Courtesy of Salon:
Donald Trump’s “policy is just like whatever’s floating in the air around him. It’s not been what he’s running on,” Maddow said. “He’s sort of running on who he is … He’s a big rich guy who doesn’t pay attention to what people want from him, and he’s willing to be politically incorrect and self-funding.”
“If you don’t go at who he is,” she continued, “and you try to keep it based on his policies — which he doesn’t even understand let alone necessarily believe in — I think you kind of miss the point and you miss the chance to actually take him apart where it counts.”
I agree with this completely.
And it is not as if Trump is not offering up ammunition to use against him every day.
For instance:
In a phone call to NBC’s “Today” program Friday morning after this article appeared online, Trump denied that he was John Miller. “No, I don’t think it — I don’t know anything about it. You’re telling me about it for the first time and it doesn’t sound like my voice at all,” he said. “I have many, many people that are trying to imitate my voice and then you can imagine that, and this sounds like one of the scams, one of the many scams — doesn’t sound like me.” Later, he was more definitive: “It was not me on the phone. And it doesn’t sound like me on the phone, I will tell you that, and it was not me on the phone. And when was this? Twenty-five years ago?”
Then, Friday afternoon, Washington Post reporters who were 44 minutes into a phone interview with Trump about his finances asked him a question about Miller: “Did you ever employ someone named John Miller as a spokesperson?”
The phone went silent, then dead. When the reporters called back and reached Trump’s secretary, she said, “I heard you got disconnected. He can’t take the call now. I don’t know what happened.”
This contest might literally come down to a question, not about who is more trustworthy, or experienced, but rather who is actually sane enough to do the job.
I'm watching MSNBC right now covering Donald Trump acting as his own PR agent back in the day! Trump, of course, is saying it is NOT his voice!
ReplyDeleteWhy isn't a news outlet doing a voice comparison between now and then of The Donald? There are tests that can CONFIRM if the voices are both from the same individual, which I think they are! They won't do it to keep the news coverage going on Donald Trump. This bullshit needs to stop!!! Have a test done CNN, MSNBC, NBC or any of the corporate owned outlets.
It is Trump's voice and is easy to decipher to the human ear!
Do your work media and journalist! Prove to America that the guy is a fraud, liar and total jerk! Most of us already think he is. He is a man who is a proven pathological liar! John Miller, Baron and Donald Trump are one and same. (think of his youngest son having to live with all of this! The kid is doomed and his Dad did it to him!)
Corporate America is leading all of this and they want Trump elected.
CNN did. The forensic voice expert said it was Trump!
DeleteGood for CNN!
DeleteAnd the CNN guy even said Jihadi John in the same sentence. It was LOL (that's how they analyzed JJ's voice) - sjp
DeleteSo Trump says the voice isn't his. It's not "supposed" to be his; it's supposed to be his press agent's. I think Trump is confused in his own defense.
DeleteCNN Rolls Out Two Witnesses and an Audio Forensics Expert to Confirm Trump Is ‘John Miller’
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Former People Reporter on 1991 ‘John Miller’ Phone Call: It’s ‘Absolutely’ Trump
http://www.mediaite.com/online/former-people-reporter-on-mysterious-1991-john-miller-phone-call-its-absolutely-trump/
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DeleteIn the Today show interview Trump said there are countless people trying to impersonate his voice. He is too stupid to realize this person was not supposed to be Trump at all, so why would the voice try to sound like Donald?
Good point 4:38
DeleteLet's talk taxes...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2015/11/17/clinton-foundation-amends-4-years-taxes-admits-speech-fees-werent-donations/#4827bb13364c
Yes, let's. Where are Trump's full taxes? Where are Bernie's full taxes?
DeleteBernie needs to be gone after too.....I find him unbelievable and he's got a horrible wife that runs him!
DeleteRachel Maddow and Salon can go to hell. They both overtly support Sanders, so what do they know about winning and what is their opinion worth?
ReplyDeleteI quit them both months ago when their bias first became evident. Even if Maddow still has a job after the election I'll never watch her again, she has thrown her credibility out of the window with her gagworthy fawning over Sanders and his wife.
Totally agree. I have lost the little respect I had for her. She's lost all her integrity.
DeleteWho else ferrets out real issues and brings them to the fore? Flint's horrendous water issues went without coverage until Rachel took it up. Nothing was being done until she got on the band wagon and opened the media to the horrors occurring in the children and citizens there - life long, irreparable, expensive health issues.
