Saturday, May 07, 2016

Bernie Sanders sends letter to the DNC complaining that the nomination process is rigged, still leaves door open for VP slot.

Courtesy of TPM: 

In a Friday letter, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) accused Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz of stacking committees at the July national convention with supporters of Hillary Clinton. 

Sanders lamented to Wasserman Schultz that the DNC only nominated three of the more than 40 people he recommended to sit on the standing committees, and the DNC did not appoint any Sanders picks to the key Rules Committee. 

"I believe the composition of the standing committees must reflect the relative support that has been received by both campaigns," Sanders wrote in the letter. "That was why I was so disappointed to learn that of the over forty people our campaign submitted at your request you chose to select only three of my recommendations for the three standing committees. Moreover, you did not assign even one of the people submitted by our campaign to the very important Rules Committee of the Democratic National Convention." 

Sanders wrote that the lack of representation for his supporters at the convention suggests that the Democratic Party "is not open to the millions of new people that our campaign has brought into the political process."

Oddly enough Sanders gave an interview, also on Friday, where he said the following:  

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders said Friday he plans to keep fighting for the Democratic nomination all the way to the convention in Philadelphia, but did not slam the door shut on possibly joining Hillary Clinton's ticket. 

Asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer if he would accept a hypothetical offer to be Clinton's running mate, Sanders said he would talk about it with her after the convention. 

"Right now, we are focused on the next five weeks of winning the Democratic nomination. If that does not happen, we are going to fight as hard as we can on the floor of the Democratic convention to make sure that we have a progressive platform that the American people will support," Sanders said on "The Situation Room." "Then, after that, certainly Secretary Clinton and I can talk and see where we go from there."

"Your system is totally corrupt and rigged against me, and I am going to fight to fundamentally change everything about your party, but hey if you want to give me that VP slot I'll let bygones be bygones."

I love it when people attempt to paint Bernie Sanders as "not your typical politician."

Of course he is, and trust me if Hillary were to chose him to be her VP he would shut his trap and fall right into line and do exactly what he was told.

I also find it rather humorous that Sanders is surprised that the DNC is more supportive of Hillary than they are of him.

The Democratic party has years and years invested in the Clintons, and vice a versa. In fact many of those in positions of power were very disappointed that she did not get the nomination back in 2008.

So of course they are behind her.

On the other hand Sanders uses the party to garner national attention, criticizes them at every opportunity, and then bitches that the lifetime Democrat who has represented the party, in one capacity or another, for over thirty years is their favorite.

And there is NO WAY that Hillary would pick Bernie as her VP.

He brings nothing to the table that would help her in any way.

If Hillary wants to capture the Bernie Sanders supporters she would be better served appointing Elizabeth Warren, who they really wanted in the first place, and not the cantankerous non-Democrat who is six years her senior.

Though to be honest some of them will never be brought into the fold.
Not that she would want them anyway. 

129 comments:

  1. Anonymous11:38 AM

    He really is deaf to the world around him. He is just living in another reality where he doesn't seem to understand that his own actions have consequences. He acts like my niece who has a borderline personality disorder.

    FU_K BERNIE SANDERS

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    1. Anonymous1:21 PM

      @11:38
      "own actions have consequences."
      Yup!
      This Week’s Wild FBI Ride: Guccifer, Huma, unnamed sources, and a compromised candidate.
      https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4i9oyr/this_weeks_wild_fbi_ride_guccifer_huma_unnamed/

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    2. Anonymous2:15 PM

      LOL 1:21PM. Can't you get any attention at the pee pond?

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    3. Anonymous2:20 PM

      Bernie Sanders has never faced consequences for his behavior. He was a deadbeat dad that never had to get a job, he's been raking in the big bucks in congress for a generation but nobody makes him do any actual work, he goes to foreign countries to support America's enemies and the media hide those trips for him.

      Oh, and FU_K BERNIE SANDERS

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    4. Anonymous2:32 PM

      Excellent questions:
      - Just who were these "officials" CNN interviewed for information about Guccifer and Abedin's FBI interview that could have been briefed by the FBI about evidence and what a witness said in an ongoing investigation?
      - Why is it those "officials" statements matched almost exactly what Clinton spox Bryan Fallon was saying?
      - Who else would know Abedin had been interviewed other than the Clinton team and the FBI?
      - Reuters, AP and NYT stories about Guccifer and Abedin didn't include statements from "officials".

      I think CNN has been caught parroting Clinton team talking points.

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    5. Anonymous2:34 PM

      Reddit...

      the place where people make fun of dead teenagers and their grieving families, post the most racist and sexist garbage, and gleefully discuss "upskirts" and borderline pedophilia. Meanwhile other redditors don't care because freedom(!) trumps decency.

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    6. Anonymous3:36 PM

      Reddit sucks

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    7. Anonymous3:54 PM

      @2:34
      That would be 4chan,not reddit.
      EVERY link to reddit I've provided has verifiable and legit citations.
      Denial ain't a river in Egypt...

