Wednesday, May 18, 2016

With the Bernie Sanders campaign now defined by anger, frustration, and defiance many feel it is doing more harm than good to Democratic hopes in 2016.

First CNN would like to clear something up about the aggression shown by Sanders' supporters in Nevada. It was planned: 

Sanders officials say that the Democratic Party should embrace the senator's supporters, not repel them. While they say they don't condone the behavior of some of their supporters at the Nevada convention, they blame leaders of the Nevada Democratic Party for shutting out Sanders' backers, prompting the chaos. 

But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on. 

"You should not leave," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters in a meeting last week at the Rumor Boutique Hotel. "I'm going to repeat that, unless you are told by someone from the campaign ... that you can leave, you should not leave."

I am not sure what the Sanders' campaign thought would happen when they instruct their supporters to "take over" and refuse to leave, but clearly they should have expected anger, disruption, and death threats directed at the party chair. Because that is what happened.

Josh Marshall over at TPM now realizes that the problem with the Sanders campaign come from the top:

For months I'd thought and written that Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver was the key driver of toxicity in the the Democratic primary race. Weaver has been highly visible on television, far more than campaign managers tend to be. He's also been the one constantly upping the tension, pressing the acrimony and unrealism of the campaign as Sanders actual chances of winning dwindled. 

But now I realize I had that wrong. 

This should have been obvious to me. The tone and tenor of a campaign always come from the top. It wasn't obvious to me until now.

If you think that losing a staunch liberal like Josh Marshall is bad get a load of what Markos Moulitsas wrote over on the Daily Kos yesterday: 

Bernie Sanders lost the delegate battle at the Nevada State Democratic convention this past weekend, which only makes sense since he lost the state when voters voted. However, that didn’t stop one of the biggest explosions of outright crazy in Democratic politics in … forever.

Moulitsas then goes on to list all of the harassment directed at   State Democratic Party Chair Roberta Lange by Sanders supporters and sums the whole thing up thusly: 

This is no longer a presidential campaign. I don’t know what it is, but that moment has passed. 

They say when, as a liberal, you lose Kos. You have pretty much lost your progressive credibility.

But not to worry Bernie has at least somebody on his side.
Oh yeah Donald Trump is LOVING this constant talk of the Democratic party being unfair and claims of corruption coming from the Sanders supporters. He could not have asked for a better scenario going into the general.

I think it is now obvious to just about everybody who is not a rabid Sanders supporter that the campaign is over and whatever Bernie hoped to accomplish has now been tainted.

In fact the campaign itself seems to have recognized the writing on the wall as well, they just don't want to the people who are still blindly following them and sending them their beer money.

Courtesy of Politico:

A handful of high-level staffers have left Bernie Sanders’ campaign in recent days, including his director of technology and three of the four members of his original senior leadership team in California — a state his team has said is critical to his bid for the Democratic nomination. 

The moves come at a time of contraction for the campaign, which let go of hundreds of field staffers earlier this month amid slowed fundraising. 

There are ways to end a political campaign with some dignity, but it really seems at this point that moment has passed for Bernie Sanders.

Which is too bad because I really feel that many of the issues that Sanders brought up were very important to have been included in this campaign season. However they have now been discussed, the Democratic party has taken note, and Hillary has included some of them in her platform.

So for Bernie Sanders to drag this out until the July convention, where his supporters will undoubtedly disrupt the proceedings and cause mayhem, seems completely unnecessary and even potentially harmful.

No the Clinton campaign will NOT call for Sanders to end his campaign, they can't since it would scandalize his supporters and likely anger them into skipping the November elections entirely.

But he needs to.

And do you know what? On some level I think he knows that.

Well, at least he should.

217 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:38 AM

    Sanders seems to really love being the center of attention, having hordes of people with shining smiles, shouting out his name. When someone yells, Bernie or bust!, he can hardly contain his pleasure.

    His comments on what happened in Nevada were about him and his own objectives. It was 2% condemnation on the violent rhetoric and behavior being done in his name and 98% excuses, victimhood, and blackmail.

    I used to think Bernie was a nice guy. I don't think that any more.

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    1. Anonymous9:16 AM

      You're not the only one. I have heard from quite a few Sanders folks that they are done with him due to NV and his lame assed whining. They want a STRONG leader not a piss-ant whiny assed titty baby. Disgust at his behavior and near support for his violent cult followers has turned off all the people I know.

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    2. Anonymous9:17 AM

      I agree with you.

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    3. Anonymous9:23 AM

      I thought he was a nice guy, too. Totally believed him when he said he would not run a negative campaign, that it wasn't about him but about the issues. Wow, what a turnaround. I think it was that little bird, who told him he was the messiah, apparently.

      The Republicans are loving this. Depressing...

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    4. Anonymous9:25 AM

      Agree. Couldn't have said it better myself. And spot on with Anon.8:43 a.m. comment as well.

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    5. Anonymous9:42 AM

      Has he taken his "victimhood" lessons from Sarah Palin?
      Beaglemom

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    6. Anonymous9:56 AM

      Yes, very disappointed in what Sanders has let his campaign become in the last few months. We can only hope Trump is wrong when he says Bernie's supporters will switch their alliance to him.

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    7. Anonymous10:27 AM

      Is there any doubt that his campaign is being fueled, with $$$ as well as in spirit, in part by GOP forces looking to stir up sh*t? I can appreciate the idealism of his supporters, but it is indeed so very disheartening to see Sanders buy into it so eagerly.

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    8. Anonymous11:40 AM

      The perpetrators at the NV convention were NOT young folks, they were older adults.

      To jeopardize someone's job, and shut down the business where they are employed by bombarding it with relentless phone calls, threaten the safety of the children, grandchildren and the woman herself, reeks of domestic terrorism.

      Those despicable individuals who even threatened the safety of Barbara Boxer need to wear that label forever - DOMESTIC TERRORISTS!

      How low can citizens go? And who is condoning it? BS because he refuses to do anything about it. Trump promoting it too?

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    9. Anonymous1:06 PM

      Bernie Sanders Accepts Invitation To Debate Hillary Clinton On Fox News

      http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/18/bernie-sanders-accepts-invitation-debate-hillary-clinton-fox-news.html

      http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/05/bernie-sanders-fox-news-democratic-debate-223337

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    10. Anonymous1:12 PM

      Booing is domestic terrorism now. SMH

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    11. Anonymous1:24 PM

      Things like giving out phone numbers and all the negative calls, death threats are up to DOJ, Secret Service local authorities and so on to investigate.

      Hillary, Trump, Sanders or any candidate does not have to do that part.

      I haven't heard Wasserman Schultz say they are going to get to the bottom of the matter or who the culprits are. Please leave a link to that article.

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    12. Anonymous2:37 PM

      Republicans love this because they would never be this low. They can take the high road with the next leader of the free world and it is all due to Bernie Sanders since he is not a quitter.

      No one knows who the chair throwers are since no one saw the chairs thrown? Is there a video?

      The parts that can be verified must be dealt with by law enforcement. What is happening with that?

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  2. Anonymous8:43 AM

    Clinton doesn't have to do anything but stand back and continue to behave like the adult in the room. She will only be increasing her lead in the next few weeks and she has already turned toward the general election. Unlike Sanders, she doesn't have to run any kind of negative primary campaign.

    Sanders isn't being helpful and in many ways, he's being hurtful. But for everyone other than his most die hard supporters it only hurts himself.

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    1. Anonymous1:28 PM

      Do the Democrats demand Sanders to be helpful to Clinton. Is that their American way?

      Clinton is not an idiot. She is not going to step in this shit. The party will do all that for her.

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    2. Anonymous2:20 PM

      Yes, Clinton is smart to keep silent and have Debbie Wasserman Schultz do it her way.

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  3. Connie8:48 AM

    It is clear to me the rabid Bernie supporters have not read their history. The !Revolution! approach was tried in the sixties and it did not work. I'm not sure why they believe doing the same thing will work now. Oh, yeah, I do. :P

    If the Independent Bernie didn't like the Democratic rules then why on earth did align himself with the DNC? Don't like the rules? The only way to affect positive change is to join the organization and make the changes within the procedures allowed.

    This isn't romantic or heroic, in fact the process is rather boring - which is exactly the founding fathers intent. Hot heads tend to throw the baby out with the bathwater while cooler heads plan, gather allies, and propose change by doing their homework. New bathwater - and we get to keep the baby. Win/win.

    As the wife of a warrior, I understand it's much easier to just blow it all up (and for the annihilist within - more fun). However, please do not pretend to anything higher than the barbarism that has ruled humanity for millennia. If you advocate violence you've already taken the low road and honorable folk know this.

