Thursday, May 19, 2016

Bernie Sanders is not ending campaign, hopes to capitalize on any harm that Donald Trump can do to Hillary Clinton before California primary.

Courtesy of the New York Times:

Defiant and determined to transform the Democratic Party, Senator Bernie Sanders is opening a two-month phase of his presidential campaign aimed at inflicting a heavy blow on Hillary Clinton in California and amassing enough leverage to advance his agenda at the convention in July — or even wrest the nomination from her. 

Advisers to Mr. Sanders said on Wednesday that he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future. They said he also held out hope of capitalizing on any late stumbles by Mrs. Clinton or any damage to her candidacy, whether by scandal or by the presumptive Republican nominee, Donald J. Trump. 

After sounding subdued if not downbeat about the race for weeks, Mr. Sanders resumed a combative posture against Mrs. Clinton, demanding on Wednesday that she debate him before the June 7 primary in California and highlighting anew what he asserted were her weaknesses against Mr. Trump.

While Mr. Sanders says he does not want Mr. Trump to win in November, his advisers and allies say he is willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton in the shorter term if it means he can capture a majority of the 475 pledged delegates at stake in California and arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power. 

Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Mr. Sanders, said the campaign did not think its attacks would help Mr. Trump in the long run, but added that the senator’s team was “not thinking about” the possibility that they could help derail Mrs. Clinton from becoming the first woman elected president.

There you go folks.

This is who people have been defending and arguing should stay in the race until the end. 

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.

Bernie Sanders does not care about helping the Democratic party, or changing it for the better.

Bernie Sanders just wants to win.

And failing that leave a path of destruction in his wake.

163 comments:

  1. Anonymous4:04 PM

    Whether he leaves now or later, he has advanced the conversation to the left, and for that, we owe him.

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    1. Anonymous4:35 PM

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      @4:04
      Yup.
      Time to TEAM up,or SHUT UP.
      Trump is the enemy.
      Bernie with 45% of the vote has at the very least earned a spot "at the table".

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    2. Anonymous4:36 PM

      We don't owe him for dick.

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    3. Anonymous5:05 PM

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      Who is "we",hotshot?

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    4. Anonymous5:47 PM

      Well 4:04pm seemed to just be trying to be reasonable, but the comments afterwards prove the one thing that I know for sure: you Hillary people are absolutely unable to be reasonable and engage in civil conversation.

      You do know Hillary folks that you aren't bringing anyone over to her side behaving the way you do, right?

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    5. WE owe the old man nada!

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    6. Anonymous6:02 PM

      Unfortunately, he's going to shit all over the table first.

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    7. Anonymous6:10 PM

      What conversation has he advanced?
      Being anti soda tax?
      Or that big coal is wonderful?
      Or that women's healthcare and reproductive rights are unimportant?
      Sounds like the 50's to me.

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    8. Anonymous7:36 PM

      I'm tired of everyone having to pussyfoot around him and his whiney supporters. He needs to go NOW. But like Trump his ego won't let him. Many question about Bernie. Who paid for the trip to Rome/Vatican? About that College Bernie your wife ran? Why have you let your campaign be over run by trolls? He is not a DEM never was. He should be thrown out on his ass to run as a third party. Good bye bernie. And Fuck off also too. He is nothing but a Angerbear.

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    9. Brent Lloyd Rideout8:46 PM

      5:47, you're right. Hillary supporters are the worst. My mother, the Hillary supporter, is so vulgar in her expressions, I'm thinking I need to make some changes. She sounds kinda like 7:36. Every time she opens her yap, I'm just disgusted. If her bile hadn't crystallized into gall stones, it would have come up and choked her.

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    10. Anonymous9:18 PM

      @ Bent rideout

      Sounds like you have some Mommy issues.

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    11. Anonymous1:16 PM

      @5:47 PM,

      Hillary Clinton is already bringing people over to her side, that's WINNING, and St. Bernard is LOSING!


      @8:46 PM,

      Projection, much? It wasn't us Hillary supporters who were throwing chairs, and calling Sen. Barbara Boxer a BITCH at the Nevada convention!

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    12. Anonymous7:58 PM

      Yes, 4:04 Sanders represents many Democrats that were shoved out and shunned by the party--especially since the Democratic Leadership Council and the Clintons reminted it as "New" Democrats in the 1980s. The party is now to the right of Eisenhower Republicans. Sanders also represents many young and first-time voters. He has a responsibility to keep fighting for voters who strongly disagree with policies foisted on the country for 20 plus years by the Clintons and establishment Democrats and their subservience to the moneyed interests who fund them; policies that have wrecked the US economy and increased economic injustice worldwide, not to mention increasing war and terrorism by following neoconservative policies.

      Hilary was picked by establishment Dems because she is a political insider who will conduct business as usual in Washington--a cozy arrangement for the elites.
      (Elizabeth Warren has spoken about Hilary's sellout to the banking sector.)
      Sanders is raising valid issues that Hilary ignored and will ignore because her policies and affiliates are going to serve the wealthy not the working and middle class--no matter what her speeches say.

      Hilary is a proven liar, an inept politician and was a lousy Secretary of State--her unfavorability rating is stratospheric. She is arguably one of the main reasons Bernie Sanders is doing so well. If she had a better record and didn't serve Wall St. bankers and the Washington war machine, and if her handlers weren't so arrogant, they might look in the mirror and see why millions of Democrats and others want Sanders not Hilary.

      That she should announce to voters now that they should not vote for Sanders because she is already chosen reveals an arrogant disdain for both democracy and the voter.

      (A reminder to the Democratic leadership and the punditocracy: the party IS the voters. Neither Hilary, the backroom dealers, the “chosen” superdelegates, nor the candidates are the Democratic party.)

