Morality is not determined by the church you attend nor the faith you embrace. It is determined by the quality of your character and the positive impact you have on those you meet along your journey
Wednesday, August 26, 2015
Found this on Reddit.
Yeah you can't escape it in this country.
And when you speak out you are accused of disrespecting their religious freedom, or of trying to oppress them.
That's okay, things are changing. And we are patient.
This was a topic just yesterday on DKos with one commenter saying he was tired of the incessant praying at football games, and a whole bunch of otherwise-sane people squalling about free speech.
Okay, I'm going to break my own rule about not posting on any message board before the caffeine is two hours coursing through my blood, so forgive me this time if the result is stupid. (Thank goodness for auto-correct.)
You ever see the movie from early 1982, "Making Love?" Television producer wife Kate Jackson loses doctor husband Michael Ontkean to patient Harry Hamlin? It was one of the last theatrical films with a front and center gay theme that did not reference AIDS, which was just getting its shoes on.
To watch the film today, with its heart-on-its-sleeve, beseeching tolerance-tone is a squirm inducing experience (if still worthwhile for a majestic Wendy Hiller). But it's impossible not to be retroactively aware that those times were about to yield to scenes of angry ACT UP protests in the streets at a recalcitrant Reagan administration as the epidemic's toll was rising to Vietnam casualty numbers. The luxury of pleading forced to give way to fiery demanding.
As an apprentice atheist, this Reddit meme, while every word true, feels like back in that "Making Love" era and makes me wonder what event or fork in the road will foster a more 'go fuck yourself' attitude, 'coming out' and organization from atheists. At 61 I probably won't live to see it with you, and I hope it comes without devastating sacrifice, but I am reminded that speaking truth to power with a goal of greater social justice never came with an 'oh pretty please' approach.
I was about to respond likewise. I have no more patience of these Christofascists. Give them an inch and they'll take your whole country. Fortunately there is push-back from (mostly) atheists but patience won't be enough. Right whinge Christians and the NRA are marching lockstep toward a horrible fascist America. Dog help us all.
Things are changing, but as I've said many times before, it will take many centuries or millenia for humans to finally rid ourselves of the mythology and superstition that comprises religion
Unfortunately logic doesn't work on Christianists. And if there's one thing they live for... It's not receiving Gawd's Grace... It's feeling persecuted. They totally get off on that.
O/T Little Joshie D likes it rough and unprotected. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3210828/Porn-star-says-terrifying-rough-sex-disgraced-Josh-Duggar-TWICE-wife-pregnant-fourth-child.html
See? There. Jimmy Carter gets brain cancer but Josh Duggar does not get testicular cancer. Now, tell me again about the all-just God I'm supposed to believe in.
"How would you feel?" is the operative question, thing is, you can't reason nor expect the small "c" christians to place themselves in another person's shoes. It's an "Us vs Them" "Our way or no way" mentality.
This was a topic just yesterday on DKos with one commenter saying he was tired of the incessant praying at football games, and a whole bunch of otherwise-sane people squalling about free speech.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'm going to break my own rule about not posting on any message board before the caffeine is two hours coursing through my blood, so forgive me this time if the result is stupid. (Thank goodness for auto-correct.)
ReplyDeleteYou ever see the movie from early 1982, "Making Love?" Television producer wife Kate Jackson loses doctor husband Michael Ontkean to patient Harry Hamlin? It was one of the last theatrical films with a front and center gay theme that did not reference AIDS, which was just getting its shoes on.
To watch the film today, with its heart-on-its-sleeve, beseeching tolerance-tone is a squirm inducing experience (if still worthwhile for a majestic Wendy Hiller). But it's impossible not to be retroactively aware that those times were about to yield to scenes of angry ACT UP protests in the streets at a recalcitrant Reagan administration as the epidemic's toll was rising to Vietnam casualty numbers. The luxury of pleading forced to give way to fiery demanding.
As an apprentice atheist, this Reddit meme, while every word true, feels like back in that "Making Love" era and makes me wonder what event or fork in the road will foster a more 'go fuck yourself' attitude, 'coming out' and organization from atheists. At 61 I probably won't live to see it with you, and I hope it comes without devastating sacrifice, but I am reminded that speaking truth to power with a goal of greater social justice never came with an 'oh pretty please' approach.
I'm not patient, Gryphen.
ReplyDeleteI was about to respond likewise. I have no more patience of these Christofascists. Give them an inch and they'll take your whole country. Fortunately there is push-back from (mostly) atheists but patience won't be enough. Right whinge Christians and the NRA are marching lockstep toward a horrible fascist America. Dog help us all.
DeleteReligion is like second-hand smoke.
ReplyDeleteThings are changing, but as I've said many times before, it will take many centuries or millenia for humans to finally rid ourselves of the mythology and superstition that comprises religion
ReplyDeleteActually, our tax dollars do support Muslim schools. And Muslim churches. Charitable contributions are deductible from income to both.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately logic doesn't work on Christianists. And if there's one thing they live for... It's not receiving Gawd's Grace... It's feeling persecuted. They totally get off on that.
ReplyDeleteBut they do NOT believe in freedom of religion. Only in freedom of THEIR religion.
ReplyDeleteO/T Little Joshie D likes it rough and unprotected. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3210828/Porn-star-says-terrifying-rough-sex-disgraced-Josh-Duggar-TWICE-wife-pregnant-fourth-child.html
ReplyDeleteAnd fuck Tim Tebow
See? There. Jimmy Carter gets brain cancer but Josh Duggar does not get testicular cancer. Now, tell me again about the all-just God I'm supposed to believe in.
DeleteTo GOD be the Glory :D
ReplyDeleteGod is a 100% construct of the human mind.
DeleteGet liberated, and leave religion, god, and "holy" scriptures behind in the trash
"How would you feel?" is the operative question, thing is, you can't reason nor expect the small "c" christians to place themselves in another person's shoes. It's an "Us vs Them" "Our way or no way" mentality.
ReplyDelete