DeleteWhat other "journalist" has railed against the awful explosions and the impossible, yes, impossibility. of cleaning up the leaking oil and the inadequate construction of the train cars transporting the oil across our nation?
No other journalist is bringing the issues to the attention of the citizens. Her program is focused on taking care of serious, damaging and ongoing wrongdoing in our country.
Did you or have you watched all the times she interviewed Hillary Clinton? Have you listened when she said she asked GOP legislators to come on the show and of course they said no?
I think Rachel is trying to appear nonbiased until dems have a nominee. I have seen commentary from her that is not flattering to Sanders. It does, however, make me sick when she appears to fawn over the sanders.
DeleteTrump's sociopathy is becoming more apparent every day.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The man is CRAZY.
DeleteNo Trump will never be elected. Right now he is the media click bait like Palin used to be. Like the Kim Kardashion who the majority hates. Every Trump article gets a lot of remarks. The press will eventually take that sucker down and dig into his and Melania's world.
ReplyDeleteThe press is like a cat with a mouse and he is about done with his free ride, sure they use people but the more people who stand out against this asshole the more the press will eventually take him down.It may be a story to them right now but reporters are not as dumb as you think and the tides will turn.
They may not be that dumb, but they are run by their corporate masters. Investigative journalism is dead; all sensationalism.
DeleteJust wait. The hounds will be unleashed on The Donald.The pen is mightier than the sword.
DeleteWell, there are STILL people who are willing to vote for him. Stupid is alive and well, as we all know from some of the gop contenders who thought THEY were qualified for the WH. After W made it - TWICE- every clown in the gop considered themselves qualified, even Mrs, PayMe. Intelligence is not required to be a member of the gop/tp. In fact, they scorn it. Crazy is their style.
DeleteIf tRump is elected, maybe he will hire John Miller, or even Barron as his spokesperson? We will never see them, just a voice behind a curtain. How, in the name of all that's holy, can people be fooled by this lunatic?
DeleteI find this very disturbing. To think that there is a possibility, no matter how small, that he could be elected is chilling. Such a juvenile reaction - hanging up on the call! There is something very wrong with this man.
ReplyDeleteAnd Boehner just threw in his support. "He's the nominee, it's about winning."
DeleteReally? It's about winning, even if your guy is insane. God help this planet.
There's definitely something wrong with him and something wrong with anyone who would vote for him.
DeleteThe Republican party is one screwed up mess including the likes of John Boehner, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, etc.!
DeleteJHC! What a horrid cast of white, racist folks! I wouldn't claim one of them!
No kidding. Nut case rump. Just like sarah crusty, writing own support letters. There is something seriously wrong with these inbreds.
DeleteHow to stop Trump- PISS HIM OFF! He has a really thin skin. Constantly hurl his skeletons and his past at him (he has countless dirt). Trump will scream louder and louder like a BABY and hurl even more ridiculous rhetoric until even the semi stupid will see what a HORROR Trump really is! Trump's temper tantrums will do him in.
ReplyDeleteI believe that is exactly what Hillary will be doing. She not only knows him personally, but has said that her campaign team has more than enough ammunition. Trumpty Dumpty (not mine but I love it!) has the thinnest of skins and obviously cannot bear having anyone call him out on his lies and errors. He responds every time like a 6-yr-old. It's gonna be good, folks, and we in the rest of the world are going to enjoy it to the fullest!
DeleteVisit any RWNJ site, they love it!
DeleteI wouldn't be so sure.
I am loving this battle between the fake rich man Trump, and the guy who started Amazon, who now owns the Washington Post, and really IS filthy stinking rich.
DeleteI think I just read that Trump actually admitted years ago that he posed as someone hired to be his publicist. (I will look for a link)
Trump is such an idiot. What is that old saying...Don't pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel?
I wouldn't be too worried about his cadre of supporters. He needs the independents and women, and his antics are unlikely to persuade them to cast their vote for him. They are the ones who will be totally turned off.
Delete5:31, but he can't win with just the wing nut vote. He has to convince independents and sane Republicans that he can govern. God, the man can't even speak in paragraphs. He and Palin are study buddies, I think.
DeleteHe need to convince white women and minorities of both sexes. He just can't win.
DeleteAnon 5:03 and Maple 5:17, I think that is exactly what is happening now. That's why suddenly there are all these really juicy tidbits coming out. Democratic oppo is live!
