Monday, October 19, 2015

Jeb bush trips all over himself trying to explain why it is reasonable to blame Hillary Clinton for Benghazi but not blame his brother for 9-11.

Courtesy of Raw Story: 

Tapper wondered if Bush’s loyalty to his brother “might be in some ways a political or policy liability blinding you to mistakes he made.” 

“It’s what you do after that matters,” Bush insisted. “Does anybody actually blame my brother for the attacks on 9/11? If they do, they’re totally marginalized in our society. It’s what he did afterwards that mattered, and I’m proud of him. And so are a bunch of other people.” 

“Obviously al Qaeda was responsible for the terrorist attacks of 9/11,” the CNN host pressed. “But how do you respond to critics who ask if your brother and his administration bear no responsibility at all, how do you then make the jump that President Obama and Secretary Clinton are responsible for what happened at Benghazi?” 

Bush stammered in response: “Well, I — the question on Benghazi, which we will now finally get the truth to, is was the place secure? They had a responsibility at the Department of State to have proper security.” 

“And how was the response in the aftermath of the attack?” he continued. “Was there a chance that these four American lives could have been saved? That’s what the investigation is about, it’s not a political issue… Were we doing the job of protecting our embassies and our consulates, and during the period, those hours after the attacks started, could they have been saved?” 

“That’s kind of proving the point of the critics,” Tapper noted. “You don’t want you brother to bear responsibility for 9/11 — and I understand that argument and al Qaeda is responsible — but why are the terrorists not the ones that are responsible for these attacks in Libya?” 

“They are!” Bush replied. “But if the ambassador was asking for additional security and they didn’t get it, that’s a proper point. And if it’s proven that the security was adequate compared to other embassies, then fine, we’ll move on.”

Actually there was already a report released back in 2014 which found that Hillary Clinton and the Obama Administration acted appropriately to the attack, and that there was no cover up: 

The final report, from Chairman Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, and ranking member Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Maryland, concludes there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack, no stand-down order to CIA operatives trying to go assist at the besieged consular building and found conflicting intelligence in the wake of the attack about the motive and cause, which were reflected in early public comments by the administration.

Of course Jeb! already knows this just like WE all know that his brother was warned repeatedly about a pending terrorist attack before 9-11 and did nothing to stop it. 

it should also be noted that there were 39 separate attacks on American embassies or embassy personnel during the Bush Administration resulting in the deaths of 87 people. Not all of them were American of course, but enough were to make the American death toll significantly higher than at Benghazi.

Simply put Donald Trump is destroying Jeb's candidacy one trolling tweet at a time, and Jeb! is helping him do it by rushing to defend his brother which invites unfavorable comparisons with the Obama administration.

34 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:13 AM

    It's goona get real thick now. Dubya's disastrous administration will be (and should be) the albatross around Jeb's neck. I cant stand El Donaldo, but I'm glad that he is going after Jeb on this issue. It's definitely fair game.

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  2. Anonymous4:18 AM

    What bothers many people is what he did NOT do before - READ THE WARNING MEMO. He glanced at it, said to the aide who delivered it "Well, you have covered your ass" and continued with his vacation on his pig farm.. Then, as planned, they invaded what we knew was the WRONG couuntry.They knew it too, but ignored all the dissenters.

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  3. SallyinMI4:22 AM

    Who is advising this guy? He should never have mentioned his brother, and 'kept us safe?" Really Jeb!? Tell that to the 3300 people who were killed on 9-11 and the 5000 soldiers after. Tell that to the families of the 100,000 plus he is responsible for in Iraq. Bush kept himself safe. Period. The rest of us are now under house arrest because the NRA took advantage of the fear-mongering of your brother's creepy administration to convince the rubes that they needed not one handgun, buy as many assault weapons and and as much ammo as they can hoard, because if the Muslims weren't coming after us, Obama was. So I hold him responsible for all the children being shot daily in this 'exceptional' country too.
    What did he do after? He turned this nation into a hateful, scary place. That is what he did. On purpose.
    Pitiful. Disgusting. Pathetic. And those are the words I can write publicly. You, Jeb, will never be President. Go away.

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    1. Anonymous5:11 AM

      Exactly correct. But don't expect to find this in Texans' American History books.

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    2. Anonymous5:28 AM

      Excellent comment, thank you.

      Re pubs don't like to see the numbers pointed out like that.

