Sunday, November 01, 2015

Ben Carson's racist appeal revealed in all its disgusting detail on MSNBC's "Up" this morning.

Courtesy of Mediaite:  

On Sunday’s episode of Up, host Richard Lui asked Republican strategist and Irish Name Generator O’Brien Murray what Carson’s appeal was to a group of Republican voters, and Murray explained that Carson was a “black man attacking a black president.” Democratic strategist L. Joy Williams agreed, but put it in slightly different terms:Murray: It was his attack of Obama, and frankly a black man attacking a black president, which is something people get away… Williams: And that’s where we are. 

Murray: When you talk about it years ago, remember he stood in front of the president and he made his bona fides originally attacking the president face to face, at a prayer breakfast, mind you. 

…Williams: The really important thing of people supporting him because it’s, oh, there’s another black man commenting or — negatively against the president, and I don’t feel comfortable in doing so because of the race factor. So here’s someone who can do it that’s kind of — 

Murray: Not at all. The question was what was he doing. He was attacking the president, and he was going after him in such a way that was very well pointed out, where the issues were with the president with Obamacare and other things. Given his narrative and history and his bio, which is fantastic — 

Williams: Which is one n terms of having the, I was going to say, having the “safe negro” comment on someone that you’re against. 

Murray: No, not at all!

I actually watched this exchange this morning and I was nodding my head the entire time.

I think a lot of us have known for quite awhile that Carson's appeal was almost exclusively  connected to the fact that he criticized the President to his face during that prayer breakfast back in February.

Before that he was a relative unknown, and after that he was a conservative star.

And this did two things for the conservatives and the Republican party. It provided cover for their own racism, and it gave them their own, sorry but this is true, Uncle Tom to use as a surrogate for attacking the President and his policies.

Salon knows what I'm talking about:

White conservatives love Ben Carson, the black face in a high place, in a sea of white candidates, because his symbolic presence provides cover for the white supremacist politics endorsed by the post-civil rights era Republican Party.

And by the way, that is essentially almost the exact same reason that Carly Fiorina has the support she has as well. Only instead of President Obama, her target is Hillary Clinton. And instead of covering for the Republican party's racism, she is covering for its sexism.

So yes the Republicans use these tokens in their party as pawns to deflect criticism.

But if you think that Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, or even Ted Cruz are going to win this nomination, then you my friend have simply NOT been paying attention.

It is going to be a white guy. And you can take that to the bank.

36 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:40 PM

    I agree that the gop candidate for president will be a white guy. Even though carson and fiorina provide cover for the gop establishment as primary candidates, the racist and ignorant gop base will never vote for a black guy in the general election. Of course, they also won't vote for a black guy or a woman during the primary which is exactly why a white guy will take the nomination. And, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if that white guy ended up being mitt romney. I'm sure he still thinks it is his destiny to be president.

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    1. Anonymous5:15 PM

      I think it will be a white guy paired with a visually appealing, dumb as a box of rocks nobody. The GOP still thinks the McCain blunder was light years better than the Mitt muddle.

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  2. Anonymous4:51 PM

    I'm going to say this and it's what I really believe: some ( operative word) AfricN Anericans join the Reoublican Party so they get noticed. They stand out. Herman Cain, J.C. Watts, Ben Carson. The Republican Party is not favorable to African Americans, Hispanics, homosexuals, lesbians, etc. but if one joins that party, they certainly stand out and get attention. Just my thoughts.

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  3. Anonymous5:01 PM

    Ben Carson's "beliefs" are so out of the main stream, but no one calls it out. Carson's "beliefs" are paramount in his life, he says, so I think it is appropriate to question how he would maintain his spiritual purity AND also lead a nation of a multitude of beliefs. many of which are now national holidays, which Carson does not believe in.

    Not only are the GOPTPers racist, sexist, but also religious bigots. When will Carson be called upon to explain his "beliefs" and how they would affect his decisions as POTUS. That should be of interest to conservative GOPTPers, I'd think.

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    1. Anonymous6:59 PM

      But, his 'beliefs' are really of no interest to us...

      ... although it would be delicious schadenfreude if he is secretly Muslim tee hee.

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  4. Anonymous5:06 PM

    I was watching that too. How can a black woman, or any woman for that matter, be a Republican? The black woman on the panel of "experts" was saying some pretty unbelievable things. I question the sanity of the people who support their clown car candidates. They have no credibility to criticize the Democratic candidates.

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  5. Anonymous5:09 PM

    Well, try telling Rafael Ted Cruz he will not be the nominee. His daddy is a preacher and he talks to god and god said that Carnival is the anointed one and that he will be the President.

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  6. Anonymous5:35 PM

    Carly Fiorina serves the same purpose as a woman attacking both Obama and Hilary. Neither of them will be the nominee. They are just there to spew GOP crap while providing cover for the party's racism and sexism.

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  7. Anonymous5:37 PM

    Liars for a paycheck. If they actually believe the poop they're fling then eff them twice.

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  8. Anonymous6:41 PM

    Carson is an Oreo.

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    1. Anonymous8:10 PM

      Anonymous6:41 PM

      Carson is an Oreo.
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      Yep, he certainly is one of those. White supremacists love Oreo's.

