Sunday, April 26, 2015

Supreme Court poised to render decision on marriage equality that will determine the future of same sex marriage.

Courtesy of HuffPo:

The U.S. Supreme Court's arguments on Tuesday over same-sex marriage will cap more than two decades of litigation and a transformation in public attitudes. 

Based on the court's actions during the past two years, a sense of inevitability is in the air: That a majority is on the verge of declaring gay marriage legal nationwide. 

Justice Anthony Kennedy, the court's pivotal member on gay rights, has been marching in this direction with opinions dating to 1996. In his most recent gay rights decision for the court in 2013, rejecting a legal definition of marriage limited to a man and woman for purposes of federal benefits, Kennedy deplored that U.S. law for making gay marriages "unequal." 

That 5-4 decision did not address a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, but lower court judges interpreted the ruling as an endorsement of it and began invalidating state bans.

I have heard that a lot of conservative politicians really want the Supreme Court to rule in favor of same sex marriage, so that they will have an excuse not to address it during campaigns.  Essentially it will let them off the hook.

However this possibility has enraged many on the religious right:

Angered by the possibility of the U.S. Supreme Court legalizing gay marriage nationwide, busloads of protestors from religious and conservative groups gathered outside the U.S. Capitol on Saturday to inveigh against defining marriage as anything except a union between one man and one woman. 

On the weekend before the Supreme Court is scheduled to hear arguments in a case from Ohio that could extend marital rights to gay people, the protestors argued the Justices should heed the word of religions that regard the only appropriate marriages as between a man and a woman, as well as voters such as those in Ohio, who made that marital definition their state law. 

"The people of every state should remain free to uphold marriage as the union of one man and one woman," Josh Duggar, a reality television star who serves as executive director of the Family Research Council, told the crowd. "The court has the opportunity to affirm what these states and many others did in affirming marriage in their state constitutions."

Yep leave it to the Duggars to be on the wrong side of history. 

I hate to make a prediction here, but if I had to I also think the Justices are going to rule on the side of marriage equality. As well they should.

And once they do these troglodytes arguing that their religious definition for marriage stand will find themselves filed away by history along with those who argued in favor of slavery and against a woman's right to vote.

27 comments:

  1. Anonymous12:23 PM

    If the SCOTUS rules that same-sex marriage rules are up to each state, be prepared for the right-wingers to proffer the same arguments concerning slavery, voting rights and immigration.

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  2. Anonymous12:29 PM

    SCOTUS already made their decision but very few noticed. By not stepping in and stopping Federal Appeals rulings in a few states and allowing SS marriages to take place. They cannot go and put the proverbial toothpaste back in the tube now. Civil rights before religious beliefs!! They way it should be!

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  3. Anonymous12:39 PM

    The Duggars are just as stupid as the Palins.

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    1. Anonymous2:35 PM

      "Palin Stupid" is a very difficult nadir to reach but the Duggars seem to have what it takes to reach that benchmark.

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    2. Anonymous6:36 AM

      Nah, close, yes, but no cigar....the Duggars can at least form coherent sentences to express their (backwards) opinions.

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  4. FrostyAK1:01 PM

    The Supremes should outlaw Josh Dugger for overpopulation of the earth.

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    1. Anonymous2:30 PM

      Letting a "full quiver believer" have anything to do with family puts it right off the weird chart in the very beginning...

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  5. The Duggars are worse because there are more of them and the multiply like rabbits. It may be wishful thinking, but I'm willing to bet that at least one Duggar is gay. If so, it'll be interesting to see how he's treated by his extended family.

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    1. Anonymous1:12 PM

      He'll marry, have 15 kids, and get a job at Robertson's TV station and grift for a living. Meanwhile, he'll frequent gay bars and pretend he's doing 'research' or something. Heaven forbid any of these people work for a living or anything like that! Do they all pile into the same church service on Sunday morning, or are they homechurched like the Palins?

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    2. Anonymous1:28 PM

      With all the breeding the Duggars have done and will continue to do, it won't be long before at least one of them comes out as gay. The louder they protest, the more likely that is already the case.

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    3. Anonymous6:44 AM

      Anon 1:12---you are very sadly right on the money (so to speak)!!!

      I went to an uber-, uber- conservative Catholic college--parents' choice, not mine--and I do know a guy exactly like that. He came out to me in secret because I am a woman, and because he knew I wouldn't judge him, but no one else knows, apparently.

