Courtesy of the Guardian:
Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led a standoff with the federal government in 2014, wants the protesters in Oregon to stand their ground – directly defying the message of his son, Ammon.
Days after militia leader Ammon Bundy, now in jail in Portland, Oregon, called on the final four occupiers at the Malheur national wildlife refuge to surrender and go home, the elder Bundy sent a letter to government officials declaring that the armed militia would not be backing down.
“This is notice that We the People of Harney County and also We the People of the citizens of the United States DO GIVE NOTICE THAT WE WILL RETAIN POSSESSION OF THE HARNEY COUNTY RESOURCE CENTER,” Cliven wrote in the letter, which he sent on Monday to the local sheriff, Oregon governor Kate Brown, and the White House.
Apparently the protesters renamed the refuge the "Harney County Resource Center" because...because they're assholes that's why.
Bundy also said this in an interview:
“What this is saying is that Cliven Bundy is taking control of things,” Cliven said in an interview from his ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada, on Monday afternoon. “If we don’t retain it, then we’ve lost everything that we’ve done in the last two months. We’re not gonna give up.”
He added: “This is not Ammon’s message. This is my message ... We’ve made a decision to retain it ... The feds are going to get out of there.”
Bundy does not believe that his son's statement is real and thinks that it was released under duress.
I have little doubt that this will inspire more people to join these idiots, and that means it is only a matter of time before somebody else gets shot and killed.
Which seems to be exactly what Bundy and his supporters are hoping will happen.
Singer your crazy racist fat old ass to Oregon Cliven. You've got no skin in the game you are trying to control now.
ReplyDeleteYou called it. He is a busy body .
DeleteHe is also a taker and bully!
Pay you grazing fees like the rest of us that raise cattle for a living , quit whining and STFU!
Cliven Bundy recently visited the family of deceased Levoy Finicum in Cane, Az which is a hotbed of polygamist Mormons.
DeleteEasy for that piece of shit moocher to tell the others to stay put.
ReplyDeleteAuthorities need to drive on out to Cliven Bundy's ranch and arrest him for sedition. He's a rabble-rouser of the worst order.
ReplyDeleteCharge him with sedition and theft and let him sit. Perhaps he can use some of his "unpaid" grazing fees cash for bail money.
If they haven't, they need to seal him up in his ranch, freeze any financial accounts he has, seize anything he sends out to market till the bills are paid, and whittle away at him bit by bit, while he stews away on his wretched fiefdom.
DeleteM from MD
Seems he could be hit with a charge of inciting insurrection as well.
Delete"Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
Cliven; the inbred whom hasn't paid his grazing fees in forever, the same guy who can no longer sell his cattle on account the USDA will not approve his cattle for the market.
ReplyDeleteOther than that, a great guy to take *advice* from...
Didn't know that! Perfect solution.
DeleteDoes make one wonder: how is he able to stay afloat?
DeletePolygamists are inbred
DeleteHow are they allowed to continue this? They should have been smoked out long ago!
ReplyDeleteI would guess that as soon as the remaining four terrorists are cleared from Malheur, that Mr Cliven Bundy will be arrested and charged with conspiracy under RICO.
ReplyDeleteArchie Butt
I've lived in Oregon all my life and I never voted for this guy--nor has any other resident of Oregon. What right does he have to try to control our resources in this state?
ReplyDeleteThe same right he has not to pay the grazing fees. None. He's a selfish and opportunistic POS. They should seize and auction off his ranch to pay the fees he hasn't paid.
DeleteHe looks far too stupid to be a Constitutional scholar.
ReplyDeleteI see it as a "best use" for a piece of heretofore underutilized property. A North American Gulag, a refrigerated isolation cell holding some fucked up cowboys. We don't even have to feed them.
ReplyDeleteAll we have to do is pretend we want them to leave!
"Yes you're winning now, you yippi-ky-oh retards"
...while freezing their balls off. Does anyone know how they're getting food? I'd hope they can't receive deliveries.
