Tuesday, April 19, 2016

New ad compares Bernie Sanders to FDR. Really?

Courtesy of The Hill: 

The Bernie Sanders campaign is comparing the presidential candidate to Franklin D. Roosevelt in a new ad released just days before the New York primary. 

“Even when the deck is stacked, a New Yorker will find a way to break up big banks, create millions of jobs and rebuild America,” the narrator says over footage of the 32nd president, a New York native. 

“Some say it can’t be done again,” the ad continues. “But another native son of New York is ready: Bernie. Rebuild the middle class, make Wall Street banks pay their fair share, give every child a chance.”

Well so much for Bernie Sanders having no ego.

Damn that is a ballsy move.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt of course was in office for three terms, implemented the New Deal, and oversaw America's participation in a second World War.

Sanders might as well compare himself to Jesus while he's at it.

97 comments:

  1. Anonymous6:28 AM

    Frankly, I have had it with Bernie Sanders. He's not a Democrat; he's not at all interested in electing Democrats to any position. He's not even running as a Democrat in his home state, where he hopes to win reelection to the Senate. Then he'd be the first president whose a senator at the same time. His campaign is suing the Democratic Party because his opponent for the nomination is sharing the proceeds of her fundraising with the rest of the party, something that President Obama did in 2008 and 2012.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous7:56 AM

      Once again, I agree with Beaglemom.

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    2. Anonymous8:35 AM

      Add me to the list. I'm extremely disappointed with Sanders. He is the Trump of the left and many of his Millennials are slackers who want a revolution for revolution's sake and everything free (for them). This pie-in-the-sky crap Trump & Sanders are selling to youngsters is bullcrap.

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    3. Anonymous10:16 AM

      If he claims to be so like FDR how come Bernie never was a Democrat?

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    4. Anonymous10:54 AM

      many of his Millennials
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      don't know or care who FDR was, they want FREE college !!!

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  2. Anonymous6:33 AM

    Yes, very far fetched attempt to compare FDR with Bernie Sanders. But, hey, you gotta try everything I suppose.

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  3. That's exactly what I've been thinking...his ego is quickly eclipsing his initial reasons for running. Well, that's not fair as I guess I have no earthly idea what he was thinking initially. And I don't really know what he's thinking now, but I sure as heck think he has an inflated sense of self.

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    1. Anonymous7:36 AM

      Like Sara Pee KKKlan and this piece of shit Grift, Grift, Grift. $$$. Sanders is in- That is the GAME!>
      http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/19/donald-trump-s-right-that-the-game-is-rigged-for-him-to-make-money-by-running.html

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  4. Anonymous6:37 AM

    Who is this man? I've never seen a decent dude turn into a bigger egomaniac than Bernie.

    SO glad to see him burning every bridge he crosses, whether it's with POC, women or the party he is trying to be the nominee of.

    Go away old man. I've studied FDR -- and you're no FDR.

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    1. Anonymous10:20 AM

      He hasn't changed at all, you just didn't know anything about him until now.

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  5. Anonymous6:38 AM

    Did he not meet Jesus last week? Fuck this FAKE r..

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    1. Anonymous8:22 AM

      Seems Hillary claimed she landed while under heavy fire in Bosnia...

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    2. Anonymous9:20 AM

      Nothing compared to Bernie's planned manufactured "production".

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    3. Anonymous9:24 AM

      8:22 - then why did FDR --oops, I mean, Bernie vote to confirm her as Secretary of State after that, and then praise her on the job?

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  6. Anonymous6:42 AM

    I've had it with the Bernie bashing.
    As a lifetime scholar of FDR, Sanders' ad is not at all far-fetched. He's certainly the only candidate, including HRC, who even comes close.
    Gryphen, since you've abandoned the GOP circus and now use this site, as is your right, to stump for Clinton, I'll check you out much less frequently. As a Democratic site, you're interesting, showing the underside of the Republicans. As a Clinton ad buy, you're not at all interesting.

