I will provide a brief synopsis of each issue. To read more just go to In Touch Magazine:
1) The “licensed” counseling details. Jim Bob and Michelle and two of their daughters have stated the girls went through “licensed” counseling, but have not addressed why Jim Bob and Michelle apparently waited FOUR years before getting them into counseling after they had been victims of Josh. They have also refused to discuss that the counseling seems to have occurred only after the Department of Human Services launched an investigation into the family, following the police probe, which ended due to the statute of limitations having expired. Jim Bob and Michelle apparently did NOT get their daughters counseling from at least March 2002 when, according to the police reports, Josh confessed he had committed “4 to 5” separate acts of molestation, through December 2006 when Springdale police turned the case over to DHS. During that time period Josh committed at least SEVEN acts of molestation, according to police reports.
Any mental health expert will tell you that getting counseling as early as possible after a traumatic incident is incredibly important, and if Josh had received adequate counseling from the get go it would have spared his sisters from abuse.
Simply put these parents failed to do the most fundamental thing expected of parents. To protect their children from harm.
2) Downplaying the molestations as “subtle and mild.” Echoing Jim Bob and Michelle’s characterization of Josh’s actions as “mild touching,” Jessa said: “None of the victims were aware of what happened until Joshua confessed. The extent of it was mild – inappropriate touching on fully clothed victims, most of it while [the] girls were sleeping.” She also added, “In the situations where it happened and the girls were awake they weren’t aware of what was happening. It was very subtle.” But two police reports strongly contradict these assertions.
In Touch goes on to point out that Josh's predatory behaviors increased and that he became more bold in response to ineffective attempts by his parents to curb his behavior.
The Duggars seemed to have allowed themselves to be convinced by Josh's contrition act when all he was doing was lulling them into a false sense of security while he ratcheted up the abuse.
I have seen this myself numerous times in sexual predators.
They can come across almost sickening sweet to authority figures, while carefully grooming the victims into allowing them more and more access to their bodies, and in the end even convincing their prey that it was all their fault.
3) The escalation of Josh’s molestations is troubling to mental health experts and not to be dismissed in the manner Jessa characterized it as, “a young boy in puberty and a little too curious about girls.” Dr. Paula Bruce, a California clinical psychologist, told In Touch about the Duggars: “None of them acknowledged that this is predatory behavior.
Like I said.
4) Safeguards. Jim Bob and Michelle have said (and their two daughters echoed) that after they became aware of Josh’s abuse they put “safeguards” in their home. But the Springdale police report reveals that Jim Bob and Michelle first became aware of 4 to 5 separate acts of sexual abuse by Josh in March 2002 and there were more acts of sexual molestation by Josh in July 2002 and March 2003. The parents have not addressed the fact that their “safeguards” repeatedly failed and allowed at least SEVEN instances of sexual molestation during the course of a year.
Those are not safeguards, those were simply placebos to help the parents sleep better at night.
5) Jim Bob, Michelle, Jessa and Jill all made a point to say that Josh “paid for his own counseling.” But Jim Bob and Michelle did not admit – and were not questioned – about why Josh apparently did not get counseling from a mental health professional for at least FIVE years after his first four acts of molestation, and only after the Department of Human Services opened an investigation into his activities.
I think it is pretty clear that the Duggars did not want any word about Josh's "problem" getting out into the public, since dear old dad was still focusing on a potential political career. So the only real therapy they would have received was the therapy that they were pressured by the state to receive.
6) The family has continued to give the impression of cooperation with authorities, but fail to offer a detailed explanation of why they did not produce Josh for a police-requested interview in 2008. Josh, 18-years-old at the time of the Springdale police interview, hired a lawyer and refused to be questioned.
Now that certainly does not sound like cooperation does it?
7) The family strongly implied that details from the DHS investigation were leaked. Jessa said of talking to DHS: “We did you know, we told them, we were honest. We said here’s what happened and we told them the complete story and my parents said, ‘This isn’t something people are going to blab around, you can tell them, you can trust them. Tell them your story. It’s a safe place to talk.’ Unfortunately not.” The reality is that no details from the DHS investigation or what the victims told DHS investigators have leaked or been reported. Cooperation with DHS is mandatory.