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    13. Anonymous8:07 PM

      @7:58 Thank you.

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  2. Anonymous4:08 PM

    To quote Yogi Berra, "It ain't over til it's over"

    I find it funny that since before March Hillary's camp has been saying "Bernie can't win, he's not a threat, we're not worried about Bernie..." and at the same time in an apparent panic with regard to Bernie Sanders.

    We're not even at the convention yet. Let him go until then. Only political junkies are really paying attention to the campaigns right now, so the only way that Bernie can hurt Clinton is by continually showing what a weak candidate she really is.

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    1. Anonymous5:09 PM

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      @4:08
      "To quote Yogi Berra, "It ain't over til it's over"
      Yup.
      And another nugget from I believe it was Yogi:
      "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings"
      As in the FBI interview.

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    2. Balzafiar6:21 PM

      "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings." is not by Yogi. The first recorded use appeared in the Dallas Morning News on 10 March 1976, by journalist Ralph Carpenter.

      You're welcome.

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    3. Anonymous7:15 PM

      What does a fat lady singing specifically have to do with the FBI investigation?

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    4. Anonymous7:20 PM

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      I said "I believe" because several people have been credited with coining the phrase,including Yogi.
      After a quick google,I came up with this at the top of the page:
      "The correct expression is that; "the opera ain't over till the fat lady sings." It is said that this expression was first used by a sports writer, Dan Cook, writing for the San Antonio News-Express, Texas, round about the year 1976."

      You're welcome also too!

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    5. Anonymous7:53 PM

      And, why did you bring up that specific saying when you're talking about the FBI investigation, 7:20?

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    6. Anonymous8:20 PM

      Anonymous7:15 PM

      What does a fat lady singing specifically have to do with the FBI investigation?
      ***
      Bernie's wife being investigated for embellishment of the college theay had?
      omg!

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    7. Anonymous4:15 AM

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      Hillary being interviewed by the FBI.
      And if Jane Sanders needs to be interviewed by the FBI,so be it.

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    8. Anonymous1:25 PM

      4:08 PM,

      If Hillary Clinton is so "weak," then why isn't Bernie Sanders winning? Bernie Sanders still isn't a threat to Hillary Clinton winning the nomination. Hillary Clinton is going to be the democratic nominee. Deal with it.

      Democrats aren't worried about Bernie Sanders winning the nomination. They're concerned that when Bernie Sanders doesn't get his way (win the nomination)he'll throw a giant tantrum and encourage the Bernie-bots to riot on live t.v., at the convention, instead of calling for party unity.

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    9. Anonymous1:27 PM

      The Fat Lady has sung, it's OVER! And, Hillary Clinton isn't being investigated by the F.B.I., and she isn't going to be indicted, either. It's "game-over" for Bernie Sanders.

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  3. Anonymous4:13 PM

    I'm in San Francisco. He was in the Bay Area yesterday in Vallejo. Many people came to the rally. Came to hear the same old thing--he's not offering anything new and no more specifics, and the pundits on MSNBC said the same. It's a feel-good stump speech and nothing more. There's no way he'll say anything more in another debate. I'm all for debates. But he won't get anything out of another one. Trump benefited when the debates stopped. Bernie has too.

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    1. Anonymous5:12 PM

      Getting control of the Executive branch to get government into supporting someone beside Wall St. and the Banks/Super rich 1%ers is enough for many of us. You Hillary supporters are really easily swayed by the well off folks to believe some ridiculous stuff they keep telling you.

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    2. Anonymous6:00 PM

      Bernie is part of the 5% and you seem pretty easily swayed by some ridiculous stuff he keeps telling you.

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    3. Anonymous6:04 PM

      5:12

      Please be specific. What "ridiculous stuff?" What are we swayed by? You are painting with a very broad brush.

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    4. Anonymous8:26 PM

      Anonymous5:12 PM
      You kock /trump trolls are really obvious>!
      Bernie's Ego has taken over now. He is some krazy man with a sign and you are the new "Hare Krishas of the 2000"

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    5. Anonymous9:20 PM

      @ 5:12pm
      And just what has your hero done in 30 yrs in office except name 2 post offices and collected his check?

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    6. Anonymous4:34 AM

      Please be specific. What "ridiculous stuff?" What are we swayed by?
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      Free college, breaking up the banks-neither are going to happen.

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    7. Anonymous6:57 AM

      4:34 - Non sequitur. I'm 5:12PM.

      I'm a hillary supporter. I graduated from college in 1975.

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    8. Anonymous1:33 PM

      @4:13 PM,

      You Bernie supporters seem easily sway by the utter BULLSHIT he tells you! Bernie Sanders told you the super-delegates are going to switch to him, and give him the nomination. That's not going to happen, and when it doesn't happen, it will just be another lie that Bernie Sanders told you.

      That makes you the stupid one, because you believe him.

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  4. Caroll Thompson4:17 PM

    It sounds like he wants to Burn the Party down. Sanders is essentially trying to hijack the Democratic Party and if he is unsuccessful, he is going to do whatever he can to ensure that no Democrat is successful.

    I had thought that Bernie would fight the good fight all the way to California and then suspend his campaign as Clinton did the day after California in 2008. But Bernie is not going to go quietly into the night. He wants to take the whole party down with him.

    We Democrats got BURNED.

    I guess we all need to get used to Trump because unless things change, that is who we are going to get.

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    1. Anonymous5:14 PM

      You must be quite the buzzkill at parties.

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    2. Anonymous5:29 PM

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      Bloody Mary!

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    3. Anonymous5:49 PM

      4 years of Trump will actually prove to a lot of people how important it is to vote. I'm looking forward to it. People take this voting thing too lightly; you don't have to give money you don't have to participate except TO VOTE.