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    8. Anonymous4:42 PM

      4chan? Really? Did you just crawl out from under a rock?

      http://www.dailydot.com/news/reddit-cute-female-corpses-downvote-brigade/

      http://www.salon.com/2015/03/18/reddits_ugly_racist_secret_how_it_became_the_most_hateful_space_on_the_internet/

      http://fortune.com/2015/06/10/reddit-censorship-ban/

      http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/11/quelle-surprise/

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  2. Anonymous11:52 AM

    Has your daughter come to her sense yet about Sanders?

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  3. Anonymous11:57 AM

    I sincerely hope Hillary Clinton does NOT pick Sanders as her running mate. I don't trust him, or his wife, in that situation at all!

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    1. Anonymous12:52 PM

      And Hillary's husband can't be trusted with interns...

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    2. Anonymous1:59 PM

      Oh please. Bernie ran out on a pregnant first wife. He is no gentleman, frankly. And Bill Clinton is not Bill Cosby.

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    3. Anonymous2:16 PM

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

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    4. Anonymous2:21 PM

      Oh, dear, did he knock you back, 12:52 PM? You seem awfully interested and awfully bitter.

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    5. Anonymous2:24 PM

      I wouldn't let him past my front door until he produces the tax returns he's so carefully hiding.

      You know, those tax returns that he never thought he'd be expected to produce because his "campaign" could never succeed?

      The man's a weasel and so is his wife. They're no better than the Palins.

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    6. Anonymous2:25 PM

      That's a lie 1:59 that's easily fact-checked. Sanders was married to Deborah Shilling from 1963 to 1966. They had no children. Sanders and Susan Mott had son Levi in March 1969 and broke up in 1971. So your claim he ran out on a pregnant first wife is a fucking lie.
      http://vtdigger.org/2015/07/09/bernie-sanders-early-days-in-vermont-his-life-loves-and-circuitous-route-to-politics/

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    7. Anonymous2:31 PM

      Holy shit, 12:52. Please tell me you're a right winger and not a liberal pulling right wing talking points out of your ass.

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    8. Anonymous3:35 PM

      @2:31
      "talking points"?
      Bill Clinton got a blowjob from and stuck a cigar in an interns privates in the White House.

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    9. Anonymous4:16 PM

      @ anon 12:52 pm
      Either can Bernie Sanders, just ask his first wife how his GF got knocked up.

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    10. Anonymous4:34 PM

      That happened two decades. He's not running for POTUS. Stop re-living in over and over again in your mind and get over it.

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    11. Anonymous4:53 PM

      These are all consenting adults so who the fuck cares?

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    12. Anonymous6:38 PM

      If Clinton is elected, it will be the first time a convicted felon has lived in the White House.

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    13. Anonymous7:35 PM

      6:38 - who is the convicted felon?

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    14. Anonymous7:38 PM

      Are you referring to Bill Clinton? He's not a convicted felon. If you are referring to Hillary, that's just a fantasy of yours, not reality.

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  4. Anonymous12:03 PM

    Well it does seem like the powers that be want Sec. Clinton to be the Democratic Party presidential candidate.

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    1. Anonymous12:52 PM

      As do most of the Democratic voters.

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    2. Anonymous1:03 PM

      If the powers that be mean the registered voters of the Democratic Oarty in 2016, then yes! I agree! She's got 3 million more voters than he does!

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    3. Anonymous1:07 PM

      The powers that be = voters (since she has a lot more of them)

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    4. Anonymous2:14 PM

      I'm not a power but I do. And I specifically don't want that old pervert from Vermont to be president.

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    5. Anonymous4:28 PM

      Seems to me like the majority of voters want Hillary to get the nomination. But thanks for playing.

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  5. Anonymous12:11 PM

    Bernie Sanders should be eternally grateful to the Democratic Party for allowing him to run as a Democrat when he has served all of these years in Congress as an independent.

    Hasn't he ever watched a national political campaign unfold before? This election cycle has not been rigged. It's been strange, yes, but mostly on the GOP side. Most Democrats were skeptical of him at first but willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. His time is past and he should go away peaceably.

    I suspect that Bernie Sanders has lived his entire life on some alien planet and has been in the US Congress only because he made a wrong turn looking for the legislature on his home planet. Maybe he thought that he was running for president of his home planet? If that's not the explanation, then he's simply getting crazier by the day.

    And he has no right to assume that he will be the nominee for vice president. He does not have the temperament or the qualifications for the job. And, assuming that Hillary Clinton is the presidential nominee, the vice presidential nominee should be a person of her choosing. I'm sure that she's capable of choosing a great running mate, someone who will work with her and not against her.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous12:59 PM

      @ 12:11
      Hillary Clinton moved to New York only 10 months before the 2000 election in order to win a Senate seat.

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    2. Anonymous1:09 PM

      Well said Beaglemom.

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    3. Anonymous1:13 PM

      We Independents wanted another Nader, instead we got a turncoat that turned Democrat. Disappointing, to say the least.

