Courtesy of Raw Story:
“The mother should not believe that the baby is her enemy and should not be looking to terminate the baby,” Carson opined to NBC host Chuck Todd. “We’ve allowed purveyors of division to think that baby is their enemy and they have a right to kill it. Can you see how perverted that line of thinking is?”
When it came to the rights of women, Carson insisted that they should not have the legal choice to terminate unwanted pregnancies.
“Think about this. During slavery — and I know that one of those words you’re not supposed to say — but I’m saying it,” Carson said. “During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave, anything that they chose to do. And what if the abolitionists had said, ‘You know, I don’t believe in slavery, I think it’s wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do.’ Where would we be?” (So a fetus is a slave? I don't get this analogy at all.)
“Ultimately, I would love to see [Roe v. Wade] overturned,” the candidate insisted.
“I’m a reasonable person,” Carson remarked. “And if people can come up with a reasonable explanation of why they would like to kill a baby, [I’ll listen].”
Among the reasonable explanations for terminating an unwanted pregnancy that Carson felt were not "reasonable" included rape or incest.
Carson did concede that in the case of preserving the life of the mother, which he claimed was a very rare circumstance, there is "room to discuss that."
I watched this when it aired on Meet the Press today and I have to say that I got an incredibly creepy vibe from Carson. And instead of his soft spoken manner putting me at ease, it kind of reminded of Christoph Waltz playing the Nazi Colonel in the Quentin Tarantino movie "Inglorious Basterds."
And nothing about that character puts one at ease.
Remember, currently Ben Carson is either ahead of or right behind Donald Trump in the polls.
And here you thought the scariest thing about this October was the ghosts and ghouls associated with Halloween.
How about: it's not a baby, Doctor. That reasonable enough? I cannot believe I ever admired this person.
ReplyDeleteConsidering he has performed surgery on babies while still in the womb, and thereby saving lives, I can certainly understand where he comes from. He is in a better position than any other politition to say it is or isn't a life. I also respect that he doesn't beat around the bush, but rather states his belief. You know exactly where he stands, and in this world of political liars (on both sides!) I give him credit for it. To change any law, he would have to go through Congress, AND the Supreme Court, and I don't see that happening. It's not like he'll try to go around Congress and use executive action to force his will on the country. Unless he follows Obama's lead, that is.
DeleteAh yes! The executive action. I'm beginning to think that President Obama will never catch up to George W Bush- he needs 69 more. Of course he won't ever have more than Reagan. That would take 160 more.
DeleteI didn't realize Obama invented executive actions. Fascinating. Because Ben Carson is a doctor, he knows better than most that a fetus is not a baby.
DeleteHe did research using aborted fetus parts, so he can shut his hypocritical mouth.
DeleteYeah, Ben Carson never operated on a 4-week-old fetus. Or a 12-week-old fetus.
DeleteMaking abortion services expensive, difficult to access, privacy exposed, added unnecessary medical procedures etc. are all the tactics of the Dr. Carson's of this world.
DeleteThey can't overturn Roe v. Wade but they can force many women into continuing an unwanted pregnancy by closing clinics etc.
They can jail women for not meeting their standards for nurturing the fetus.
They can give rapists parental rights.
You say "It's not like he'll try to go around Congress and use executive action to force his will on the country. " Well, you are either deluded, stupid or burbling propaganda only a mindless drone would believe.
I think stupid fits the bill.
Anonymous6:01 PM
Delete"in this world of political liars (on both sides!)" …There you go with the false equivalencies cr@p. If you think this man has the right to tell a woman she has no rights over her body, you're as crazy as he is.
Anonymous6:01 PM
DeleteHe is even worse than the other liars. Because I know he knows better.
"“During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave, anything that they chose to do."….Yes, Dr. Carson, that included raping them and forcing to have unwanted babies that they could not afford to feed. Your cognitive dissonance is astounding.
DeleteWrong; 6:01; Ben Carson did research on ABORTED FETAL TISSUE; he never performed in-vitro surgery. Please research your lies more carefully.
DeleteTypical rightwing projection; the only "slaves" in this story are the women--the actual BORN, thinking, feeling human beings--who Ben Carson wants to deny personhood to by depriving of the basic human right of body autonomy.