      Trump for a term will remind people how important it is to have your say.

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    4. Anonymous6:05 PM

      I've had enough of the Bernbots. Looks like one of them got the assignment to fill this thread with his nonsense.

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    5. Anonymous7:16 PM

      If you're looking forward to four years of Trump, you must be a white man, because everyone else is going to get screwed.

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  5. Anita Winecooler4:29 PM

    I'm sure Hillary will be kind and invite him to the DNC party, the one when they bring out the jumbo huge shrimp. Well, now know the definition of a "Socialist Democrat" it means "sore loser".
    How much did Donald pay him to switch teams?

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    1. Anonymous4:49 PM

      How much did Trump pay Jane to switch teams?

      See Jane.
      See Jane collect $200K to leave.
      Leave Jane Leave and take down a college.

      Now see Jane Leave and take down a political party.
      Jane, how much Jane?
      How much?

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  6. Anonymous4:30 PM

    Instead of Sanders destroying the political party from the inside that he just recently joined and allowing Donald Trump to be POTUS, why didn't he start his own party?

    "The Bernie Sanders's Socialist Party"

    Why did he have to hide and infiltrate a political party like a terrorist?

    Terror groups have been focusing its recruiting efforts on children, ... Reaching the hearts and minds of the next generation of terrorists has become a principal tenet of terror groups.

    Where does Sanders go to recruit his Bernie Bros? He is hopping from college town to college towns recruiting his followers and California is full of colleges where it is Sanders last stand.

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    1. Anonymous5:23 PM

      The way you are going to get change in a 2 party system is to change one of those political parties. That is just they way it is.
      Sen. Sanders represents progressive ideas, Trump is the racist fascism rich guys candidate. I prefer Sen. Sanders. In case you have not heard Sen. Sanders dislikes Trump just as much, if not more than most progressives. Quit listening to those who tell you different.

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    2. Anonymous5:37 PM

      From what I understand, there are about the same number of baby boomers as millenials (ages 18-35) in 2016. Even though Bernie is pissing me off right now, I think that the California primary will be his make or break moment. The news media is trying to define the story as usual. I remember feeling just as stressed during the 2008 and 2012 elections as we neared the end of the primaries. I wish there would be an end to all the endless polls since the info from all of them is very contradictory.

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    3. Anonymous8:43 PM

      How to spot paid trolls~~
      Remember Gov Palin?
      Now Senator Saunders~
      Spot the troll on aisle one!

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    4. Anonymous1:39 PM

      @5:23 PM,

      You don't try to change a party, by shitting on them. Bernie Sanders is a sore loser, who wants to DESTROY the democratic party, not change it.

      Sometimes I can't tell the Trump supporters, from the Sanders supporters. Both are white, angry, racist, sexist, and loud.

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  7. Caroll Thompson4:37 PM

    Perhaps we have some hope here. The comments on Talking Points Memo about Sanders campaign manager going on TV and saying that no one had the right to feel threatened are great. I read all the comments and not one was in support of Bernie. Indeed, there were many former Bernie supporters saying they support him no more.

    http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2016/05/bernie-sanders-is-not-ending-campaign.html#comment-form

    It would be good if the voters of the upcoming primary states do us proud and not vote for Sanders. That might send the message that needs to be sent. That and no more contributions to the Sanders campaign.

    Then we get back to hoping that the Dems take the White House, the Senate and at least shrink the Republican majority in the House.

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    1. Anonymous6:03 PM

      No thanks!

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    2. Anonymous6:20 AM

      Unfortunately Bernie's people are not only rabid but they're also delusional.

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  8. Anonymous4:41 PM

    "When he said bad judgment, I said 'sound bite!'
    -Donald Trump

    Earlier this month, Sanders argued that Clinton's bad judgment called into question her qualifications for the presidency. Trump expressed admiration for that line of attack.

    "He said some things about her that are actually surprising. That essentially she has no right to even be running. She's got bad judgment," the GOP front-runner continued. "When he said bad judgment, I said 'sound bite!' But Bernie has been treated very badly by the Democrats and Democratic Party. Frankly, he should run as an independent, I think."


    Donald Trump Says He’s Going to Use a Lot of Bernie Sanders’s Material Against Clinton

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/trump-bernie-gave-me-a-lot-of-good-sound-bites.html

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    1. Anonymous6:21 PM

      Despite Bernie's rhetoric he and Donald have teamed up to blow up any chances Hillary has of winning the Presidency. He and Trump are committed to destroying the Democratic Party. Bernie is being considered for a seat on a committee at the convention. What more does he want now that he has no path to the nomination? What a putz!

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    2. Anonymous9:32 PM

      Donald and Bernie "teamed up"??? You're joking, right?

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    3. Anonymous1:37 AM

      Exit polls in WV caucus, 30% were Republicans who cross overed and will vote for Trump in November...Intentionally or not, Sanders is on Team Trump.

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    4. Maple4:08 AM

      I think 6:21 means Trump and Sanders have teamed up figuratively, in that it appears they have the same goals -- destroy Hillary's chances of becoming the first female President.
      It's really past time for Sanders' supporters to consider what a race between Sanders and Trump would look like. Trump would demolish him with charges of "Socialist, Communist, he wants to take your money and give it to the poor" etc. Didn't you folks see that happening to Obama and the Dems in trying to bring in the ACA (remember "death panels" and "Obama wants you to start paying for your neighbour's healthcare").
      Instead of thinking in the here and now, please, please think about not only after the Conventions (if Bernie becomes the nominee) but also after President Trump's fascist regime begins, and he nominates a Supreme Court justice who will side with the 4 rightwingers and demolish all the social progress that has been made over many long years.
      THINK, people, THINK!

