Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Tuesday, July 21, 2015
It looks like Richard Dawkins is trolling religious people again.
Republican House and Senate Introduce Bills Allowing Companies To Fire Single, Pregnant Women
In its unending desire to mollify its intolerant, bigoted base, the GOP appears ready and willing to throw single women under the bus, along with the same-sex couples whom we already know they hate.
In wake of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in favor of same-sex marriage, Republicans are pushing legislation that aims to protect Americans who oppose these unions on religious grounds. But critics say the language is so broad, the bill creates a license to discriminate that would let employers fire women for getting pregnant outside of wedlock....
Frankly, single pregnant women are a huge drain, financially and productivity-wise, on companies. Especially small companies where the drain isn't diluted by a larger workforce. Seen it many times.
Frankly, 8:59, you are full of crap! As a formerly single mother, I was never a drain on my company's productivity. If you've "seen it many times", it appears that you have held numerous jobs over time, thus showing a lack of commitment to one company. Job jump much? That is a financial and productivity-wise to companies, especially small companies.
I don't like fundamentalist religions of any stripe, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or any other. I believe firmly in the separation of Church and State.
But I believe in respecting the rights of people to worship and believe as they see fit, just as I am grateful for their acceptance of my right not to do so.
Just as I see no reason for religions to proselytize, I see no reason for atheists to do so either. I think it's disrespectful to question the faith that people hold, just as it's disrespectful to question my lack of it.
I don't believe in the hypocrisy of saying preaching religion is wrong but preaching atheism isn't. They're both pointless and they both preach to their own choirs.
At least with Dawkins one gets a reasonable explanation for why God doesn't exist. I have yet to read anything explaining how God came into existence, how he created all that exists, why, if he knows the future, he allows bad things to happen, and what heaven will be like.
Well that is just too bad isn't it Gryph? Boo hoo for you that people are allowed to believe what they want in this free country. Kind of like you are allowed to have your beliefs, no matter how obnoxious or wacko they may be.
People are free to believe what they want. However, they do not have the right to attempt to force me to believe as they do. One should keep one's religion to themself.
And that's why we have the separation of church and state. And that's why if you believe in the importance of that you vote against people who seek to subvert it. That's why where I live we have a group working hard to stop all religious charter schools, they have no business receiving one cent of taxpayer funding.
I have no problem with religious schools receiving funding. Children are required to go to school, if parents are paying into the required system, they should be able to recoup that money if they are also paying to send their kid to a private school for a better education.... which is why people send their kids to private schools, since the public schools and school systems are more often than not a joke- and totally wasteful.
The public school system is something we all support with out tax dollars. I don't mind paying taxes, but having religion taught in public schools is taxation without representation IF they don't teach ALL religions, agnosticism, atheism, Judaism, Wicca, etc. etc. If I choose to supplement my child's education with religion, then I have the right to send them to private schools or separate religious studies in conjunction with public schools, and pay for the privilege, but don't take other's tax dollars to support your freedom to believe. Somehow, along the way, the separation of church and state in the constitution fell by the wayside. Why are people who don't have kids and people past the age of reproduction still supporting public schools? Because they were available for them, and a well funded public school is what's teaching the next generation, and society as a whole reaps the rewards.
Hey Winecooler, I know you aren't very bright but here is a light bulb moment for you.
Most people send their kids to private schools for a good education and the tighter discipline, and they really don't give a rats ass about the religion. Many of these people are middle class and make the responsible decision to keep their older cars cars longer and not take fancy vacations in order to afford a better education and a better future for their kids.... These are the kind of kids and families who understand responsibility and planning and the meaning of education. Being a taxpayer without children, I am much happier my tax money go to these future good citizens, as opposed to what comes out of most poorly run and wasteful public systems.
I appreciate Richard Dawkins and the other "professional atheists" so much. Growing up, I was forced to attend church every week, where I had to listen to bizarre bible stories and threats of eternal damnation. After I was old enough to be in charge of my own life, I avoided religion as much as I could, but still, it's so hard to get away from it. People are always trying to force you to pray with them, talk about your personal relationship with Jesus, sing religious songs, etc. I remember sitting at my public school graduation ceremony listening to a preacher speak to us all and thinking, "isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state?" Without Dawkins and the others, I would never have had the courage to say "No thanks, I'm not religious at all, and I don't want to be preached at by you". Saying that both the religious prosthelytizers and the "professional atheists" are both sides of the same coin pretty much denies thousands of years of religious persecution of non-believers. I know that the quality of my own life has been greatly improved because of the likes of Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, and others.