DeleteIt is not underutilized. It IS a bird sanctuary... a safe place to stop and rest and feed a bit before continuing migration for hundreds of species.
DeleteIf you let these poaching outlaws remain, they'll shoot at anything moving, no matter how edible or how rare.
The sooner the last of the rabble are cleared out and jailed, the sooner OUR Fish and Wildlife employees can repair the damage and make the Refuge safe and open again to the scientists, to the public, and to the wild critters who rely upon it.
The bill for repair and restoration ought to come out of the Bundy's hides. I suggest forced and lengthy community service.
The remaining four people in the refuge are coming across as NOT particularly intelligent in the live feed video I saw. The live feed did have plenty of talk about the beer and the marijuana available.
ReplyDeleteSeems like the government forces could drop in a few discrete bugging devices, then mop up that crew when they are all happy on pot.
....and yet Clive isn't there.
ReplyDeleteYeah...come on over Cloven. We the people gotta room waiting for you at the Portland Graybar Hotel right in between Ammon and Ryan. They told me they was missin' their daddy.
ReplyDeleteSheesh
Shouldn't Cliven be in prison from the last stand-off over federal land?
ReplyDeleteBeaglemom
Yes, but he's white so he's walking around talking to the media instead.
DeleteDarwinism at work. Excellent.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to the day this ass clown loses his ranch due to back taxes.
ReplyDeleteSurround the outpost and smoke the first one of them that levels a rifle. They want martyrdom, give it to 'em.
ReplyDeleteI think someone needs a box of dildos.
ReplyDeleteCloven Bundy
PO box 7175
Bunkerville, NV 89007
Batteries, too!
DeleteAnd let us pause to give thanks to Ol' Cliven for being so awesomely stupid as to post online a copy of a letter he sent to everybody demanding that the Feds relinquish their ownership of the Malheur Refuge. A letter with his PO Box address on it!
Think of those poor cows: send some blow up dolls too.
DeleteSeek and you shall find. Toss some firecrackers their way and they'll play circular firing squad. Where's Sarah and her "Will this thing kick, daddy?" These folks desperately need her leadership, wisdom, and hawk eye aim.
ReplyDeleteGo, Sarah! You'll get air time and suck all the news cycle your way. Show them how it's done!
This is O/T but not to be missed!
ReplyDeleteSarah Palin's latest hunt? A scapegoat for her family's problems, and she's got her sights set on President Obama
As Sarah Palin, wearing the chandelier from Grand Prospect Hall in Brooklyn, stood next to Donald Trump at a campaign stop last week, her son Track was being arrested for punching his girlfriend in the face while brandishing an assault rifle at Sarah’s home.
But it’s not her fault that her son beat the crap out of his lover or that her daughter Bristol has had more kids out of wedlock than a Kardashian.
Whose fault is it? It’s all President Obama’s fault. After all, Sarah is a good, conservative Christian lady. But that secret Muslim, Barack Obama? He did it.
She blamed the President for Track’s assault on his girlfriend because he apparently didn’t care enough for veterans such as her son after they returned from Iraq.
Palin implies that even as the mother of this dysfunctional brood she remains blameless. Blameless, but hardly clueless. Sarah’s as slippery as a skinned snake on an ice slick.
Palin said the soldier’s “woundedness” (not her son’s violence) was the real elephant in the room. She said this while speaking to a roomful of elephants (as opposed to donkeys).
Or we think that’s what she said, since she’s taken to speaking in tongues or maybe in tongue-tieds. Whatever it is, she’s making less sense, if possible, than she did while destroying John McCain’s shot at the presidency.
Maybe Palin can’t see Iraq from her other window and that’s the problem, but wasn’t it President George W. who created the fake Iraq war that her son volunteered for in the first place? Even her new best friend Trump blasts Bush as the man who destabilized the Middle East by invading Iraq.
But as crazy as she is, and as savvy as Donald Trump is, this odd couple has much more in common than you’d imagine.