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  9. WA Skeptic4:48 PM

    Sounds like a Drumpf candidate himself.

    I'd thought that he'd make a good VP on HRC's ticket; now, I'm agin him.

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  10. Anonymous5:00 PM

    What a fucker!

    Some stocky males in the Democratic party need to find him, put him up on a light post - at the very top - with the light on - for all America to view and mock!

    He is intentionally ripping apart the Democratic party - allowing Trump to win! He needs to be stopped!

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    1. Anonymous5:58 PM

      Um, I have to tell you that there aren't too many "stocky male" democrats except for the ones that drink too much and are fat and out of shape.

      Most of they fit guys at the gym that I hang out at are pure Republican. Lots of military guys and others that aren't pansy ass liberal pukes.

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    2. Anonymous7:19 PM

      You like to stay at the YMCA with the Macho Men who are In the Navy, 5:58?

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    3. Anonymous7:20 PM

      5:58

      Typical ignorant right wing puke. What a child.

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    4. Anonymous7:50 AM

      5:58 PM You are describing all the Republican white men that I know! All I have to do is look at my State Legislature - and all the obese guys are Republican! Think you got your parties screwed up big time! Some even look as though they could have a major heart attack! They are known to drink too much too!

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    5. Anonymous7:52 AM

      Even as much as I dislike Bernie Sanders, he, at least, is not heavy (as to weight). However, his wife, Baby Jane, is and needs to pay attention to her health as she continues moving into the older ages!

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  11. Anonymous5:00 PM

    Am very disappointed in him. Guess he became kind of like a palin.

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  12. Anonymous5:00 PM

    Just in, Bernie Sanders will be holding a rally in Compton, California at 8pm Saturday night.

    Just kidding, there's no colleges in Compton and didn't Sanders say poor people don't vote?

    "Bernie Sanders said something he wasn’t supposed to say: that poor people don’t vote."

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    1. Anonymous5:25 PM

      Compton has a community college.

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    2. Anonymous5:56 PM

      OMG, I was going to say hell no please don't go to Compton! Seriously, white jew and lots of white supporters, Compton NO GO, really any white people, Compton, NO GO!

      White people in Compton are like white Trayvon Martins :-)

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    3. Anonymous3:58 AM

      For the sake of the residents of Compton, I pray that the rally goes peacefully although, if it doesn't, Bernie will blame it all on Hillary and the DNC.
      Beaglemom

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  13. Jacque5:19 PM

    I read your whole blog and could not find anything to justify making Sanders out to be an evil person just because he is running for president. There is no rule that says he should just give Hillary the nomination JUST because you like her. He has every right to run and win if he can. Just make your vote count where you want it to and let others decide on their own vote.

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    1. Anonymous5:54 PM

      The blog owner has a boner for Hills. Then again, it is his blog and he can cheerlead for whomever he wants.

      A lot of us that read here are much further left than the blog owner and it does cause some strife amongst the readership.

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    2. Anonymous5:57 PM

      I don't know what blog you're reading but nobody here has ever said he's an evil person or that he's an evil person just because he's running for president.

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    3. Anonymous6:03 PM

      Thank you.

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    4. Anonymous6:03 PM

      Hillary already has the nomination, she hasn't been "given" anything. But send Bernie some more of your dollars to retire on.

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    5. Anonymous6:07 PM

      Didn't you know, it is Hillary's turn! She is the heir apparent.

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    6. Anonymous6:08 PM

      That's just it, he can't win. All he is doing now is damaging the party and he doesn't give a fuck.

      He wife sounds like a real asshole as well.

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    7. Anonymous6:12 PM

      By Sanders fighting to stay in the running, he's turning out the Dem vote, especially the younger vote in such late primary states as California. This will help down ballot candidates and maybe influence the National Dem platform to sway more progressive against HRC's neoliberalism. He's keeping the Dem Party viable.

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    8. Anonymous6:13 PM

      I'm not crying evil. I'm crying solidarity. If we don't come together for the greater good, this world is fucked.

      I worked for an old chemical engineer. And he talked about 'tipping points'. Where something reaches the point of no return and there is no redemption. I'm afraid that we are very close to many 'tipping points'. And I am grateful that I don't have children.
      GeorgiaPeach

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    9. Anonymous6:19 PM

      He is not just "giving Hillary the nomination". He is destroying the Democratic party for this election.

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    10. Anonymous6:26 PM

      Jacque, the only problem with your point is that there are rules to winning the nomination for the Democratic Party and Sanders refuses to play by the rules but that's okay just let it play out. The outcome will be the same whether he suspends today or in three weeks because there are rules in all contests.

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    11. Anonymous8:11 PM

      Jacque's rules aren't good enough for Colonel Sanders.

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    12. Anonymous8:14 PM

      6.12 you're kidding yourself if you think that all of Sanders' primary votes lately are legitimate and not Republican, and if you believe those votes will translate to the general- they will definitely not.

      That's Sanders hooey.

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    13. Anonymous10:24 PM

      It seems as if a LOT of people, including Gryph, still aren't grasping what is going on in this country with regards to much of the general populace. Especially the forgotten middle class that has been stuck, if not worse off, over the last 15 yrs. So many have become completely disenfranchised with the next in line presidency offerings with either party, and they feel they have no say and no representation.

      It is why Trump completely annihilated the rest of the republican field. It is exactly why Bernie is holding on, stronger than the DNC counted on, and while Hillary has held on, you are kidding yourself if it didn't have everything to do with being pre-ordained with a big DNC kiss and her superdelegates in her pocket.

      Watch out in November if it is Hillary Vs Trump. My money is on the peoples candidate.

