Sunday, June 19, 2016

Orlando nightclub shooting victim has to fight back against conspiracy theorists who think she was a "crisis actor." Because that is the world we live in.

Courtesy of

A Philadelphia native and Fox 29 intern who survived the Orlando mass shooting has disputed claims on social media that she was a “crisis actor” for the station, and was not actually at Pulse nightclub when the incident occurred. 

Patience Carter, who was shot in the right leg but survived the shooting that claimed 49 lives, posted on Instagram Friday a picture of her cast and thanked Orlando Hospital workers and her supporters. She added she was discharged from the hospital. 

Carter also thanked “skeptics” who believe she wasn’t at the shooting and claim she is posing as a “crisis actor” for Fox 29. "It's your outrageous insensitivity that makes me want to heal even faster, and grow even stronger," she wrote.

Here is the video making this accusation. 

This is the same kind of response from the Right Wing that happened after the shooting at Sandy Hook, and after Aurora, and after damn near every mass shooting since Obama took office.

These assholes simply refuse to accept the fact that there are actual people being actually killed with actual guns in this country.

And remember folks, they also get to vote.


  1. Anonymous4:04 AM

    I doubt many people among the wingnuts truly believe this crisis acting baloney. Sadly though, I think the extremists know full well what's going on but they just don't care. That's how much they hate having a black president.

    1. Anonymous7:34 AM

      You need to check out some of their websites - I estimated that it would require at least 3 days of studying conspiracy theories to even get close to understanding the world as they have normalized it. The closest analog I've experienced is a bunch of religious kooks who regularly interject snippets of their shared beliefs into the conversation as a means to elicit reinforcement of those beliefs. As unbelievable as their nonsense is to others - they are believers, and show not one bit of objectivity.

  2. Anonymous4:22 AM

    Trump gets his "news" from these same sick fucks that believe every Obama conspiracy story. Palin is closely behind.

  3. Anonymous4:28 AM

    NRA assholes are always making those accusations. Anything to protect the NRA Some people try and get other loonys to believe things like this and other NRA loonies hide at home while their new political party is fighting for tougher gun laws on the US Senate floor.

  4. Anonymous4:55 AM

    This poor woman gave up her privacy and this is her reward.

    I can see why right-wing questions it because they are notorious for the anonymous shill, like those in trumps audience.

  5. Anonymous5:12 AM

    She was quickly profiled on NPR last week.
    Look, after 9/11 there is reason to suspect our government.
    Yes , this is our reality now.
    Because of gov mistrust, innocent victims get this kind of shit.
    Would I put it past our gov to tage massacres to further an agenda? No I would not.
    But on the other hnd. demonizing people who question oddities they perceive is akin to GWB saying anyone who questions us on 9/11 is not a patriot.
    I really can see both sides. We have been turned into this.

    1. 66gardeners6:20 AM

      If you can not figure out whether tragedies such as these massacres, the problem is YOU 5:12. A little critical thinking skills go a long way.

    2. 66gardeners6:35 AM

      "tragedies such as these massacres are real"

    3. Anonymous7:15 AM

      Lost in translation.
      I know the shootings are real.
      I question who is behind the questioning.
      I guess ya'll believe the official 9/11 story completely and are true patriots.

    4. Anonymous11:01 AM

      9-11 was on a Bush's watch. These mass shooting since have been because the RW is so hateful and disgusting toward Democrats and this President. All we have heard for 8 years is "Obama is taking away guns..BUY MORE! Obama hates white people--KILL!" There is a difference between the lies perpetrated by the Bush cabal and what has happened since.
      What exactly is a 'true patriot?' The RW thinks it's people who say they believe in God (their God only) and own multiple killing weapons and want more war, refuse to pay taxes for it or anything else, and support torture. I agree with none of those things. I also do not see the USA as all that much better than any other democratic nation, and we are worse then some. I do not worship a stupid flag or a book rewritten multiple times.

  6. Anonymous5:37 AM

    Update?: "This video has been removed by the user."

  7. Anonymous5:39 AM

    5:12, no you have been turned into this. Are you truly suggesting that all the news coverage of actual people with actual injuries, actually bleeding and dying outside the nightclub were in on it? And the actual doctors at the actual trauma center were also in on it? Disgusting.

    1. 66gardeners6:23 AM

      bravo 5:39

      Now you know why conservatives keeping referring to "common sense" in politics. There is little in their world

    2. Anonymous6:47 AM

      Yeah, 66, $arah's go-to phrase. My first thought was, "what the heck would YOU know about common sense?"

    3. Anonymous9:24 AM

      It's even more comlicated that that--5:12 is arguing that people were recruited to go to that particular bar for years and years, just to set up an alibi, so that when when were shot and killed by a gun nut, people would; no good. My brain just exploded before it could finish the crazy conspiracy nut.

  8. Anonymous5:59 AM

    So, are these conspiracy theorists saying the police, the EMT's, the hospitals, the doctors, the nurses, the other wounded, the grieving and sobbing families and friends, the mortuaries, the cemeteries, the pastors who performed the funerals, the airlines who transported some of the bodies to their native states and countries, are all in on it too?

    1. 66gardeners6:24 AM

      Don't you also love it when people refuse to say the name of the shooter as if that helps.

    2. Anonymous10:22 AM

      They said a variation of the same thing in the aftermath of the Newtown school massacre. It's the NRA/GOP gut reaction to a horrible shooting spree. Somehow President Obama planned Newtown in order to take "our guns" away. Now the right-wing media and Donald Trump can spew forth the same insanities about Orlando. Good grief! It's bad enough for sleazy politicians to say these things but for news organizations that want to be taken seriously (as in Fox News), it's totally unacceptable. Frankly I wish someone would take "their guns" away; we might live more peaceably then.