DeleteObama may have to do more to get to the quantity of Bush (I haven't researched, so i'm using your words) but the content is different. I don't like Bush or his policies. Period. But his exec. actions were more policy like: be sure to consider veterans with hiring, rather than stating to the american public that you will make laws with it. There is a difference. Also, when is it ok to say that it is a baby? If its when it's born, then many abortion facilities have broken the law, and just set the baby aside to die, rather than take appropriate action. There are questions worth investigating, if people can get over themselves. Just because someone is against abortion doesn't mean they are against women.
Delete"If its when it's born, then many abortion facilities have broken the law, and just set the baby aside to die, rather than take appropriate action."
DeleteBabies are not being born at abortion facilities. An abortion is not a birth.
"be sure to consider veterans with hiring, rather than stating to the american public that you will make laws with it."
DeleteWhat are you talking about? This is meaningless as you've written it.
4:20AM, you are a special and scary brand of stupid.
Delete@ Anonymous 6:01 PM -
DeleteExecutive orders are constitutional. Why do you hate the constitution?
Do you not realize that some abortions fail? That live babies CAN and sometimes ARE born? You need to do more research! Start with Kermit Gosnell, and realize that some of that happens at every location.
DeleteYou bring up Gosnell. There is no evidence that this practice is widespread or anything more than extremely rare, certainly not happening in "many abortion facilities" as you contend. If you have any evidence of that this is happening in "many abortion facilities," please post it. Gosnell was a complete mess and a terrible, horrible doctor who botched all kinds of things.
DeleteBringing up Gosnell is like saying we need to investigate every circus and round up all the clowns because John Wayne Gacy was a serial killer.
Before Roe v. Wade women in the United States had abortions. Wealthy women traveled abroad to have safe, affordable, available, private abortions. Other women used back alley abortionists and many of those women were mutilated or died.
ReplyDeleteDr. Carson should be made to admit that NO ONE in the United States can prevent a woman from leaving this country to have an abortion. He should be made to admit that he is only interested in forcing women of lower economic status to incubate babies to satisfy Dr. Carson's sexual need to control women.
Rape is assault and so is forced birth.
Forcing a raped 12 year old to bring a fetus to term is evil.
ReplyDeleteYou may have 'saved the baby' but you have no doubt ruined the 12-year-old's life, assuming she even makes it safely through pregnancy and delivery which is much less likely at that age. But Ben probably thinks she was asking for it because she wasn't dressed modestly enough.
DeleteAnd once that baby is born she'd better give it right up for adoption, unless of course her body was not equipped to produce a healthy, full-term baby. In that case, she'd better keep the baby herself, but she'd better not dare expect any help from the government to raise it. Get out there and get yourself a job, you little slacker!
Yes, 'evil' is a good word.
I cannot put into words how much I hate this man, and all the so called Christians who want to impose their christian sharia law on blacks, latinos, girls, women, the poor, and immigrants.
DeleteThe outright denial of science and medical facts are no less than terrifying from a man who was supposedly a doctor of medicine.
An acorn is not a tree, and a 7 day old embryo is not a human being, but these Christian taliban know no limits in their criminally insane attempts to outlaw legal abortion and contraceptives.
Ultimately, it comes down to putting females in their rightful place as 4th class chattel, being brood mares, housewives, and submissive servants of males.
People like Carson are Dog Damn lucky that I'm a peaceful man and don't want to take up 2nd amendment remedies to silence their viciously stupid words and behavior, once and for all.
Athiesm, reason, and critical thinking is what gives me the morality to not want to kill them all.
Great post anonymous 8:52.
DeleteMakes me want to buy a lifetime supply of "morning after" pills.
ReplyDeleteSo you can be a perpetual whore. Makes sense to me.
Delete"a lot of the slave owners thought they had the right to do whatever they wanted to that slave, anything that they chose to do."
ReplyDeleteRight, like raping them and forcing them to carry the unwanted fetus to term.
“We’ve allowed purveyors of division to think that baby is their enemy and they have a right to kill it. Can you see how perverted that line of thinking is?”
Yes. But apparently Ben can't see that it's MORE perverted to project the idea that's what any woman actually thinks.
Too bad there's no viable method of surgically implanting an embryo into a man. I suspect these "pro-lifers" opinion would change drastically...
And that will get him a lot of fans - probably one named SP.
