Tuesday, March 03, 2015

Hillary Clinton's use of private e-mail account. Scandal? Or no scandal?

I am sure that many of you have already seen this story from the New York Times:  

Hillary Rodham Clinton exclusively used a personal email account to conduct government business as secretary of state, State Department officials said, and may have violated federal requirements that officials’ correspondence be retained as part of the agency’s record. 

Mrs. Clinton did not have a government email address during her four-year tenure at the State Department. Her aides took no actions to have her personal emails preserved on department servers at the time, as required by the Federal Records Act. 

It was only two months ago, in response to a new State Department effort to comply with federal record-keeping practices, that Mrs. Clinton’s advisers reviewed tens of thousands of pages of her personal emails and decided which ones to turn over to the State Department. All told, 55,000 pages of emails were given to the department. Mrs. Clinton stepped down from the secretary’s post in early 2013

Her expansive use of the private account was alarming to current and former National Archives and Records Administration officials and government watchdogs, who called it a serious breach. 

“It is very difficult to conceive of a scenario — short of nuclear winter — where an agency would be justified in allowing its cabinet-level head officer to solely use a private email communications channel for the conduct of government business,” said Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle & Reath who is a former director of litigation at the National Archives and Records Administration.

This of course has resulted in a veritable feeding frenzy among the Right Wing "news" outlets, which should surprise non one. 

But is it a scandal?

Well not according to her people, or the White House, which I'm sure knew about it all along.

This from Business Insider:  

Shortly after the Times story was published, Business Insider reached out to Clinton's representatives. They put us in touch with two former State Department officials who argued that Clinton was careful to use the address in a manner that went above and beyond regulatory requirements and ensured her communications were preserved. 

The former officials, who requested anonymity to freely discuss Clinton's emails and State Department policy, echoed the notion the former secretary's personalized email address was not kept secret. They said she used it to communicate with over 100 department staffers, other officials, and lawmakers on Capitol Hill. 

Clinton emailed from a personalized domain, clintonemail.com. Records show it was registered on the day of her confirmation hearing in January 2009. Along with State Department business, the officials said, Clinton also used the email address to communicate with friends and family. 

Her address was revealed in early 2013, shortly after she left the State Department. It was published when a hacker obtained messages written by her former aide, Sidney Blumenthal. 

The president's Principal White House Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz pointed to the hack when Business Insider emailed to ask whether the White House was aware of Clinton's use of a personal address. 

"This was public years ago," Schultz wrote. 

You know it would seem that if this were a problem the White House would have insisted that Hillary use her government email.

It would also seem that somebody as intelligent and experienced with this kind of thing as Hillary is, would have just automatically done so herself, without having to be told.

Things that make you go, hmmm.

You know many years ago I used to hang sheet rock.

At every job my boss would always make some really obvious, and easy to repair mistake. You know like a seam that was not covered very well, or a screw hole that was not filled in properly.

He said that clients always wanted to find something wrong so that they could get the satisfaction of making somebody who worked for them have to repair something. It made them feel that they had shown who was boss, and received good work from employees who may have done a shoddy job without their attention to detail.

In this way he said they would not simply invent reasons to make you do something over again, just to flex their muscles, and he was usually right about that.

So maybe, just maybe, Hillary has made an obvious mistake. Purposefully left a seam uncovered if you will, to give the Right Wing something to investigate and distract them from potentially more damaging avenues of attack.

Ultimately they will demand the emails, receive them, and find nothing damaging to use against her. 

Just a theory.

96 comments:

  1. imnofred2:34 PM

    For the GOP, it will be a scandal even though Jeb Bush did the exact same thing while he was Governor.

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    1. Caroll Thompson2:56 PM

      So did Sarah Palin.

      I don't agree with anyone not using the government email accounts so all can be preserved. If you don't want your email preserved, you can use the telephone and don't email anyone.

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    2. Anonymous3:30 PM

      Check the FACTS, Hillary already released many of those emails! They are of record. The Republicans have zero on her - it was legal when she was Secretary of State and others handled the same job in the same manner and did it legally too!

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    3. Anonymous3:33 PM

      Because of course nobody is spying on your telephone communications, are they?

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    4. Anonymous5:53 PM

      Because of course nobody is spying on your telephone communications, are they?
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      We can thank Bush and Cheney with their patriot act that no one in Congress read before they passed it for that one.

      Can't wait to see how CyberSarah weighs in on this one !!

