Sunday, May 29, 2016

Creationist Ken Ham is really upset that Bill Nye is indoctrinating young children....with actual science.

Courtesy of The Friendly Atheist:

 Nye said in a recent interview that teaching Creationism may be legal, but it’s a form of brainwashing. Referring to Ham, he said, “He can believe whatever he wants. He can run around influencing all the adults he wants; it’s the kids that are gonna be a burden on me. They’re gonna be scientifically illiterate…” 

Ham, as usual, took that to mean Nye wants to take away his rights, somehow, and that teaching evolution was just pushing a different religion onto children.

Here is what Ham tweeted in response:

You know I imagine it is really hard from somebody as criminally ignorant as ken Ham to understand, but teaching children facts is not indoctrination.

It's education. 


  1. Anonymous4:15 AM

    NO! Not EDUCATION! Then those children will learn to become thinking teenagers who refuse to buy into their parents' (mom's?) faux Christianity, and then the money for abominations like Ham's 'museum' will dry up and his old Ark will just rot away. My town has 52 'churches' not paying any taxes on loads of acres of land, nor helping with roads, schools, or any other services their congregations use. It is past time for churchgoers to recognize that they can live in their little bubble, but the rest of us are here as well, and all of us benefit from a strong government, which only happens when there is revenue.

  2. Leland4:32 AM

    "You know I imagine it is really hard from somebody as criminally ignorant as ken Ham to understand, but teaching children facts is not indoctrination.

    It's education."

    Sorry, not to jackasses like Ham and others of his ilk. They FEAR education because it makes the educated more open-minded and critical. And FAR less likely to continue the beliefs hammered into them as we have been seeing for the past number of years.

    Ham is a dinosaur and is incapable of recognizing that. I, for one, will be ecstatic when he himself - along with others like him - is actually a fossil.

  3. Anonymous5:20 AM

    Evolution is in no way a religion! Why can't we deport Ham back to Australia?

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  4. Anonymous7:02 AM

    Over at the Oz Mudflats, they say the Aussies refer to Ken Ham as, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry."

    The hubby and I got a big laugh.

  5. Anonymous9:30 AM

    Ham is a shyster. He's also not very bright but bright enough to herd some sheeple.

  6. Anonymous10:06 AM

    For the nine millionth time, science is not a religion. It is a method of understanding the world around us based on visible (aided and unaided) evidence, which includes an edit to discard a "tenet" when that "tenet" proves to be untrue based on more evidence or a better method of examination. It is self correcting.

    Religion a method of understanding the world based on faith, which by definition ignores evidence, and specifically enjoins followers to reject and fear questioning (doubting Thomas) is static. Thus it can never explain the physical world.

    1. Leland10:30 AM

      10:06, please? You are preaching to the choir here.

      As for that damned fool Ham? He thinks he has hit upon a way of convincing others of his point of view and will NEVER agree with ANYTHING truly logical or half-way intelligent.

      At this point, he CAN'T change anyway since he has backed himself into a corner. And like any cornered rat, he will continue to attack until death.

      In other words, you are wasting your breath. He'll change ONLY when he begins to decompose after death.

  7. Tennessee Christian12:21 PM

    "They’re gonna be scientifically illiterate…”

    There are times when we all are scientifically illiterate:


    "My failure is part of a failed scientific system, where average people cannot understand what average scientists do."

    I like Bill Nye. And Ken Ham. Just the way they are. There is enough room in the world for both.

  8. Anita Winecooler3:59 PM

    So much not kosher with Ham's way of thinking, science and myth are two different things, calling one the other doesn't make it so. But I don't blame him for his obvious jealousy of Bill Nye's truth.

  9. Indoctrinate is the wrong word to use here.

    Neither Bill Nye nor Ken Ham are scientists, theologians, or philosophers. Nye has the upper hand for reasons that are obvious to most people, up to a point. He's banging a popular drum in his desperate quest to earn a living by latching onto a current meme.

    Joke's on him. Most of us, regardless of atheism or belief, are a few steps ahead of him.

    When local entertainers go bad. What could be worse.

  10. Anonymous6:34 AM

    Ken Ham used to teach me science at high school in Dalby QLD and he is a scientist and educated and really smart. He just loves God too.. (He's not a shyster.) I'm not religious so I probs wasn't his favourite student but he was a quiet serious man who LOVED science ...and God. And his wife Meg was lovely, also a teacher. I like the sound of his ark... A former high school student.


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