ReplyDeleteDr. Carson, what should be the penalty for an American woman that has an abortion in another country? How will you determine whether it was an abortion or miscarriage? Science, how does is werk?
ReplyDeleteOT/ but Sarah really didn't run in the Marine Corp Marathon, right? There's no proof.
ReplyDeleteCorrect. Someone registered her as a joke.
DeleteNo one spent over $500 to register Sarah besides Sarah.
DeleteCorrect. Someone registered her as a joke.
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Well, if the shoe fits......
Mildred
No one registered her as a joke. There is a 500 dollar entrance fee.
DeleteWhy bother typing "O/T"? Better yet, why does almost every post in this blog have to tie back to godforsaken Sarah Palin? It is as sick as she is!
DeleteNo one registered Sarah as a joke. The low bib number means that she entered early, when the marathon was first announced. That would have been around the time that Bristol was going to marry an ex-Marine, and Sarah probably wanted to make a good impression on her future son-in-law.
DeleteThe Palin-bots think that someone registered Sarah as a joke to embarrass her. No one knew about the Marine Marathon, so there was no embarrassment. Sarah registered last spring, and she didn't show up. Sarah has not written a facebook post for days. All that she has in terms of future appearances will be some book signings to promote the Nancy French ghost written book of bible verses. She is probably recovering from her latest round of plastic surgery so she looks good for her book tour.
7:43pm, why are you monitoring what other people post?
DeleteJeb Bush signed into a law a requirement that single mothers publish their sexual history. And all you crazed freaks want to discuss is whether or not Sarah Palin ran a marathon?!?! Really?
DeleteAnon 9:52, I would appreciate a link.
DeleteActually 9:52, we can multitask!
DeleteI wonder if he would have 'accepted' a baby if his wife had been raped?
ReplyDeleteThe usual statistic is 1 in 4 American women are raped at least once. But rape info is woefully inaccurate because of the pressure to not report. Dr. Carson has no foolproof way of knowing if his wife has been raped or if it resulted in a pregnancy which was either aborted or miscarried. Same with all the women in his family.
DeleteYou know, you never hear any candidate that is so deadset against women's health rights start any sentence off with, "When I spoke with xyz women's group...." or "When I sought counsel and the opinion of women doctors...." or "After speaking with several women that educated me on the many different medical services they require and the costs they rack up just to stay healthy....."
ReplyDeleteIt's always what they think....and they don't think with their vaginas or wombs.
Yes, and I love the "Women SHOULD think....women SHOULD NOT think", stuff.
DeleteIt is always what they think. In the case of pregnancy, they have no awareness whatsoever that what they think is physically irrelevant.
Slaves were deprived the basic human right to be free.
ReplyDeleteWomen have a basic human right to make their own health decisions.
Slaves also did not grow within a woman's body, physically supported by her, literally in the same way that a parasite is.
DeleteUnfortunate word, but in fact, a totally accurate description of the gestation process.
So why does anyone else but the individual woman get to make her own decision about her own body?
So he's a brain surgeon. So what. He merely personifies the fact that expertise and wisdom are not synonymous. But let him keep talking like that, and he's sure to send an historic number of women to polls to vote for Clinton.
ReplyDeleteIdiot savant
DeleteThere's serious speculation about actual mental illness
DeleteThere is absolutely nothing about a fetus that instantly transforms a woman to be mentally, emotionally, economically, and physically healthy enough to bring a pregnancy to term (much less raise the child to age 18).
ReplyDeleteDr. Carson probably has plenty of plans for punishing women that don't meet his standards for the care of the fetus he would force them to carry. Didn't eat the right foods, lady, jail for you.
According to Dr. Carson, Pregnancy immediately makes a woman an idiot who cannot make decions about her own body for herself.
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DeleteYou win the internet for today.
I agree. He gives off a very creepy vibe.
ReplyDeleteWas Carson's retirement forced because he started to say all kinds of crazy shit that made his fellow doctors and nurses uncomfortable?
ReplyDeleteNo, je retired because his malpractice insurance would not cover him anymore after too many high priced payouts because of his incompetence.
DeleteThere are at least 6 lawsuits that involve Dr. Ben Carson, such as his leaving a sponge in a woman's head following neurosurgery. The case that I thought was damning was when he performed an operation three times and it was not successful. Someone had to point out some lesions on the brain stem of the patient which interfered with the surgery. Oh, if only Dr. Ben had seen the brain scan....but he did not acquaint himself with every detail of his patient's medical background before operation. That's careless and thoughtless.