I agree with Gryph, 11:49 and 12:29. People are free to blaze their own spiritual path, keep it to themselves or discuss it among a community of like-minded people (Sunday service). The big drawback to some religions is obviously that they try to push their theology on to other people or the state.
What physics mom said @ 2:55. Dawkin's tee shirt slogan is right. We need a well funded public education system. If someone chooses to send their kids to religious schools, then it's their choice, no one's stopping them. But keep yours and everyone else's tax dollars going to support public school, Think of it as an investment in the next generation and we all reap the benefits. Another thing that needs addressing is Churches paying their fair share of taxes, sales, property, building, etc etc. They rely on our tax dollars to maintain infrastructure, snow removal, etc. so they can get people in their pews and collect tax free donations. .
10:38p If the public school system can be improved everyone would benefit. Of course, if the system stays fucked the way many GOPers would prefer we're in the toilet as a nation. The age of idiocracy will be here to stay.
I bet he doesn't believe in immaculate conception either.
ReplyDeleteSorry, Cletus
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DeleteHe can go fuck himself.
ReplyDeleteLol. You poor ignorant thing.
DeleteSpoken like a true Christian, there 3:04.... Your mother must be so proud.
DeleteOf course she is. She's the one who told him/her what to say in the first place.
DeleteRepublican House and Senate Introduce Bills Allowing Companies To Fire Single, Pregnant Women
ReplyDeleteIn its unending desire to mollify its intolerant, bigoted base, the GOP appears ready and willing to throw single women under the bus, along with the same-sex couples whom we already know they hate.
In wake of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in favor of same-sex marriage, Republicans are pushing legislation that aims to protect Americans who oppose these unions on religious grounds. But critics say the language is so broad, the bill creates a license to discriminate that would let employers fire women for getting pregnant outside of wedlock....
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/18/1403401/-Republican-Legislation-Will-Permit-Companies-To-Fire-Single-Pregnant-Women?detail=email
Frankly, single pregnant women are a huge drain, financially and productivity-wise, on companies. Especially small companies where the drain isn't diluted by a larger workforce. Seen it many times.
DeleteFrankly, 8:59, you are full of crap! As a formerly single mother, I was never a drain on my company's productivity. If you've "seen it many times", it appears that you have held numerous jobs over time, thus showing a lack of commitment to one company. Job jump much? That is a financial and productivity-wise to companies, especially small companies.
DeleteWrong 9:52. Same small company for almost 20 years. Seen it at other companies also.
DeleteOf course you don't realize it, because you were one of them LOL!
So Bristol should be fired from her job at the dermatologist 's office because she's a financial drain.
DeleteLike the shirt!
ReplyDeleteThe only class of people I dislike as much as religious proselytizers are the tedious professional atheists. They're two sides of one coin.
ReplyDeleteTwo things I dislike.
Delete1. Size queens
2. Tiny dicks
And what coin would that be?
Delete(Also--how about all those playful, scintillating professional atheists? Do you dislike them too?)
I find people that use the word "tedious", tedious.
DeleteI don't like fundamentalist religions of any stripe, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or any other. I believe firmly in the separation of Church and State.
DeleteBut I believe in respecting the rights of people to worship and believe as they see fit, just as I am grateful for their acceptance of my right not to do so.
Just as I see no reason for religions to proselytize, I see no reason for atheists to do so either. I think it's disrespectful to question the faith that people hold, just as it's disrespectful to question my lack of it.
I don't believe in the hypocrisy of saying preaching religion is wrong but preaching atheism isn't. They're both pointless and they both preach to their own choirs.
Thanks for the post, Gryphen!
ReplyDeleteAt least with Dawkins one gets a reasonable explanation for why God doesn't exist. I have yet to read anything explaining how God came into existence, how he created all that exists, why, if he knows the future, he allows bad things to happen, and what heaven will be like.
ReplyDeleteThere is bad in all groups of people. Why can't we all just let people believe whatever they want.
ReplyDeleteBecause they attempt to inflict their superstitious nonsense on others and to have it taught in our public schools, that's why.
DeleteWell that is just too bad isn't it Gryph? Boo hoo for you that people are allowed to believe what they want in this free country. Kind of like you are allowed to have your beliefs, no matter how obnoxious or wacko they may be.