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    1. Anonymous9:41 AM

      BRAVO!

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    2. Anonymous11:00 AM

      Civil rights and women's rights movements really gained heat during the 60's. At least that's what they say....

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    3. Anonymous12:15 PM

      Oh yeah, the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, the end of the Vietnam War were all accomplished by being all boring and working in the established procedures. Just ask John Lewis.

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    4. Connie12:47 PM

      12:15PM - If the Revolution was successful please tell me where? The Voting Rights Act was gutted not so long ago. Citizens who don't share the sexuality of the majority still have to struggle for the same rights as everyone else. Women don't earn the same salary for the same job as their male counterparts, so yeah, tell me how we've won the revolution.

      Interesting you include John Lewis. Since he went from peaceful protester to congressman, I'd have to say he agrees with me. Peaceful protest leads to working through the system which leads to change. Game, set, match.

      Violence (doxxing, throwing shade, and lies are all part of being harmful and will only beget more violence. Until everyone is treated as an equal, no one has true equality.

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    5. Anonymous1:11 PM

      Connie - "throwing shade" is violence? HAHAHAHA!!

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    6. Anonymous2:49 PM

      Many candidates have rabid supporters. Now it has become a full time job for some to push the meme 'Bernie rabid supporters'.

      When I hear that gibberish it sounds like robots that have their script handed to them by some top Democratic leadership staff.

      Someone who is not to take sides finds ways to promote those memes with the intention of taking someone out.

      Those memes become meaningless, except to say it is a shame what the Democratic National Committee is doing.

      How weak and scared they are. It may work for them, or it could take them out when people catch on.

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    7. Connie4:23 PM

      I will call out extreme behavior where I see it. Violating boundaries because rules were followed is hardly the actions of adults. Don't like the rules? Fine. But follow the process laid down by the founding fathers. Violence is always the last option. And yeah, if shade causes harm it's violence.

      This is my last comment. I won't convince you and besides, your thighs are big enough.

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  4. Anonymous8:48 AM

    Bernie Sanders is a jerk and should drop out of the race.

    He and his supporters are dividing the Democratic party and I believe Bernie Sanders 'joined' the party intentionally to create trouble and make it more difficult for Hillary Clinton to win POTUS!

    I did like him in the beginning, but don't have any respect for him now. He and his wife need to go and be kicked out of the Democratic party.

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    1. Anonymous9:40 AM

      I have come to believe the same thing. Not knowing much about Bernie Sanders when he entered the race, I was certainly willing to give Bernie him the benefit of the doubt (although I must say I don't think much of his "independent" stance in Congress) and said repeatedly that I would support whichever candidate received the Democratic Party's nomination. Now I think that this whole thing has been Sanders' deliberate attempt to implode the Democratic Party. What exactly has the Democratic Party done over the years to make Sanders such a mischief maker? If Sanders has any honor at all, he would withdraw right now, apologize to the members of the Democratic Party, and then actively support the Democratic Party's choice. Remember he promised to do so. Repeatedly.
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous4:17 PM

      Leading by calling someone a jerk tells many not to pay any attention to what a writer like that has to say. I may read the comments that follow.

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  5. I hope Vermont votes this POS when he is up for Senate reelection.

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  6. I so agree. Wish he would gracefully (if that is still possible) bow out of the race and support Hillary.

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    1. Anonymous10:11 AM

      Isn't Debbie Wasserman Schultz supposedly the adult for the Democratic National Committee? She said she talked to Bernie and it was civil and fine. She doesn't need to talk to him again. She said Bernie should stay in until he sees otherwise. They just need to be reasonable with one another. Schultz has no control in her party and is an ineffective and/or terrible leader. Well, she is not leading.

      No matter what Hillary or Bernie or any of the peeps do, it is the horrendously bad party 'leaders' that need to be able to be a leader and control the messes.

      If the Democrats fail, it is due to their leaders. Why have they had their head in the sand regarding Schultz?

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    2. Anonymous11:25 AM

      Debbie has done one hell of a job for the Democratic Party!

      She tried to work w/Bernie and his crowd - a Bernie that said one thing and his 'followers' that did another due to his constantly calling for a 'revolution'!

      It's not her fault that his crowd went crazy and did and said the horrible things they did - threatened deaths, etc. - it's all on video.

      Bernie didn't control his people and quite obviously didn't want to! Remember his "BUT" - - - - - - (in his letter!).

      Bernie needs to be called out by the media, the Democratic party and anyone else that wants to provide FACTS against the asshole and his wife, Jane! I know I don't want them in my/our party!

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    3. Anonymous1:33 PM

      1125, Too bad she is throwing all that away and doing what she is doing now. She is blowing it for Hillary and everyone else. Not including GOP and Trump with everyone else.

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  7. Anonymous9:04 AM

    Sanders had a real opportunity to become a folk hero. He did ignite a lot of young voters and got them involved.

    If he would have just stepped back and became their mentor instead of thinking he was a rock star he would have accomplished his goal.

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  8. Anonymous9:34 AM

    Damn that damn Sanders for not rolling over and letting the coronation proceed!

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    1. Anonymous10:27 AM

      OH piss off loser. You;re just as whiny as he is.

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    2. Anonymous10:56 AM

      So is bernie whiny or does he yell too much? Turns on a dime, huh?

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    3. Anonymous3:04 PM

      There's only one person in the race who is asking the Superdelegates to deny the people their voice, and that's Bernie (who apparently fancies himself Crown Prince).

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    4. Anonymous3:31 PM

      Superdelegates are crowned.

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    5. Anonymous5:41 PM

      Superdelegates, yes, royalty. Off with their heads.

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  9. Anonymous9:34 AM

    Something had happened in Nevada but I'm not sure what. I've read accounts of it from both sides, and from the Bernie supporters' side, it does sound like there was an attempt to shut them out.

    I'm a long-time liberal, living in California. I like both Bernie & Hilary. I don't know what to believe about this particular event. But there's one thing I do know: I have watched CNN go farther and farther to the Right over the last few years, and I trust their reporting about as far as I could throw 'em. If I read something on CNN that I consider important, I always research it on other sources.

    I agree that there are some really bad Bernie supporters. I also feel there are some Trump supporters disguising themselves as "Bernie Bro's," and planted in there to make Bernie's campaign look bad. Much about this campaign cycle is not just crazy, it's also full of deception and illusion.

    I worry what's going to happen at the convention, no matter who ends up getting nominated (and I think it will be Hilary).

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    1. Anonymous10:04 AM

      I highly doubt Trump wants to sabotage Bernie. It's in Trump's best interests for Bernie to win the nomination.

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    2. Anonymous10:41 AM

      You are right that proposed Sanders delegates were "shut out" in Nevada. But the REASON was fair, ethical, and agreed upon by both Clinton AND Sanders supporters equally. The dismissed delegates either didn't show up or weren't even registered Democrats. In several cases, they weren't even residents of Nevada!
      I'm not saying the Nevada DNC handled it well, but they were right by any objective measure to call bullshit.
      Moreover, NO ONE should have their lives or the lives of their children threatened just because they were observing party procedure. Doesn't matter how much we don't like said procedure. Threats are never OK.
      I can't believe any sensible person is still considering voting for Bernie. I'm done. I'm even supporting his primary challenger in Vermont, Al Giardano.

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    3. Anon. 9:34, Jon Ralston has been covering Nevada politics for years. There's a couple of things to read on his blog I recommend:

      https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog

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  10. The person arrested for assault in NV was a supporter of whom ?

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    1. Anonymous10:42 AM

      He was a Hillary supporter.
      But he is not a delegate, is not employed by the HRC campaign. The incident itself was private, and it did not occur during a DNC meeting.
      It was also ONE incident. Roberta Lange has been threatened literally thousands of times by Bernie supporters.

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  11. Does anyone here know that the one arrest for assault was a Clinton supporter attacking a Sanders supporter?

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    1. Anonymous10:18 AM

      Proof please. Have seen nothing substantiating this OR anything about it! Sounds like the typical bullshit!

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    2. Anonymous10:28 AM

      And gee whiz it wasn't even at a convention but an airport that had NOTHING to do with anything on this thread.

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    3. Anonymous10:54 AM

      10:18, the google is your best friend. use it and your fingers and brain, to google The Wire actor Wendell Pierce attacks Bernie supporter. Plenty out there on it. The dude was charged.

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    4. Anonymous11:17 AM

      Again, provide the proof!!! Sounds like you are promoting another diversion to the matter!