DeleteHopefully, Priebus, Ryan and the likes will come out and speak about their unity with him and begin to really sign on the his cray cray act. Not an act to them, he will prove himself so presidential to them. They must make it clear how well the Republican establishment has vetted Trump. What a great art of the deal he is to turn them all around to supporting him. BWHHAHAHAHA!!!!
DeleteHe likely promised Ryan that once elected, he will let the current crop of gop rule in his stead. That could be why they are getting on his bandwagon now. Promises, promises. Ivana and Marla learned just how much his promises are worth, even vows mean nothing to this orange clown.
DeleteMay all republicans sign onto the sinking SS Trump
DeleteShe's right. The best way is to engage him on the topics, he's oblivious and immature. Or just ignore the hell out of him, take control of the conversation and make it all about her.
ReplyDeleteWell, there's the problem. If she makes it all about HER, she's going to lose.
DeleteShe will show herself as the centered, intelligent, competent person she is. That's all it will take. Trump is ignorant, unprepared, and easily unhinged. Even if someone doesn't particularly like Hillary Clinton, it's pretty clear which one is better prepared and qualified for the presidency.
DeleteWhy is it that people overseas see the TRUTH about these candidates, while the rednecks and racists in this country ignore it? The foreigners were right about W, they laughed at his stupidity, now they are correct about tRump, yet many follow him as though he is going to make them all millionaires. The man is nuts, from his white ringed eyes, to his phoy bank accounts, he lies daily. I do not believe he is as rich as he claims. He has left many, many creditors broke while spouting off about how wealthy he is. His tax returns will prove it is all smoke and mirrors.
Deletethe fact that so many people follow him is proof positive that the education system in this country is broken.
Actually, Maddow's point is exactly the opposite. She thinks if you debate him on his policies, "which he doesn’t even understand let alone necessarily believe in — I think you kind of miss the point and you miss the chance to actually take him apart where it counts.”
DeleteSo Maddow's advice is to "go at who he is,” because Trump is "running on who he is" rather than trying to attack him on his policies.
I agree.
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DeleteThe answer to the question you pose in your very first line is quite simple. The people who follow him ARE rednecks and racists! They LIKE that he's one, too!
the majority of the stump supporters are insecure men with small members
DeleteBush was/is no dummy.
DeleteBush has dyslexia which makes him look uneducated
DeleteThis is what I found interesting that the media overlooked about the Trump/Miller situation.
ReplyDeleteWhen Trump was asked if he was John Miller? Trump denied it by saying, "No, I don't think it, blah blah blah".
Donald what do you mean you don't think it, then stopped short of saying something?
"Don't think it" should not have been part of your answer if you know that was not you. If that wasn't you then say, "No that was not me" (period).
NBC Today:
Trump denied that he was John Miller. “No, I don’t think it — I don’t know anything about it.
Today Show blew the interview. They let his 'no' stand is spite of him admitting the alter-ego in interviews and court testimony. Trump whined and said he wanted to talk about current topics and Matt Lauer complied.
DeleteOf course Matt Lauer did, he's a pussy!
DeleteLook at the dress down that Natalie and he got from queenie $arah for asking her about Track's domestic abuse. Paraphrasing, "this was not agreed to," shaking as she was. Too damned bad, bitch.
Happy Happy Joy Joy are all morning network shows. True journalists, NOT.
And on that subject? Diva Kelly Ripa whining about Michael Strahan. PLEASE get over yourself. Same to the divas on the dead lake Wasilla.
For a guy who claims he has "the world's greatest memory", Trump sure seems to forget a lot.
DeleteHe's mentally unstable & unhealthy. nein.
ReplyDelete-sjp
Remember that not too long ago, tRump produced a statement from his doctor saying that if elected tRump will be the HEALTHIEST man EVER to take over the WH. Who the HELL is THAT? Is his doctor another of his alter egos? Look at his belly hanging over his belt, the orange face with white circles around his eyes. Look at the numerous chins, making him look neckless. Healthy? Yeah, I am sure John Miller, Baron and others in his circle (!!!) would agree. If elected, tRump will bring in his own people (such as these) to fill his cabinet. Hang on folks, we are in for a bumpy ride. He is certifiably NUTS.
DeleteAsk him about his admiration for Putin because trump would love to make us a captive audience and scared of him. Just like Putin.
ReplyDeleteSomehow I think Trump smells like a rotten potato and Sara, an old fish wrapped in a rotten washcloth
He admires Putin and has also expressed admiration for the Chinese reaction to Tiananmen Square and to North Korea's current dictator.