This is yet another attempt to play the victim. And WHY do the Duggars all seem to have the same story about leaked documents, and betrayal by public officials?
8) Public records spin. Public records obtained by In Touch of a plane used by the Duggars show that it flew to the location of their crisis public relations specialist prior to giving these interviews in an attempt to save their TLC show. A source confirms to In Touch that the Duggars met with their own PR team to create a strategy for the interviews.
Ahh, well that explains it. They were all coached by a PR team so that they would all be on the same page, and nobody would contradict the parent's version of events.
9) The family has continued to float the possibility that they will take some legal action against the city for releasing the records. But a deeper analysis of the situation reveals top experts say they have no basis for such action.
But damn, do I WISH they would try to sue.
10) The Duggars have continued to mischaracterize the FOIA-released police reports as juvenile records and say there were “illegally released.” Jessa told Fox: “Freedom of Information Act is not, you can’t FOIA juvenile cases, everybody knows that.” Her characterization of what was released via FOIA is wrong.
11) The order to destroy the police record. The order to destroy the police report was entered by Judge Stacy Zimmerman. Neither Fox nor the Duggars have acknowledged that the judge heard only an emergency argument from one side (via a lawyer hired by the Duggars) and no media outlet or other entity challenged the ruling, which many legal experts believe was overly broad and a wrong interpretation of the law. Even Springdale’s police spokesman noted the highly unusual nature of the judge’s decision.
So the question on this last one is what compelled the judge to have these records destroyed?
After all it seems the only people who would want these kept from public scrutiny would be the Duggar family itself, so who would pressure this judge on their behalf?
And does his name rhyme with Fuckabee?
Yep, and there is more to this than just the Duggars. How many other families have kids that pulled this shit and gotten away with it in Arkansas? Many I would bet given the Duggars' own words.
ReplyDeleteLike Heath/Palin I doubt the Duggars are that different from cults like the Children of God.
DeleteThis Christian missionary group is notorious for their practices of free sex, prostitution, homosexuality, adult-child sex and incest.
http://www.samajemian.com/
"There is this need that I have,"
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3797272
Now 'cleaned up' version Family International
Ask Justin "rehome" Harris. Also a rebiblican talibangelical from Arkansas.
DeleteBilly Graham's grandson (I forget his name) has stated that there is more molestation/rape/ etc. in the evangelical world than the Catholic world.
DeleteHere is a link to Billy Graham's grandson (Boz Tchividjian)'s efforts to clean up sexual molestation within the evangelical community – and need I say, the teavangelicals are not reacting kindly to Boz's clean-up efforts. But good for him: he is to be greatly commended. Meanwhile, I am now taking a jaundiced look toward some American-led Christian mission efforts for small children in other countries. The concept is great, but what if these trips (just like Dennis Hastert's escorting of his wrestling team to the Bahamas) are taken advantage by the wrong people?
Deletehttp://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/07/boz_tchividjian_is_on_a_mission_billy_graham_s_grandson_wants_to_root_out.html
The Duggars did not safeguard their daughters from molestation. The Duggars did not safeguard the babysitter from molestation. AND, they didn't even bother to lie about that.
ReplyDeleteI doubt that the Duggars nor their peers will ever believe the behaviors were more than devil temptation or some religion only expectation. For a family that forbids a kiss before marriage they are trying to sell a load of crap about their teen son groping his sisters and much younger siblings as curiosity about girls.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it interesting that they forbid a kiss before marriage but publicly dry humping between the parents in front of a daughter and her date AND whoever was video taping it, is all okay. Deviant trash.
DeleteIt would not surprise me if ol' Jimmy Bob is also a diddler.
DeleteIf a 15-year-old neighbor boy had kissed 15-year-old Jessa on the cheek, there would have been Hell to pay. But the Duggars let their child molester son basically have free access to their daughters like they were a buffet.