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    1. Outside of their both being advocated for Social programs and protection of Social Security - what else do they have in common?
      http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/facts/

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    2. sorry should be advocates for social....

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    3. Lifetime FDR scholar? Oh please.

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    4. Anonymous7:26 AM

      My father interviewed Eleanor and wrote a book about her. I wrote a long and extensive college thesis on FDR's two terms as NY governor, (1929-33) back in the '60s. I'll show you my shelves of books, and take you for a behind-the-scenes tour of Hyde Park. Just say the word.
      And be sure to say "please."

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    5. Anonymous8:00 AM

      The problem is that Bernie is NOT a real Democrat. Democrats do not appreciate all the right wing lies of Bernie, nor his disparagement of the Democratic Party. So if you don't understand why we don't like a guy who's been a Democrat for 10 minutes suing the party and wasting valuable resources we need for the General Eoection, then I guess you're probably not a Democrat either.

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    6. Anonymous8:28 AM

      8:00,
      I really don't like this "real democrat" purity test. That being said, it is disingenuous at best, and duplicitous and hypocritical, at worst for Sanders to be running for the leader of the DNC and using the DNC platform, while scorning the DNC, not helping the down ticket candidates and then trashing his opposition who helped build the party that he is now stepping on in his sudden ambition for the Oval Office.

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    7. Thanks, @8:28 - you just proved my point that Bernie is not a real Democrat, esp. since he's registered as an Independent for his next and inevitable Senate run.

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    8. Anonymous9:28 AM

      Bravo 8am and 8:28am.

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  7. Anonymous6:51 AM

    I like the Bern and America needs the Bern. He stands up for America. He is a true Independent. He has a different approach. And that is ok. Hilary is also a good candidate! But the possible "President Sanders" the peoples president of 2016 is ok too!!

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    1. Anonymous7:56 AM

      When the Bern has to deal with a defiant Congress, it will be the American people getting burned.

      Neither Sanders or Clinton has much prospect of getting a cooperative Congress, but Sanders personality makes him very ill-equipped to handle that.

      I've watched Sanders since the mayor days. He loves to fight, doesn't care if it accomplishes anything.

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    2. Anonymous8:01 AM

      I no longer like the Bern. In fact, I need cooling aloe veracity.

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    3. Anonymous8:31 AM

      If he were a true independent he would have run on his principles and run AS an Independant.

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    4. Anonymous8:40 AM

      You are SO right 7:56. Repubs will chew him up and spit him out and he'll be yelling. All his supporters will become very disappointed and the Dems will be laughed at all over the world. His ego has taken over. He just wants to win. Then what? Can you imagine it? Ugh, scary!

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  8. My internet went down when I went to publish this comment earlier so apologies if this is a duplicate:

    I know I might get slammed for this but, if Bernie Sanders is so proud to be a native son of New York why didn't he run for office in New York? Why go to Vermont for his political career?

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    1. Anonymous7:10 AM

      Why did Hillary run for senator from NY? Same reason.

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    2. Anonymous7:24 AM

      He went to Vermont to live, for quite a while, before he went into politics.
      Hillary simply schemed to take over Daniel Patrick Moynihan's seat when he announced he was retiring. He was not pleased.

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    3. Anonymous7:27 AM

      I'm not a Sanders fan, but I don't have a problem with it.

      I do have a problem with the fact that he's been living in progressive paradise up there in Vermont and doesn't seem to understand or care that he would need a lot of other Democrats to get anything done.

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    4. Anonymous8:04 AM

      Kerry, some say that he was part of "white flight" from the area in the '60's. Others say he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond (VT) versus a small fish in a big pond (NY). And still others say he went to live the hippie commune life in VT.

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    5. Anonymous8:13 AM

      Hippy/commune is the answer.

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  9. Anonymous7:11 AM

    Bernie 2016!

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    1. Anonymous8:05 AM

      I will never forgive Bernie for slamming President Obama. Never.