DeleteTrump has been in China's pocket for years.
DeletePoor Donny Boy is suffering from Electile Dysfunction
ReplyDeleteVery good! Electile Dysfunction. Ol' Sara(h) P and John McCain suffered from that in 2008, right?
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Look at that belly of his, he has not SEEN his "yuuuge penis" in years. Melaria never looks happy and content, does she? After Marla Maples cheated on the great Donald, he probably has guards 23/7 keeping Malaria in line.
DeleteI'd like to hear others opinion on why the voters are only now hearing about this "alter-ego" of Trump. Why didn't the press release this information months ago so everyone could laugh him off the stage at the debates? Did the press sit on this on purpose? Did the Clinton campaign have this dirt all along and are the ones who leaked this to the Washington Post? What do others think?
ReplyDeleteThe man is Sarah Palin crazy!!
The alter-ego story was known but it was only written about. And then WaPost got the audio. It's the audio that set off the media frenzy and full reporting.
DeletePalin is the (political) mother of Trump
DeleteBest headline ever. Mother Trumper works quite well too, furthermore and also too.
dowl
Washington Post said that it obtained the tape from a source who “asked to be identified only as a person with whom Carswell shared the microcassette of the call shortly after the interview.” After being contacted by the Post and hearing the tape for the first time in decades, Carswell said, “This was so farcical, that he pretended to be his own publicist.
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ReplyDeleteThis is OT, but I'm not sure if everyone checked out the Nordic State Dinner that was held for several heads of state. Here's a Politico link to pics. POTUS & FLOTUS were perfect, as usual:
http://www.politico.com/gallery/2016/05/nordic-state-dinner-photo-gallery-002260?slide=0
Thank you for this OT posting.
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There is no "who he is" there. He is very good at seeming to be whatever people want to see at any given time. Bernie is much the same, I have come to realize.
ReplyDeleteI've seen some ignorant comments about this. This was her only statement.
ReplyDelete"As you have undoubtedly heard, Levi just welcomed a baby with his girlfriend last week. Immediately, people wondered how I would respond to the news that my son Tripp has a new half-sister.
Which strikes me as a little odd. Though I don’t have much interaction with Levi, of course I’m happy for him. A child is a blessing and I know they are experiencing the joys (and challenges!) of having a newborn.
Tripp sent the new baby flowers, and we both wish all the best for her!"
Are you lost?
DeleteOr just an ID-10-T?
Get a life.
DeleteStalker.
DeleteThe infamous John Miller was also Bristol Palin's publicist? That sounds like a whopper of a lie.
Deleteha!
ReplyDeleteMegyn Kelly mocks CNN, MSNBC Trump coverage
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/megyn-kelly-mocks-cnn-223152
There is another angle to this story in that someone submitted this audio, and there are only a few possibilities. It is believed that this may have been a copy in Trump's possession. Possibly Marla Maples had it because she accompanied Trump to meet with the People reporter, Sue Carswell, who did the interview to apologize.
ReplyDeletenbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-denies-posing-publicist-1991-interview-n573766
"The Post released a full transcript from a 1991 interview between People reporter Sue Carswell and Miller. In it, Miller defends how Trump treated his ex-wife Ivana and links him to women like Madonna and former model Carla Bruni.
Miller said Madonna "called and wanted to go out with him, that I can tell you."
"That I can tell you" is a phrase familiar to anyone who has watched Trump during the 2016 race -- he uses it nearly every campaign stop and interview."
The Washington Post said that it obtained the tape from a source who “asked to be identified only as a person with whom Carswell shared the microcassette of the call shortly after the interview.” After being contacted by the Post and hearing the tape for the first time in decades, Carswell said, “This was so farcical, that he pretended to be his own publicist. Here was this so-called billion-dollar real-estate mogul, and he can’t hire his own publicist. It also said something about the control he wanted to keep of the news cycle flowing with this story, and I can’t believe he thought he’d get away with it.”
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Carswell has said she shared the tape with Marla Maples who cried when she heard it.
Rachel has to be the biggest over rated snoozefest ever. Boooooring.
ReplyDeleteShe does nothing but regurgitate what is already known or perceived, while wearing her nerd glasses and short haircut trying to act smart. She could at least be a hot lesbian to keep the audience engaged.
OK, you've creeped me out. Did you attend the same school to learn misogyny that tRump attended? Sorry you think women should look "hot" for you to watch on a news show. Perhaps Fox news would be more on your level.
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