DeleteYes, excellent points toward how extreme the double-standard is in this family: no hand-holding of any girl before a formal engagement announcement, and no kissing of any girl before marriage. Also, physical restraining of Josh when Jim Bob caught him masturbating (Jim Bob tied both of Josh's hands behind his back for an entire day, then demanded Josh complete all his daily chores with this handicap). This combination almost invites normal sexual urges to be expressed in abnormal ways. Am seriously wondering now about just exactly who Jim Bob IS when the curtains are closed?
Delete11 things the Duggar family is still hiding.
ReplyDeleteIt is more like 11 x 10 or more.
1000X
DeleteJUST like the paylins, they threaten to sue but NEVER actually do. They are WELL aware that the discovery would be TERRIBLY damaging to them. Sue us? Please proceed!
ReplyDeleteAre the Paylins next? Drip. drip, drips.
Deletecould be!
DeleteWhat happened to Frank Flashback?
DeleteYou bet there's more coming out, In Touch has a ton of stuf they are sitting one. This is going ot drip out over time and keep these monsters in the spotlight for quite some time. Let's hope the info ropes in some big name pols like Huckabee and some corrupt judges (like the one who ordered the police report to be destroyed.)
ReplyDeleteWednesday!
DeleteInTouch will probably be promoting this weeks scoop of duggar tomorrow.
And Jim Bob Duggar will continue to push back, digging himself in deeper and deeper (and continue to feed his story line to his wife and daughters so they can pass it on like robots).
DeleteIt's very clear the entire family has a united front on every single point. Public relations firm, indeed. Am fully expecting either Jim Bob and/or Josh to both enter GOP politics in Arkansas. Would be surprised if they did not choose this option. Think of this: once Jim Bob's church discovered what happened, Jim Bob decided that he would just turn his house into his own church – and then write off part of that as a tax deduction, thus profiting on his refusal to submit to his own church authority. You just can't make this stuff up. It's like a bad Elmer Gantry movie.
Deletehttp://www.newsweek.com/huckabees-connections-duggars-run-deep-340667
ReplyDeleteIt turns out the politician's ties to the Duggars may run deeper than just a show of support. According to CNN Money’s Brian Stelter, the Duggar family’s public image crisis is being managed by Chad Gallagher, Huckabee’s longtime political adviser. Gallagher is the founder and principal of Legacy Consulting in Arkansas, and also oversees Huckabee’s political action committee, HUCKPAC, which made the news earlier this year for awarding nearly $400,000 to Huckabee’s own family.
The fundies in the comments section are hysterical, defending and deflecting.
ReplyDeleteI think I read somewhere one of the girls said it was no big deal, it happened all the time in Christian families. And I'm thinking, no, it happens all the time in that fundamentalist religious cult created by that sexual molester. And they are the ones Josh was sent to for "counseling".
ReplyDeleteSorry, girls, but the everyone is doing it defense is so elementary school.
Now that Jessa and Jill are out I think we can finally bid the Duggars a fond farewill. I don't care how fundamentalist TLC is. There is no way they are going to find any sponsors to advertise on any show connected to the Duggar family EVER.
They are already pushing the Willis Family. Hopefully they are perverts too.
I see Duck Dy-nasty is still on the air. They're pumping up promos for that too.
They really need to change their network. There is absolutely no Learning going on there.
Could someone please offer up just one example of how Jesus or the Apostle Paul ever said one was warranted a free pass – on anything – by using the 'everyone is doing it' excuse??????? These people turn the gospel on its head, then wonder why people don't take their religion seriously.
Delete# 8 is almost as revolting as the sexual assaults themselves.
ReplyDeleteAll they care about is saving their TV show. THATS ALL THEY CARE ABOUT. In order to do that, they coached their abused daughters to say the sexual assaults they suffered were nothing more than "a boy being too curious".
That makes me sick! They don't care what kind of message that sends. They don't care that they've made it a little bit harder for a victim of sexual abuse to come forward. They don't care that some adult is going to be less likely to treat a child's sexual abuse seriously because they believe in the almighty Duggars.
I swear to God, if TLC brings back any of the Duggars in any way, shape or form to television, I am going to make one hell of a loud noise and boycott anything associated with that network...I don't care if they're airing the freaking Super Bowl.