Like? Like when Gov. Sarah Palin endorsed aerial assault of helpless animals by advocating the shooting of wolves and bears from planes and helicopters.
And since Palin brought up the elephant in the room, the Trumps and Palins have those big beasts in-the-room in common, too.
Brothers Donald Trump, Jr. (left) and Eric Trump (right) are pictured with a leopard that they killed on their trip to Zimbabwe.
In 2012, Trump’s sons went on an exotic animal kill safari in Africa, and proudly posed with their fresh kill, including the bloody, severed tail of an elephant, a slaughtered African leopard, a dead water buffalo and an alligator they hung from a noose.
Sarah, too, not just loves to pose with her fresh kill but this poor ole country gal spends almost as much money to do it as the Trumps. Her caribou hunting trip — which she said was used to feed her family — cost a mere $42,400, or $141.33 per pound of meat, according to “Hollywood Life.”
Problem is, if she keeps showing up at Trump’s side to hype herself, her next fresh kill could end up being Donald Trump’s presidential ambitions.
Palin is as fast and efficient at killing off presidential campaigns as a helicopter hunter with an assault rifle chasing a wolf as it flees for its life.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/stasi-sarah-palin-hunting-scapegoat-family-article-1.2507199
THIS IS IMPORTANT!
ReplyDeleteWhile all the hoopla was happening around the Iowa story, this is what the fucking GOP were up to and ONCE AGAIN, the Democrats and our President have held the fire wall. It is so critical that we keep the White House out of the hands of these tyrants.
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Obama (and the American people) Triumphs As House Republicans Fail To Override Obamacare Repeal Veto
The 64th time was not the charm for House Republicans as Democrats stood tall and denied them the needed majority to override the President’s veto of the bill to repeal Obamacare.
The final vote was 241-186. Republicans needed Democratic votes to repeal the ACA and defund Planned Parenthood, but there was no chance that it was ever going to happen.
Earlier in the day, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan was absolutely giddy and could not contain his excitement over the possibility of taking health insurance away from 22 million Americans if Republicans win the White House.
Ryan said, “Regardless of the outcome today, this fight will not end here! We have now forged a path — that is a clear path — to repealing Obamacare without 60 votes in the Senate.” The endgame for Republicans is the same. They are out to prove that they can harm tens of millions of Americans through the legislative process.
As usual, there was little mention of a Republican plan to replace Obamacare. There is no Republican plan to replace the ACA. The GOP’s plan is to take the health insurance system back to the bad old days when patients had no rights, premiums were exploding, and coverage was at the whim of the insurance company.
President Obama won today, but the stakes for presidential election have been clearly laid out for all to see. Obama has been the firewall that stops Republicans from implementing their harmful agenda. 2016 will literally be a life or death election for thousands of Americans because a Republican president could be hazardous to your health.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/02/obama-triumphs-house-republicans-fail-override-obamacare-repeal-veto.html
And here is how giddy Paul Ryan was about the possibility of killing OCare.
Paul Ryan Gets Giddy Over Taking Healthcare Away From 20 Million Americans
...“We put a bill on the President’s desk to repeal Obamacare and defund Planned Parenthood,” Speaker Ryan announced proudly.
So that’s taking healthcare away from millions with no plan to replace it. Also, there is no reason to defund Planned Parenthood; they were cleared of all charges surrounding the deceptively edited videos Republicans continue to base their sham investigations on.
“Today we will have a vote to override the President’s veto of this bill. We are taking this all of the way to the end of the process,” Ryan vowed stoically.
“We are taking this all the way to the end of the process under our Constitution,” Ryan told reporters. One can almost picture him waving his copy of Atlas Shrugged for emphasis. “Regardless of the outcome today, this fight will not end here! We have now forged a path — that is a clear path — to repealing Obamacare without 60 votes in the Senate.”
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/02/paul-ryan-giddy-healthcare-20-million-americans.html
Sickening.
