyDeleteForce me into an Xtian church and I'll embarrass the snot outta ya. I'll emulate Tri-G and shout "BULLSHIT!"
ReplyDeleteAZ is effed, they want illegals out, but guess what businesses still hire them still. They sure won't go after businesses but illegals.
DeleteNo surprise to me that religion gets brought up at the same time guns are.
ReplyDelete"I believe what's happening to our country is that there's a moral erosion of the soul of America," she said.
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She is right on that one and all the amoral people call themselves republicans.
I guess sarah will have to move to another state, if church is required in AZ.
Hahahaha! Best comment
DeleteAh yes, the direct correlation between Guns and Moses, directly from the horse's mouth. Which church does she recommend attending? It's people like this that give Arizona a bad name, her and the people who live there.
ReplyDeleteIf this Teavangelist senator from AZ believes there's a moral erosion in our country that needs to be fixed then she needs to start within her church itself. Until the church starts preaching equality and stops persecuting the gays church attendance will continue to gradually decline. It's 2015 and many people have finally wised up and realized they don't agree with the churches stance on homosexuality. They have no one to blame but themselves for the lack of attendance. Good people don't want to be associated with bad religious organizations. It's better not to go at all than to be stuck in the wrong environment!!
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