Thursday, March 03, 2016

Largest study ever finds that gun control laws do indeed reduce the number of gun related fatalities. Gee, really?

Courtesy of Science Alert:

 As the US continues to stall on gun control talks, the largest study ever conducted on the topic has found a clear link between firearm regulation and fewer gun-related deaths around the world. 

Until now, studies on gun laws have been limited to just one city or country, and have failed to reach consistent conclusions. But the new research took a broader view - the team reviewed 130 high-quality studies conducted in 10 countries over the past 60 years. And while they stopped short of saying they've conclusively proved that gun restrictions equal fewer deaths, the research provides pretty powerful evidence to suggest that it's the case. 

"Across countries, instead of seeing an increase in the homicide rate, we saw a reduction," lead researcher Julian Santaella-Tenorio from Columbia University told Zack Beauchamp over at Vox. 

To figure this out, Santaella-Tenorio and his team systematically analysed 130 studies that had been conducted across 10 different countries, including the US, Australia, Brazil, South Africa, and Austria. 

Each of the studies looked at some kind of specific gun legislation change, and its impact on gun-related homicides, suicides, and/or unintentional injuries or deaths, and was carefully selected for the quality of its research.

You know the only reason that this has to be proven by a study is due to the effectiveness of the  NRA's misinformation campaign.

In my opinion every gun death that happens in this country can be laid at the feet of the NRA and the politicians who they bullied into compliance.

We are dying by the thousands, and if this were simply a disease we would be holding telethons three times a year to raise money to fight it.


  1. Damage is done though when you have a 100 million guns or more that most will refuse to give up.

    YES we need gun control!!!

    Nothing is going to make this any better anytime soon.

    Tired of sucking on the hind teat with this and all the other issues of the crazy's on the Right.

  2. Anonymous5:41 AM

    It's important to hold gun manufacturers and sellers as well as gun owners responsible.

  3. Anonymous5:50 AM

    I don't know if this is true, but I hear that the Congress is full of NRA members, this is why we never see any gun control.

    1. Anonymous7:58 AM

      It's full of people getting campaign contributions from the NRA. That makes them NRA whores. Gun victims be damned.

  4. Anonymous5:53 AM

    '''In my opinion every gun death that happens in this country can be laid at the feet of the NRA and the politicians who they bullied into compliance.'''

    Again, I don't know if this is true, but word is, many politicians are being paid-off to do the bidding for the NRA.

    1. Anonymous3:24 PM

      So, in essence, you're agreeing with what Gryphen posted, but haven't realized it yet.

  5. Leland6:31 AM

    The people who scream the loudest against gun control - and I'm talking to you, Wayne! - are the ones who refuse to acknowledge that when SCOTUS handed down the decision that says the 2nd Amendment DOES mean individual rights, it also stipulated the government has the right to reasonably CONTROL those rights.

    And until this is slammed home to them - HARD! - they will continue to scream.

  6. Leland6:43 AM

    The above numbers may be impressive, but until they are broken down to a per capita ratio, they are only big numbers. BAD numbers, to be sure, but numbers, nonetheless. So I ran some calculations for us.

    In Australia, the death rate is one for every 660,857.
    In Canda, the death rate is one for every 175,800.
    In the US, the death rate is one in 3362.

    Yeah, that's right, one in THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED SIXTY TWO! More than 16 TIMES the rate in Canada, for instance.

    THOSE numbers MEAN something! And it ain't good.

    1. Anonymous8:14 AM

      Your math is wrong by a factor of 10.

      It is approx 1 in 33,885 (est pop 321,368,864)

    2. Leland9:37 AM

      @ 8:14

      Oops! You're right. I just noticed the calculator I used won't accept nine digits so it was off by what you say. Sorry about that.

      That's STILL one HELLUVA bad number, though!!

  7. Anonymous7:20 AM

    9,484 gun deaths in the Untied States in just one year is GOOD news. That means we ARE #1 in something after all.

    1. Anonymous7:59 AM

      The word is ACKCEPSHUNALl!!1!!1

    2. We're also #1 in incarcerations.

  8. Anonymous8:07 AM

    When I was kid back in the 60's watching westerns featuring so many gunslingers (good guys and bad guys and everyone in between) on TV, I used to feel so glad that I didn't live in those times when you ever knew when a gunfight that might take you out too if you were close enough might break out.

    Little did I know. Those NRA whores in Congress who pretend to kiss the Constitution's ass while they bend over for the NRA are presiding over the destruction of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. EVIL MONEYGRUBBING FUCKERS.

  9. Anonymous9:19 AM

    Almost funny, but NOT>

  10. I think there's more to it than that.

    I think those countries have a different mindset when it comes to disagreements.

    I think Americans are quicker to resort to violence to settle disagreements and have more anger management issues.

    I'd like to see some statistics comparing other violence.

    Do they have more fistfights or less? If more, then they are substituting one form for another. If less, then it is an indication that they settle their differences less violently than we do.

    It is no secret Americans have more access to guns and grab a gun as a solution to everything.

    We we need to do is separate out the accidental deaths from the terrorist deaths (like Sandy Hook, et al.) from the deaths a result of crimes like robbery.

    We also need to start accepting studies and data from sources other than the government since the Republicans have successfully blocked any government studies of gun violence.

    I notice none of my comments on the Bristol post showed up. I'd like to know why my comments appear on every thread except for the Bristol ones. If you won't do it publicly, at least send me an e-mail so I won't waste my time making comments that will be CENSORED.

  11. Anita Winecooler3:36 PM

    One is one too many. There's no easy answer, but I think we can begin with teaching people how to be civil, how to argue their point effectively, and to think before going for a gun, to think before keeping a loaded unlocked weapon anywhere in a house and stop the bullshit excuses when something DOES happen that the gun "Just went off" "it was an accident" or "I forgot to check the chamber and thought the gun was empty". We need to address gun control laws and make them more restrictive. And we need to stop blaming mental illness as the only problem that needs addressing when it comes to killing people.


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