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    2. I too am having trouble overlooking that.

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    3. Anonymous8:20 AM

      Have you forgotten that Hillary was the first to raise the brother and furthered Muslim implications against President Obama?

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    4. Anonymous8:24 AM

      BIRTHER, NOT BROTHER.

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    5. Anonymous8:25 AM

      820am, what's your point? Oh right, you don't have one....

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    6. Anonymous8:34 AM

      I can't tell for sure what you mean, @8:20. If you meant "Birther," no. That's a lie. From Politifact: "There is no record that Clinton herself or anyone within her campaign ever advanced the charge that Obama was not born in the United States. A review by our fellow fact-checkers at Factcheck.org reported that no journalist who investigated this ever found a connection to anyone in the Clinton organization.

      Clinton, herself, answered this very accusation after Trump's tweet during an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon. Lemon asked Clinton if she started smear campaigns that Obama was born outside the United States.

      "That is – no. That is so ludicrous, Don. You know, honestly, I just believe that, first of all, it’s totally untrue, and secondly, you know, the president and I have never had any kind of confrontation like that," Clinton said. "You know, I have been blamed for nearly everything, that was a new one to me."

      So FALSE! Thanks for playing.

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    7. Anonymous8:48 AM

      As he has shown, Bernie can not be trusted to support Democrats. I don't trust him not to change his mind. I feel like his wife probably has an applause meter in her purse and let's him know every night what slogans got the most sound. Then they make sure to turn that into bumper-sticker promises.

      We need someone with a steady hand and with experience working across the aisle and with world leaders. That definitely is not Bernie the egotistical, back-stabbing grouch.

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  10. Anonymous7:15 AM

    FDR was not a good president. I'd never call anyone a bad person no matter who it is. But

    And it's boiling my blood to hear DEMOCRATS slam Bernie for being an idealized socialist when the same democrats fought for Obama when GOP was slamming him as a socialist. We all know he isn't one (I don't think he has a political identity. He certainly has no specific convictions like Bernie)

    But that hypocrisy BURNS, people. BURNS.

    I will add that it is dangerous for Bernie to group all wealthy people together. There is nothing wrong with being a billionaire. There is nothing wrong with not being over the top altruistic because people think you should share.

    What is wrong is the methods CEOs obtain wealth. Orgs like Clinton Foundation have been scrutinized for years. If it were anyone else, the media wouldn't let it slide.

    But besides that, the fact is it is wrong to make money on US soil and hide it away in the Caymans.

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    1. Anonymous7:33 AM

      I have no problem with socialism.

      If Sanders were to become the nomination, the GOP will make it their central criticism (along with raising taxes).

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    2. Anonymous 7:15 AM wrote: Orgs like Clinton Foundation have been scrutinized for years. If it were anyone else, the media wouldn't let it slide.

      “If there were anything corrupt to be found there, the media wouldn't let it slide.”

      There—fixed it for you.

      Language note: Being “scrutinized” doesn't in itself mean there's something wrong. It means that someone is hoping to find something wrong. Like Trey Goudy, for example.

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    3. You lost me with "FDR was not a good President".

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    4. Anonymous8:06 AM

      After sending five figures to the IRS yesterday I wish I'd figured out how to stash some money in the Caymans :-)

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    5. Anonymous8:32 AM

      Ted Powell misses the point yet again.

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    6. Anonymous8:36 AM

      There is a difference between telling you that the GOP will slam him for it and actually slamming for it.

      We say this because the Sanders campaign keeps bringing up how well he polls against Clinton. When Sanders has withstood the kind of attacks that Clinton has, THEN let's talk about poll numbers.

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    7. Anonymous8:50 AM

      Obama never claimed to be a socialist. That label was put on him by the GOP. Bernie supports socialism to the nth degree - Russian & hippy commune style. Bernie is no Obama.

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    8. Anonymous 8:32 AM wrote (in full): Ted Powell misses the point yet again.