  9. 66gardeners6:13 AM

    Joy Reid just had on Dr. Kelli Reid who is running in the Arizona GOP primary against John McCain. It is whoopass time for McLame.

    These are statements she has put out previously, and Joy Reid them on-air.

    "Libya and Iraq would not be the Harvard of Terrorism they are now if it were not for his knee-jerk, trigger-happy foreign policy of promiscuously arming the supposedly moderate militants he say he he is intimate with and overthrowing stable albeit unsavory regimes."

    "The reason John is currently losing a reliably red state to a rubber stamp Obama democrat is because he is dangerously distracted with his invade the world, invite the world agenda."

    1. Anonymous6:29 AM

      Yea, I saw that. Dr. Kelli sounded credible until she said she was a Trump supporter and she seemed to be an enthusiastic supporter at that.

    2. 66gardeners6:41 AM

      I've learned that anybody who would still be a republican in this day and age is not thinking straight.

  10. Anonymous6:17 AM

    Okay, so according to the right wing asshats, President Obama is weak because he's not handling fake domestic massacres like a leader? Got it. That's why I never bother trying to have intelligent conversations with them....geez.

  11. Anonymous6:18 AM

    Nut jobs like these have been around forever. How sad it must be to go through life always looking over your shoulder in fear of the big, bad boogeyman.

    "Paranoia will destroy ya." -- The Kinks

  12. Anonymous6:31 AM

    Since the GOP and Trump are now starting in with the usual NRA mantra, if the club goers had been armed, none of this would happen, I am certain the Republicans will now allow guns at their convention.

    After all, they expect us to arm ourselves in order to part take in every day events instead of banning the guns that are the problem, why don't they do they same or are they too cowardly?

  13. Anonymous6:50 AM

    Patience Carter is not the only victim to be interviewed, so why are the conspiracy theorists picking on her?!

    1. Anonymous7:48 AM

      Answer> Black, female, @gay bar and willing to speak out......

    2. Anonymous7:50 AM

      Maybe it's the color of her skin?

    3. Anonymous 6:50 AM asks: Patience Carter is not the only victim to be interviewed, so why are the conspiracy theorists picking on her?!

      No idea—insufficient data. I do have a related question, though: The other interviewees, what skin color?

  14. Anonymous8:40 AM

    " I wanted a picture where I wasn’t happy, a picture that reflected the anger and unhappiness that I feel, rather than joy. There’s nothing to be joyful about. Because we are not in a joyous situation right now. We’re in a situation where we have to go back to work to make America great again."
    "Trump’s appeal is an indictment of the public education system of America, and the American cultivation of an anti-intellectual culture suspicious of eloquence and learnedness.""Trump’s dialect is deceptive, because it implies that complicated institutions need only the right authority figure to work smoothly in favor of the general public, and that the world is not always at contradiction, but that it is rather straightforward – like a formulaic television series." NO - Newton's 3rd LAW.
    "Oliver Jones writes that Trump has mastered a message of “down-to-earth vulgarity.” He is the pop-cultural candidate – the candidate of the Kardashians, the mindless tweet, and the incoherent celebrity rant on social media. Just like his dick sucker $ara Payme,

  15. Anonymous9:48 AM

    The last couple weeks I have been deep in conversation with one of these conspiracy theorist types. I wouldn't have bothered but he's a friend & work partner of a relative, and we'd recently become Facebook friends. The conversation got started when he posted an Alex Jones / Infowar video about how the ceremony for the opening of the Swiss tunnel a few weeks ago was actually a Satanic ritual and mind-control project.

    The conversation between us went from there to a few other Alex Jones' inspired theories he posted, and we hit high gear with the Orlando shooting. In order to convince me he was right,he forward me some links that sent me right down the rabbit hole and I'm still climbing out.

    It's really unfortunate. I can tell he's actually a very sweet guy at heart, very gentle, but he seems to lack critical thinking skills in this department of life.

    1. Anonymous10:54 AM

      Let me guess. He get up in the southern school systems..or was homeschooled by RW Christianists.

    2. 66gardeners3:17 PM

      point blank ask this person who is brainwashing him

  16. Anonymous9:57 AM

    Was I just unaware of mass shootings before the assault weapons ban that Bush lifted during his presidency? I remember Columbine, of course. Haven't most of the mass shootings happened since the ban was lifted? f so, then we need the ban.

  17. Anonymous10:02 AM

    Ohio gun shop owner accidentally shot while teaching concealed carry class

    1. Anonymous10:53 AM

      I guess he wasn't a very good teacher if he allowed untrained gun owners into his class with loaded weapons, was he? That said, whoever did this should lose an permit they have, and be unable to get a new one-ever.

  18. Anonymous10:24 AM

    So if a tree falls in a forest and noone witnesses it, does it mean that it didn't fall?

  19. Connie10:51 AM

    Three people can keep a secret;

    as long as two of them are dead.
    Attributed to Ben Frankln

    The people who believe the shootings are false flags have waaaay to much time on their hands. I know of a few yards with weeds they can pull. And windows to wash. And houses to paint. Let's keep America Occupied (pun intended).

  20. Anita Winecooler3:31 PM

    I saw her interviewed, and she displayed some courageous honesty as she held back tears for a close friend she was with and others that didn't make it. A lot of survivors experience "Survivor's guilt", and for these asshats to pile on like this is beyond the pale.
    I can't imagine the terror she went through, and will endure for the rest of her life.

  21. Anonymous7:09 AM

    I like to keep an open mind about this. It is easy enough to label folks as "conspiracy theorists" so you can ignore what they are saying. Look at how well that worked to allow people to ignore the alarm bells that were being rung back in 2008 when Sarah Palin was chosen for the Republican ticket.


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