      As for Hillary, so far from what I have read, she didn't break the law, her office has turned over many of the emails and it will remain to be seen what type of business she was conducting on that acct. Was it confirming appoints or more important stuff.

      I am sure the Republicans (Issa is already on high alert) will run with this and conduct numerous investigations at the taxpayer expense, even if it proves to be nothing.

      EMAILAZI !!

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    5. Anonymous8:13 AM

      The Hillary Clinton email 'scandal' says more about us than about her ethics

      http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-more-about-us-her-ethics

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  2. Anonymous2:40 PM

    She is just plain AWESOME!

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  3. Beghazi! ( or something)

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  4. Anonymous2:48 PM

    Nothing here! Laws when she was there allowed private emails..other Secretary of States used the private email method too. Republicans will not have anything to go after her on! Zero - nada!!!

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    1. Anonymous6:25 AM

      The law was signed into effect in 2014 after she left.
      She has voluntary released emails. Move on nothing to see here, yep! Another R FAIL!

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    2. Anonymous6:29 AM

      link for above: go.shr.lc/18KcPaQ R's have nothing. Like dogs chasing their tails....

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  5. No more scandal than when any other politician does it, or has done it. The Great YapGapBalap from Alaska comes to mind first. A governor here and there, probably plenty of CIA and White House aides, etc., so on and so forth.

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    1. I can't wait for Sarah "The Hypocrite" Palin joins in condemning Hillary for the exact same thing she did as governor.

      Difference is, Sarah didn't release her e-mails. Not even after they were requested.

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  6. Anonymous3:15 PM

    My husband is a government subcontractor. If he did what HRC did, he would be in jail. She is not above the law.

    Mel68

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    1. Anonymous3:32 PM

      Please indicate what level of importance your husband is to national security. I'm guessing zero. Please also indicate what you know about "the law". I'm guessing zero.

      Now tell us what you know about trolling.

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    2. Anonymous5:11 PM

      @ 3:32 ...

      Mel68 is stating what she knows and your attacking her and calling her a 'troll'.

      When people attack without thought or understanding of what was originally written, then your argument, or lack thereof, become nothing more then malicious trolling. Therefore, you become what you accuse... a troll.

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    3. Anonymous5:25 PM

      Bullshit. Government contractors are private sector entities. They don't even have government email addresses.

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    4. Anonymous5:41 PM

      Government subcontractors do not have .gov email addresses. But, thanks awfully for playing, Mel68 (and anon@511p).

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    5. Anonymous7:10 PM

      Maybe not quite as untrue as believed. On many military bases there are government contractors and most certainly they are assigned email accounts.

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    6. Anonymous7:11 PM

      Government contractors on military bases are assigned email accounts.

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    7. Anonymous8:16 PM

      Wow, Mel68 has been coming here for years and is attacked as a troll? This place has become a cess pool.

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    8. Anonymous8:22 PM

      Government contractors in other federal agencies do indeed get a dot gov email account, to be used for ALL official business.

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    9. Anonymous8:34 PM

      she has not broken any laws mel...............so there goes your premise.

      get this through your thick skull-EVERYONE KNEW HER EMAIL ADDRESS-THE PRESIDENT, THE FBI, THE CIA, THE MILITARY BRASS, THE DOJ, THE VP, JOHN MCCAIN, LINDSAY GRAHAM, DARRYL ISSA. NO ONE HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT.

      so what exactly is the problem?

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    10. Anonymous10:03 PM

      @Mel68:

      But, Hillary Clinton didn't break the law. Try again.

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    11. Anonymous5:06 AM

      Classified info must be handled in a secure manner. There are laws on this. As I understand the situation, she broke the law. There are no small secrets, all info is valuable.

      This article in the Washington Post covers the underlying problem this creates:
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/03/hillary-clintons-private-email-address-at-state-reinforces-everything-people-dont-like-about-her/

      Democratics should take a step back and evaluate if HRC is the best canidate or we will wind up with a president with an R behind their name.

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    12. Anonymous6:31 AM

      3:15 The "Law" pertaining to electronic records was signed in 2014 go.shr.lc/18KcPaQ
      John Kerry still uses a private acct.

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  7. Anonymous3:21 PM

    Yes, I heard some discussion on Kos to that effect that the law was passed in 2014.

    I'm pretty sure this wet beer fart came right out of Shrub '41's tailpipe with our Ex-President/Ex-CIA Director calling the shots...