      My point was that people have been “scrutinizing” the Clintons for decades, and really have not come up with anything cosmically significant. If that wasn't your point, my heart bleeds for you.

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    9. Anonymous9:11 AM

      Ted Powell still hasn't learned not to butt in with his stupid (and typically wrong) opinions.

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    10. Anonymous9:55 AM

      Just because you don't understand Ted's point, doesn't mean it's wrong.

      And, by the way, when you post something on an open message board, people who respond aren't "butting in."

      If you want to have a private conversation, find some friends...if you can.

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    11. Anonymous11:56 AM

      Ted Powell bleeds.

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    12. Anonymous12:05 PM

      Miriam Webster:
      to examine (something) carefully especially in a critical way

      Ted Powell:
      Being “scrutinized” doesn't in itself mean there's something wrong. It means that someone is hoping to find something wrong.

      Accuracy is important.

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    13. Anonymous 11:56 AM wrote (in full): Ted Powell bleeds.

      I used to. BUt after five weeks of radiation therapy at a British Columbia Cancer Centre, I've been tumour-free for over two years. I was told this would have cost someone not under BC Med about $150,000. For me, besides my very affordable BC Med premiums, it was the cost of local bus fare each day. They are now checking me every three months, again at the cost of $1.75 bus fare each time.

      Anonymous 12:05 PM wrote: Miriam Webster: [sic] … Accuracy is important.

      I'm sure Mr. Merriam would agree with you. :-)

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    14. Anonymous8:18 AM

      The word "scrutinize" does not mean someone is hoping something.

      Unless you are Ted Powell.

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    15. Anonymous8:21 AM

      Ted Powell says "my heart bleeds for you".

      Trite.

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    16. Anonymous 8:18 AM wrote: The word "scrutinize" does not mean someone is hoping something.

      True but irrelevant. What I wrote at 7:39 AM was: Being “scrutinized” … means that someone is hoping to find something wrong. in response to the claim by Anonymous 7:15 AM that the mere fact of scrutiny of the Clinton Foundation meant there was something wrong.

      When someone or something is being scrutinized, it does usually mean that the scrutineer is looking for something wrong, your claim to the contrary.

      I've been reading and writing English since some time in the mid-1940s, so please spare me your silly word games. I'll be on the road for the next several days with just a rather small laptop, so I probably won't notice if you persist in this foolishness.

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    17. Anonymous1:42 PM

      Ted Powell is younger than me. His experience in reading and writing English is less than mine. His foolishness in silly word games exceeds mine.

      Ted Powell will persist in posting his unwelcome and incorrect language tips because his ego surpasses his education.

      Ted Powell is just another bragging internet twit.

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  11. Anonymous7:21 AM

    Ben & Jerry's co-founders scooped up by police for protesting at US Capitol
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/ben-and-jerry-arrested-us-capitol-democracy-spring-protests

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  12. Anonymous7:22 AM

    Something that's really pissing me off today is all the complaints about NYS "disenfranchising" voters by having rules about joining the Democratic Party to actually vote in the primary.

    Limiting the primary to Democrats is not disenfranchisement.

    Making people join the party to vote in the primary is not disenfranchisement.

    Having a well-publicized deadline to join the party in order to vote in the primary is not disenfranchisement.

    Yet, when Clinton wins NYS, we are going to be hearing a lot of bitching about how the system is corrupt and how there was voter suppression and how the party is in Clinton's pocket because it only lets Democrats who have been party members for longer than six months vote in it's primary.

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    1. As we have a party system, I strongly support limiting primary or caucus voting to those register in the party, and yes, I even support the six months requirement. We are talking about the selection of a party nominee, not a general election, and having open primaries or enabling people to switch registrations leads to too much potential for manipulation by the other party.