I'm already pissed that they're taking this long to decide what to do.
Anonymous 10:27 is right on the mark. Now, it is not only the Duggar girls who will never be believed, but there will be a huge ripple effect into the evangelical community, which holds this family on a pedestal as though they were more than saints. Now, no evangelical girl/woman is safe from sexual assault. Combine that with Billy Graham's grandson Boz Tchividjian saying, from first hand observation, that sexual molestation and rape in the evangelical community far exceeds that which occurs in the Catholic community, and you have a human keg of dynamite ready to go off – and yet be totally ignored and untreated. Horrible, just horrible to think of how many lives, other than the Duggar girls, who will be ruined/destroyed by this. All for Jim Bob's and Michelle's pocket-books. Barf, just barf. If this isn't a good reason for permanently boycotting TLC, I don't know what is.
DeleteIt's all bullshit, all of it..Another scumbag family living the grift and making money using hate and God...I do not believe a single syllable coming from these reality show con-artists mouthes
ReplyDeleteIf you weren't such an asshole the Palins would let you come over and play with Penelope.
ReplyDeleteThey might even let you kiss her ass.
yup
Are Dominionists not allowed to cut the hair of their females?
ReplyDeleteFrom Michelle's spaniel hair to these four beauties, it seems none of them has ever seen a pair of scissors. Is this in the Bible, somewhere I missed it?
I know, right?
DeleteAnd here I thought Christ's message was: "Love!"
Turns out it was really, "Sport long sausage curls if female!"
But then, what else do Duggar females have to do with their spare time, as they have no education and are uninterested in the public good.
It looked to me they were all trying to be mommaclones. That gypsy shag momma sports is 30-40 years out of date. I wore my hair like that in college.
DeleteTheir menfolk sure aren't following the bible. They aren't sporting beards and are shaving the corners or their heads so you know they are grazing the bible for stuff they agree with. Mostly to control and dominate the womenfolk.
Wonder if they wear cotton polyester and eat shrimp?
Some of this might be how ol Grandpa Gothard liked his wimmenfolks to be.
DeleteKeeping sweet and all.
Mmmm. Bacon for breakfast. Pork and beans for lunch. BLTs. Yum.
DeleteAnonymous 12:01 p.m. you are right about Gothard...he has stated that women should have long curly hair ! Why? crazy ass people.
DeleteMy fundy brother says "the bible" teaches that men shave and wear their hair short, and women never cut their hair or wear pants. His wife and daughters have hair to their knees, but most of his has fallen out.
DeleteA few years back, I was driving across the country with my husband and we stopped at some roadside attraction. I noticed a large group near us at an overlook. There was a middle aged man and woman and a flock of children (maybe 8 or 9). The mother and all the daughters (teenage and younger) were dressed in exactly the same old-fashioned farm long dresses with long sleeves. The dresses were all cut exactly the same, although the patterns varied. They all had the same hair, long and curly with bangs.
DeleteThe father and sons all had short hair cuts, but were wearing "normal" clothes, golf shirt or short-sleeve button up shirts and bermuda shorts, blue or khaki or whatever.
It was really hot out and I wondered how that mother and those daughters thought it was ok for them to be uniformed and covered from neck to shoes in old-fashioned clothing while the menfolk were cool and comfortable.
I wonder if I actually saw the Duggars or if it was some unrelated quiver cult.
Anon 4:28. Your fundie brother is ignorant and obviously hasn't read the bible. The Hasidic jews don't shave their bears or cut the corners of their heads (hence the long curls from their temples) because that's what it literally say in the bible. Their women cover their heads or wear wigs for modesty.
DeleteI don't believe pants, slacks, bloomers or whatever are mentioned in the bible. I don't think it mentions underwear either so does Fundie Bro and his family go commando under their clothes?
I'll bet they wear cotton polyester too. Something forbidden in the bible. Clothing of mixed threads.
Anan 5:24. It wasn't the Duggars. They don't wear shorts.