DeleteThe scariest thing about October is that there are so many people are supporting Carson or Trump. Stupid people elect stupid representatives.
ReplyDeleteBen is such a dolt. Undermine the right to privacy in one's body (which is the basis of Roe v. Wade) and you undermine the argument AGAINST slavery.
ReplyDeletePer PP's own stats, rape and incest atribute to less than one half of one percent of abortions performed. That is a HUGELY small number. That makes it safe to say that VIRTUALLY all of abortions are because of recreational sex. Since contraceptives are so easily aquired, there's not much excuse for abortions, and they are certainly not rare. In that light, I would agree that most shouldn't happen. Should women-and men- be held responsible for their actions? Yes. Good, bad, or indifferent.
ReplyDeleteYou don't get to decide what a woman does with her own body either, get over it.
DeleteWho the fuck cares?
DeleteNo, contraceptives still aren't "easily acquired" for many women, especially with all the Planned Parenthood clinic closings. Sex ed has been undermined by the religious right and ridiculous and uninformative abstinence "education" substituted.
DeleteAnd BC can fail.
But remember 6:10 - don't want an abortion, don't have one. So simple.
An excuse for abortion? How about the person in question wants one. Good enough for me.
DeleteI'm unmarried. I do not take birth control pills because I am not sexually active. If I am raped, Dr. Carson should not be the one to decide what I do about the pregnancy.
DeleteAnd, it is none of your business either. Take your "recreational sex" bullshit and shove up where the sun don't shine. Your preachy rant isn't worth the bits it's printed with.
You are right, Bristol Palin should be held accountable for all of the unwed pregnancies that she had treated by Free Native Healthcare.
Delete"Reacreational sex" you pompous, idiot? Who the F@ck are you to decide what kind of purpose is acceptable for sex?
Delete@6:10
DeleteYou can't possibly think that only Planned Parenthood does abortions. Or that their statistics give an accurate picture of abortion rates and the reasons women give for making their health decisions.
Basing your arguments about "recreational sex" on incomplete statistics is simply juvenile.
"Recreational sex?" How about the poor woman with six kids already who, yes, has sex as an outlet, can't drive 200 miles across Texas to a clinic, and gets pregnant again? She also has two jobs, neither of which will allow her any maternity leave. You're telling us that she has to give up her jobs (and feeding her other kids) instead of having a procedure and maybe getting help? Your argument would be fine were you not also, like all Republicans, against SNAP, public education, paid parental leave, and on and on. You guys are all about the fetus, and damn the consequences, or just damn the woman who dares have unprotected sex...and how come this is NEVER about the man? Why isn't Ben promoting contraception, education for young men and older men about respect for women? Because this is not about the babes, but about controlling and punishing women.
DeleteDoes PP actually ask the patient, hey, was that sex recreational? Really?
DeleteWow! I am in shock that a commenter on this blog would differentiate between types of sex, as well as discount those sexual acts deemed "recreational"!
DeleteWhat century are we living in, again?! LOL.
Does this explain Carson a bit? http://www.latinpost.com/articles/89616/20151025/who-is-candy-carson-ben-carsons-wife-profile-a-glimpse-of-her-role-in-the-republican-election-campaign.htm
ReplyDeleteBy all accounts his mother was domineering and authoritarian. He wasn't around for his kids' upbringing - his wife refers to herself as a single mom during those years. She also appears to do much of his work for him.
ReplyDeleteIN other words, could it be that Ben has unresolved "mommy issues?"
This guy is one big snoozefest. I watched another interveiw with him and I want to know what's up with keeping your eyes closed while speaking to someone? SO annoying. Is he condescending or just trying to remember his pre-rehearsed answers?
ReplyDeleteWell I know one phrase I won't ever be using again besides "and I'm the queen of England". It's "and I'm a brain surgeon"!
Yah, make 'em all have babies so you can look down on them. Twisted MoFos.
ReplyDeleteIsn't requiring a woman to have a baby after being raped or being the victim of incest the very definition of slavery? One person does whatever violence they want to and another forces you to bear the consequences. Sound like slavery to me.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely sounds that way in my eyes.