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  12. Anonymous9:39 AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxvGqaok7nE Obviously a lot of misinformation going around - especially on this blog!

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  13. Anonymous9:47 AM


    Noam Chomsky Predicted the Rise of Trump Six Years Ago

    For decades, Chomsky has warned of the right turn of the Democratic Party.

    In an interview with Chris Hedges in 2010, Noam Chomsky, the world-renowned linguist and dissident intellectual, remarked that he has "never seen anything like this."

    By this, he meant the state of American society, relative to the time in which he was raised — the Depression years — and to the tumultuous state of Europe during that same period.

    "It is very similar to late Weimar Germany," Chomsky said. "The parallels are striking. There was also tremendous disillusionment with the parliamentary system. The most striking fact about Weimar was not that the Nazis managed to destroy the Social Democrats and the Communists but that the traditional parties, the Conservative and Liberal parties, were hated and disappeared. It left a vacuum which the Nazis very cleverly and intelligently managed to take over."

    For decades, Chomsky has warned of the right turn of the Democratic Party, which has, in an effort to win elections, adopted large swaths of the Republican platform and abandoned the form of liberalism that gave us the New Deal and, later, Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

    "Trump has been viewed with bewilderment by politicians who have divorced themselves from the needs of the people and who have sold them false goods to get ahead. But Trump, as Chomsky's prescient interview demonstrates, was inevitable."

    http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/noam-chomsky-predicted-rise-trump-six-years-ago

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  14. Anonymous9:47 AM


    Clinton and Sanders Split Primaries Despite Hillary's Huge Delegate Lead

    Despite calls for Sanders to get out of the race, the Vermont senator had a strong showing in last night's primary elections.

    http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/its-not-over-sanders-wins-oregon-primary-clinton-barely-clenches-victory-kentucky

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    1. Anonymous11:16 AM

      They split delegates in Kentucky even though Hillary Clinton won the race there! You notice the media doesn't talk about her WIN over Bernie.

      All you see the media do is talk negatively about Hillary Clinton - corporate owned media folks at your finest - they so obviously are in the pockets of Donald Trump!

      Hillary Clinton will have my vote as POTUS! Plus, I'll do everything in my power to get the vote out for her!

      This is going to be fun! Dying to see who she picks as her VP running mate. So hope it is Elizabeth Warren!

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  15. Anonymous9:48 AM


    Megyn Kelly and Donald Trump Are Friends Again—All It Took Was a Mutually Beneficial Hour-Long Primetime Special

    The Megyn Kelly we know and really don't love is back and pretty much fawning over Trump.

    http://www.alternet.org/media/what-does-it-take-make-megyn-kelly-and-donald-trump-friends-mutually-beneficial-hour-long

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    1. Anonymous10:28 AM

      They need to get a room.

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  16. Berniebros have started using rightwing propaganda against Hillary. It is really pitiful to have them Post a link to a petition to investigate Hillary in her involvement with; are you ready for this crap?, Benghazi, Funneling funds, and of course her email.
    I feel embarrassed for them. I feel embarrassed for Bernie who has turned from a good man into a desperate one.

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    1. Anonymous1:38 PM

      Where is the Bernie Bro headquarters? How large is the organization? They must have names. Are they all identical?

      If they are such a big bad problem where can we learn more about the operation and the various people that have joined?

      Can the press attend their meetings?

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  17. Anonymous9:51 AM

    How I Acted Like A Pundit And Screwed Up On Donald Trump

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/

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  18. Anonymous9:52 AM

    https://shadowproof.com/2016/05/17/democrats-manipulated-nevada-state-party-convention-blamed-sanders-chaos/

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    1. Anonymous10:29 AM

      Consider the source....

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  19. Anonymous9:53 AM

    Hillary Clinton’s viral nightmare: A video of her ‘lying for 13 minutes’

    You could say that it all depends on how you define “lie.” Or, perhaps, that it’s hell to have a public record.

    Either way, Hillary Clinton’s vast résumé of, shall we say, inconsistencies, is the dog that caught the car and won’t let go. A viral video collection of her comments on various subjects through the years is bestirring Republican hearts.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-viral-nightmare-a-video-of-her-lying-for-13-minutes/2016/05/17/ea59e32c-1c66-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html

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  20. Anonymous9:53 AM

    The latest controversy roiling the Democratic Party showed no signs of abating Wednesday, as Bernie Sanders’ campaign put the onus of the rift splitting Democrats on Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s failed leadership, accusing her of “throwing shade” on the Vermont senator from the beginning.

    The chaos that ensued Saturday in Nevada at its state convention over what some perceived as unfair delegate allocations erupted onto the national scene and has lingered beyond two additional Democratic primaries, exposing the Democratic Party to infighting as the Republican Party takes steps to unify behind its presumptive presidential nominee.

    Sanders’ campaign fired back at Wasserman Schultz on Wednesday morning after the Democratic National Committee chairwoman panned the campaign’s “anything but acceptable” response to reports of violence and threats from Sanders supporters at the Nevada Democratic convention over the weekend.

    Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager, pointedly accused Wasserman Schultz of undermining the Sanders campaign from the get-go and called into question her leadership.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz-criticism-223318?cmpid=sf#ixzz490qOwzbH

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    1. Anonymous10:15 AM

      Fuck Bernie Sanders. Trump will win the race for POTUS because of all the crap he, Jane and his 'followers' are creating for the Democratic party.

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    2. Anonymous10:30 AM

      Weaver and Sanders go back decades and this is their chance to shine like stars (black holes is more like it).
      They both whine like little babies when they don't get their way.

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    3. Anonymous4:23 PM

      the Democratic party


      is creating crap.

      They need to come clean about the crap they create.

      Hillary and Debbie go back. So what? Unless Debbie is slanting things and not being a true Democrat.

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  21. Anonymous9:54 AM

    Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 2 points in N.H.; Bernie Sanders leads by 16: poll

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/18/hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump-2-points-nh-ber/

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    1. Anonymous10:45 AM

      Two things:
      1) NH is VT's border, so of course Bernie's ahead there.
      2) Bernie has never been vetted. In the general his shitty, dark past will come out, and Trump will eat him alive. Trump is DESPERATE for Bernie to get the nomination. He'll be easy prey and get humiliated, then we'll have a fascist Cheetoh in the White House.

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  22. Anonymous9:54 AM

    Who is making such a big deal about the Democrats problems? Is it only the fault of the party honchos and Bernie?

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    1. Anonymous11:08 AM

      Try the media and the fact Bernie and his wife have been hired by someone to stop Hillary Clinton's chances so that Donald Trump will win!

      Wonder how much he is being compensated or promised? He'll NEVER be elected POTUS?

      Bernie and Jane are not Democrats and should be kicked out of the party on their old, white asses!

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    2. Anonymous11:33 AM

      Jane would fit in well with Trump and his bankrupt business deals.

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    3. Anonymous3:37 PM

      No body will be a Democrat with all the ... should be kicked out of the party on their old, white asses!

      No 3rd party. The Republicans are showing more class now, join that party.

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  23. Anonymous9:56 AM

    OT?
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/17/george-zimmerman-taunts-trayvon-martin-s-parents-they-didn-t-raise-their-son-right.html

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    1. Anonymous10:00 AM

      Zimmerman's Gun Sells for $120K
      "Zimmerman still has to verify the winner's funds.

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    2. Anonymous10:13 AM

      I predict that someone will kill Zimmerman. The guy is a horrible human being! Trying to get attention for himself in the most awful ways! Hell awaits him!

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  24. Anonymous9:56 AM

    How Democrats Manipulated Nevada State Party Convention Then Blamed Sanders For Chaos

    https://shadowproof.com/2016/05/17/democrats-manipulated-nevada-state-party-convention-blamed-sanders-chaos/

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    1. Anonymous10:11 AM

      Rolle appeared on “The Benjamin Dixon Show” on May 16, right before Turner spoke about the convention. Rolle mentioned the State Democratic Party may have pushed hundreds more people to not attend by charging people $35 admission to the convention. He called it a “sham.”

      Is that legal?

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    2. Anonymous10:31 AM

      Consider the source.

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    3. Anonymous11:04 AM

      It's already proven (national video) that the Sanders group did create the problem at that convention.

      Fuck them and kick them out of the party - they are dividing it and purposely trying to stop Hillary Clinton chances of winning the POTUS.

      Hillary Clinton will be the nominee and not Bernie Sanders! And, he's not a Democrat! The media is helping hype all this crap too!