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  13. Anonymous7:37 AM

    Bernie is really trying to make America live up to its powerful potential. I don't know why he is demonized for wanting to level the economic playing field on Wall Street, push us for more egalitarian healthcare, talk about our insane rate of incarceration, seriously addressing climate change as the huge problem it is, and for once really pushing campaign finance reform, because without campaign finance reform Nothing will ever change and the politicians will own our country, instead of us. Yes, if Hillary is the nominee, my vote goes to her, but I thing Bernie is very courageous to bring up all that is really unpopular with the rulers of our country.

    MurkyWaters

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    1. Anonymous8:36 AM

      Bernie Sanders has absolutely no clue how he will accomplish all the wonders he's spouting on the campaign trail. Practicality is not his area of expertise.

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    2. Anonymous9:53 AM

      He's not being demonized by Democrats for wanting to level the playing field.

      He is being criticized for demonizing anyone who doesn't live up his impossibly high bar and for not having a solid plan to fulfill any of his promises.

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  14. Anonymous7:42 AM

    READ THIS>
    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-sanders-age-20160419-story.html

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    1. Anonymous8:39 AM

      All my friends in CA and their kids are voting for HRC. As he continues to lose, more will leave his "movement."

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    2. Anonymous10:14 AM

      I too have married friends in Dem. politics in CA. 30 somethings, who are working very hard to show the PROOF on how HRC is the best qualified person for the future. Period.

      The FREE stuff seems to be a motivator for many, along with fallacious cynicism regarding HRC. Many FAILING to understanding that it (free stuff) must be paid for somehow, someway and that "laws" must change to do that. Congress is responsible for those actions and allocations.

      HRC needs to tie in CA in the primary. Winning outright will reassure stability in her leadership going forward.
      Congress needs a new delegation of members elected in November. My friends are trying to understand this phenomenon of "the Bern".

      Go HRC!

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  15. " (I don't think he [Obama] has a political identity. He certainly has no specific convictions like Bernie)"
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    That is quite possibly the stupidest, most ignorant, and least well-informed comment I have seen in a long, long time.

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    1. Thank you, Nefer.

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    2. Anonymous8:37 AM

      Couldn't agree more

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    3. Oops. I meant this as a reply to 7:15 am.

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  16. Anonymous7:55 AM

    I don't recall ever hearing or reading that Sanders has no ego. Crimony, how can you run for the highest office (maybe of the world) and NOT have an ego?

    It's about a HEALTHY ego, one in which you resolutely believe in yourself and your vision...as opposed to a Trump ego which is an end in itself. (and is malignant)

    I will probably vote for Hill, but your objections against Bernie I think are not well-founded and bordering on hysteria.

    I think it is fair and all-American to campaign hard against Hillary and I believe he will support her when and if he loses.

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    1. Susan Sarandon claimed Sanders had no ego.

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    2. Anonymous8:17 AM

      Unless Sarandon is his official spokesperson, I would assume she is voicing her own opinion.

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    3. Anonymous8:37 AM

      8:17 - where have you been? Yes, Sarandon is one of Bernard's official surrogates!

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    4. Anonymous9:37 AM

      Sarandon has always been a bit far out (IMO) but when I saw the interview where she said Bernie has no ego in the race, I knew she'd gone off of the deep end. That is such a foolish statement on so many levels.

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  17. Anonymous8:18 AM

    http://www.berkshireeagle.com/letters/ci_29782411/letter-attack-sanders-is-typical-hillary

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  18. I have admired Bernie from the beginning for shining a light on the need for economic reform in this country. He said ( loudly ) what needed saying.
    I have disliked Bernie for repeating ( loudly) the Republican lies about Hillary, the probable Democratic nominee.
    Bernie wants to change things, and insists that if everyone votes for him, there will be a magical revolution and things will change.
    Hillary wants to change things and knows that it will take another Democratic president, supported by a Democratic Congress to do it. So she is working hard to get elected AND to help elect down ticket Democrats.
    I support the practical Hillary because I want change to actually happen.
    And yes, if course I would vote for Bernie if he were the nominee.