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    2. Anonymous8:13 PM

      White supremacists love Oreo's because Oreo's say the derogatory things about Blacks that the white supremacists want to hear. The Oreo's keep the white supremacists entertained and nodding their heads in approval, as the Oreo trashes Black people..

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  9. Anonymous7:41 PM

    So basicall Gryph, if a black person doesn't behave, think, or act the way that you have decided they should as a black person... you label them as an uncle Tom, a token.

    Love it when liberals pretend to not be racist.

    You label them, and insinuate that they are not smart enough to make their own decisions. So basically the democrats own black people, is that it?

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    1. Reading comprehension not your thing I take it.

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    2. Anonymous7:54 PM

      Hi, Alicia @7:41

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    3. I love it when conservatives pretend to be clever.

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    4. Anonymous8:56 PM

      Alicia Mangelsdorf loves stalking Gryphen. Do your parents pretend to not be racist? They are liberals. Do you hate them also?

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    5. Doc Ryan8:56 PM

      Anonymous @7:54,

      What do you know? Who cares if "Alicia" posts here. If Gryphen doesn't like it he could block her. Your posts are just as annoying.

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    6. Anonymous9:34 PM

      @8:56 - Doc, you're adding so much with your valuable criticisms of me. Thanks for your key contributions! Signed with love, @7:54

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    7. Anonymous9:45 PM

      Yeah sure whatever Gryphen.

      You obviously know what is best for black people, and if they don't behave the way you feel they should, they are an uncle Tom. Got it.

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  10. Annabelle7:44 PM

    I feel sorry for Ben Carson. He's smart but then again, he's not. His religious beliefs overwhelm his intellect. The GOP is just using him.

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    1. Don't feel sorry for him - he chose to go with the party of hate - the party that thinks anyone other than white males should have no rights in these United States.

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  11. Anonymous7:59 PM

    Some people talk in their sleep, but Ben Carson sleeps when he talks! His eyes are closed more than half the time.
    Sooo slow.....could be a tension therapist to turtles.
    "State of the Union" would be an all nighter.

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    1. Anonymous3:48 AM

      He is sleep talking...
      If we wake him up will he die?

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  12. Anonymous8:00 PM

    '''But if you think that Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson, Marco Rubio, or even Ted Cruz are going to win this nomination, then you my friend have simply NOT been paying attention.'''

    I have been saying this to everyone.

    Also remember the Repubs token Black to attack President Obama four years ago was Herman Cain, and their token woman was Michele Bachmann.

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    1. Absolutely.

      And don't forget that the Republicans wanted Sarah Palin because they cynically believed that because she had a vagina she would pick all of the disenfranchised Hillary supporters in 2008.

      There is nothing new going on here.

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  13. Anonymous8:08 PM

    Annabelle7:44 PM

    I feel sorry for Ben Carson. He's smart but then again, he's not. His religious beliefs overwhelm his intellect. The GOP is just using him.
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    He is only smart about the brain. He knows nothing about anything else out of that. I bet Carson knows nothing about other countries or their leaders etc. Has he even met any leader of another nation? I have not heard that he has.

    When President Obama was running for president he traveled the world and met and got to know leaders of all the major nations.

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    1. Anonymous3:51 AM

      If Carson is so smart, how come he retired from neurosurgery and has had six cases of malpractice leveled against him?

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    2. "... if Carson the surgeon believes evolution is a hoax, where does he think the antibiotic-resistant bacteria that plague hospitals come from?"

      If asked this, would Carson slowly smile, close his eyes, and say he has pity for the questioner who doesn't have an open mind or heart? -- or would he reply, "Evolution is your opinion and I have mine."

      It's like fighting fog to debate him.

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    3. Anonymous7:05 AM

      I like the expression: "It's like fighting fog to debate him."
      Beaglemom

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  14. Anonymous8:30 PM

    Gryphen, this article will please you:

    http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/10/30/gop-and-the-rise-of-anti-knowledge/

    It summarizes so many points you've been making over the years, with special attention to the example of Ben Carson.

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  15. Black on black crime. Makes Whitey feel superior.

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  16. Anonymous3:27 AM

    I don't think that Ben Carson has a chance of winning the GOP nomination. He's useful to the GOP right now simply because he's their "proof" that the GOP isn't racist, hasn't been racist since the secret meeting on January 20, 2009. Stunning, don't you think? It seems to me that if Ben Carson had any respect for others of his race or if he had any self-respect he would not have fallen for this sham.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous1:01 PM

      Well said, Beaglemom. They are using him to make people think the GOP is not racist. Just like they used Herman Cain 4 years ago.
      And how they used Colin Powell and Condolezza Rice, by giving them top offices in the Bush Adm, to trick Blacks into thinking the GOP is not racist, in order to lure Black voters.

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  17. Anonymous3:32 PM

    When I think of Ben Carson, or see him speak, I don't really see much critical thought going on, he's got the appeal of a tomato without salt and looks like his own speech is hypnotizing him. Nothing to do with race, it's just the impression he gives. Doesn't seem able to think quickly on his feet like, say, Jeb Bush or Donald Trump.

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