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    14. Anonymous9:54 AM

      Sanders is turning out voters for himself and at the same time saying the Party is crap. Do you really thing all his new voters are going to support down ballot Democrats?

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    15. Anonymous2:02 PM

      6:07 PM,

      You bet your ass, it's Hillary Clinton's turn! She earned it, unlike Bernie Sanders, who wants the super-delegates to ignore the will of millions of democratic voters, and hand him the nomination!



      10:24 PM,

      Shut the fuck up! Who is lacking "representation?" White people? Give me a fucking break!

      Donald Trump isn't the "people's candidate," he the "WHITE PEOPLE'S" candidate! Both Bernie Sanders' and Donald Trump's candidacies are being fueled by angry, white men, who think they're entitled!

      The majority of Donald Trump supporters are stone-cold, fucking racists! Donald Trump "annihilated" the rest of the republican field, because there is no down-side to being a racist, Muslim-hating, misogynist, in the republican primary! The republican primary, and the general election aren't the same, dumb-ass!

      There aren't enough angry, white men to put Donald Trump in the White House, it's not fucking 1980, anymore!

      The only reason Bernie Sanders is still "holding on" is because the democrats don't have a "winner take all" primary, like the republicans. If they did, Hillary Clinton would have put him away last month. And, "holing on" isn't good enough, because he's still going to lose! It's over!

      Watch out in November if it's Hillary v.s. Trump. My money is on the white, brown, black, women, LQBT, Muslim, etc. people's candidate!

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  14. Anonymous5:23 PM

    As soon as the election is over the democrats should kick him out and not associate with him let him be independent and all alone and then do all you can to make sure he loses his senate seat.

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    1. Anonymous11:14 PM

      Joe Lieberman.

      dowl

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  15. Jubal Early5:35 PM

    Sanders' march to the convention starting to seem like Sherman's march to the sea.

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  16. (My Canadian comment)The popularity of Sanders and Clinton as individuals is not what is important. It is their ideas and their vision for the future of the Democratic party that deserves the real soul searching. Is the Democratic party a party of the left or of the right,of FDR or of Reagan, of Keynesian or of Libertarian economic policies? Before there can be unity in the party, and regardless of the chosen presidential candidate, Democrats need to decide what they believe in.

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    1. FDR and Reagan are not in the same class. FDR used his powers to help people who were in such dire straights that they would have probably perished without it. Reagan set up policies to get rid of everything FDR did.

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    2. Maple4:12 AM

      darla, please read stephen's comment again. He wrote FDR OR Reagan, knowing there was a world of difference in their respective philosophies.

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  17. Olivia5:39 PM

    One change that we really need in politics is to not allow any political activity for any office for more than 6 months before the election. We no sooner get finished with an election and the moneygrubbers start on the next one. I can't be the only one who is fucking sick and tired of it.

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    1. Anonymous9:37 PM

      You are definitely not alone.

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  18. I read the below earlier today, and now after reading Gryph's post above, I feel used.

    http://www.shakesville.com/2016/05/its-pretty-rich-for-bernie-sanders-to.html

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    1. Anonymous7:21 PM

      That's a GREAT post.

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    2. Anonymous7:32 AM

      "Let's be clear: Democratic party favoritism and a rigged system has kept Bernie Sanders in Washington for the last quarter century.
      The fact is that Sanders had acted as a spoiler in 1988, running as in Independent and drawing enough votes away from the Democratic ticket a very liberal candidate, someone who could have been the first black woman to represent Vermont in Congress" Bernie Sanders is actually fine with all of that. As long as it benefits him.
      http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11462984/congress-women-map-historical
      He is a SPOILER NOW TOO.

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  19. Anonymous5:45 PM

    Many of us will not hold our noses and vote for Hillary, so go Bernie.

    I realize you people here hate him but you have to wake up and realize what it is that he is trying to accomplish and I for one applaud his intestinal fortitude and reluctance to just quit, like a certain Governor that used to be in office here.

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    1. Anonymous7:11 PM

      I don't hate anybody.
      GeorgiaPeach

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    2. Anonymous7:22 PM

      Who hates him?

      I see plenty of people who have said they hate Hillary, like REALLY and literally hate her. I've not seen anyone say they hate Sanders.

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    3. I don't hate him either. If you took that from anything I have written, you read stuff into it that was not there. Maybe you do that more than you know.

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  20. Anonymous6:01 PM

    Bernie is staying in for one reason......$$$$$$.
    Personally I think it's more than a bit unethical to take money from supporters when you know there is no mathematical way to win but I guess Baby Jane wants a huge retirement fund to spend on herself.

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  21. Anonymous6:06 PM

    s to re there is a 3rd post office that needs to be named, that way his 30 yr legacy will have 3 post offices names instead of just the 2.

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  22. Anonymous6:21 PM

    OT but Oklahoma voted today to make abortions a felony. I guess those right wing retards better figure out soon what birth control is or we are going to be supporting even more EBT and Welfare mommies and kids!

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    1. Then watch the number of Stand Your Ground cases increase. "Hey judge, I really wanted to have the baby but it was literally going to kill me, I mean, literally, so I had a right to Stand My Ground". I mean, GZ got to kill a kid because he said his life was threatened, so, so was mine." Sorry if I'm being crass but is this what it is going to come to? It's beyond ridiculous.

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    2. Anonymous7:23 PM

      Bernie says abortion rights are a distraction from real issues.

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  23. kraftysue6:24 PM

    It is very hypocritical for Bernie to complain about the rules which they should have known about before he jumped in the race. I haven't heard of any major changes since the last election. He has some grandiose ideas but they won't get passed just like the problems Obama has faced unless the Congress gets changed. In the meantime, he is destroying the Democratic party.