DeleteHere's the correct "slave" analogy:
ReplyDeletehttps://storify.com/DevonKidd/slave-breeding
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_breeding_in_the_United_States
I think women (and men, fathers) should start talking openly about what pregnancy and child birth does to the bodies of most women. After her third child, I remember my sister saying "This is the last baby, my body can't take another one." Some women have severe vericose veins, and there's a reason so many women, after giving birth to several children, have permanent bladder leakage. Vaginas are stretched and torn numerous times.Your breast and nipples are never the same, but that's nothing compared to the not unheard of risk of experiencing post partum psychosis. I'm sure there may be additonal negative, body-destructive effects that can result due to multiple births that I'm not aware of.
My point is no woman, and especially no female child, should be forced to endure a pregnancy and birth that, in my sister's words, their "body can't take."
There is no truer statement than "if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." It's all about controlling women, period. If the goverment, at any level, can dictate a woman's reproductive system, function and health, that person is not a free human being.
How right you are.
DeleteBeaglemom
Ben is still in his purple haze I see. Do conservatives really think this nut is presidential material? The same conservatives that worry our country is falling apart? And Ben Carson is the answer?? Almost as laughable as Trump. Or more, or not, I can't tell which is crazier.
ReplyDeleteMildred
They are hoping for a "puppet " . Its the same as they tried with palin,and failed miserably. Black/ woman.The GOP will never learn!
DeleteAaaand..does anyone--ANYONE??--think the goobers in the rebel states are going to vote for someone of color? I don't thinkso.
DeleteOT: New opinion piece in the Washington Post on Simple Sarah:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gops-dysfunction-all-started-with-sarah-palin/2015/10/25/bdd34892-7442-11e5-8248-98e0f5a2e830_story.html
Go away.
DeleteIt was pretty obvious that Sarah Palin was not qualified to have been chosen as a VP running mate. Since then, the Republicans have only produced even more crazies, and they don't seem to mind that the idiots are making the rest of them look really bad. They allowed Birther Trump to spout his racist "born in Kenya" crap long after Obama produced his birth certificate. He doesn't seem to embarrass them, even though our country would be seen as a laughing stock if Trump was actually elected as the president. Carson is another one of those fumble-bums, along with Michele Bachmann, and all of the other crazies in the Clown Car. Are there any moderates left in the Republican party? Are there any Republicans who actually want to govern instead of obstruct? I can't imagine that idiots like Trump and Carson are leading in the polls. Has our country grown that brain dead?
DeleteI think that the modern GOP craziness started back in the days of Richard Nixon and was taken to the next level by Ronald Reagan and to the current really weird level by John McCain's unleashing of Sarah Palin on the world.
DeleteBeaglemom
7:50PM, take your own advice.
DeletePut more simply: in 2008, John McCain validated ignorance and fringe psychosis with his VP pick. Palin resonated with low intelligence voters who found her "relatable" basically because she was, truly, "just like them".
DeleteDesperate for any votes they could get and typically short-sighted, the GOP embraced and nurtured this demographic wholeheartedly, failing to predict the inevitability of the monster they were creating turning against them.
The end.
Carson is definitely crazier than Trump. He reminds me of Chauncey Gardener in Being Their.
ReplyDeleteHe absolutely does!!
DeleteCarson seems to be sleep talking.
DeleteUncle Ben is in a semi comatose state of mind. The long pauses when he closes his slitted eyeballs is extremely
ReplyDeleteDisconcerting. He reminds me of the Manchurian Candidate.
The (dim) lights are on but nobody's home. He seems almost
Programmed. And that monotone voice should be a cure for insomnia. 2 or 3 minutes of that and I'm sawing logs. And the R's love him because he's an outsider. Who are these people?
Mentally ill. Seriously.
DeleteBenjamin Carson: I was not a serious student at all. In fact, I was a horrible student. But, you know, like many students, I kind of envisioned myself as a doctor anyway, despite the fact that I wasn't doing well. I can remember we used to sit in the hallways at Detroit City Hospital or Boston City Hospital for hours and hours because we were on medical assistance, which meant we had to wait until one of the interns or residents was free to see us, and I didn't mind at all because I was in the hospital. And, I was listening to the PA system. "Dr. Jones, Dr. Jones to the emergency room," just sounded so fabulous. And I would be saying, "They're going to be saying 'Dr. Carson' one day." But, of course we have beepers now.