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    4. Anonymous11:46 AM

      the Sanders group

      Do they have individual names and a history? Let's hear more about that and from the individuals in the Sanders group, groups.

      No one knows who made the phone calls. They only know Bernie did it all and it made him horrible and he needs to be a quitter. Quitting worked for Sarah Palin, it should work for Bernie, heh?

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    5. Anonymous3:07 PM

      The "Sanders group" is a group of Sanders official delegates.

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    6. Anonymous3:39 PM

      3:07 PM

      Thanks. What are their names? Who is doing what? They throw chairs but no one has seen them throwing chairs?

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    7. Anonymous5:02 PM

      I haven't seen any thrown chairs, but I did see Sanders delegates shouting shit and bitch at Senator Boxer.

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    8. Anonymous5:32 PM

      "shit and bitch at Senator Boxer"
      Isn't that acceptable language now?

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    9. Anonymous5:35 PM

      3:07 The "Sanders group" is a group of Sanders official delegates.


      Someone said the troublemakers at the NV melee were not delegates. Which is it?
      Or are you talking about another group?

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  25. Okay so as we can see the Bernie Bros have no intention of surrendering without a fight.

    It appears that the approach will be denial, denial, denial.

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    1. Anonymous10:18 AM

      Gryph, you should watch this video. Maybe it will help you understand.

      Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

      It is beyond cringe worthy.

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    2. Anonymous10:45 AM

      This 'bernie bro' is a white, college-educated female, 46 years of age.
      I believe in peace.

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    3. Anonymous10:53 AM

      You don't get it G. It's not a matter of losing the nomination, or surrendering, it's a matter of changing the Democratic party. Your attitude is causing the split in the Deocratic party. After watching the Republicans, it will be funny that it will be the Democratic party that has the split and will lose. Latest polls show a single digit difference in national polls between Trump and Sanders. I predict Clinton will lose and this negativity towards Sanders from Clinton will be the cause. So continue your Bernie smashing and be part of the cause of a Clinton loss.

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    4. Anonymous11:32 AM

      Do any of Old Bernies cult members use any logical thinking at all? Figure out how he will pay for everything he promised you.Now figure how he will get any of those things passed into law.

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    5. Anonymous11:40 AM

      10:53 AM

      Agreed. Whoever the instigators and manipulators, they are out to take down Hillary, Sanders and the DNC is going to be a bonus. I don't think this is an accident.

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    6. Anonymous4:25 PM

      surrendering? Bernie Bros?

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    7. Anonymous5:25 PM

      Damn, I just put three through college, if only Bernie was POTUS and not President Obama, Princeton, Yale and University of Pennsylvania would have cost me nothing and my kids wouldn't have loans to pay off. life isn't fair.

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  26. Anonymous10:01 AM

    First look at explosive Hillary documentary, ‘Clinton Cash’

    http://nypost.com/2016/05/17/first-look-at-explosive-hillary-documentary-clinton-cash/

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    1. Anonymous3:24 PM

      Also by Peter Schweizer (the man on whose book this documentary is based):

      "Disney, The Mouse Betrayed: Greed, Corruption, and Children at Risk,"

      In which Mr. Schweizer argued that Disney has been infiltrated by gay activists who want to turn children into homosexuals.

      Oh, and his institute is funded by the Koch bros.

      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/fivepoints/peter-schweizer-clinton-cash-5-points

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    2. Anonymous3:51 PM

      I have been learning about Bill's penis since the 90s when I read some of the RNC and RW sent to my elderly mother.

      I am only shocked there is anyone left in the United States for Hillary to personally murder. According to those in the know she murders her friends and anyone else.

      Even if it were true, the messengers have gone to far with the overkill.

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  27. Anonymous10:03 AM

    Whatever happens, Sanders will be a force at the convention

    The Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in July seems set to continue the fierce nomination battle -- and launch a major debate about what the party stands for.

    Senator Bernie Sanders, independent of Vermont, won the Oregon primary handily on Tuesday and was barely edged out in Kentucky. Last week, he took West Virginia by almost 16 percentage points. Yet, supporters of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are already calling for him to stand down.

    The Clinton team is intent on putting on a tightly scripted convention show that displays unity behind Clinton and focuses the attack on presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump. But an early exit by Sanders remains unlikely. He has defined his campaign as building a movement to transform the Democratic Party and change the direction of the nation. He has stated repeatedly that he will carry that argument into the convention.

    With many polls showing him beating Trump by greater margins than Clinton, Sanders can assert that pressing her to embrace more of his ideas will strengthen rather than weaken the former secretary of state in the general election.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-election-democrats-sanders-commentary-idUSKCN0Y90C9

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  28. Anonymous10:05 AM

    In shock poll, Sanders leads Trump in Georgia

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/280345-in-shock-poll-sanders-leads-trump-in-georgia

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  29. Anonymous10:07 AM

    A political movement (revolution) does not die because the leader of that movement loses a political campaign. Sanders understands that and it seems you have not heard him talk about his plans for his movement, if he does lose.
    History tells us change (revolution) is not without some violence, because the power in charge won't allow an equal playing field for change to take hold. Most changes in America included violence. The Revolutionary War, the fight for human rights like women's rights, blacks rights (ending slavery) workers rights and establishing unions, etc., etc..
    Especially when those efforts are oppressed by the powers in charge that won't allow a public voicing of those views and use unfair tactics to quell those voices.
    Sanders has merit in his opinion that Super delegates are an unfair process within his own party. Super Delegates were started in the Democratic party to insure the party could pick the nominee, not the citizens. The same idea behind the Electoral College. Both Super Delegates within the Democratic party and the Electoral College nationally should be abolished to ensure a more Democratic process.
    Sanders (any candidate) could win the earned (voted) delegates and still lose the nomination when Super Delegates are counted. His claim that if he wins a State he should also win the Super Delegates within that State, seems utterly fair.
    A separate issue is dirty political tactics, which is also a natural happening in any political process and traditionally an American practice, yet, practiced in political movements throughout the world and throughout history.
    Sanders has deeper political convictions than anyone else in this race. He doesn't change his positions because of outside factors, or to public whim. Certainly Clinton can not claim that kind of conviction and Trump is the essence of no convictions at all.
    In the past, two opposing ideologies within one party compromised after a loss and the loser got some compensation for his millions of followers. A voice in the party platform, a vice presidential position, etc., etc.. Some carrot to lead their followers to vote for the nominee. Sanders knows he will get nothing from Clinton, so he fights on, and he should. He owes that to his supporters and himself.
    As Sanders has said, it's not up to him to deliver his supporters to Clinton, it's up to Clinton to earn the vote of his supporters. Sanders would betray himself and his supporters, if he begged his supporters to vote for Clinton just to beat Trump. Beating Trump is Clinton's problem and she must compromise to bring in Sanders supporters.

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    1. Anonymous10:32 AM

      I haven't heard him talk about how he will do or pay for a damned thing he says he wants to get done.

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    2. Anonymous10:43 AM

      Thanks for this comment. We're still for Bernie, until Hillary earns our vote.

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    3. Anonymous10:45 AM

      Bernie has some powerful Kool-Aid.

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    4. Anonymous10:53 AM

      This would be an admirable and logical post were it not for two flaws.
      First, you slyly (and I would argue insidiously) advocate violence in the second paragraph.
      Second, you argue that Sanders shouldn't bow to "outside standards," but you neglect to mention that up until this year he was not a Democrat, but an Independent. You're acknowledging that he is an outsider to the DNC. If Bernie really was an upstanding, principled guy, he would have run as an independent and called for the disruption of BOTH parties' proceedings. Instead, he piggybacked on the resources, money, and free press afforded him by joining the DNC, and now he's decrying and undermining those very resources that got him all this attention and cash in the first place. Granted, that's a wily chess move, but it directly contradicts the narrative that Bernie is the cleanest horse in this race. His operation is not ethical, it's not revolutionary, and it's not even effective. It's boring and childish.

      Good effort, but I'm afraid this little rant still earns a C-.

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    5. Anonymous11:00 AM

      Bernie is a jerk!

      All the free stuff he wants to provide Americans IF he were elected POTUS!) will do nothing more than increase taxes.

      And, he'd have to get his wish list through the U.S. Congress (IF he were POTUS!)

      Remember, the Congress spends the money - not the POTUS.

      Just review all the trouble and obstruction President Obama has had w/Congress throughout his almost completed two terms.

      Bernie is dividing the Democratic party and he's not even a Democrat! He is a self-described socialist! The guy should be run out of which ever town he is in - on a rail! He's exposed himself to be nothing but a nasty old man - promoting a 'revolution' and should be kicked out of the Democratic party by Debbie!