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    1. Anonymous7:20 PM

      Thank you, kraftysue, it's astounding to me how little people know of how our government works.

      You bet it's on a Republican-controlled Congress set out to destroy President Obama from Inauguration Night. It's astounding her accomplished what he did.

      In my opinion, the Republicans are out to take away any rights and benefits we had as citizens (I'm 58) and if tRump is elected, all hell is going to break loose NOT in our favor.

      The Hitler comparison is no coincidence if you know history.

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    2. Anonymous8:13 PM

      "he" accomplished.
      Sentiment remains the same.

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  24. Anonymous6:24 PM

    If he ends it there will be no candidates who give a shit about the people.

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    1. Anonymous7:23 PM

      What a load of crap.

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  25. Anonymous6:43 PM

    Your followers sure have increased since the last election. Gee, I guess Bernie bashing brings more traffic than Hillary basing.

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  26. Anonymous6:46 PM

    Instead of Sanders joining and destroying the Democratic political party from the inside and allowing Donald Trump to be POTUS, why didn't he start his own party?

    "The Bernie Sanders's Socialist Party"

    Why did he have to hide and infiltrate a political party like a terrorist?

    Terror groups have been focusing its recruiting efforts on children, ... Reaching the hearts and minds of the next generation of terrorists has become a principal tenet of terror groups.

    Where does Sanders go to recruit his Bernie Bros? He is hopping from college town to college towns recruiting his followers and California is full of colleges where it is Sanders last stand.

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  27. Go Bernie go, keep fighting.

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  28. Anonymous7:11 PM

    Maybe he should get a cat scan. Maybe he's suffering from dementia. You know they can get pretty violent in that state. Poor guy. And Trump? Trying to call Bill Clinton names? Perhaps they both bothered women too much in their heydey. Bill Clinton had his day before the judgemental when they bought out the blue dress. Get over it now. As for the rape accusations from Trump, and of Trump, who knows? I mean Bill Cosby is still running around despite all those women accusing him. Don't seem like too many people are upset. That info comes and goes. Bottomline, Hillary seems the sensible choice despite all the men and some women who want to bring her down. After all, it's been a man's world for a long time. People who are heralding Sanders as the high Sparrow are in some kind of cultish trance. Either that, or Trump has paid him well to bring down Hillary.

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    1. Anonymous7:44 PM

      7:11 - " People who are heralding Sanders as the high Sparrow are in some kind of cultish trance."

      It's obvious from their comments(which convince no one). When Hillary is nominated what will they do?

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    2. Anonymous7:56 PM

      That being said, I still don't trust her either. She has too many big buck ties to ever think she would work for lil' ol' me. I can't stand any of them!

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    3. Anonymous6:07 AM

      As with the vote this country gave it to a black man before giving it to women.

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  29. Anonymous7:54 PM

    *
    http://www.snopes.com/did-sanders-supporters-throw-chairs-at-nevada-democratic-convention/

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  30. Anonymous8:00 PM

    *
    "Over $300,000 that was transferred from Hillary Clinton’s joint fundraising venture to state Democratic parties is unaccounted for, a review of campaign finance records by the Washington Free Beacon has found.

    The Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising effort between the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democratic National Committee, and 32 state parties, allows Clinton mega-donors to cut much larger checks than what can be contributed directly to candidates or committees by law. A single donor can give upwards of $700,000 to the fund.

    According to Hillary Clinton’s website, the first $2,700 from an individual is allocated to Clinton’s campaign, while the next $33,400 is given to the Democratic National Committee. Any additional amount is then supposed to be split equally among the Democratic state parties."
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/over-300000-transferred-hillary-victory-fund-state-parties-unaccounted/

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  31. Anonymous8:07 PM

    Turns Out Benghazi Bad Boy Trey Gowdy Did a Bad Job with His Benghazi

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a45023/trey-gowdy-benghazi-ben-rhodes/

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  32. Anonymous8:08 PM

    Defiant is the operative word. Haven't we seen enough of that with dRUMPf?

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  33. Anonymous8:08 PM

    *
    "Democrats still can’t decide if Hillary Clinton is electable — in fact, her support has diminished as the primary season has dragged on. There are fears of a party revolt by Bernie Sanders supporters at the July convention, and there’s a huge rift forming between two of its major factions. Plus, polls show that the supposedly can’t-possibly-win Donald Trump is now close to Clinton.The latest evidence of trouble came with Tuesday’s primaries, where Clinton beat Sanders by a mere half a percentage point — 46.8% to 46.3% — in Kentucky, a state where in 2008 Clinton walloped Obama by 66% to 30%. Sanders beat her in Oregon by an almost 10-point margin.
    Of the past 20 primaries, Clinton has won only eight to Sanders’ 12. And as the accompanying chart shows, her vote average has dropped sharply in the second half of the primary season, while Sanders’ climbed. As a result, her lead among delegates today is actually narrower than it was back in late March.
    To make matters worse, 150 “superdelegates” — who can pick their candidate independent of any primary — could put Clinton over the top right now by announcing their support for her but, as Bloomberg reports, they are still refusing to do so."
    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/dont-look-now-but-the-democratic-party-is-in-the-midst-of-an-existential-crisis/

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    1. Anonymous8:44 PM

      If there are 150 superdelegates left who can put Hillary Clinton over the top then why not? Me thinks the Democratic Party is waiting for Sanders to shut down his campaign so as not to offend Sanders voters.

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    2. Anonymous3:50 AM

      *
      @8:44
      U-m-m-m
      Maybe waiting until convention to vote.
      As they should.