DeleteYes, to be perfectly Biblical, Michelle and the girls would have their heads and hair covered. But that would never sell on reality TV. And women who look like that can't be judged and victimized for their own rapes the way attractively coiffed women can. See how that works?
DeleteIt takes one hell of a man to shave a bear!
DeleteI hope this info gets passed around and seen by a lot of people. Over the weekend Fox used so much time re-airing the daughters' interview and creating sympathy. And they continued pushing lies (with Megyn Kelly's angry tone making viewers believe her) about such as things as whether it was authorized to release the redacted documents.
ReplyDeleteThe age of open information, video preserved on the internet, and social media are really, when combined, quite inconvenient for the Duggars. The public in 2015 is. not. buying. their story. In 2000 they would have been able to sell this. Not now.
DeleteO/T -- Payme's Facebook page notes the addition of the pig to the household, but not where they got it or who gave it to them.
ReplyDeleteI do know they are aware of how to care for pigs, big or little.
Meet Piper's newest - a micro mini pig she's named Penelope.
DeleteYup. - Sarah & Piper Palin
https://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin/photos/a.10150723283643588.424640.24718773587/10153392880878588/?type=1&theater
Did Sarah, Bristol, Willow and family fall for another hoax?
Micro-pigs, You can't deny the "cuteness" of such pets, but the logic of keeping them as pets is hard to follow. Like humans, pigs are incredibly sensitive and intelligent – in fact they are the 4th most intelligent animal in the world.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterwedderburn/100016254/micro-pigs-are-maxi-disaster/
Many serial killers abuse animals when they are young. I shudder to think of what the Palins are showing and teaching young Piper with this current fad, micro-pig.
not "know" -- "hope" -- in 10:58 above.
DeleteThe Palins have clearly made use of the animal kingdom when doing their social media campaigns
Deleteand selling their cheap commercial products.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/sarahhunting.jpg
Sarah Palin usually displays her lack of intellect and care for critters. When she was using wild boars to attempt to convince a gullible public that she is a huntress she proved she had no clue about the boars. Like the poor little piglets, wild boars are also sensitive and intelligent. The 'farms' or hunting grounds like Ted Nugent owns can be rather grotesque. Yet that is where Sarah staged one of her skits to sell herself as outdoor woman. It was not as if she was actually hunting in the wild.
Yes, the wild ones are invasive and do much damage. That is not the case where Sarah visited Ted Nugent for her photo shoot.
What is horrific is what Sarah may be teaching young people like Piper. Some children do rebel from parents like Sarah and become vegetarians. Others may end up more like Sarah or even worse. It remains to be seen how this pet micro pig will be for Piper.
Adorable here:
http://websta.me/p/1000813835797530052_825925128
Pipe just loves her new pig
http://websta.me/p/1000786020553972230_1395504853
Happy 51st to my mama!!!!
http://websta.me/p/918198575833012515_1395504853
Don’t Worry, Mike Huckabee Is Still Proudly Endorsed by the Duggars
ReplyDeleteWere you worried that Huckabee came to his senses about pallin’ around with people who won’t even protect their own daughters from being molested in their own home and separated himself from the scandal-plagued family? Well, rest assured, Huckabee and the Duggars are still totally cool, and he made the media rounds to reiterate his support for them and their support for him. So in case you were wondering, Huckabee is still happily associated with the scandal-plagued Duggar family.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/dont-worry-mike-huckabee-is-still-proudly-endorsed-by-the-duggars/
Why is Sarah hiding Todd? Or is Todd hiding Todd?
Team Palin/Meyer:
Buy your Exotix Russian Calendar over there!
https://thespeechatimeforchoosing.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/palin-russia.jpg
Proof positive he isn't really running for President, just grifting for money under cover of a fake campaign.
DeleteThe man gives me the creepies, almost as repulsive as Ted Cruz. He has been a con, and a pretty slick and smooth one at that, from the beginning. That good old boy charm has worked for him. Also, too, his family has issues with animals. Coincidence?
DeleteRe your comment #8 on PR spin.