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    6. Anonymous11:04 AM

      I don't promote violence, just stating facts. Your claim that I insidiously included that point is a lie and please show your proof.
      Bernie hasn't taken any money from the Democrats, nor is he benefiting Democratic resources, or free press. Amazing how you have to lie to make your point, it clearly proves how weak your arguments are and how clouded your thinking is. I give your reply an F.

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    7. Anonymous11:11 AM

      As long as they are fighting and self destructing it is fine with me. Trump is looking more Presidential.

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    8. Anonymous11:15 AM

      Calling me a liar doesn't change the facts. Anybody who can read can see you were advocating violence.

      Look in the mirror, dearie. You'll find the only liar, the only clouded thinker, right there staring back at you.

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    9. Anonymous11:30 AM

      Even if I believed Old Bernie could deliver his pie in the sky goods,I would never vote for him and allow that conniving harridan of a wife into a position of power in the US.

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    10. Anonymous11:49 AM

      That's the problem with you Clinton supporters, lying is totally acceptable to you, and you did lie. Enjoy.

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    11. Anonymous12:18 PM

      11:03. He is using the Democratic Party's Brand which is priceless.

      Plus there is the opportunity cost. If non-Demo Bernie was not there someone else could be and they could well be able to best both Hill and The Don't.

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    12. Anonymous12:20 PM

      Bernie is the bullshitter! He'll never be able to do what he is spouting even if he were to make it to the White House - which will NEVER occur!

      Biggest wish though is that his butt is kicked out of the Democratic party! He isn't one by any stretch of the imagination.

      Boot his fucking ass out, Debbie, ASAP!

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    13. Anonymous1:08 PM

      Debbie would like to take him out. She is doing the best she can.

      She can't boot his fucking ass out because she would look and be worse then the worst.

      She has to do it the way she is doing it.


      Better to sink Hillary, hell the whole party, then to call out little Debbie.

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  30. One person charged with assault at the NV. primary, it was a Clinton supporter attacking a Sanders supporter.

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    1. Anonymous10:36 AM

      Old people. No one that has anything to do with a 'movement'. The deadly ones are given a lot of press for their violence and acting like Republicans. The actual Republicans are now unifying over the Donald. The Democrats can look like the idiot fools, losers who are divided and violently fighting.

      Good bye Hillary.

      Trump will win now.

      It doesn't matter who you blame.

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    2. Anonymous10:37 AM

      I thought that was in Atlanta, GA, when that actor dude allegedly hit some Sanders supporter lady?

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    3. Anonymous11:28 AM

      Provide a link,or it's just another Bernie Bro lie.

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    4. Anonymous12:23 PM

      After Sanders supporters thought the Nevada Democratic Convention was being shut down prematurely, shouting ensued and there were reports of chairs being thrown. The phone number and address of the chairwoman of the Nevada Democratic Party, Roberta Lange, was posted on social media -- prompting a flood of more than 1,000 calls, angry voicemails, text messages and even death threats.
      http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/18/politics/barbara-boxer-nevada-convention/index.html

      Boxer said she expressed her concern to Sanders in a phone call Tuesday night. Sanders released a statement Tuesday to say that he does not support violent behavior from his supporters, but also sharply criticized the convention process from Nevada's Democratic party.

      "He knows how I feel. He knows that I felt threatened. He knows that it was wrong," Boxer said. "Now we will see, but in my mind when he says he does not support any type of violence, I believe him. And he's got to make sure it doesn't happen. People will follow his lead."

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  31. Anonymous10:08 AM

    R.I.P., GOP: How Trump Is Killing the Republican Party

    Donald Trump crushed 16 GOP opponents in one of the most appalling, vicious campaigns in history. His next victim? The entire Republican Party

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/r-i-p-gop-how-trump-is-killing-the-republican-party-20160518

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  32. Anonymous10:10 AM

    Why Sanders Isn't Quitting

    The louder the pleas that Sanders leave the race, the more it makes sense for him to stay.

    ...Throughout his campaign, Sanders has presented himself as a movement-builder. Well, this is what social movements do: They apply pressure on people who disagree with them. The moment Sanders exits is the moment Clinton stops caring what he has to say. Of course he's staying in as long as he can.

    The question here isn't whether Sanders will eventually withdraw from the race. At some point between now and the final moments of the Democratic national convention, he will. The question is whether his followers will be able to keep Clinton's feet to the fire after his candidacy ends. It'll help that not just Clinton but Donald Trump is now chasing Sanders' supporters, but eventually the voting will be over and someone not named Sanders will have won. And then they'll have to do a different sort of pivot, from election-year campaign to ongoing movement. What then?

    http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/18/why-sanders-isnt-quitting

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    1. Anonymous10:33 AM

      He'll go back to taking naps in the Senate, honey.

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    2. Anonymous12:59 PM

      If Senator McCain is free to sleep, so it is for the whole Senate. Why would any one senator stay awake?

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  33. Anonymous10:15 AM

    Let’s Cut Through The Media B.S: Clinton Needs 92 Delegates To Clinch The Nomination

    Bernie Sanders is sticking around to fight, but the reality is that Hillary Clinton is less than 100 delegates away from clinching the Democratic nomination.

    ...The reality is that Hillary Clinton is going to lock up the Democratic nomination on June 7. Clinton will probably clinch the nomination before the polls close in California with a win in New Jersey. All of the talk about Democratic discord that the press is chattering about is directly related to the willingness of Bernie Sanders to fight until the bitter end in Philadelphia in July.

    Sen. Sanders is going to be faced with an interesting decision if former Sec. of State Clinton wins California. If Clinton win the biggest remaining primary and expands her pledged delegate lead, and the superdelegates refuse to flip to him between June 14 and the convention will Sen. Sanders try to stage a floor fight that he will most certainly lose?

    Sanders may take his battle to the convention floor, but Clinton is going to have hundreds of more delegates than he will. She is going to come out of Philadelphia as the Democratic nominee. The only fight left on the Democratic side is whether or not this is going to be done the easy way or the hard way.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/18/cut-media-b-s-clinton-92-delegates-clinch-nomination.html

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    1. Anonymous10:39 AM

      There is a much bigger fight left in the democratic party after Sanders loses.

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    2. Anonymous11:00 AM

      That's a propaganda article from a propaganda site. The part about doing it "the easy way or the hard way" made me LOL. Of course the Clinton propaganda machine wants to do it the easy way. They want the convention to be a start-to-finish Clinton Lovefest and that damn Sanders is in the way and won't go along with the bum's rush!

      On delegate counts: Even DWS says don't count superdelegate votes before they cast them at the convention.

      So neither Clinton nor Sanders will finish the primaries with enough delegates - 2,383 - to "clinch" the nomination before the superdelegates vote at the convention. By definition, it will be a brokered convention whether Sanders "stages" a floor fight or not.

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    3. Anonymous1:31 PM

      Sanders can fuck off. Democrats have no use for him and never have.

      He can take his little playmates with him, too.

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    4. I don't know about Politicususa being a 'propaganda site' or not, Anon. 11:00, but I don't see where their math is coming from.

      However, my math still takes me to the same basic conclusion.


      After WV, KY and OR, Clinton is now at 1771 and Sanders at 1499 according to fivethirtyeight.com.

      According to my calculator, there are 781 left, and to win by over half, someone needs to meet or exceed 2026. Hillary will do this with 255 more, Sanders will do this with 527 more.

      I’ve put the remaining races in two groups, the first being the ones Hillary is likely to win:

      GROUP 1
      CA - 475
      NJ - 126
      DC - 20
      ________
      621

      GROUP 2
      VI - 7
      PR - 60
      MT - 21
      NM - 34
      SD - 20
      ND - 18
      ________
      160

      Now let’s play “let’s assume ....”

      Let’s assume Sanders doesn’t just win all of Group 2, he wins like so big that Hillary gets zero delegates - 0 to Clinton, 160 to Sanders.

      Let’s assume Sanders does pretty gosh darn well in Group 1 and manages a tie - 311 to Clinton, 310 to Sanders (I’m throwing her the extra one because fivethirtyeight.com suggests she will take all those races).

      Clinton = 1771+0+311 = 2082 (51.4%)
      Sanders = 1499+160+310 = 1969 (48.6%)

      Now, granted, that could all be swung by Superdelegates. Yes, it is possible that a number of Superdelegates could decide for Bernie, it sure is possible. But how many would he need? The Magic Total Number is apparently 2382.