    When the "Child Left Behind" (Jeb) made his "Big E-Mail Transparency Dump" without any regard for the privacy of those who had e-mailed him... You had to know something was up...

    It certainly wasn't about transparency with the "Bacardi Lobbying' e-mails left out...

    And as Paul Harvey would say, "And Now You Know The Rest Of The Story."

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  8. Anonymous3:25 PM

    Well, it seems to me that the New York Times wants to see Jeb Bush in the White House (God forbid!) so the paper will go after Hillary Clinton whether it's a real or contrived issue. This one seems pretty contrived. She was an excellent secretary of state.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous3:57 PM

      Was she? Re-set button with Russia? That had to be the goofiest thing I have ever seen in my life. How is that relationship with Putin going? He probably has that button sitting on his desk for all his visitors to laugh at every time they step in his office.

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    2. Anonymous6:59 PM

      I agree Beaglemom! She did an outstanding job as Secretary of State, Senator (New York) and as First Lady! Plus, she's an outstanding Mom, Grandmother and wife!

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    3. Anonymous10:08 PM

      @3:57 PM,

      Whatever, emo. She was a better Secretary of State than Condileeza Rice, and at least she's not a war criminal.

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    4. Anonymous10:29 PM

      Really 6:59 what exactly did she accomplish, as Secretary of State? Or as the carpetbagger Senator? Besides being the wife of Bill it is hard to really pin down exactly what she is so accomplished at.

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    5. Anonymous11:02 PM

      10:29 PM What is your idol accomplished at?

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    6. Anonymous6:39 AM

      Who is my 'idol' 11:02?

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  9. Anonymous3:28 PM

    Well if you are going down the theory route... Another theory could be that Hillary made an obvious mistake to draw in the attack dogs, so that she could bow out of running. That would allow her to blame dysfunctional attack politics as her reasoning, in turn lessening the backlash from her supporters and donors for quitting.

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    1. Anonymous8:22 PM

      or she made an obvious mistake to keep the rwnjs on the emails so to not be attacking everything they can find under the rug. but the problem with both of these theories and any other nefarious theory is that one would need to go back in time to 2008 when she was asked to be secretary of state and believe that at that time she decided she would run in 2016 and would need a distraction...............REALLY?

      sometimes it is what it is............she had one email account she conducted business with and no one had a problem with it. do we really think the fbi/cia/department of justice and everyone else would let the secretary of state just fly by the seat of her pants on this? really?

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  10. Anonymous3:30 PM

    LMAO

    It was no secret to the people that counted.

    Wingnut bloggers don't count and never will, but I'd still like to see what Sarah Palin is still hiding all these years later from the days when she had to remind her paid AK flying monkeys to use her Yahoo account for their dubious business emails.

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  11. Anonymous3:32 PM

    Apple's and Oranges trying to make something out of nothing.
    Hillary is a classy person.
    Palin doesn't even have a category. Maybe as a zombie? Who the hell knows? Maybe the monkey knows?

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  12. Can't have it both ways Gryphen, you were all up in silly Sarah's ass over her private emails.

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    1. Anonymous3:53 PM

      Agreed. And she was only a half term Governor, that did quit, or get forced out, depending on what tea you drink.

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    2. Anonymous5:12 PM

      Agreed.

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    3. Anonymous10:15 PM

      @DGM,

      Gryphen may have been all up in $arah Palin's ass about her private e-mails, but the MSM wasn't. The MSM wants to use Hillary Clinton's private e-mails to manufacture a "scandal" to bring down her candidacy. $arah Palin was never a serious presidential candidate. Big fucking difference.

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    4. Anonymous10:59 PM

      You said it right, Palin Troll(DGM), and rightfully so. Sarah had a young man imprisoned because he guessed her password. Sarah was too stupid to use an undetectable password. Troll your ass back to C4P.

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    5. Anonymous12:15 AM

      $arah's emails were damning; Hilary's emails are not going to be damning. Personally, i don't believe that Hilary had time to email every tom, dick, and hairy (spelling intentional) with coded messages from several public domain email accounts the way $arah emailed incessantly from her phone.

      $arah's email sins were found out because $he was hacked, for crying out loud. Hilary bought a domain and set up an email account ~ fully intending to use it for her correspondence during her tenure as Secretary of State.

      Hilary KNEW archivers would be combing through her digital commitments to The Ether.

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    6. But, isn't there an ALASKAN law regarding the governor using official e-mail system and all correspondence being transparent and available?