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    3. Anonymous6:12 AM

      The exact same crew who advised his idiot brother. They really believe they did nothing wrong because they created their own reality and what they did jives with that. To the rest of the WORLD, they are insane and should be locked up in a jail for war crimes.
      Jeb is one of the founders of the PNAC and he KNEW exactly what was needed to bring off the Rovian 1000 years of GOPper reign, another Pearl Harbor. THAT'S why Dubya and crew did nothing about those warnings. They needed death and destruction on US soil (although I don't thikn they realized how much) in order to take over and "protect us".
      That meeting in the beginning of the Cheney/Bush era, the one with all the oil and energy execs... they talked about taking over Iraq and squeezing the shit out of the oil fields. They could not do it without taking out Saddam so they needed a reason to do so. Saudi Arabia hated Saddam and they were the partner to the whole thing.
      I know it sounds nuts but it all fits. Saudi's were who took out the towers and the Pentagon, all of Bin Laden's familywas flown home while the rest of is us sat on the ground around out TV's watching our world change 180%. Meanwhile Cheney sat with his feet on his desk, pleased as punch.

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    4. Anonymous6:37 AM

      Agreed with the above comments 100%. It's wasn't 9/11 that changed our country forever. It was the evil Bush regime that followed. Because of the quagmire Bush cronies got us into JEB! Will never and should never be POTUS. I love it that Trump called him out on it. Although I'm no fan of Trump or anyone else in the republican field.

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    5. Anonymous8:11 AM

      ... wishing you could tell this on a mountain, Sally!

      Your 'under house arrest' analogy struck me in the pit of my stomach with a truthiness sledgehammer.

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  4. Anonymous4:36 AM

    I honestly do not understand why Jeb connotes excitement wants to be president. Is it just because his father and brother were? That's not a reason. He'd be just Bush III. It's insane. He already has his brothers advisors on his payroll.

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    1. Anonymous4:55 AM

      Maybe big brother George has been teasing him about not being president.

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    2. Anonymous10:27 AM

      A President;s pension and the perks are what Jebby is after. He clearly is not qualified for the job. Since those facts did not stop his dumb brother, why should Jeb hold ack? Google Marvin Bush, their brother. He held a high security post at the WTC then disappeared after the attacks.

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  5. Anonymous4:41 AM

    Funny how the Republicans aren't investigating themselves for cutting millions of dollars for embassy security.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/how-republicans-cut-benghazi-security-and-blamed-hillary

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    1. Anonymous5:57 AM

      Exactly!

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    2. Anonymous10:28 AM

      Four Anericans died in Benghazi they keep saying. How many died in the WTC, then afterwards in the ill conceived wars? Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.

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  6. Anonymous6:01 AM

    "39 separate attacks on American embassies or embassy personnel during the Bush Administration resulting in the deaths of 87 people. "

    .....and not one taxpayer funded witch hunt

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  7. Nikogriego6:41 AM

    While everyone is talking about whether Bush kept us safe, or whether he allowed the "attacks" to occur by his own negligence, let’s take a minute to re-acquaint ourselves with the official explanation, which is not regarded as a conspiracy theory despite the fact that it comprises an amazing conspiracy.

    The official truth is that a handful of young Muslim Arabs who could not fly airplanes, mainly Saudi Arabians who came neither from Iraq nor from Afghanistan, outwitted not only the CIA and the FBI, but all 16 US intelligence agencies and all intelligence agencies of US allies, including Israel’s Mossad, which is believed to have penetrated every terrorist organization and which carries out assassinations of those whom Mossad marks as terrorists.

    In addition to outwitting every intelligence agency of the United States and its allies, the handful of young Saudi Arabians outwitted the National Security Council, the State Department, NORAD, airport security four times in the same hour on the same morning, air traffic control, caused the US Air Force to be unable to launch interceptor aircraft, and caused three well-built steel-structured buildings, including one not hit by an airplane, to fail suddenly in a few seconds as a result of limited structural damage and small, short-lived, low-temperature fires that burned on a few floors.

    The Saudi terrorists were even able to confound the laws of physics and cause WTC building seven to collapse at free fall speed for several seconds, a physical impossibility in the absence of explosives used in controlled demolition.

    So if you believe that Osama bin Laden was behind these events, or that Bush "allowed" it to happen through intention or negligence, you need to do more research.

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    1. Anonymous9:18 AM

      Exactly.