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    4. Anonymous2:11 PM

      He is enjoy all the attention.

      SHE is enjoying all the money.

      NEITHER of them have much of a clue about anything.

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    5. Anonymous2:13 PM

      Oh, you wanted another Nader, 1:13 PM?

      Because that worked out so well?

      Can't you trolls stay away even for one day?


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    6. Anonymous2:30 PM

      She didn't move their in order to win the Senate seat. She moved there and then won the Senate seat.

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    7. "Anonymous12:59 PM
      @ 12:11
      Hillary Clinton moved to New York only 10 months before the 2000 election in order to win a Senate seat."
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      So what *if* she did? New Yorkers had the choice to vote for her or not. And they re-elected her. Her constituents obviously felt that she had served them well. She earned that seat.

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    8. Anonymous3:19 PM

      I don't care where or when Hillary moved to. A person has every right to move to the city/state of their choice or to relocate for their job. People do it all of the time. Hillary did a fine job as first lady and she's easily the most qualified person to run for the presidency in a long time. She will be a good President and all the haters need to get over their butt hurt.

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    9. Anonymous4:11 PM

      You can't win a general election with just registered democrats.

      When the two parties have caucuses and primaries they are playing games with the voters. They really don't want you to vote, just give them money. Make it look like a horse race, and give more $, so your candidate will win. The parties will create the rules to support the candidate that they want.

      Then they expect everyone else to come out for the general to pick their candidate. They really don't care what the voters really want, they wouldn't give it to them anyway. They already know how they will be voting, because the big donors have already told them.

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    10. Anonymous4:19 PM

      And Hillary whooped Bernie's ass in NY even though he tried to claim it as his own home state. Twice the money and Bernie still couldn't beat her. Apparently NY said F_CK BERNIE SANDERS!

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    11. Anonymous4:31 PM

      Ah, yes. Hillary as a carpet bagger. Yet another right wing talking point parroted by so-called progressives.

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    12. Anonymous4:32 PM

      So, what do you suggest as an alternative, 4:11? I'm really curious.

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    13. Anonymous7:22 PM

      Obama won without the Independents.

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  6. Anonymous12:21 PM

    "Elizabeth Warren Praises Hillary's Wall Street plan" -https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-praises-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/

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  7. Anonymous12:25 PM

    Today Sanders picked up 49 of 67 Washington State Congressional District pledged delegates today, to Clinton's 18, reducing the delegate deficit by 10% in a day. That's another reason he's staying in the race: as the state parties in the caucus states vote and as the Congressional District final votes come in, he knows he'll pick up delegates.

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    1. Anonymous12:54 PM

      I'm for Hillary and I want him to stay in, I want him to stay in until there in nothing left in the coffers for Baby Jane.

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    2. Anonymous1:05 PM

      Hillary picked up a bunch more delegates in Guam today ,too, but don't tell Tim Robbins! *wink*

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    3. Anonymous2:29 PM

      Guam doesn't count because...something, something.

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    4. 1 of 2 (I don’t usually like to do this, but math deserves detail)

      fivethirtyeight.com has the updated results. We knew Bernie won Washington, the delegates had just not yet been ‘added in’. From the look of this information, all is up to date. Clinton has 1705 and Sanders has 1420.

      There are 926 delegates left.

      Of the 4051 total delegates, an over 50% mark will be reached if a candidates gets 2026 delegates or more.

      Clinton needs 331 to reach that, Sanders needs 606 to reach that.

      Sanders may win the following states, and just for fun, let’s go ahead and award him ALL the delegates (as if he won over Clinton by, like, 99% to 1%):

      GROUP ONE
      WV - 29
      KY - 55
      OR - 61
      MY - 21
      SD - 20
      ND - 18 TOTAL 204 SANDERS: 1420 + 204 = 1624

      Now, let’s hypothesize Clinton will only at best tie with Sanders in all of the remaining races, and the delegates are essentially divided equally between them:

      GROUP TWO
      VI - 7
      PR - 60
      CA - 475
      NJ - 126
      NM - 34
      DC - 20 TOTAL 722 HALF OF TOTAL = 361


      CLINTON 1705 + 361 = 2066
      SANDERS 1624 + 361 = 1985

      http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/

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    5. 2 of 2 (‘cause ... math)

      My feeling is Clinton will get at least 30% of the delegates in Group One (see previous post), meaning the end total would be closer to CLINTON = 2128 and SANDERS = 1923.

      As for Group Two (see previous post), fivethirtyeight.com forecasts Clinton winning CA 61%-47% and NJ 59%-32%, so if we take a conservative 55% of those delegates for Clinton and keep the rest at 50% each, Clinton would add 391 delegates from Group Two and Sanders would add 331 delegates from Group Two.

      So, I’m going for the following as my predicted delegate count after all states and territories have weighed in:

      CLINTON = 1705 + 62 + 391 = 2158
      SANDERS = 1420 + 142 + 331 = 1893

      http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/

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    6. Anonymous4:30 PM

      Math is good.