      2382-1969 = 423. So Bernie would need 423 out of 712 Supers to ‘side’ with him. OK, that’s 59%. Why would 59% vote for Bernie if he only got 48.6% of the vote?

      Please also remember this is an extremely conservative for Hillary/extremely generous for Bernie projection. Even figuring Hillary taking a modest 55% of Group 1 and only 35% of Group 2 puts her at 2169 (53.5%) to Bernie’s 1882 (46.5%). And in that case he’d need 500 Superdelegates to win, 70% of them!

      I mean seriously, how would you feel if the situation were reversed? If Sanders came in at 53.5% over Hillary and then 70% of the Superdelegates just decided to vote for Hillary, wouldn't you think that was weird and that something stunk to High Heaven? That is exactly what Bernie supporters are thinking can and maybe should happen to get him elected. But it's no more honest than what they say happened in Nevada this past weekend.

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  34. Anonymous10:47 AM

    Bernie Bros, everywhere Bernie Bros. Don't you get it? Bernie BLEW IT! Bernie is nothing anymore but an asshole, every day in some new way, an asshole.

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    1. Anonymous11:04 AM

      trying a new method since the 'dead beat dad' moniker didn't stick?

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    2. Anonymous12:25 PM

      BS followers likely have not delved into Bernie's history. Jane, the second wife, paid her daughter big bucks and set her up in business to siphon off college funds. Now the college is closed due to financial moves made when Jane was in charge.

      Do all you "revolution" followers want Jane to have BS's ear if he were POTUS so she could help him sink our economics on the world stage?

      Get real and look at BS's lazy-assed response throughout life when he gets others to do the work for his long hair-brained ideas during his hippie marijuana smoking days.

      Remember BS has been right in the mix in his past - living off others, spitting in the face of societal "norms" lumbering from job to job, procreating without being married then leaving the raising of his son to the girlfriend, more than one marriage, advocating for more sex for young girls to prevent cancer later in life.

      Ask yourself if you want Trump using all this against the democratic candidate or if you want to click on the sites below and get yourself informed about who the hell YOU are promoting as a candidate with your votes if you are in BS's corner.

      http://www.salon.com/2015/12/29/bernie_sanders_hippie_20s_drugs_free_love_and_vietnam/

      http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-and-wife-steered-campaign-nonprofit-money-to-family-and-friends/

      http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-freeman-sexual-freedom-fluoride

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    3. Anonymous12:56 PM

      Did Jane Sanders attend Trump University?

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    4. Anonymous1:17 PM

      12:25

      Why is it the DNC can't vet candidates? At least why aren't they releasing all the news about the Bernie's wife?

      The Democrats are 10000000X the mess of the Republicans that allow Trump to scam them and everyone else.

      If we need to vote for the worst or the best scammer, that's a tough one. Hillary may be too good.

      Hil only enabled the serial lover boy from the White House. Trump's daughter says she knows he is not a groper, his past is exonerated.

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    5. Anonymous5:00 PM

      Did Trump University funnel money into Jane Sanders' daughter's woodworking school?

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    6. Anonymous6:02 PM

      They don't need to release anything. Sanders is losing.

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  35. Anonymous10:57 AM

    I'm actually FINE with Bernie acting like a petulant child and hanging around until the final primaries on June 7th.

    Why? Because Bernie has always been a petulant child. Ask anyone who's had to work with him closely. This latest tantrum is one of many.
    Moreover, as he continues to shoot himself in the foot in the most boring, annoying, and PRIVILEGED way possible, he convinces the majority of his supporters to go to Hillary.

    So keep up the raving and foot stomping, Bernie! Whether you like it or not, you'll drive voters by the millions to the real DNC nominee!

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    1. Anonymous1:29 PM

      And all the while Hillary needs to do zip to look like the adult in the room.

      What is surprising to me is that some of the most vehement and pigheaded Sanders supporters have already come over to our side after seeing through him.

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    2. Anonymous3:28 PM

      I'm fine with it too. A small but loud contingency of his supporters are making him look really bad.

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    3. Anonymous5:24 PM

      3:28 PM

      It is more like the peeps that promote the propaganda. The loud contingency of his supporters are bad enough, but it is the promotion about the few that is what makes things look bad.

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  36. Anonymous10:58 AM

    Van Jones Calls Out DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz For Escalating Nevada Tension. CNN’s Van Jones is often considered to be all-in for Hillary Clinton, but his criticisms of the Nevada caucus were leveraged at Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Democratic establishment.
    http://trofire.com/2016/05/18/van-jones-blames-debbie-wasserman-schultz-escalating-nevada-tension/

    Wasserman Schultz is meant to be a peacekeeper in the party, and though she may feign impartiality, her actions when it really matters prove otherwise.

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    1. Anonymous1:27 PM

      Van Jone$ has to make his money somehow.

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    2. Anonymous4:31 PM

      Not all of us are as wealthy as Trump, or as clever.

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  37. Anonymous11:26 AM

    I think his wife has convinced him that Hillary will end up out of the race because of the witch hunt investigation.That evil woman wants it soooo bad.

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    1. Anonymous11:31 AM

      Yeah, the wife convinced Schultz to screw it all up so Hillary can reign while she convinced him that Hillary will end up out for one of the witch hunts.

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  38. Anonymous11:32 AM

    off topic

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-supreme-court-justice-list

    "William Pryor of Alabama,"

    Hey Trump, better google that name and badpuppy!

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    1. Anonymous4:50 PM

      Yeah, and Bernie needs to show exactly how "we can still win this"

      http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/it-comes-from-the-very-top

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    2. Anonymous5:21 PM

      Trump has shown Hillary that she is at fault for Bill's White House sex and all that. He has also proved that he and his wives are exempt for anything he did in his 70 some years on earth.

      It is time for Hillary to show exactly how she "can still win this".

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    3. Anonymous6:01 PM

      I'm really hoping your first paragraph is tongue-in-cheek, 5:21.

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  39. Anonymous11:34 AM

    What Exactly Did Sanders Supporters Do At The Nevada Dem Convention?

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/nevada-democratic-convention

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    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      Senator Boxer was there.

      She said there were reports. Someone may or may not have thrown chairs.

      The phone calls and doxxing need to be handled by homeland security and law agencies. If they don't want to bother with death threats and all that, that means there is another problem. a bigger problem.

      As I understand it was a small group of angry people.

      It may have been staged or just a small group of people that lost it.

      If it is not worth an investigation and full report I wouldn't pay any attention to the NV incident.

      Pay attention to those that are using it against others. Making a mountain out of a molehill, as they say.

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  40. Anonymous11:36 AM

    Clinton Surrogate: We’ll Win Because We Will Have the ‘Ugly Women’ Vote

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/clinton-surrogate-well-win-because-we-will-have-the-ugly-women-vote/

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  41. Anonymous11:37 AM

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz Says Bernie Sanders Seemed to ‘Justify’ Violence and Intimidation

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/debbie-wasserman-schultz-says-bernie-sanders-seemed-to-justify-violence-and-intimidation/

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    1. Anonymous4:37 PM

      Deb blew it. She should know what is going on.

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  42. Anonymous11:38 AM

    Sen. Boxer: Rowdy Sanders Supporters In Nevada Made Me Feel ‘Threatened’ (VIDEO)

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/barbara-boxer-bernie-sanders-nevada-convention

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    1. Anonymous4:07 PM

      she obviously never attended a public school - lot worse happens in schools all over this country. Also, why do they say that there were chairs being thrown, when there wasn't any videos of it happening? If they are lying about chairs being thrown, then why should we trust the rest of their story?

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    2. Anonymous4:59 PM

      Barbara Boxer attended public high school in Brooklyn in the late 50s. She's the same age as my parents, who both grew up in Brooklyn, and, believe me, there was plenty of shit that went down at NYC public schools at that time.

      Any more "obvious" things you want to tell us?

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  43. Anonymous11:40 AM

    Trump Plans On Breaking The Law With Huge Illegal Act At The Republican Convention

    Donald Trump is considering naming his cabinet at the Republican convention. The problem is that it is illegal for Trump to name cabinet members for an election that he hasn't won yet.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/18/trump-plans-breaking-law-huge-illegal-act-republican-convention.html

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    1. Anonymous12:50 PM

      Politicus is reading the statute wrong. What's illegal is to promise someone an appointment in return for their political support. The statute doesn't say a candidate can't announce who he plans to name to his cabinet.

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    2. Anonymous12:53 PM

      Ivan ka will clue him in and be sure he is acting like he is Presidential material. Don't worry.