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  19. Anonymous8:38 AM

    Oh but Hillary has no ego. The woman has been plotting to be president since 2000 (probably before). She did her time as a Senator because she knew she had to have some accomplishment besides being First Lady.

    She was supposed to be coronated in 2008 but was annoyed as hell that Obama came along and stole her thunder. People forget how nasty she was in that 08 campaign "Of course Obama isn't a Muslim....as far as I know".

    So then she did her time as Secretary of State. Please don't tell me that this was what she really wanted. Especially since she trots herself out as "the helper of the poor and downtrodden". She needed more on her resume because we all know she planned to run again in 2016 and nobody should dare run against her. Because, by god, Hillary should be elected president in 2016 for no other reason than its her turn.

    I'm not much of a Bernie fan. But I like him a whole lot more than Hillary. She's the type who would tell me exactly what I want to hear but sell me down the river without a second thought if it better served her politically.

    I will, of course, hold my nose and vote for Hillary because Trump and Cruz are a hundred times worse.

    I know I'm one of the few that thinks this, but I REALLY wish Joe Biden had run. I have a ton of respect for him and actually trust him. At the very least, I wish we could've had a few more viable candidates to choose from other than "It's Hillary's Turn"

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    1. Anonymous9:06 AM

      There are little children who aspire to be president. Shame on them for "plotting"! lol

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    2. Anonymous9:39 AM

      So you don't like strong, accomplished, well qualified women? Okay.

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    3. Anonymous9:51 AM

      You have a lot of gut feelings but nothing to back them up.

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    4. Anonymous9:51 AM

      You'd rather have a president who doesn't actually want to be president?

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    5. Anonymous10:15 AM

      @ anon 9:08 am
      Teehehehe

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    6. Anonymous10:24 AM

      How dare someone have goals and work to achieve them!

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    7. Anonymous1:58 PM

      Hillary Clinton has my vote! She can run circles around Bernie Sanders. He's NOT qualified to be POTUS - simple as that and I think he'll lose the nomination!

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  20. Difference between FDR and Sanders is FDR could reach across the aisle, Bernie flips the bird at everyone.

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    1. Anonymous8:59 AM

      Bernie Sanders thinks he's the sole source of good ideas.

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    2. Anonymous10:13 AM

      Bernie can't even shake hands on his own ( or the side of the aisle he chose).
      BTW I met him in 1999 when I was at an event with a very progressive Senator who is no longer living and Bernie was a senile asshole then.

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    3. Anonymous11:30 AM

      @Sarah Palin has a serpent's heart 8:41 AM

      '''Difference between FDR and Sanders is FDR could reach across the aisle, Bernie flips the bird at everyone.'''
      *********************
      In FDR's day Repubs worked with Dems.
      This day and time Repubs refuse to work with Dems or compromise in any way. Today Reubs sandbag and obstruct every step of the way.
      So you can't blame Sanders or any of today's Dems for that.

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  21. Anonymous8:52 AM

    If Bernie and Donald both lose the nomination it's not far fetched to imagine them joining forces to whine about how everything is so unfair.

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    1. Anonymous9:40 AM

      Good point!

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    2. Anonymous10:14 AM

      Trump can stomp his feet and Bernie can flail his demented arms around while they do it.

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  22. Anonymous10:29 AM

    Sanders might as well compare
    himself to Jesus while he's at it.


    Let's see...he's not: Gay or black.

    But he certainly is: A hippie and a Jew.

    2 outta 4 ain't bad.

    http://www.cafepress.com/mf/5977878/-jesus-was-or-was-he_tshirt?shop=secretbuddhist&productId=15548401

    Plus the Pope seems to have the same message. ;~)

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  23. Anonymous10:59 AM

    Comparing yourself to Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, JFK, or Reagan is probably never a good idea.

    Plus, didn't Bernie leave New York for Vermont? Hillary actually willingly moved there. If I was NY, I'd feel a bit rejected by Bernie.

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