DeleteI don't have beliefs. Having beliefs is for children.
DeleteInstead I have confidence in scientific research, and in facts that are peer reviewed before being disseminated out to the public.
People are free to believe what they want. However, they do not have the right to attempt to force me to believe as they do. One should keep one's religion to themself.
DeleteAnd that's why we have the separation of church and state. And that's why if you believe in the importance of that you vote against people who seek to subvert it. That's why where I live we have a group working hard to stop all religious charter schools, they have no business receiving one cent of taxpayer funding.
DeleteI have no problem with religious schools receiving funding. Children are required to go to school, if parents are paying into the required system, they should be able to recoup that money if they are also paying to send their kid to a private school for a better education.... which is why people send their kids to private schools, since the public schools and school systems are more often than not a joke- and totally wasteful.
DeleteThe public school system is something we all support with out tax dollars. I don't mind paying taxes, but having religion taught in public schools is taxation without representation IF they don't teach ALL religions, agnosticism, atheism, Judaism, Wicca, etc. etc.
DeleteIf I choose to supplement my child's education with religion, then I have the right to send them to private schools or separate religious studies in conjunction with public schools, and pay for the privilege, but don't take other's tax dollars to support your freedom to believe. Somehow, along the way, the separation of church and state in the constitution fell by the wayside.
Why are people who don't have kids and people past the age of reproduction still supporting public schools? Because they were available for them, and a well funded public school is what's teaching the next generation, and society as a whole reaps the rewards.
Hey Winecooler, I know you aren't very bright but here is a light bulb moment for you.
DeleteMost people send their kids to private schools for a good education and the tighter discipline, and they really don't give a rats ass about the religion. Many of these people are middle class and make the responsible decision to keep their older cars cars longer and not take fancy vacations in order to afford a better education and a better future for their kids.... These are the kind of kids and families who understand responsibility and planning and the meaning of education. Being a taxpayer without children, I am much happier my tax money go to these future good citizens, as opposed to what comes out of most poorly run and wasteful public systems.
Got it dummy?
I am basically agnostic. But I just got a new puppy after not having a dog for over a year and once again, I see the face of God in her eyes.
ReplyDeleteWhen puppies are born, they're Christian puppies. Some days later when their eyes open, they become atheists.
DeleteI think that I get what you are saying 1159. Congratulations!
DeleteP.S. that was a really stupid remark 300pm. Piss off!
I appreciate Richard Dawkins and the other "professional atheists" so much. Growing up, I was forced to attend church every week, where I had to listen to bizarre bible stories and threats of eternal damnation. After I was old enough to be in charge of my own life, I avoided religion as much as I could, but still, it's so hard to get away from it. People are always trying to force you to pray with them, talk about your personal relationship with Jesus, sing religious songs, etc. I remember sitting at my public school graduation ceremony listening to a preacher speak to us all and thinking, "isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state?" Without Dawkins and the others, I would never have had the courage to say "No thanks, I'm not religious at all, and I don't want to be preached at by you". Saying that both the religious prosthelytizers and the "professional atheists" are both sides of the same coin pretty much denies thousands of years of religious persecution of non-believers. I know that the quality of my own life has been greatly improved because of the likes of Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris, and others.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Gryph, 11:49 and 12:29. People are free to blaze their own spiritual path, keep it to themselves or discuss it among a community of like-minded people (Sunday service). The big drawback to some religions is obviously that they try to push their theology on to other people or the state.
ReplyDeleteWhat physics mom said @ 2:55. Dawkin's tee shirt slogan is right. We need a well funded public education system. If someone chooses to send their kids to religious schools, then it's their choice, no one's stopping them. But keep yours and everyone else's tax dollars going to support public school, Think of it as an investment in the next generation and we all reap the benefits. Another thing that needs addressing is Churches paying their fair share of taxes, sales, property, building, etc etc. They rely on our tax dollars to maintain infrastructure, snow removal, etc. so they can get people in their pews and collect tax free donations. .
ReplyDelete"investment in the next generation" lol.
DeleteTry instead, 'paying for daytime boarding of future losers and criminals' for 75% of the wasteful public school system.
10:38p
ReplyDeleteIf the public school system can be improved everyone would benefit. Of course, if the system stays fucked the way many GOPers would prefer we're in the toilet as a nation. The age of idiocracy will be here to stay.