Monday, September 28, 2015

New NBC/WSJ poll shows Hillary with only a 7 point lead over Sanders (With Joe Biden added) and Trump leading Ben Carson by 1.

Courtesy of NBC News:  

Donald Trump and Ben Carson are running neck and neck in the national Republican presidential horserace, while Carly Fiorina is now tied for third place with Marco Rubio, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

 So to be clear that guy who thinks the earth is only 6,000 years old and that prison turns people gay, is only one point behind the guy who thinks that Obama's birth certificate is fake and that vaccines cause autism.

That must make the Republican party VERY proud. 

And on the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton has lost ground to Bernie Sanders — she leads him by just seven points with Joe Biden in the race, and 15 points without the vice president. That's down from Clinton's 34-point lead over Sanders in July and her whopping 60-point lead in June.

Personally I do not think it is fair to even consider Joe Biden at this time, and it only reflects poorly on journalists who are trying to make the Democratic race more interesting.

I actually think the race is pretty interesting all on its own without manufactured drama from pollsters.


  1. Bernie Sanders' Shrewd Move That May Push Clinton Left

    The take-away line for me in this editorial is this:

    "By the end of the primaries, regardless of who wins, the candidate will either be a true progressive dedicated to combatting inequality, fighting systemic racism, and running a clean campaign, or someone forced to champion a number of progressive causes that she likely would have barely considered otherwise. And, unlike Hillary Clinton, that’s what matters to Bernie Sanders—that someone, anyone, gets the job done."


    1. Anonymous10:02 AM

      Totally ridiculous. Totally. You morons actually buy into this 'shift' and 'push' crap.


      Chameleons can change their colors all day long, but they are still just chameleons. Try to be a bit smarter kids.

  2. Anonymous6:08 AM

    GOP poll forgot to include Palin .. surely she must be leading by now.

    I dream of POTUS that wears fake tits, butt padding and a wig.

    1. Anonymous7:02 AM

      I just laugh at the pee pond thinking that if she even did declare, that she's shoot to the top and other candidates would immediately drop out.

      When will they ever realize that they've been had?

    2. Just what the world needs. :-)

  3. A Superfan In Atlanta6:51 AM

    "Personally I do not think it is fair to even consider Joe Biden at this time, and it only reflects poorly on journalists who are trying to make the Democratic race more interesting. I actually think the race is pretty interesting all on its own without manufactured drama from pollsters."


    1. Anonymous9:59 AM

      I really don't understand this argument.

      Methinks it really comes from hand wringing Hillary supporters like yourself and Gryph that know Hillary is done if Biden enters the race.

      The reality is though, Hillary is done regardless of Biden due to her own ineptitude.

      Biden has been very clear that he has interest in running. So there is no reason to not include him in polling. Likely he is waiting for Hillary to either drop out due to scandals, or drop so low in polling due to scandals- that he won't appear to have stepped on any toes when he enters the race.

  4. Anonymous7:17 AM

    Who is Donald gonna sue if he falls to 2nd place in the polls?

  5. Anonymous7:24 AM

    I am probably in the minority. But I would really love to see Joe Biden run for president. I like Bernie and Hillary, and I would definitely support them and vote for them.

    But I would be thrilled if Biden ran. I just really think he's a great guy and would make a great president. He served some 30 years in the Senate, doing things that really matter like the Defense of Women Act.

    He seems like he's a very genuine and down to earth guy. The politican I would have the proverbial beer with. He's endured so much tragedy but he's done it with such grace and dignity. I just have a huge amount of respect for him.

    I love the usual conservative hypocrisy. When Bernie entered the race and the thought that Biden might enter, meaning there are three big name candidates to choose from on the Democrat side...they say it's because Hillary's campaign is in trouble and Democrats don't trust her.

    But when Republicans have some 15 or 16 idiots running for president, they consider it a great thing. They have a deeeeep bench and voters get to pick from a wide field and blah blah blah.

  6. Anonymous7:44 AM

    Let the democratic debates begin already, sheesh.

  7. Anonymous7:45 AM

    The pollsters and media really think Americans are idiots! All because Hillary Clinton could be our next POTUS.

    It also appears they are basically forcing Joe Biden to consider joining the race. I sincerely hope he doesn't go for it as I think he'd lose to Hillary Clinton.

  8. Anonymous9:13 AM

    oh man, ugly, ugly, ugliness is on the horizon:

  9. Anonymous9:41 AM

    I'm bottle-feeding a 3 wk old rescue kitten and i named him Bernie Mac Sanders.

    Bernie for short.

    I hope to lovingly call his name for the next 20 years :)

  10. Anonymous9:56 AM

    Meantime Carly Sneed Fiorina sells Dick Cheeney and Shrub's torture and spying buSHIT.

    "Positioning herself as a steely advocate of aggressive counterterrorism programs, Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina offered a vigorous defense of CIA waterboarding as a tactic that helped “keep our nation safe” in the aftermath of 9/11.

    “I believe that all of the evidence is very clear — that waterboarding was used in a very small handful of cases [and] was supervised by medical personnel in every one of those cases,” Fiorina told Yahoo News. “And I also believe that waterboarding was used when there was no other way to get information that was necessary. It's hard to convince people there are unicorns, but there is video proof of that too Fiorina insisted. ”

    Unicorns too. wtf!


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