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    7. Anonymous4:33 PM

      Neither candidate can win enough delegates to be declared the winner going into the convention. That would require 50% of all the delegates - 2,383. The nomination will be decided by the votes of the superdelegates which is by definition a contested convention. The superdelegate votes will be negotiated in backroom negotiations like they were in the days before primaries when all the states' delegations were comprised of party leaders and elected officials.

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    8. Anonymous5:30 PM

      Maybe most of the Superdelegates actually prefer Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders. I know it's hard to believe, but it could be true!

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    9. Anonymous7:24 PM

      4:33 - Obama did not have a contested convention in 2098 and the super delegates put him over! This is ridiculous! She won this year fair and square.

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    10. @4:33,

      If your number of 2383 is correct, and I have no reason to believe it is not, Hillary Clinton can achieve that number without superdelegates.


      CLINTON 1705 + 926 = 2631 (greater than 2383)

      OR

      SANDERS 1420 + 926 = 2346 (less than 2383)

      Now, will either candidate get all those delegates? Of course not.

      But Sanders clearly cannot leap the hurdle. He needs the superdelegates way more than his opponent does.

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    11. Anonymous6:15 AM

      Marvin, Clinton would have to win 73% of the remaining pledged delegates to get to 2,383 on pledged delegates. Sanders can't get to 2,383. Since neither candidate will have 2,383 going into the convention on pledge delegates alone, it is by definition a contested convention.

      7:24 - 2008 wasn't a contested convention because Clinton conceded 4 days after the last primary, a month before the convention. If she'd hung in there, it would have been a contested convention. The deal the DNC and Obama offered her to concede, including paying off her campaign debt, was sweet enough for her to concede. It remains to be seen whether Sanders can be incentivized to concede before the convention. There's no financial incentive because his campaign hasn't borrowed any money. For him it will be about the platform and a voice. In my view it would be better for this country and the Dem Party to duke that out in the open at the convention for the nation to see than to do some back room deal.

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    12. Anonymous7:16 AM

      You're accusing Clinton of conceding because she was given financial incentive in a backroom deal. That's a hefty charge. I'm sure you have proof beyond your gut feeling.

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    13. Anonymous7:36 AM

      6:15 - he won't concede because he hates the Democratic Party! He is graceless!! Such has been.

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  8. Anonymous12:31 PM

    He has lost his mind...

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  9. Anonymous12:47 PM

    Meanwhile...

    Donald Trump Threatens To Default On The National Debt

    ...“I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal,” Trump told CNBC. If the U.S. borrowed too much and invested its fresh cash in unproductive products, Trump would tell creditors to accept less than what he’d initially agreed to.

    Another way to describe this plan: “I would default on the national debt.” Except Trump also told CNBC that he wouldn’t default on the debt, because advocating contradictory positions is part of his #brand.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-default-national-debt_us_572d08e3e4b096e9f0917fac

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  10. I read your posts regularly and appreciate all the work you do, but, with respect, let me point out the problem with your statement "He brings nothing to the table that would help her in any way."

    I am 64 but have spoken to a lot of young folks, and I attended the Portland (OR) rally with 28,000 fellow supporters, and Bernie brings a level of enthusiasm that the Hillary campaign is lacking, and if that can be translated into actual votes (yes, a big if), this is very good news.

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    1. Anonymous1:56 PM

      But if those people are enthusiastic, that can translate into votes for her too. The reason Hillary doesn't generate that as much is that she's been Hillary for 30 years! Bernie has operated in the shadows of Vermont, and MCBNC when it was slightly a liberal network. Otherwise, who knew him? If they care about this country, they will never vote GOP.

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    2. Anonymous2:09 PM

      His politics are trite, his experience even after 25 years is zero, his attitude stinks and he's hiding his tax returns.

      I want him out of my party, the sooner the better. He has nothing to offer except the unwanted Paul libertarian army. And fuck them too.

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    3. Anonymous2:29 PM

      The enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton has shown up in the voting booths. She's ahead by a wide margin. It's fine and dandy to have thousands of people showing up for a rally, but if you can't get more votes, you lose.

      Frankly, I just don't understand how people can talk about an enthusiasm gap and ignore the fact that Sanders is losing the popular vote and not by a small margin.

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    4. Anonymous4:30 PM

      Meh, I haven't seen that enthusiasm in my own state, but then I don't live in a primarily white state.
      Maybe it's time you white people realize you aren't the only ones voting.

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  11. Anonymous12:48 PM

    Sanders Calls Out MSNBC’s Corporate Ownership — In Interview On MSNBC

    ...Maddow acknowledged the unusually frank nature of the exchange, teasing it in the preceding segment just before the commercial break.

    “That was awkward. But in a good way, I think,” Maddow said after previewing the key moment.