      Yeah, he's married. Yeah, he has 12 kids. Yeah, he cruises gay bars in his spare time (God knows what story he feeds his wife), and yeah, he "works" for the college, in the unbelievably taxing job of directing the classical choir. (Yes, snark.)

      The saddest thing of all, to me, is that he has convinced himself he is trying the best he can to live righteously (with built-in fallen-human sin-allowance, of course.)

      Humans' capacity for self-deception seems to be boundless....

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  6. When my husband and I met in 1976, this was something we didn't even dream out loud about much, nor did any of our friends. We made ourselves legal in Maryland in the last week of 2013, then became so retroactively at home in Virginia last October 6.

    If a cure for AIDS also comes before the end of my days, it'll be tough to convince me that any other gay generation is destined to see more changes than I have in my lifetime.

    Yet it is fascinating watching the most hardcore right-wingers stubbornly, willfully bleat as the wheels of progress poise to flatten them. It's like passengers on the sinking Titanic refusing to get into lifeboats, and instead clinging to anchors.

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    1. Anonymous4:24 PM

      This one's for you!!!

      http://aattp.org/cbs-host-slams-tony-perkins-as-leader-of-anti-gay-hate-group-says-you-dont-speak-for-christians/

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    2. Thank you for that, anon 4:24. This was rather heartening too:
      http://www.queerty.com/5-reasons-nom-will-need-much-more-than-a-prayer-at-the-march-for-marriage-2015-20150424

      While I expect the Supreme Court to do the right thing, in years to come I wonder if the watershed moment will be considered big business flexing and sending Indiana governor Mike Pence scurrying from the stage with his tail between his legs, and his approval numbers circling the bowl.

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  7. Anonymous1:51 PM

    Let's hope the court stops all these faggot marriages.

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    1. Anonymous2:19 PM

      Concentrate on wedding planning Bristol.

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    2. Anonymous4:20 PM

      Hate to see anyone suffering, but wouldn't it be a woot woot if Dakoduh follows Bruce Jenner's lead? woot woot raise the roof!!!!

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  8. Anonymous1:57 PM

    "Josh Duggar, a reality television star"

    I prefer to have Constitutional law opinions from scholars not "reality" TV egotists.

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  9. Randall2:02 PM

    Your religion doesn't get to define everyone else's reality anymore, God damn it.
    (See what I did there?)

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  10. Randall2:04 PM

    On a more serious note: gay marriage isn't going to be the end of the world, Mr. Duggar; overpopulation is.

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  11. I hope I live to see the day that atheism is not controversial in this country.

    (I hope this is not a repeat comment; I pressed the button and I did not see the comment I posted.)

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  12. Anonymous4:17 PM

    Dugger took time from thrusting his pelvis to say something? What happened, did the baby start crowning? Gosh, he's such a hot hunk of man, I can hardly stand it.

    Thanks to the busloads of coservative nut jobs for coming out en masse, gay couples and families everywhere don't give a shit about your hate speech. All families are equal, and someday will be recognized by all states. The right to pursue liberty is one thread in the constitution that can't be taken away.

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  13. I really do not like the ideas of Gay Marriage, so it must be stopped. We all need to make the world a better place and not other wise

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    1. Maple7:36 PM

      Daayur: Please think carefully about what you've just written. The vast majority of those of us who read here do not like your attitude towards gay marriage, so.....you must be stopped.
      Actually, let me change that a bit: Please think before you write. Your bigotry is showing, and bigotry of any sort doesn't belong here, or indeed, anywhere.

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    2. Anonymous7:45 PM

      Otherwise is one word, you otherdummy.

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  14. Anonymous6:01 AM

    I'm enjoying reading comments on this here and other places.

    Some have suggested the SCOTUS may uphold a state's right not to marry same-sex couples but will uphold the validity of marriages done in other states. To which people then say "Well, then gay couples will have to get married in other states".

    To which I would reply, if so, just see how fast some of the states that currently ban gay marriages change their tune and allow them - after being hounded by the florists, cake bakers and decorators, anyone who has a hall to rent, weddings bands, etc. complaining they are losing their chunk of the Wedding Dollars.

    Weddings are typically Big Buck events. If the state does not want to collect the tax revenue from all that business, then sure, let it go to another state, I say.

    MarvinM

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  15. Considering how many kids and grandkids (present and future) the Duggars are foisting on to this planet, statistically there is already an LGBT amongst them.

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