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Oh yeah, the man is brilliant.............
"And I did get into fights, I would injure people. I tried to hit my mother in the head with a hammer."
Deletewhoaaaa
He said he went after people with knives, rocks, bricks, baseball bats, and hammers.
DeleteCarson has a lot of "demons" running around in his head. I think he let religion zip him up really tight and we are starting to see the zipper bulging and leaking out some of the crazy.
There is something wrong with Carson. He may have once been a brilliant neurosurgeon, but today he sounds like someone on drugs, someone who may have had a stroke. If he wants to use the image of slavery, meaning when one person has complete control over the life and body of another person-- that describes what happens to the woman when she is raped. She is at the will of the rapist, much like the women who were raped by the slave owner. She is not the slave owner when she tries to exercise control over her own body.
ReplyDeleteCarson barely admitted that maybe there could be an abortion if it meant the life of the woman. He would have to think about it. But, he would make her bear the child of the rapist or the child of incest. There he is, controlling the woman's life after the point when she lost control of her body. It is Carson who acts like the slave owner, controlling the woman,not allowing her free choice and freedom.
Carson says that simplistic stuff to appeal to the low level voters. His examples of using Hitler, Nazis and slavery are emotional buzz words meant to appeal to emotions, not to any form of reason. Much of what Carson says is foolish, and I am surprised that he is doing so well in the polls. This must be an indication of just how stupid people are-- or how bad the polls are. After all, during the 2012 election, the polls also said that the race between Obama and Romney was too close to call, and many of the polls had Romney ahead by a few points. Right, we all know how that one turned out.
There up is definitely something off about Ben Carson. Let him or Rubio or Cruz or trump or jeb even be the repub nominee- the presidency is Hillary's. I love Bernie but I just don't thnk he can beat Hillary. Hillary's term as Secretary of State and working with president Obama seems to have helped her become her own person truly separate from bill. In addition she seems to have learned she can be a woman and win as opposed to 2008 when she was running as her husband in a pantsuit.
DeleteI would love a ticket with Bernie and Hillary together-he would keep her leaning left and she would keep him from going full on socialist:)
Dr. Carson is another repub wannabe who will go the way of Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman and the other clowns who have faded from sight.
Suffragette the film couldn't be better timed in its release date to remind the younger generation of women how hard the older generation of women fought for our rights including the right to decide what is best for our bodies and our lives.
The Christian right's god entrusts women to be the ones who bear children so the same trust must be assumed when any woman chooses not to bear a child.
I'll betcha if Hillary wins she will put Bernie to good use. I'd love that!
DeleteCarson's success in the polls has everything to do with the stupidity of the electorate and the desire of that electorate to show that their hatred of President Obama is not "racist."
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There is something unnatural and unsettling about Ben Carson's demeanor. He strikes me as having Asperger's syndrome. Maybe he is just a sociopath. His affect is completely flat.
ReplyDeleteIf men became as responsible for their child as women have to be -- I mean if men actually paid half the total all-inclusive cost of raising one -- the issue would end in a hurry.
ReplyDeleteI still have never understood this obsession with other people's sexual issues. If you don't like abortion, don't have one. But leave other people alone to exert their preference. Busybodies, busybodies.
I agree wholeheartedly.
DeleteBeaglemom
It seems like every word out of this guy's mouth is either "slavery" or "Hitler."
ReplyDeleteThat's why the tea baggers and GOP love him. He's a politically incorrect black guy who agrees with all their racist, classist, anti-intellectual bullshit
He's their "black friend" who doesn't get offended when they say that black people are lazy or that black people are the REAL racists or that white men are the REAL victims.
He is as phony as a $3 bill !
DeleteCarson seems to think that all you need are buzzwords like "slavery" and "Hitler." Well, I guess for the average GOP mentality those two words work. Not many Republicans know much about history.
DeleteBeaglemom
Sadly, it appears to me to simply be Carson's pathetic idea of what "being against political correctness" and "going rogue" is = compare everything to slavery and nazis. Yawn.
DeleteBen is quickly slipping to the levels of desperate "me too! Hey, look at me! I'm conservative too you guys! Hey!" as "Bobby" Jindal.