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    3. Anonymous1:25 PM

      You can bet your grandma that Trump has made plenty of promises.

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  44. Anonymous11:42 AM

    Marco Rubio SLAMS The GOP For Obstructing Obama In Surprising Speech On Senate Floor (VIDEO)

    http://addictinginfo.org/2016/05/18/marco-rubio-slams-the-gop-for-obstructing-obama-in-surprising-speech-on-senate-floor-video/

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  45. Anonymous11:53 AM

    Democratic Party Leaders, Bernie Sanders Spar Over Nevada Convention Chaos
    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/18/nevada-convention-chaos-highlights-schisms-in-the-democratic-party/

    All the assholes need to find out who made the phone calls, also, too.

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  46. Anonymous12:30 PM

    *
    https://shadowproof.com/2016/05/17/democrats-manipulated-nevada-state-party-convention-blamed-sanders-chaos/

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    1. Anonymous2:29 PM

      The poor babies.

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  47. Anonymous12:37 PM

    You know, I think Bernie is great. I was a Bernie fan prior to his running as a candidate. Either something about the election has changed him or we never got to see this side of him before. And by "this side of him" I mean the ambitious "I want to be president" side.

    There are a couple of things that concern me about Bernie: (1) he is not a Democrat. Suggesting that he wants to change the Democrat party is a little like your neighbor coming over and telling you how to raise your kids, and then taking over. (2) He is too far to the left for a majority of voters to vote for him. In order to win the election he needs to convince all (or most) of the Democrats, which he will probably do, but also a lot of the undecided voters. It's just not realistic.

    Hillary is not perfect. She's made mistakes. What I like about Hillary is that she is "what you see is what you get." You know exactly what her motivations, strengths, and limitations are.

    I just don't get the attraction of Trump. I don't understand why people buy into his crap.

    SM

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    1. Anonymous1:22 PM

      SM, It's not the "Democrat Party." That misnomer was coined by the GOP decades ago. It is the "Democratic Party." A registered member is a "Democrat." The correct adjective for describing a person or an event is "democratic." Virtually all Democrats know this and we recoil a little inside whenever the party is incorrectly labeled "Democrat Party."
      Beaglemom

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    2. Anonymous2:15 PM

      Hey Beaglemom, you think that might just be a typo?
      God you are such a condescending asshole.
      People like you are sealing the deal for Trump.
      Maybe you should just shut the fuck up.

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    3. Anonymous4:54 PM

      Somebody doesn't like that so many people enjoy Beaglemom's comments.

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    4. Anonymous5:36 PM

      Thanks, Beaglemom, great comment as usual. Funny how a common "Dig" to democrats was just a "typo". Not "ha ha" funny, just "odd" funny.

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  48. Anonymous12:38 PM

    There's an abundance of proof the Ds and Hillary are rigging the election even more than the bad system rules already do, yet Bernie is a problem.

    Fuck. you.

    He has EVERY right to be angry. He should be tied with her or ahead of her.

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    1. Anonymous1:24 PM

      LOL you sound exactly like the pee pond. Every time Sara doesn't make the grade the system has been rigged against her.

      Truth is they have a great deal in common.

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    2. Anonymous1:45 PM

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      @2:24
      DNC has it rigged for Hillary.
      Read up and come back and we'll talk.
      https://shadowproof.com/2016/05/17/democrats-manipulated-nevada-state-party-convention-blamed-sanders-chaos/
      And bring a video of "throwing chairs".
      We'll wait...

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    3. Anonymous2:28 PM

      Ok,the video shows one chair,raised over the large muscular mans head to be thrown,then others got him to stop.I guess you have some excuse for the asshole Bernie Bros who sent death threats to the chair woman? Maybe next time you feel "frustrated" at someone you will threaten to kill them? Bunch of whiny,immature assholes.

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    4. Anonymous2:57 PM

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      @2:28
      Finally!
      Someone on this blog concedes that there was no "chair throwing".

      ".I guess you have some excuse for the asshole Bernie Bros who sent death threats to the chair woman? Maybe next time you feel "frustrated" at someone you will threaten to kill them? Bunch of whiny,immature assholes."
      No excuses from me for making those calls.
      Anyone who did that should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
      And here is the law in Nevada for doing that kind of bullshit:
      NRS 201.255 prohibits three types of speech communicated over the phone–obscene speech, threatening speech, and annoying speech:

      Obscene speech. It's a crime in Nevada willfully to make a telephone call and address obscene language, representation or suggestion to or about any person receiving the call.
      Threatening speech. It's also a criminal offense in Nevada willfully to make a telephone call and threaten injury to the person or property of the person receiving the call or any member of that person's family.
      Annoying speech. Finally, Nevada makes it unlawful to make a telephone call with the intent to annoy another person whether or not a conversation ever ensues from making the call.
      Penalties

      The Las Vegas crime of making threatening, annoying or obscene phone calls is punished as a misdemeanor in Nevada. The sentence for a misdemeanor in Nevada would carry:

      up to 6 months in jail at the Clark County Detention Center (or another county jail), and/or
      up to $1,000 in fines.

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    5. Anonymous3:30 PM

      Where is this "abundance of proof?"

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    6. Anonymous4:08 PM

      Why can't authorities get the names of the people that put out the phone number on social media? Why won't they deal with the criminals making the phone threats?

      When there is a big deal created out of a matter that could be handled other than blaming the person Hillary and Wasserman Schltz want gone (but can't do it directly themselves) it looks bad for them.

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    7. Anonymous4:43 PM

      "fuck you" oh, how provincial! Why the anger?

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    8. Anonymous5:11 PM

      You know. Abundance of proof, like when everyone runs with the "Bernie Bro" meme about the possibility of chairs used as weapons. Yet no security or police to make a legit report? People like Senator Boxer were there, whatever happened she said she was scared. She was sane enough to talk to Bernie. She and many others would all testify in court or before a committee as to what they witnessed at this major upheavel.

      Democrats seem to know how bad Bernie and his people are. Why did they not have adequate security in the first place?

      What is happening to the culprit (social media person) who outed Chairwoman Roberta Lange who received death threats? Think of all the phone numbers the police have to investigate. Why is no one mentioning how the police are handling their part? When they have names, they can bring out the bad guys and not make everyone who likes Bernie a bad guy to fight.

      The Democrats have failed big time with their security. Especially since they know how bad Bernie is and did nothing.

      As it is now it is like vigilantes that just want to blame one person. Without any facts or proof they will just kill their target.

      Anyone who wants to, can turn the possible chair raising into a major party war. Who wins?

      Exaggerations, lies and that crap is what will end up destroying the DNC. Don't blame Trump.

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  49. Anonymous12:51 PM

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  50. Anonymous12:59 PM

    Just too bad we don't have a young candidate. They say ageism is bad. I am older and feel it from the young. But how in the hell are we going to have these old people running our country? Aren't there any more go getters like Obama out there or is it just old fartskins who like politics? Bernie and Trump looks like they are about to blow a gasket. Hillary is holding her own, thanks to makeup and having to be poker faces all these years in the that damned man oriented environment. I just hope they survive all this politiking. Must be hard on their arteries. Not too mention, I suspect that a couple of them have brain plaque. Just watch the anger. It's a trait of pre-dementia.

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    1. Anonymous1:54 PM

      My father is a few years older than Sanders and has gotten "no less eccentric" in his later years -- with, yes, increasing flashes of anger. Same deal with his father. I see major similarities between my older male relatives' behaviors and those of Trump and Sanders. Hillary is no spring chicken, true, but women hold up better. Based on actuarial tables her additional life expectancy is close to 19 years, plenty of time for two terms. Sanders' life expectancy is 12 years.
      Think of your own male relatives 75 yrs old or older. How many of them would you have wanted to see anywhere near the Oval Office?

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    2. Anonymous3:30 PM

      Hillary is no spring chicken with a traumatic brain injury and a bad thyroid. Sanders is healthier than she is. Watch him bound up stairs to speech platforms. Watch the video of him hiking the Mt. Rushmore Presidential Trail with its 422 stairs. The press and Secret Service were huffing and puffing to keep up his pace.

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    3. Anonymous4:38 PM

      Yeah, did anyone see him race up the empire stat building a day after running the Boston Marathon and rock climbing? The man's amazing, he wears those flying suits and soars along the grand canyon, and that's before his oatmeal and prunes.

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    4. Anonymous4:52 PM

      She didn't and doesn't have a TBI and her "bad thyroid" is easily treated with medication (many, many others are similarly treated...including myself).