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  8. Anonymous8:54 AM

    Meantime the republican kkklown car stopped off at Peckerwood Baptist Church located somewhere in texASS.


    Were the nuts are always out and rebiblican Jeebus never fucks over a rebiblican. But the kids in the congregation best be aware..

    http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/bud-kennedy/article39824838.html

    "President Bush did keep us safe, no matter what anyone says.Pastor Jack Graham"

    Pastor Graham knows all about keeping people safe. Google Prestonwood and John Langworthy. Or Prestonwood and Pastor Joe Barron.

    Or read this http://www.dallasvoice.com/prestonwood-church-history-sex-abuse-opposing-plano-ordinance-10188061.html

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  9. Anonymous10:02 AM

    Trump’s Honest Criticism of George W. Bush Exposes GOP Foreign Policy Incompetence

    ...Every time Trump truthfully states that George W. Bush did not keep Americans safe and embroiled the nation in two extremely costly and disastrous wars, he is criticizing and exposing the foreign policy aspirations of every Republican candidate for president. All of the Republican candidates have telegraphed their intent to repeat all of the catastrophic Bush policies, especially those in the Middle East; some have enlisted former Bush administration warmongers as foreign policy advisers.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/19/trumps-honest-criticism-george-w-bush-exposes-gop-candidates-incompetence.html


    Fox Hosts Tell Trump To Direct 9/11 Blame At Bill Clinton, Not Bush

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/brian-kilmeade-trump-bush-clinton-9-11

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  10. Anonymous10:09 AM

    This is a candidate who cannot campaign using his last name. That says it all.

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    1. Anonymous10:36 AM

      Try as he might, there is no getting away from the stench of Bush on Jeb!. He looks and acts as clueless as his brother. He must have thought he would have as easy a time of it as Georgie did, but that was BEFORE 9/11, and the other disasters of the Bush/Cheney cabal. Jeb! is proving that he agrees with the entire fiasco that was W's reign.

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  11. Anonymous10:51 AM

    GOP Presidential Field Split Apart By 9/11

    Fourteen years later, the 9/11 terrorist attacks have become a major issue in the GOP presidential race, dividing the candidates on who was responsible and what should have been done.

    On Sunday, Donald Trump continued to hammer former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush for repeatedly saying that his brother, former President George W. Bush, "kept us safe."

    "Jeb said, 'We were safe with my brother. We were safe.' Well, the World Trade Center just fell down," Trump said in an interview on "Fox News Sunday." "Now, am I trying to blame him? I'm not blaming anybody. But the World Trade Center came down. When he said we were safe, that's not safe. We lost 3,000 people. It was one of the greatest -- probably the greatest catastrophe in this country."

    When Bush allies talk about the former president's national security legacy, they tend to stress what happened after 9/11, even though the terrorist attacks also happened during his presidency.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/911-gop-race_56239d03e4b02f6a900ca1d8

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  12. Anonymous12:30 PM

    The Donald won't be POTUS BUT he surely is shaping the issues that need to be brought out into the open. This latest is one issue I want to see brought out into daylight.

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  13. Anonymous2:58 PM

    Bush's lackeys are going after Trump, bigtime!

    Fox’s Perino Rips Trump for Pushing ‘Liberal Conspiracy Theories’ on 9/11: ‘Lunatic’ Stuff

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-perino-rips-trump-for-pushing-liberal-conspiracy-theories-on-911-lunatic-stuff/

    Graham Bashes Trump Over 9/11 Remarks: He Has ‘No Clue’ What He’s Talking About

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/graham-bashes-trump-over-911-remarks-he-has-no-clue-what-hes-talking-about/

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    1. Anonymous5:27 PM

      Bushits are full of shit.

      Point that out and you are a lib!

      Except most of the Tea party has the same dislike of the Bushits.

      Please proceed Republicants, please proceed.

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  14. Anonymous3:03 PM

    Jeb Bush Tries To Explain Why His Brother Isn't To Blame For 9/11, But Hillary Is For Benghazi

    ...But, as Peter Beinart wrote in The Atlantic, "There’s no way of knowing for sure if Bush could have stopped the September 11 attacks. But that’s not the right question. The right question is: Did Bush do everything he could reasonably have to stop them, given what he knew at the time? And he didn’t. It’s not even close."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeb-bush-benghazi_5624ecffe4b08589ef47f89d

    Trump Is Right About 9/11

    George W. Bush didn’t do all he could to prevent the attack—and it’s time Republicans confronted that fact.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/did-george-w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/

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  15. Anonymous4:35 PM

    Damn, the Bush apologists are coming out in droves. Here's another 'warning' to Trump to lay off...and then you see the effect that it's having on Bush's numbers...in FLORIDA! No love for Trump, but he's nailing Bush where it's hurting him and that's a GOOD thing.