    “I’ll check if I’m still here after the commercial break,” she added, joking that the interview might have put her job at risk.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-asks-who-owns-msnbc_us_572e3d0fe4b0bc9cb0471df1

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    1. Anonymous2:06 PM

      I dropped Maddow months ago. Then I dropped the rest of MSNBernieChannel.

      They're going to be sorry after the nomination.

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    2. Anonymous4:32 PM

      Except Bernie has had " Pro Bernie" hour long interviews with Maddow on that network and never complained. Well guess what Bernie Maddow isn't the only voter

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  12. Mr Sanders is a poor choice electorally, Ms Clinton will likely choose Julian Castro, former Mayor of San Antonio, Texas and current Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

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    1. Anonymous4:33 PM

      If she is being smart she will, she would win by a landslide because while white people haven't realized it yet they are not in control of nat'l elections anymore.

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    2. Anonymous6:51 PM

      Lots of us have and we aren't sad about it.

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  13. Anonymous12:57 PM

    This attitude that he can act and say anything and then expects things from others is why he has no friends, and not even any work friends from over the decades.
    A VP needs to be able to represent the president and their policies and goals and Bernie is not capable of thinking outside the box of his own mind.
    And then for him to expect to be selected after he has continally attacked Hillary is beyond my imagination that a sane person could even think she would select him, he has got to be senile or else he is just that stupid,

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  14. Anonymous1:12 PM

    As an Independent I am disappointed in his going over to the Dems to run. He could have stood alone and made a difference but instead he got into bed with the status quo and he wonders why the party loyal Dems won't embrace him.

    If you dance to the beat of a different drummer, for fuck's sake, don't get in bed with a group of people who toe the party line!

    The whole thing has been ridiculous and for those of us that operate outside of party borders, and proudly, we can't forgive him this gigantic mis-step.

    Left-leaning independents, undeclared and non-partisan folks are in the same quandary as the GOP establishment is; we are unable to put our support behind the presumptive Dem nominee, but we are left empty handed having no one to support in this round.

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    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      You re not empty handed. Vote for the person who cares about the people. Period. But kudos for getting 'toe the party line" correct!

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    2. Anonymous2:04 PM

      Oh poor you, your country's heart bleeds for you and your empty hands.

      You sound more like a Trump supporter to me.

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    3. Anonymous2:26 PM

      !:54 PM, you made my day. :)

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    4. Anonymous2:27 PM

      Sure, 1:54, only ONE candidate "cares about the people."

      [eyeroll]

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    5. Anonymous3:37 PM

      You all make me so sad. Guess I will just vote for Trump. Let's just blow this shit up and see what happens! I'm really ALL IN if it shuts you hateful people up.

      I think we are very much in for a New America. Get used to it. I am going to invest my money in Kleenex so that when you are wiping your vast ocean of tears I'll make some money off your dumb asses.

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    6. Anonymous4:28 PM

      You were always going to vote for Trump, 3:37.

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    7. Anonymous4:35 PM

      Bernie has never cared about anyone but Bernie, hell he didn't even care about his own child. ( Or first wife when he knocked up his gf).

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  15. If Bernie Sanders wanted a say in how the Democratic party organizes its election affairs, he should have been a participating member for the last 25 years. You can't just waltz in, announce you're a Democrat running for a national office, and expect the party to fall in adoration [via dollars] at your feet.

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  16. Anonymous1:24 PM

    That makes me sick about the guy ripping the sign out of the little girl's hands, and especially that it was signed by HRC!

    I am yet another person who was very interested in what Bernie had to say, and long before I stopped liking him, I started to notice that most of his tweets were on the same few topics, and it was just the same thing over and over.

    After watching 2 debates with a completely open mind, I made my decision for Hillary, as he seemed to only care about domestic issues. He also didn't seem to care much about women's issues.

    But this whining and complaining, first about closed primaries, as if they are deliberately set up to prevent his followers from voting, and then the debacle with the Pope, then his refusal to release tax forms, I have swung completely over to being disgusted by this man.

    I read on Huffpo last week in the comments section (that are so vile, much like IM is becoming lately), someone said, "what most of you libs don't understand is that many of us Berners are republicans." That explains a lot.

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    1. Anonymous1:44 PM

      IM is vile? We're just speaking our mind and we have every right to.

      Visit c4p sometime and see how vile "Christians" are, and they ban anyone that disagrees with them.

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    2. Anonymous1:53 PM

      Well, yeah. And many more are 'independents' like Bernie, and the thought of voting for someone in a party makes them ill.
      As far as Bernie as VP--NO. The RNC would wet themselves: "Old and Older" would not win over many undecideds.

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    3. Anonymous3:41 PM

      1:53pm

      I hear ya, our family is going for Jill Stein, Green Party. The more of us the vote for her the more likely the Green Party is accepted as a Federally accepted alternative and gets equal funding from the Government during elections.

      Go Green!

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    4. Anonymous4:27 PM

      I wonder why Bernie didn't choose to run on the Green Party ticket.