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  51. Anonymous1:22 PM

    I said from Day One that Bernie Sanders isn't fit to be POTUS. Right from the beginning he has been unwilling or unable to control his rabble.

    This is no revolution, Sanders is only a lazy old armchair anarchist with a lot of sudden money to spend.

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    1. Anonymous3:33 PM

      This folks is what Hillary Clintonism has wrought:
      Calling your fellow citizens "rabble". Yes, bring your curs to heel, Bernie! SMH

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    2. Anonymous4:50 PM

      A "rabble" is a disorderly crowd. That's exactly what Sanders delegates were by the end of the NV convention.

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  52. Anonymous2:25 PM

    Why don't they purge the party from the super delegates?

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  53. Anonymous3:19 PM

    You know who runs 'propaganda' for Hillary? David Brock. The same David Brock who slut-shamed Anita Hill during the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings.

    Smear tactics are his forte, and the new narrative he put out is this new 'Sanders team is angry and violent.' Amazing to see how quickly some jump on board with each new talking point.

    Everybody condemns that horrible phone call, but are we now holding candidates responsible for the actions of each of their millions of supporters and what each of them says on fb and twitter?

    If so, where are the calls for Clinton to take responsibility for Wendell Pierce' physical attack on Sanders supporters?

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    1. Anonymous3:52 PM

      Many people are so invested in clearing the road for an easy path for Clinton that they'll promote any smear no matter how ridiculous even when it can be easily fact-checked. The phrase "penchant for violence" in the Nevada letter for example was a total tip-off of exaggeration and as Rahm Emanuel used to say "not letting a crisis go to waste." Unquestionably an orchestrated dirty trick that Clintonistas turned a blind eye to.

      Speaking of it ain't over til it's over. 20,000 + people in Carson, Ca don't think it's over.
      http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/bernie-sanders-carson-california-rally-pictures-ca-photos-pics-oregon-kentucky-primary-how-many/

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    2. Anonymous5:58 PM

      If rally numbers meant anything, Sanders would be ahead. He's not.

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  54. Anonymous3:26 PM

    Bernie Sanders accepts Fox News debate invitation
    By Hadas Gold
    05/18/16 04:16 PM EDT

    Sen. Bernie Sanders has accepted a Fox News invitation for a Democratic debate in California, the Sanders campaign announced on Wednesday.
    “Both campaigns have been invited by Fox News to a debate. We have told the network that we would accept the invitation with the understanding that we can reach mutual agreement on the debate moderators, the format and other details,” Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ campaign manager said in a statement.
    Fox News has expressed interest in holding a Democratic debate for months and has been publicly lobbying the Democratic National Committee. In March, both Sanders and Hillary Clinton participated in back-to-back town halls with Fox host Bret Baier. On Tuesday, Fox News sent a formal letter to both campaigns inviting them to a debate, the Washington Post reported. The letters and the Sanders campaign's statements didn't specify a time or place, though Fox News said the debate would be moderated by anchors Baier, Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace, who have been roundly praised for their handling of three Republican debates.

    Read more at
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/05/bernie-sanders-fox-news-democratic-debate-223337

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    1. Of course he did, he needs free advertising before the CA primary.

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  55. Anonymous4:04 PM

    How many cell phones were there? And nobody capture chairs being thrown around?

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    1. Anonymous4:49 PM

      There's a photo of one guy holding a chair up over his head in the middle of the melee. Luckily, other people talked him down before he could do anything with it.

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    2. Anonymous5:07 PM

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      @4:04
      "How many cell phones were there? And nobody capture chairs being thrown around?"
      No shit!
      And you can bet the hotel had security cameras in that room too.
      CorrectTheRecord.
      Uh-huh....

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    3. Anonymous5:58 PM

      So, now the threshold for improper and aggressive behavior is whether a chair is actually thrown rather than just held over someone's head in anger and nearly thrown?

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  56. Anonymous4:18 PM

    I was watching MSNBC and other network shows and it didn't sound good for Sanders

    Comments:
    Sanders is a party of one. He's does not care about the Democrat Party, he's not going to run again. What does he have to lose.

    Chairs thrown and yelling in Las Vegas, Sanders has to own it

    Bernie is doing Trumps dirty work

    Bernie is telling his young voters that Hillary is the establishment. They are angry at Hillary.  

    When Sanders loses against Hillary Clinton, his followers will vote for Trump because Sanders has pounded into them that Hillary is the establishment

    74 years old. Angry old man approach things different, they don't care

    Trump sounds presidential on TV with his old adversary Megyn Kelly while Hillary is still battling the Sanders and Trump campaigns

    Sanders says his polls rates are higher against Trump than Clinton's.  That's because Hillary is battling two campaigns and she is not going after Bernie because eventually she wants their votes against Trump.

    Trump wants to face Bernie therefore he is not attacking Sanders

    Trump looks presidential meets with Henry Kissenger, provides Supreme Court Justices list he is looking at.

    While Hillary who is close to winning is taking heat from Sanders

    I was watching MSNBC and it didn't sound good for Sanders

    Comments:
    Sanders is a party of one. He's does not care about the Democrat Party, he's not going to run again. What does he have to lose besides his dignity.

    Chairs thrown and yelling in Las Vegas, Sanders has to own it

    Bernie is doing Trumps dirty work

    Bernie is telling his young voters that Hillary is the establishment. They are angry at Hillary  

    When Sanders loses against Hillary Clinton, his followers will vote for Trump because Sanders has pounded into them that Hillary is the establishment

    74 years old. Angry old man approach things different they don't care

    Trump sounds presidential on TV with his old adversary Megyn Kelly while Hillary is still battling the Sanders and Trump campaigns

    Sanders says his polls rates higher against Trump than Clinton.  That's because Hillary is battling two campaigns and is not going after Bernie because eventually she wants their votes against Trump and Trump wants to face Bernie therefore he is not attacking Sanders

    Trump looks presidential meets with Henry Kissenger, provides Supreme Court Justices list he is looking at

    While Hillary who is close to winning is taken heat from Sanders

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  57. Anita Winecooler4:33 PM

    It's his campaign, and his responsibility to speak out against it in a timely manner, not just a little blip on his website. The fish stinks from the head down, and I'd say the same thing if it were Hillary's campaign.
    Bravo, Gryphen, you said it all, and you said it well.

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  58. Anonymous5:02 PM

    I was watching MSNBC and other network shows and it didn't sound good for Sanders

    Comments:
    Sanders is a party of one. He's does not care about the Democrat Party, he's not going to run again. What does he have to lose.

    Chairs thrown and yelling in Las Vegas, Sanders has to own it

    Bernie is doing Trumps dirty work

    Bernie is telling his young voters that Hillary is the establishment. They are angry at Hillary.  

    When Sanders loses against Hillary Clinton, his followers will vote for Trump because Sanders has pounded into them that Hillary is the establishment

    74 years old. Angry old man approach things different, they don't care

    Trump sounds presidential on TV with his old adversary Megyn Kelly while Hillary is still battling the Sanders and Trump campaigns

    Sanders says his polls rates are higher against Trump than Clinton's.  That's because Hillary is battling two campaigns and she is not going after Bernie because eventually she wants their votes against Trump.

    Trump wants to face Bernie therefore he is not attacking Sanders

    Trump looks presidential meets with Henry Kissenger, provides Supreme Court Justices list he is looking at.

    While Hillary who is close to winning is taking heat from Sanders

    I was watching MSNBC and it didn't sound good for Sanders

    Comments:
    Sanders is a party of one. He's does not care about the Democrat Party, he's not going to run again. What does he have to lose besides his dignity.

    Chairs thrown and yelling in Las Vegas, Sanders has to own it

    Bernie is doing Trumps dirty work

    Bernie is telling his young voters that Hillary is the establishment. They are angry at Hillary  

    When Sanders loses against Hillary Clinton, his followers will vote for Trump because Sanders has pounded into them that Hillary is the establishment

    74 years old. Angry old man approach things different they don't care

    Trump sounds presidential on TV with his old adversary Megyn Kelly while Hillary is still battling the Sanders and Trump campaigns

    Sanders says his polls rates higher against Trump than Clinton.  That's because Hillary is battling two campaigns and is not going after Bernie because eventually she wants their votes against Trump and Trump wants to face Bernie therefore he is not attacking Sanders

    Trump looks presidential meets with Henry Kissenger, provides Supreme Court Justices list he is looking at

    While Hillary who is close to winning is taken heat from Sanders

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    1. Anonymous5:41 PM

      Sorry lol. Got carried away with cut and paste. Didn't realize I posted it and pasted numerous copies. Oh well

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