    Donald Trump takes a big risk in attacking Jeb Bush on 9/11

    Donald Trump has an incendiary new strategy for going after Jeb Bush: Attack George W. for failing to stop the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    The goal and potential payoff is clear: Take the former Florida governor off message and goad him into defending his brother, who left office as one of the most unpopular American presidents in memory and whose dynastic last name is an albatross around Jeb's neck.

    But Trump's latest feud carries serious risks, Republican strategists and pollsters warn. GOP primary voters still largely revere George W. Bush's handling of terrorism, they argue, even if many conservatives have problems with his free-spending ways.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-jeb-bush-george-214924

    Bush plummets to single digits in new Florida poll

    http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/florida/2015/10/8580134/bush-plummets-single-digits-new-florida-poll

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    1. Anonymous5:14 PM

      "Donald Trump takes a big risk in attacking Jeb Bush on 9/11" Yes, Trump took a big risk to "attack" "Jeb" Bush but not because of any of the reasons mentioned in this article. Do any of these readers remembered what happened to scores of 9/11 whistleblowers in the years immediately following 9/11? Hint: they were all murdered, usually in a grisly manner. That's often what happens to people who inconvenience the Bush crime family. Any of the readers remember that the Bush administration fought ANY official investigation of the 9/11 mass murder until the families of the 9/11 victims made such a stink about it that the Bush administration finally ordered the official whitewash ridiculous non-investigation that is full of technical errors and inconsistencies? Want a surprising glimpse behind the mass murderer's curtain? Google: "Methodical Illusion" by Rebekah Roth.

      Airline whistleblower solves 9/11

      A review of "Methodical Illusion" by Rebekah Roth

      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/31/airline911/

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  16. And remember -- This is the SMARTER brother.

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    1. Anonymous5:25 PM

      SMARTER...I'm not convinced....

      Dubya did apparently learn to fly a F102, can't imaging Jeb! qualifying to do that, or surviving that.

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  17. Anonymous4:50 PM

    I wish Jeb would watch this eight minute excerpt from the 911 hearing then tell the survivors families that his brother kept us safe. It's the tag line and all the republicans nod in agreement when it's said.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3BIKOqoHlU

    I'm in no way agreeing with Trump, but GWB kept his own butt safe while Cheny sat in a secret bunker with an ambulance parked across the street.

    The GOP should be ashamed, using the deaths of innocents and war for political points.

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  18. Anonymous4:52 PM

    Not sure if I left the link, it's well worth watching...... I apologize in advance if it's a repeat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3BIKOqoHlU

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  19. Anonymous5:20 PM

    George W. Bush unleashes on Ted Cruz

    The former president tells donors the junior Texas senator is a threat to Jeb.

    Inside a sleek Denver condominium, George W. Bush let a hundred donors to his brother’s campaign in on a secret. Of all the rival Republican candidates, there is one who gets under the former president’s skin, who he views as perhaps Jeb Bush’s most serious rival for the party’s nomination.

    It isn’t Donald Trump, whose withering insults have sought to make Jeb pay a political price for his brother’s presidency. It also isn’t Marco Rubio, Jeb’s former understudy who now poses a serious threat to his establishment support.

    It’s George W. Bush’s former employee — Ted Cruz.

    “I just don’t like the guy,” Bush said Sunday night, according to conversations with more than half a dozen donors who attended the event.

    One donor in the room said the former president had been offering mostly anodyne accounts of how the Bush family network views the current campaign and charming off-the-cuff jokes, until he launched into Cruz.

    “I was like, ‘Holy shit, did he just say that?’” the donor said. “I remember looking around and seeing that other people were also looking around surprised.”

    “The tenor of what he said about the other candidates was really pretty pleasant,” another donor said. “Until he got to Cruz.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jeb-bush-george-bush-donors-ted-cruz-214933

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  20. Anonymous5:41 PM

    Jeb! played a part in 9/11 just like his brother.
    Don't believe it? Look it up!

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