ReplyDeleteI though it was kind of odd that in each interview, one of them was holding a couple of pages of what appeared to be short-statement 'talking points'. And in each, the more submissive personality would be checking in with the other, by eye, to be sure they were saying the 'right' thing.
They're watching for the plumbing supply pipe!
DeleteOwww! nOOOO!!!!!
Michelle had a stack of papers, too, during her interview. Jim Bob has made sure his minions are on point.
DeleteDid you also notice that the youngest Duggar girls (several of them) can not make eye contact? What is with that? I read recently that two of them are mutes. How does a mute report sexual molestation? And why do all of the youngest Duggar girls look so terribly forlorn and unhappy, while the boys all look confident and happy? The contrast in body language was quite disturbing to me.
Deletetouching someone while they sleep is a very different kind of sexual predator than when someone is awake. i had experience with such a person (both of us were adults) and it was beyond creepy - if i woke up he pretended he wasn't doing anything. FREAK
ReplyDeleteWell we all knew it. Sarah was so outrageous with her rant she got what she wanted, she i s supposed to be on Hannity tonight.
ReplyDeleteAs we type she if flying around getting her belmonts fluffed, looking for a low cut top and putting on the spackle makeup. "Todd! it worked! get that camera ready i am making a comeback."
Pay attention Sarah.
DeleteFox might be giving you a rope to see what you do with it.
touched while sleeping and completely clothed - does that mean the girls slept in their clothes? Weird.
ReplyDeleteNightgowns I'm sure. Probably the old fashioned little house on the prairie kind.
DeleteDuggar dates of birth:
ReplyDeleteJosh-3.3.88Jana and John-David- 1.12.90 Jill- 5.17.91 Jessa- 11.4.92 Jinger- 12.21.93 Joseph- 1.20.95 Josiah- 8.28.96 Joy-Anna- 10.28.97
Jedidiah and Jeremiah- 12.30.98
Jason- 4.21.99
James- 7.7.01 Justin- 11.15.02 Jackson- 5.23.04 Johannah- 10.8.05 Jennifer- 8.2.07 Jordyn-Grace- 12.18.08 Josie Brooklyn - 12 - 10 - 2009
"Jedidiah and Jeremiah- 12.30.98
DeleteJason- 4.21.99"
Typo?
Thank you for typing the dates of their births. In the past I was an amateur genealogist and it wasn't unusual to find large families but almost without fail and whether large or small, the children were spaced two years apart.
There was respect for the health of the mother and for the health of the children. Not so with the Duggars.
Everything the Duggars have said and done since Josh Duggar admitted to sexually abusing young girls has the sole purpose of trying to mitigate the damage that's been done to their fake reputation. I think that although many Fox viewers are defending them, the majority of us won't. This is where the real problem lies with them trying to reanimate their image and get TLC to continue airing their show. What the the Duggars and the Foxbots are ignoring is that there are more of us than there are of them. I'll keep signing petitions to keep these fake Christians off of TV----as many as I have to. I always suspected that they were too "good" to be true, and my instincts were correct. I've never heard such nonsense in my life as their ideas that a couple who is dating can't hold hands or share a light kiss while Jim Bob and Michelle are popping out babies nearly every year. I think the best way to get kids to experiment with sex is to make sex a thing that is not to be discussed. When I was teaching high school in a small town in GA, I saw many girls whose parents refused to discuss sex with them become pregnant. Some of these girls were forced to get married before graduating from high school, and they were divorced a few years later. Ignoring the fact that sex is a basic human drive and declaring that it will not be discussed because of one's religious beliefs is a terrible way to raise a kid.
ReplyDeleteForget TLC. You need to put pressure on the sponsors not to advertise on their show. Tell them if they do, you will shun their products. Money talks.
DeleteExcellent point.
DeleteI never watched the show. Mark Morford warned me away from them all the way back in 2005, before there even was a show
Deletehttp://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/morford/article/God-Does-Not-Want-16-Kids-Arkansas-mom-gives-2601581.php
Then Matt Cale whacked them in his inimitable style in '09
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/9488/the-duggars-18-and-counting-no-more/
Their nasty anti-gay attitude would certainly keep me away, but even without it, what do they do? With no calling card of talent, they're famous only for how many kids the mother pops out. Who gives a shit?