      That is the big difference.

      Aside from the fact that, well, Hillary was actually doing her job. You know. Working.

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  13. "Ultimately they will demand the emails, receive them, and find nothing damaging to use against her."

    Problem is, with a private email account, documents can be deleted or edited. It is not possible to know if something damaging has been hidden.

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    1. Anonymous6:55 PM

      You guys, she has already released a huge amount of the emails! Gadfree, people go on and on spouting their mouths off not knowing a damned thing. She was operating within the law. Other Secretary of States did this same thing - i.e Colin Powell. The law changed a few years after she served in the position in the Obama Administration.

      They aren't going to get her on a damned thing in this matter. Zip! Nothing! And, I'll wager she isn't one bit worried. She gave a speech tonight and didn't bring up the matter - evidence again, she knows she operated within the law.

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    2. Anonymous8:19 PM

      6:55 and none of us think her nor any other government employees are monitored do we? come on, everyone knew her email address. john boehner, john mccain, elizabeth warren, gabby gifford, anyone who wanted to reach her knew her email address. why the fuss now?

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  14. Dinty4:23 PM

    We certainly were on Palin's ass over this same thing. We should acknowledge that even if it's not illegal, it certainly is not in the spirit of transparency in government.

    I am of the opinion that official government business should only be conducted over an official government email account. If only for the fact that the security of those accounts and servers are going to meet a minimum government specification of security (which I doubt the clintonemail.com do)

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    1. Anonymous4:53 PM

      In full agreement, Dinty. Just wait for the wasilly witch to pipe up over this when she did the same on a yahoo account as half-wit governor.

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    2. Anonymous8:17 PM

      dinty and 4:53 this is not at all like skank's emails.
      first-hilary's team initiated her email account the day she took office and it wasn't just an email addy like gmail or yahoo it was a DOMAINE SHE OWNED and emailed from the domaine. she in addition to conducting correspondance as secretary of state she also kept in touch with family and friends. skank on the other hand had TWO email accounts and conducted state business from both accounts.

      hilary has not been subpoenaed for the emails, there has not been any subterfuge on her staff's part in releasing emails. they have the messages and release them as requested.

      also, any communication between her and anyone else in government will be recorded as long as the other person has a government account.

      don't you think if this was a "here" here issa would have been all over it during his BENGHAZI tantrum?

      apparently government email systems are a bit antiquated and are not all that easy to access overseas...........much easier to log into hilaryclinton.com and send emails from her domaine.

      regarding the security risk.......uh does anyone remember any security breeches in washington over the last few years? i do.

      this is not like skank. hilary had one email.

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    3. Dinty8:57 PM

      Sorry, I think In order to speak with authority on this matter you at least need to know how to spell "domain".

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    4. Anonymous10:26 PM

      @8:57 PM,

      I see the anti-Hillary left has come out in droves.

      'Hillary E-Mail 'Scandal'? Not So Fast'

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

      Hillary Clinton broke no laws, and Colin Powell, and other previous Secretaries of State also used private e-mail addresses to conduct government business. It's not unusual.

      Also, Hillary Clinton has already handed over 55,000 pages (and counting) of archived e-mails to the republicans' Benghazi committee. There is nothing to see here. Sorry emo, facts are facts.

      Snark about bad spelling doesn't change that.

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    5. Anonymous10:50 PM

      10:26 you really are ignoring the elephant in the room though aren't you? What office is everyone expecting Colin Powell to run for? Oh thats right, he's not.

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    6. Dinty6:59 AM

      @8:17 & 10:26 My statement is clear in the first post, I didn't say it was illegal, but it's not in the spirit of transparency in government, something we should be trying to achieve.

      Secondly, to the point about security and breaches, of course there have been breaches of government servers, but by and large they are more secure in that there is a specification that has to be met that is quite secure. A private server such that was used by Ms. Clinton has to meet no specification, and we have no idea what measures were taken to ensure the security of official State Department correspondence. That in and of itself shows a recklessness that does not sit well with me.

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  15. Anonymous4:32 PM

    Bombshell New York Times Report On Hillary Clinton Email Account Disputed

    ...."So if these new regulations went into effect after she left State, then what rule did she violate, exactly? And, if this is true, why did the Times not share this rather crucial piece of information with its readers? No one could possibly argue that this fact isn’t germane to the story. It’s absolutely central to it. Why would the Times leave it out?" wrote Tomasky.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/03/hillary-clinton-emails-nyt_n_6793700.html

    Hillary Email ‘Scandal’? Not So Fast

    A NYT report says Clinton may have violated federal regulations by using private email for government business. But those rules weren’t in place when she’s alleged to have broken them.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

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  16. Anonymous4:35 PM

    How Safe Were Hillary Clinton’s Secrets?