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    5. Anonymous7:29 PM

      Jill,Stein, who was held at a "dark site" by "16 guards" in 2012 when she tried to storm the Presidential debates? At least that's what she tweeted last month. (Yes, she's not a wacko or anything...)

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  17. Anonymous1:33 PM

    He's coming across as a lunatic now!

    Plus, he looks like one when not properly 'made' to be, or look, acceptable and/or political as to his clothes and hair!

    Now, what will they do to make his wife appear more first lady-ish? After all, she is supposedly the driver and force behind Bernie!

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  18. Anonymous1:36 PM

    Unfortunately Sander's supporters have made their focus attacking Hillary Clinton with regurgitated Hannity/tea party/Faux conspiracies and mindless distortions. It has distanced Bernie from the Democratic Party and sealed his fate.

    In the beginning Sander's HAD a great message. But even as his momentum was building, Bernie supporters swung to a crazed right-wing, tea party-type campaign moving away from the details of his core ideas. Most BernieBots are hopelessly brainwashed no different from Trump lunatics in my opinion. Where are their attacks on Trump?

    I am totally sick and tired of hearing Bernie's demands and the vitriol spewed by his supporters.

    2016 Hillary has my support and vote.

    2017 Bernie who?

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  19. Caroll Thompson1:58 PM

    Bernie has let his adoring crowds go to his head. He is not a Democrat for one. He is losing for two. I will be damned if he is going to put his pie in the sky ideas in the platform for the Republicans to hit Hillary with all the way to November.

    And I am not seeing the difference between the Dumbsters and the Bernie bros. Both groups act like thugs.

    Let's get a real Democrat on the ticket. Let's have Elizabeth Warren. A Clinton/Warren ticket is a winning ticket. Clinton/Sanders, not so much.

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  20. Anonymous2:00 PM

    I don't want this conniving old fossil anywhere near my president. He can go to hell and take his crooked wife with him.

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  21. I understand he wants people of his choosing to sit on the DNC's various committees. The people chosen by the DNC, however, are by choice, Democrats; not Independents running as Democrats for convenience. Those chosen have worked hard through the ranks inside the party. They have every right to be chosen first. These are people who will remain and work within the party long after those who have little or no experience who are currently supporting Bernie. Of course most inside the DNC support Hillary, she is one of them ... an actual Democrat, one who I might add is extremely qualified to be president. I still like Bernie. I like some of his ideas. But what I don't like is his sense of entitlement within a party he was and never would be a part of if not for the convenience of his presidential desires. He complains the Democratic rules are stacked against him, and his supporters lap it up and blame Hillary. Yet he knows, and fails to add that those rules have been in place for years ... long before he or Hillary ever thought thought of running. I was disappointed last night in the Rachel Maddow's interview that he is supportive of his followers to protest outside Hillary's rallies. Why? I understand protesting against Republicans, but not against a fellow comrade. Of course he is correct, people have the right to protest, but again, why? His feeling of entitlement? I just see a sense of viciousness masked as a pleasant older man toward Hillary & the Democratic Party. It's been clear to me with Jane, but last night, even though I liked much of what he said, I saw that viciousness in him. Sorry I sent him money early in his campaign, but happy I also gave to Hillary, and have continued to do so. I just wish all this bullshit was over. (Apologies for the lack of paragraphs as my cell phone goes all wonky on me).

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  22. Anonymous2:16 PM

    I think Matt Bermudez made that up about someone tearing up a girl's sign. So many people, so many cameras, so many police, so many news media but there's no pictures, no video, no report of it that doesn't give Bermudez's tweet as the source. Bermudez posted no pictures of the event nor made any tweets that he was attending, on his way, in line, there. Pegs my BS meter on "Total Bullshit".

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    1. Anonymous2:55 PM

      Exactly. but good old reliable Gryph doesn't hesitate to post Total Bullshit.

      Gryph, your daughter is one lucky girl to get a dad who drags her ideas so thoroughly through the mud. Good job, asshole.

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    2. Anonymous3:02 PM

      @2:16
      Yup.
      SOMEONE would have a pic or video.
      The saying "pics or it didn't happen" applies here.

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    3. Anonymous3:16 PM

      Denial - one of the stages of grief

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    4. Anonymous3:40 PM

      I think his daughter doesn't even live here in AK because their Glenn Studios project hit mud and she has to live elsewhere to find work.

      That being said, there is an exciting new project happening in the Glenn Studios in Palmer, a project that will actually come to fruition and make lots of money.

      Looking forward to it, better than the reality show crap and possible movie projects they were trying to use the building for.

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    5. Anonymous4:14 PM

      You do realize that a good share of people do not live through their phones and cameras. Not everyone is 18n with a camera attached to their hand. Heck, most days I look at my phone in the morning and maybe the night.

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    6. Anonymous4:24 PM

      If a kid's sign autographed by Hillary Clinton was torn up by a protestor, the pictures, the video, the interview with the kid's pissed off Mom and her distraught child would be all over the news and social media. Didn't happen. It's like the backwards B girl. Hoax.