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    3. Anonymous3:58 AM

      *
      " The chairwoman, Roberta Lange, gave a rousing welcome, reminding all of us that we were there to defeat Trump and his misogyny, his xenophobia, his hate, his lies. The room felt unified, energized, cheering as a group; I felt inspired, felt yes, we can do this together.

      It wasn’t long before things took a turn. At 9:30, a full half hour before registration closed, Lange read the results of ballots that had been passed out to early arriving conventioneers regarding temporary rules for the convention, rules which would discount the results of the county convention (the second tier of the caucus process, where Bernie had won more delegates), rules which would require that all votes at the convention be decided by voice alone, and which ruled that the decision of the chairperson would be final. These temporary rules had passed by flying colors, which did not sit well with the Bernie delegates, many of whom had not been given ballots. Suddenly half the people of the room were on their feet, shouting “No!!!!” My son and I jumped to our feet as well, added our voices to the chorus. It felt good, all those voices of resistance vibrating through my body. I started to feel less like a cloud. I felt myself drop back into my body, surrounded by all these bodies yelling “No!”, feeling alive inside my skin.*
      http://www.salon.com/2016/05/20/i_watched_hillary_clintons_forces_swipe_nevada_this_is_what_the_medias_not_telling_you/

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    4. Anonymous6:04 AM

      8:44 Yes, God forbid we offend Bernie and his minions. We must allow him to continue to attack and damage the democratic candidate to a point that drumpf may possibly win. Otherwise the whiny little bitches will storm into the bathroom and slam the door.

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  34. Anonymous8:30 PM

    "he was newly resolved to remain in the race, seeing an aggressive campaign as his only chance to pressure Democrats into making fundamental changes to how presidential primaries and debates are held in the future"


    WHAT WE ARE LED TO BELIEVE:
    Sanders is staying in the Democratic race to pressure the party to change its primaries in the future.

    QUESTION:
    Sanders knows he's unable to win the nomination and knows the longer he stays in the race he is causing irreparable harm and damage to Secretary Clinton and to the Democratic Party in winning the presidency. So why stay in the race?

    Why can't Sanders admit he can't win, suspend his campaign and help elect Sec Clinton. Afterwards Sanders can share what he learned about primaries with the Democratic Party and help make changes after the election?


    Doesn't sound like Sanders has the interest of the Democratic Party at heart. Looks like Sanders is a Socialist Party of One.

    This is about Sanders and his Socialist agenda.

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    1. Anonymous3:53 AM

      At this point I don't even think it's about a "socialist agenda." I think it's about hubris and about Bernie Sanders' desire to destroy Hillary Clinton no matter what and the Democratic Party and the country as well. All through his narrow political career Bernie Sanders has been a big fish in the very little pond called Vermont. He likes the spotlight he's been in this past year; gee, it even meant the private plane family vacation weekend in Rome. Sanders thinks the Democratic Party has not treated him well enough since he joined in 2015 so he'll teach us Democrats a lesson. Unfortunately the result will be a disaster.
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous5:59 AM

      He's not a democrat, he's now morphed into a shit stirrer. I'd rather have Larry David as president. If I'm going to have a confused, egotistical old man as potus at least he could be funny.

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  35. Anonymous8:31 PM

    GREAT!!!!
    I hope he causes Hillary to lose!

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    1. Anonymous9:58 PM

      8:31 A loser like you?

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    2. Anonymous7:36 AM

      A communist like you.
      Go to Russia where they only have one candidate.

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  36. Anonymous8:38 PM

    ....all because a Black Man was too good at the job he was elected to serve in. Twice.

    God Bless You, President Obama, and your beautiful family. We will never see another like you in our lifetime.

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    1. Anonymous9:06 PM

      Thank you for your comment. I just can't put into words the respect I have for this President and his Family.

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    2. Anonymous3:43 AM

      Me too, countless times over.
      Beaglemom

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    3. Anonymous5:56 AM

      8:38 x 1,000,000. Only when he is gone from office will the rest of the population realize what a great president he is/was. None of the current candidates can come close to filling his shoes. I don't want any of them as president.

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  37. Anonymous8:58 PM

    If Sanders wins the presidency, does he have the power to change the call sign Air Force One to Socialist One? Don't get your panties in a wad. I withdrawal the question.

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  38. Anonymous9:04 PM

    We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves

    http://theslot.jezebel.com/we-called-up-bernie-fans-who-threatened-nevada-dem-stat-1777177985

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    1. Anonymous9:50 AM

      They were Sanders supporters? I thought they were all Clinton operatives or Trump voters.
      /s

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  39. Anonymous11:05 PM

    I almost want Old Bernie to win,so you all can see the debris left on the floor when Trump gets through shredding him.Your God has feet of clay.He will be labeled a Communist because Trumps supporters do not understand the difference,he will be destroyed with his wife's scandals,scams,bad business and bad mouthing. He will be taken apart over being a dead beat dad,destroyed for his fiscal policies that can't work. You rabid,crazed cultists of his are either too dumb to figure any of this out, or Trump supporters in disguise,because the only thing you will accomplish is to put that Fascist in office.

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    1. Anonymous5:53 AM

      They're young and dumb and we've raised them to expect to always have their way. We're partially to blame, we were so excited they were being politically engaged we failed to see they were enamored by a senior pied piper who talked a line of bullshit that will never come to be.
      We were taken by President Obama but he was a humble man who pledged to do things that could be accomplished. If the gotp hadn't made obstruction their priority our current president could have accomplished even more. The things Bernie babbles about continuously are "pie in the sky" things that as folks who have been around the block recognize as things that aren't going gto happen.

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  40. Anonymous11:39 PM

    Sorry but I don't want Jane Sanders as the shadow President which is exactly what she would be. I don't trust her to manage a household budget much less income taxes which she is hiding.