    The Secretary of State relied on a personal email account. How safe was it from foreign spies?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/how-safe-were-hillary-clinton-s-secrets.html

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    1. Anonymous10:27 PM

      How safe were Colin Powell's secrets? Because he did the same damn thing.

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  17. Anonymous4:46 PM

    Secretary of State Colin Powell Also Used Personal Email Account

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/secretary-of-state-colin-powell-also-used-personal-email-account/

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  18. Anonymous4:53 PM

    Nobody Can Figure Out Whether Hillary Broke the Law with Personal Email Account

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/nobody-can-figure-out-whether-hillary-broke-the-law-with-personal-email-account/

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    1. Anonymous10:29 PM

      How could Hillary Clinton break a law that didn't even exist, yet?

      'Hillary Email ‘Scandal’? Not So Fast'

      "A NYT report says Clinton may have violated federal regulations by using private email for government business. But those rules weren’t in place when she’s alleged to have broken them."

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

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    2. More like, they can't find a way to prove she broke a law that wasn't in existence at the time she was Secretary of State. They're still looking for a way to make her guilty of something.

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  19. Anonymous4:59 PM

    I just find it hard to believe that our federal government did not have the requirement that employees use an official email account until 2014. As a teacher, I had an email account on for my job in the late 90s and I can't imagine using my personal email address for my job.

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    1. Anonymous10:32 PM

      Well, they didn't. It's not Hillary Clinton's fault they didn't have the requirement until 2014.

      'Hillary Email ‘Scandal’? Not So Fast'

      "A NYT report says Clinton may have violated federal regulations by using private email for government business. But those rules weren’t in place when she’s alleged to have broken them."

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

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  20. Anonymous5:17 PM

    How Hillary Clinton May Have Violated Government Rules on Emails by David Corn, MotherJones.com

    From the above link:

    "But according to the National Archives and Records Administration, there was a regulation in place governing Clinton's use of personal email for official business while she was secretary of state. And it seems she did not fully abide by this. In a statement issued today, the National Archives notes that it has "reached out to the State Department to ensure that all federal records are properly identified and managed." And the statement says:

    "'Since 2009, NARA's regulations have stated that "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system."'

    "This rule is clear: If Clinton used personal email to conduct official business—which apparently did not violate any federal rules at the time—all of those emails had to be collected and preserved within the State Department's recordkeeping system. That makes sense: The whole point of preserving official records of government business is to have this material controlled by the government, not by the individual official or employee. Yet in this case, Clinton and her aides apparently did not preserve all her emails within the system."

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    1. Anonymous10:36 PM

      Uh, her e-mails were collected, and preserved. Hillary Clinton has already handed over 55,000 pages (and counting) to the republican's Benghazi committee.

      Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast already explained all this:

      'Hillary Email ‘Scandal’? Not So Fast'

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

      David Corn can go fuck himself.

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    2. Anonymous11:53 PM

      'David Corn 'can go fuck himself'? Not So Fast'

      Reading through the snippets provided, it almost feels as if Hilary and David discussed the story's publication over cocktails at Hilary's house.

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  21. Anonymous5:30 PM

    Unlike Palin she didn’t bounce about on several email accounts. She stuck to one, and the one that obviously was approved by the administration.

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    1. Anonymous5:46 PM

      lol Nice try. But I would put money on every official having private means of communication. There is NO way with all the controversy and scandalous remarks from democrats under Obama that he and his team don't communicate privately. Not when his admin is so secretive, h/t to John stewart. He is the most secretive.

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    2. Anonymous5:52 PM

      Obviously lol.

      Little early to be making such solid predictions chief.

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    3. Anonymous7:13 PM

      This is a sticky wicket folks and until it becomes clear what the rules were when the account was made we are simply speculating.

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    4. Anonymous10:54 PM

      @5:46 PM,

      lol. Nice try, yourself. I guess you forgot about the criminal administrations of Richard Nixon, and George W. Bush. President Obama's administration is not the most secretive administration, ever. This is an emo talking point, that only got louder, after the Edward Snowden drama. In fact, the Obama administration is the most transparent administration, even though you don't want to believe it.