But doncha see?
ReplyDeleteIt's all OK cause Josh told Jesus that he's really really sorry and Jim-Bob and his wife ClownCar have prayed really really hard...
so it's fine, doncha see?
Now if they were atheists!
We-heh-heh-heh-helllll that would be a different story altogether. THEN we'd have a CRIME, by God.
Spot on, Randall.
DeleteIt's ALL God's plan!
DeleteDoes anyone believe that Josh told his parents? Does anyone believe that it was just "some touching" that occurred? These little girls were never given a physical exam (at least non reported).
ReplyDeleteMommy and Daddy both getting their rocks off and they only reported what Josh was "doing" because the "baby sitter told someone?" And they thought their secret would never see the light of day...
I wonder what is still going on in that house?
Those Duggar girls are just cheap little liars. No decent man would want to marry them. Raised up to be household help and brood mares and lie when ordered to.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. No respectable, honest man would want to involve himself with this family. They're just trash.
The Duggar boys are no prize either.
DeleteBut Josh confessed, has a soft heart, and if God can forgive him, so should everyone else. He's the victim because he's a contrite Christian, and besides... they were asleep and didn't know a thing till it came out! He softly touched her over he clothes, ran his hands down their side and pulled up the pj tops to expose their perky breasts from under their training bras. She felt his breath on her neck.... and shifted while sleeping...... as he gently fondled her, he touched his privates till they begged for release.....
ReplyDeleteScrew These poor examples of brainwashed buffoons. Two vultures know more about parenting than these two sex addicted enablers. Go sell stupid somewhere else. Bad parents, bad liars, and exploiting religion to excuse an opportunistic serial molester. I hope the media keeps digging, cause they need to have their kids removed from them, THEY BOTH need Bona Fide Professional help from accredited certified secular Psychiatrist.
For the first time I see the adage "Steuping" your brains out is a REAL CONDITION. Leave God out of it, anyone else is a criminal if god forbid they use the same bathroom as heterosexual folks. Newsflash, sniff your own bowls, it's all shit and it stinks.
OMG A transsexual!!! in a bathroom??????? All the time they knew all that?
Pat Benetar was right, "Hell is for Children"
What's with all the Loretta Lynn hair?
ReplyDeleteI wondered the same thing. Is there a rule in "Duggarland" requiring that young women all have exactly the same hairstyle?
DeleteBeaglemom
Why would it matter to what the father does for a living? No one in the family seems unhealthy. They all look happy and living lives they want to live.
ReplyDeleteThe media needs to admit its wrongness in how its handling this and the fact that there IS a double standard.
Defending a child molester and his enablers? How brave of you!
DeleteIf you blame the media for this you must organize a letter campaign to Fox Media. It is the only way you can save Josh and all his victims. There may be many more, you know how those things go. Also get ready for shocking revelations and breaking news about Jimmie Bob Duggar. Michelle, also, too.
DeleteI believe this Duggar shitshow is just getting started.
DeleteThe chances that all the statutes of limitations have run out for all the perverts and chimos in their circle is ZERO. Someone is about to get cuffed and stuffed.
Has anyone talked to Lena's sister? (or whomever that was)
ReplyDeleteANY parent who reads what Lena wrote would be aghast. That is not normal behavior. Thinking might be, but normal kids do not act like that. And a 5 yr old understands that. I work with them. I know this
Go away with your Palin ass kissing and unsubstantiated Facebook reports, Alicia. You are the lowest on the totem pole of stupidity. BTW, when did you find a job? You are a Liar.
DeleteNew article up at Salon. The title says it all.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/a_former_homeschooler_on_the_duggar_familys_horrifying_fundamentalist_education_it%E2%80%99s_literal_rape_culture/
Former homeschooler on the Duggar family’s horrifying fundamentalist “education”: “It’s literal rape culture”
The founder of Homeschoolers Anonymous tells Salon about being indoctrinated with Bill Gothard's misogynist lessons