Rubio gives up on Senate: ‘He hates it’
ReplyDelete...Five years ago, Rubio arrived with a potential that thrilled Republicans. He was young, ambitious, charismatic, fluent in English and Spanish, and beloved by the establishment and the tea party.
But Rubio had arrived at one of the least ambitious moments in Senate history and saw many of his ideas fizzle. Democrats killed his debt-cutting plans. Republicans killed his immigration reform. The two parties actually came together to kill his AGREE Act, a small-bore, hands-across-the-aisle bill that Rubio had designed just to get a win on something.
Now, he’s done. “He hates it,” a longtime friend from Florida said, speaking anonymously to say what Rubio would not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2015/10/25/28cfaff0-6d59-11e5-9bfe-e59f5e244f92_story.html
Things may never be the same for the Freedom Caucus after most of its members moved last week to support Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) as the next House speaker. Suddenly, they may not be conservative enough for some in the party.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fuming-over-ryan-some-conservative-voices-turn-on-the-freedom-caucus/2015/10/25/8194f3ce-7999-11e5-a958-d889faf561dc_story.html
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The base of the GOP and its most extreme members remind me of a fascist leaning cohort. I know that is harsh. But the disdain for democratic processes, the contempt for compromise, the extreme hatred of opponents in their own country, the belief that "outsiders" have taken over the country, the sense that these "Freedom Caucus" or Tea Party types are the custodians of the nation's authentic values, their identification with chest-thumping, arrogant male bullies all remind me of the sort of mobs that went out into the streets for the likes of Mussolini, Franco, Peron, and, yes the monster with the funny mustache. They are perhaps not quite there yet, but there isn't much more space between where they are now and full-throated embrace of a man on horseback.
The Republicans have a plan for the closed Planned Parenthood centers:
ReplyDeleteThey will be converted into clinics where rightwingers can go, to have any leftover COMPASSION permanently removed.
That will allow them to fully support deportation, banning abortion, repealing all equal rights legislation, killing all environmental protections, and the food stamp program...
...without the bother of a conscience getting in the way.
I'm very glad that Carson no longer works as a neurosurgeon. I think he's as batshit crazy as any and all of the other members of the GOP Klown Kar this election cycle.
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
I seriously think he is mentally ill. The bizarre and violent juxtapositions he comes up are just not normal. A commenter at another site proposed he has early onset dementia.
ReplyDeleteHe was a very violent teenager by his own admission, and not just the stabbing.
DeleteI think he's trying to appeal to the extreme right wingdings,And he's demented. As long as it's not his body,so what? I'd thought for a minute that he was a closet stoner,with those drooping eyelids. Nah,just a suck up. What a hoot that in a field of boobs,dumpster and dopey are the two left standing.
ReplyDeleteSomething wrong with this guy, he's done a 180 degree turnaround from his violent tendency in childhood. Okay, he might have really changed his life, but, how do the elect know if he's telling the truth. The man appears so drugged. Is he hiding the fact he may be dependent on drugs to keep his mind from rage? There's something really amiss with this one.
ReplyDeleteAnd, he seems to love pushing his agenda, and saying it in ways that sound very dictatorial.
You said what I have been thinking since the fist time I saw/heard him speak. Yes, he's very, very calm and relaxed and even soothing to listen to - but to the point that he seems drugged or something. Hearing about his past is a mixed thing for me - I was also a pretty volatile teenager so I can relate to some of that but not to that degree where it became such anger and violence. It does seem he's lived a pretty good life and he is obviously highly respected in his field - but yeah...what did it take for him to make such a change and become so passive? (I'm still the same fiery girl inside that I was back then, but I have "grown up" and no longer lash out before thinking and working things through) He's kind of scary to me, though he has a likability factor some others don't have if you don't dig too deep or pay attention to his stance on important issues ;)
DeleteI can certainly see why he retired. The hyppocratic oath means nothing to someone who calls a fetus a baby. And he's kind of low energy, I keep waiting for him to fall asleep during an interview.
ReplyDeleteThey say he was a good surgion. He claims to be a gifted dr. So far I've seen no outstanding qualities I would expect from someone running for president.
ReplyDeleteHe's a Seventh Day Adventist.
ReplyDeleteDoes that mean if he's elected he'll forbid celebrating holidays and birthdays?