DeleteI read today that the prosecutors said all of these guys have extensive criminal records prior to this and that this is the fringe of the sewer ponds. Bundy's "Fleet Business" in az along with affiliates?. Transportation... Truckers? Railroad? UPS, Schools, and 17yrs in business? hmmm? This group should have been stopped in 2014.
ReplyDeleteYep, they should have identified his many assets and froze or seized them.
DeleteIf Cliven Bundy would stop being a punk and went down there, maybe he could be a martyr too. Wouldn't that be nice, instead of ruining other's lives.
ReplyDeletephuck em,, if they show up, then they can deal with what happens.
ReplyDeletebill in belize
This fellow isn't very bright in addition to being a crazy old coot.
ReplyDeleteThe man is a racist idiot.
ReplyDeleteOK, Cliven, you first.
ReplyDeleteThe elephant in the room.. These asswipe are polygamists. Lavoy's ranch is in capes end.. Pop <500. On the Utah border.. 2.5 miles.. What is it called? Colorado city?
ReplyDeleteBunkerville is a well known polygamist settlement.
But the proof is in the way LDS official have back pedaled the fuck away from these guys... They wouldn't do that if they were acceptable lds.
Bingo. The self-entitled polygamists are inbred and have a history of sucking off the gov't ibn every which way.
DeleteAlthough it is not a new book, I recently came across "Under the Banner of Heaven," by Jonathan Krakauer (sp?). I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the history of LDS fundamentalists out west (and their conflicts with the government).
ReplyDeleteThese asshats care about no one and nothing beyond the tip of their noses.
ReplyDeleteWho the hell does he think he is?
ReplyDeleteI'm a citizen of the United States and HE DOESN'T SPEAK FOR ME!
I didn't elect him to anything.
You remember elections, don't you Cliven? Where we elect our representatives according to the Constitution? So, Cliven, are you ignoring or supercedeing the Constitution and making yourself Dictator of the United States for life?
What would that be? Insurrection? Treason?
Too bad Obama is closing Gitmo. I think we have some legitimate inmates for it in the Bundy clan, friends and associates.
And let me add that all of this could have been avoided if the Feds had followed through at Cliven's ranch stand off by seizing his assets for back grazing fee payments, putting a lien on the ranch and all of Cliven's assets for the remainder, and throwing every rebellious, criminal ass in jail (and then prison) that fired upon Federal officers.
They were given the rope and were hanging themselves, then the Feds simply cut them down and gave them a little pat on the ass and said, naughty, naughty, don't do it again, okay? And what do they do? They go to Oregon and DO IT AGAIN.
This time get it right.
Put a black hood on him and he is a dead ringer for the Emperor in Star Wars.
ReplyDeleteHas the bundy family served in the usa military? Why do they feel they do not owe grazing fees? Why are the moronies defending the ignorance? This appears to be nothing more than a family with ties to defunk losers on the road to nowhere.
ReplyDelete"We the people..."
ReplyDelete"We the people???"
He doesn't represent ME!
"We the people" my ass...
Cliven Bundy has never been elected to anything.
Fuck HIM.
So f'ing sad, and very scary, how brainwashed these people are from a very young age: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/christian-singer-tells-cnn-shes-willing-to-die-for-lavoy-finicums-beliefs-if-i-lose-my-life-its-worth-it
ReplyDeleteFu** him... Roll him up in a tarp and leave him in the desert..
ReplyDeleteThese are not protesters nor a militia,they are terrorists.
ReplyDeleteOne way to get them out fast-play one of Sarah's speeches 24/7. They will surrender subito.
Sorry, 10:13, but that might be unConstitutional, falling under the "cruel and unusual punishment" ban. Then again, since it wouldn't necessarily fall under the actual heading of punishment - since they haven't been tried yet - maybe....
DeleteActually, I see only two problems with the idea, now that I look at it more closely. First, it would be cruel to the authorities having to watch the place and, second, would destroy the usability of the place because it would chase ALL the wild critters away for decades.
Snark.