      Earlier news reports about this non-story have already stated that President Obama, and John Kerry exclusively use government e-mail addresses. It's already public record, stupid.

      And, what "scandalous" comments by democrats are you referring to? The most scandalous, and secretive administrations have all been republican administrations. Richard Nixon had Watergate. Ronald Reagan had the Iran-Contra scandal. George W. Bush had Iraq, torture, Scooter Libby, etc.

      In comparison to the others, President Obama's administration has been squeaky clean. You dip-shits are going to have to do better than bad e-mail etiquette (rolls eyes) to destroy Hillary Clinton's campaign to win the democratic party's nomination. Elizabeth Warren ain't happening. Deal with it.

      Michael Tomasky already explained this nothing-burger:

      'Hillary Email ‘Scandal’? Not So Fast'

      "A NYT report says Clinton may have violated federal regulations by using private email for government business. But those rules weren’t in place when she’s alleged to have broken them."

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

      John Stewart is just mad because his boyfriend, Eddie Snow-job is still stuck in Russia. John Stewart can also go fuck himself.

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    5. Anonymous11:55 PM

      @5:46 ~ 'scuse me for asking, but who is John Stewart?

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  22. Anonymous5:37 PM

    Nice to see everybody's agenda coming out so soon.

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  23. Anonymous5:45 PM

    Other SoS officials may have used private email, but it makes people hypocrites anyway. The ex Gov of Cali actually said his wife was an advisor. You KNOW the presidents and congressmen use private means of communication. So there is NO reason why Sarah Palin deserved the ridicule from year ago.

    Democrats are once again nasty

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    1. Anonymous7:25 PM

      And Todd Palin was an advisor too according to Sarah! We learned about our shadow governor (a man who obviously has an anger management issue) from the Palin email dump. He also was sending on information to his employer BP that was considered government confidential business.

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    2. Anonymous10:51 PM

      5:45 pm Nasty is Sarah Palin's lack of personal hygiene. You are a NOBODY trying to feel important by sucking up to the Palins. They don't like you, Bitch, get a life.

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    3. Anonymous11:00 PM

      @5:45 PM,

      $arah Palin deserved it, because she has a proven history of an abuse of power towards her constituents. Hillary Clinton does not. Plus, Hillary Clinton didn't break the law.

      Republicans are the nasty ones. Trying to take healthcare subsidies away from sick people, just because they hate President Obama. That is not only nasty, but it's cruel. The SCOTUS has turned into a real potential "death panel."

      Republicans are murderers. So there. Ha.

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  24. kraftysue5:47 PM

    interesting to see Bristol Palin, if really her, commenting on Media Matters website in article about Brock asking NYTimes for correction regarding the lawfulness of emails on personal accounts...bringing up Sarah's email situation while gov.

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  25. Anonymous5:50 PM

    Emails from a Governor, Congressman, appointee and President should not be open to the public. Does no one see the inherent dangers there?

    Presidents already have lifetime SS protection. Their words do not need to do be public, EVER. Why do you think Obama and others can NEVER just speak? Look at how easily it is for you all to misconstrue Palin's words, and she holds zero power over anyone. She's just a mom who goes to mom events.

    If people can lie about a powerless person like Palin who has no ability to affect a person's life, could you imagine what people could do with a President's words if they were so scripted and robotic?

    Bill C ruined lots of lives out of pride. Linda Tripp lives in anonymity while he's still funding his organization and is respected. He is still powerful despite accounts of abuse. Even given that, I feel no emails should be disclosed, ever.

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    1. Anonymous6:10 PM

      All those emails are written on the public's dime. Those people work for US. Therefore we have every right to see their emails written while they were on the job. As for LInda Tripp -- boo hoo. I think what Bill Clinton did was reprehensible but what Linda Tripp did - betraying her friend's confidence - was equally reprehensible.

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    2. Anonymous7:20 PM

      From the perspective of a researcher who has read countless correspondence of people in positions of now historical interest, it became clear when email became the norm we would lose so much. Email was not easily archivable at the beginning and a lot of communication is non-interesting and a slog to read. But the letter writers in the past imposed gravitas and profound thought in their correspondence. Thoughts became distilled and sorted as to importance. Email is mostly so much trash and historians will rue the day it became the norm.