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  41. Anonymous11:58 PM

    Bernie Sanders will be our next President. Why would he end his campaign??

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    1. Anonymous5:14 AM

      Lay off the weed.

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  42. Anonymous2:19 AM

    If Clinton loses to Trump, it will not be Bernie's fault.

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    1. Anonymous6:18 AM

      Oh, yes it will! Sanders is nothing but a divider and he is NOT a Democrat. Screw him!

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  43. Anonymous2:44 AM

    Bernie and Baby Jane Sanders are vultures flying circles over Hillary Clinton just waiting for a slight chance something bad will happen to her

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  44. Anonymous4:10 AM

    "The fact that Hillary thinks the temporary Muslim ban, which she calls the 'Muslim ban,' promotes terrorism, proves Bernie Sanders was correct when he said she is not qualified to be President,"
    -Donald Trump's

    THANKS TO
    SEN BERNIE SANDERS I-VERMONT

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  45. Anonymous5:45 AM

    I've grown to really dislike him. He is as egotistical as drumpf. His "people" can be as unhinged as drumpf's. The ass-hole is fucking around with our and our children's future. He's way too old to be president & his wife is a manipulative hag. Go back to the senate and continue to really do nothing for another century.

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  46. Anonymous6:42 AM

    Donald Trump lashed out at Hillary Clinton in a statement on Thursday evening, claiming that the Democratic presidential frontrunner has "bad judgment" and is unfit to be president.
    -Business Insider


    "Bad judgement"/"unfit to be president"
    Courtesy of Bernie Sanders

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  47. Anonymous6:49 AM

    ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS
    We will see if he is just flapping his gums


    Bernie Sanders Is Personally Calling Democrats To Reassure Them On Party Unity

    Behind the scenes, Sen. Bernie Sanders is delivering a different personal message to Democrats than some of his campaign's public statements. Sanders is personally calling Democrats to reassure them that he will unite with the party and work to defeat Donald Trump.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/20/bernie-sanders-personally-calling-democrats-reassure-party-unity.html

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    1. Anonymous8:15 AM

      *
      @6:49

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/191681/democrats-say-continued-campaign-not-hurting-party.aspx?utm_source=tagrss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication

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  48. Randall6:54 AM

    I'm surprised that people are surprised that Bernie Sanders is acting more independent than Democrat
    ...since he's a long time Independent and has only been a Democrat for a year now.

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  49. Anonymous6:56 AM

    The Hill:
    “Unfortunately, he’s choosing the path of burning down the house,” the ally said. “He continues with character attacks against Hillary. He continues with calling the Democratic Party corrupt, and he not only risks damaging Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party but he's currently doing it."

    Clinton allies say Sanders is only piling on by insisting that Clinton join him for a debate ahead of California's primary on June 7. The debate would be aired on Fox News, a network Clinton supporters see as fanning the flames between Sanders supporters and the former secretary of State.

    A second ally said Sanders should stop criticizing the party and the front-runner’s supporters even if he continues to fight for delegates through the six state contests on June 7.

    “It’s inappropriate at this point, and I hate to tell him, it’s not helping him in the long run. It’s only hurting her,” the ally said. “The Republican Party has their nominee, and he’s free and clear of his Republican opponents and is taking shots at Hillary. We need to move closer to that process, and he’s not helping."

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  50. Anonymous7:57 AM

    Bernie Sanders's
    2016 Campaign Song

    "BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE"
    by Talking Heads

    https://youtu.be/u06DpcFXc4U

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  51. Anonymous8:12 AM

    @7:57
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqJcCmxZYdM

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  52. Anonymous8:27 AM

    Internet:
    "Sanders and his spokespersons say superdelegates should now ignore the overall vote and the pledged delegate totals and look at how much better Sanders does against Trump in hypothetical November matchups."

    Hellooooo Is Bernie and his wife slow?

    Is Bernie's campaign staff Mentally Impaired?

    Are Sanders's followers mad tokin'?

    What have we been telling them? Oxygen cut off to their brains?

    Yes Bernie Sanders's numbers against Trump is better than Hillary's.

    You have two camps going against Hillary and nobody attacking Sanders. What does that tell you?

    Trump is using Sanders's words to attack Hillary

    Knock knock anybody home? Trump wants to go against Sanders in the General Election

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  53. Anonymous8:28 AM

    Bernie,

    A message from a long time supporter - sit down and STFU already!

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  54. Anonymous8:45 AM

    Bernie Sanders Is Hurting Himself by Playing the Victim

    The Vermont senator could turn from movement leader into the messiah of an angry white male cult with his claims of a “rigged” nomination process.
    -Joan Walsh
    The Nation

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    1. Anonymous9:48 AM

      Excellent comment by Walsh.

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  55. Anonymous8:52 AM

    Enough already Bernie Sanders.
    Is this the unrest you promised? Will this be another Nevada?

    Four pro-Bernie Sanders rallies, with estimated attendance of 38,000 activists, have been approved for public demonstrations during the Democratic National Convention in July, the city said Thursday.
    The four rallies, given permits Wednesday night, bring the total to five for approved rallies and marches during what is expected to be a bustling week of political activity in Center City and South Philadelphia. The convention officially runs July 25-28, but two of the five approved rallies and marches of more than 7,000 activists will be held July 24 -- the day more than 4,000 delegates arrive from across the country.

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    1. Anonymous9:48 AM

      He's going to permanently ruin his reputation and lose any friends he still has in Congress.

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  56. Anonymous9:03 AM

    Bernie Sanders' campaign isn't about ideas anymore. It's about him.

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    1. Anonymous10:29 AM

      I start to wonder to what extent the campaign and the support are both driven by outright misogyny.

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