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    7. Anonymous4:26 PM

      Why do you care so much about Gryphen's daughter. It's creepy.

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    8. Anonymous5:08 PM

      She stays busy trying to bed SJ and while Gryphen is chasing MJ. All of them are trashy.

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    9. Anonymous7:32 PM

      5:08pm

      Ewww!

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  23. Anonymous3:44 PM

    AHEM!
    Read the truth.
    "In the 2008 Democratic Primary on May 6 - Hillary had to win 73.6% of the rest of the race to tie Obama.
    No SD are added because they don't count until the convention at the first vote.
    May 6th 2008 Hillary - 1419 Obama - 1588 Obama Lead - 169 Number of Delegates Left - 358
    Sanders as of today needs to win roughly 65% of the votes to tie Hillary with 933 Delegates about 23%.
    Hillary stayed in the primaries until the end because it was close like it is this year and I applaud Hillary for doing that. Everybody should get to vote. I would of have preferred Hillary, went to the convention in 2008 for at least the first ballot but she choose to back Obama instead and I respect that.
    Hillary and Bernie are great candidates and with it this close I would like to see it go all the way to the end and who ever wins offers the other the VP spot. Between Hillary and Bernie there is just too much experience between the both of them to not have both of them on the ticket. Plus put Warren on the SCOTUS.
    This is 8 years I would gladly be behind and I would think a lot of other people would as well."
    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/4ic7jh/in_the_2008_democratic_primary_on_may_6_hillary/

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    1. Anonymous8:58 PM

      Bernie is no Barack Obama.

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  24. Anonymous3:51 PM

    The reality of the Democratic platform that is put forward every four years is that it is always far more liberal than possible. Everyone knows that. These are goals to work towards. Given the current atmosphere in Congress, getting 10% of a Democratic platform into law would be a miracle. Do Bernie Sanders and his supporters think that Democrats have been copies of the GOP platforms all these years that we've been without Bernie Sanders? No, they've been liberal and progressive agendas. But Sanders was never part of the equation because he's been too proud, stubborn, self-important to join the party.
    Beaglemom

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    1. Anonymous4:28 PM

      You say "goals to work towards" but many that tend to the center left or right/left actually see that things are fine as they are. The market is strong, we are trending towards cutting down entitlements and welfare/EBT for those that are abusing those entitlements. We are even starting to make inroads to cutting of SSDI for the cheaters that are ruining it for those that truly are disabled.

      I hope that whomever is elected will continue to travel the right of left and even further cull these programs that keep stealing our tax dollars. If Hillary can keep up that momentum, so be it, I'll vote for her,because right now America needs to cut off the freeloaders and force them to become part of the country, the part of the country that works , invests and provides for their own retirement, their own future, their own next meal. Too tired of the grifting element in these united states.

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    2. 4:28 ... you want a right of left president who will clamp down against possible cheaters of welfare and Social Security Disability. That is what the likes of the Koch brothers & their Republican friends propose. Why? To show the programs are not working as the "could" be. They want to disolve programs that help ordinary Americans. They strive to privatize many of our programs and assets. Not to benefit us, but to take as much treasure for themselves. They use Republicans & right wing media to feed propaganda to the public that the problems of our country is the fault of _____ ... name their victim in the blank space. There are cheats everywhere, but the cheats of welfare or SSDI are miniscule. You want to go after the cheats, then look at who is selling you this bullshit. Let's clamp down on the wealthy who pay little or no taxes, let's clamp down on corporate welfare, let's clamp down on war profiteers, let's go after the real cheating culprits. That's where the big money is, not those who manage to steal a few hundred here and there. Let's go after the billions upon billions of dollars owed to us by the dirty businessmen that the bought & paid for mostly Republican politician protect. I'll be happy to go after the little guy after we focus upon the big guys like the Koch brothers.

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    3. Anonymous4:43 AM

      Anon at 4:28 pm. No one with a liberal viewpoint, and that includes virtually all Democrats including Hillary Clinton, thinks that things are "fine as they are" because there are too many inequities in our society.

      Democrats work towards improving those inequities but that means working WITH Congress and that, whenever the Republicans have been in control of one or both Houses, has been an impossibility during the past eight years. What progressive legislation was enacted was passed during the first two years of President Obama's first term. Just think how much farther along this country would be had President Obama's original stimulus bill been passed, if his original health care bill had been passed, if the jobs bills that were proposed in Congress but never saw the light of day on the floor of either the House or the Senate had been passed, if Congress had continued to act to protect workers' rights, combat climate change, provide more equality, more funding for housing and education and stricter gun controls. These are all areas where the GOP has absolutely refused to cooperate since January 2011 and they are all areas where the Democratic platforms have aimed to move the country forward.

      Yes, things are certainly better than they were by the end of the Bush era but there is a huge amount of work to be done still. And no one in the GOP seems interested in even trying. What they want to do is move everything back - make the rich even richer with nothing for those with the least, make health care unavailable to most, take back equal rights for all and ignore the realities of climate change.