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    3. Anonymous10:48 PM

      5:50 PM You and Palin are the LIARS. Fact! Palin affected Gabriel Giffords and several others' lives. Palin has recently affected Michael Moore's life with her bullshit(Tri-g's favorite word). Your addiction to Trolling is as bad as Track Menard's addiction to drugs and alcohol. He still 'CAIN'T GET RIGHT'.

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  26. Anonymous6:50 PM

    She has already released a majority of those emails. FACT!!!! This is a 'no win' against her by the Republicans!

    Loved her speech tonight! She didn't address the email issue because she knows it's not an issue. It was legal what she did - she did not break the law! Other Secretary of States operated in the same manner because it was LEGAL!

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  27. Anonymous10:44 PM

    You can't have it both ways Gryphen. It was wrong for Sarah Palin to do it and it is wrong for Hillary to do it.

    I'm tired of an entitled political class who thinks they can flout the law because they are privileged. It's time to give them jail time when they get caught.

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  28. Anonymous10:55 PM

    It is hillarious to see all the Hillary lovers flying off the handle trying to deflect and cover everything for the Hill. You guys better get used to it, this is nothing. When it comes to covering for Clinton scandals, this is a mere pimple.

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    1. Anonymous3:31 AM

      Tell you what, 10:55 PM, I'd be more concerned about your drugged out, whacked out Queen Heifer. Hillary can take care of herself, thank you.

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    2. Anonymous6:38 AM

      Hahahaha thats right 331 more deflection.

      Who exactly is my drugged out queen heifer, cause I didn't even know I had one? Looks like you are more than a little rattled that Hillary is already showing cracks.

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  29. Anonymous3:25 AM

    I love that photo of Hillary Clinton.
    Beaglemom

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  30. Anonymous5:45 AM

    One might say that any email Hillary sent to State Department Employees are technically still available. What about ones the sent to foreign leaders like Netanyeferatu?

    What about the ones where she solicited illegal donations to her foundation? Not using a State Department email address allowed her to blur the lines

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  31. LisaB25956:02 AM

    Sorry, this was bad government. I don't want my government officials using their private domains for government business.

    From security to record keeping, this was very bad, and trying to justify it as anything other than bad government is simply doing what right-wingers do all the time: make excuses and pretend "oh, it's not so bad." Yeah, it is bad.

    Everyone should be held to the same standard, and that's the one that holds the interests of the American people. It's about security and transparency. It was a bad idea when Sarah Palin decided to use Yahoo, and it's a bad idea for Clinton to use her *own domain*. At least Palin didn't own Yahoo's servers. IMO, this is a serious conflict of interest.

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  32. Anonymous7:52 AM

    Here is another good article:
    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/03/04/clintons-highly-unusual-private-email-system-thwarted-records-requests

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  33. Anonymous8:42 AM

    In response to the revelation that Hillary Clinton used a personal email account for official business throughout her tenure of secretary of state, in apparent violation of federal regulations, Steve Benen writes:

    Politically, ... Republicans find themselves in an awkward position. The RNC issued a statement asking, “[I]t all begs the question: what was Hillary Clinton trying to hide?”

    Putting aside the misuse of “begs the question,” the Republican track record makes this a difficult question to ask.

    Eight years ago, for example, the Bush/Cheney White House ran into trouble when its officials were found to have routinely ignored the Federal Records Act. Among others, Karl Rove, who was accused of widespread abuses, used private email accounts instead of official accounts to conduct administrative business. At the time, Republicans en masse said the controversy wasn’t important.

    Three years ago we learned that Mitt Romney oversaw the purchase of 17 state-issued hard drives, and wiped clean computers and servers that contained electronic copies of emails from his gubernatorial office. Romney later admitted the move was intended to hide official correspondence from the public and keep potentially-embarrassing information under wraps in advance of his presidential campaign. During the 2012 race, Republicans said this didn’t matter, either.

    It wasn't just that Republicans said those scandals didn't matter -- for better or worse, the public agreed.

    http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2015/03/remember-huge-mitt-romney-email-scandal.html

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  34. Hillary is a criminal and needs to be flushed out of any governmental position. She is crooked, got four Americans killed. Admiral Mullins and Mr. Pickering of the State Depts ARB that investigated Benghazi didn't speak to Hillary or review her emails. they were both bought and paid for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Sure.

      Right after George W. Bush is indicted for War Crimes.

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  35. Well, it will keep Darrell Issa busy reading every single e-mail hoping for a Benghazi Gotcha.

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