      If we can't have another eight years with President Obama and a Democratic Congress, let's elect Hillary Clinton and give her a Democratic Congress to work with. Then we'll see some real progress again.
      Beaglemom

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  25. Anonymous4:22 PM

    One of the duties of the DNC as described in its charter is to "assure that the Democratic nominee for the office of President of the United States is selected by a fair and equitable process" and committees should be representative of the membership. The DNC should not be showing favoritism to or promoting any candidate or filling committees with mostly Clinton supporters.

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    1. Anonymous4:44 PM

      @4:22
      BINGO!

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    2. Anonymous7:03 PM

      "...committees should be representative of the membership." Note the word membership. The majority of the Democratic Party MEMBERS support Hillary. That's why Bern doesn't do so well in closed primaries and primaries that don't let you join the party on the day of the primary.

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  26. Anonymous4:47 PM

    Even most Sanders' supporters don't want to pay the taxes required for his 'revolution'.

    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/4/14/11421744/bernie-sanders-tax-revolution

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    1. Anonymous5:35 PM

      Bernie supporters all wanted "free stuff" until they found out that "free stuff" had a price tag.

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  27. Anonymous4:48 PM

    It is really sad to see people who think they support Democratic principles fall for a Wall Street Democratic candidate and reject a New Deal Democratic candidate. The Oligarchy will continue to rule. Sad

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    1. Anonymous5:28 PM

      Yes, we are all stupid sheep and you are Neo, the enlightened one.

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    2. Anonymous5:34 PM

      And let me guess, you support the long term career politician that has done nothing in 30 yrs? Take your Bernie bro shit and shove it, no one wanted it 30 yrs ago and we don't want it today.

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    3. Anonymous7:34 PM

      @4:48 - Elizabeth Warren praises Hillary's Wall Street plan - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/07/elizabeth-warren-praises-hillary-clintons-wall-street-plan/

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  28. Anonymous5:05 PM

    In this clip from the Rachel Maddow Show, one of television media’s only remaining anchors worthy of our trust and respect sits down with middle-class champion Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) to discuss the rise of Donald Trump and the backlash we’re facing from our allies across the world.

    Maddow begins by informing us as to the results of the recent mayoral election in London, United Kingdom, where the Labour Party won a sweeping victory and elected Sadiq Khan as the first-ever Muslim mayor of London after a bitter campaign that saw his Conservative Party opponent using “tactics straight out of the Donald Trump playbook” against him.

    The host notes that under Trump’s policies, the Mayor of the capital of our closest overseas ally would not be allowed to enter the United States, an idea so absurd that the two share a hearty laugh. Returning to a more serious discussion, Sanders mourns that Trump is already hurting the image of the United States abroad just “by virtue of the fact that the Republican Party picked him” to be their nominee.

    “A) Trump is not going to get elected President” Sanders says confidently. “My campaign is running, in the latest poll, sixteen points ahead of Trump. And B) as a United States Senator I will do everything in my power to make sure that that absurd, hateful proposal never happens. What your question is really asking is all over the world, people are looking at America, anywhere with a Muslim population – it’s a worldwide religion – and they’re asking what is going on in the United States? Why do they hate us?…he is managing to antagonize large populations of the world against the United States, and that is unacceptable.”

    The reputation of the United States, dragged through the mud by the neocolonial wars of the George W. Bush Administration, is finally on the way up. It’s extremely frustrating to see years of work being thrown away by the Republican Party by the howls of their bigoted death rattle.

    http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/05/07/bernie-sanders-explains-trump-already-destroying-americas-image-around-world/

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  29. Anonymous5:54 PM

    OT - another reason it would be bad for Sanders to win the Dem nomination: people are as unfavorable towards socialism as always, and favorable of capitalism. Sanders doesn't just call himself a democratic socialist; he's on record saying 'I'm not a capitalist.'

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/191354/americans-views-socialism-capitalism-little-changed.aspx?platform=hootsuite

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    1. Anonymous7:30 PM

      Duh. Thanks but no thanks to the government giving away my hard earned money. Capitalism all the way, I'll give my money only if I choose to and chose to whom to give it.

      America is socialist enough already.

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  30. Anita Winecooler6:52 PM

    Hell, I'd be open to being Hillary's running mate, too! I wonder how long Debbie laughed when she read that letter.

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    1. Anonymous7:13 AM

      You guys suck, the entire process is rigged, you're all corporate whores, your candidate is a money launderer and you're her accomplice!

      By the way, is the VP nominee job still available? I'll fax over my resume.

      hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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    2. Anonymous5:23 AM

      LOL

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  31. Anonymous6:57 AM

    He has a good point about it being rigged. However, he is a whiney little bitch like Trumpenstein. Hillary is the only adult in the room now.

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  32. Anonymous7:50 AM

    Speaking of whiny little bitches…

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  33. Anonymous5:22 AM

    Who the fuck wants Sanders in their administration.

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