Wednesday, July 06, 2016

Another, somewhat unexpected, group has now come out in support of Hillary Clinton.

Courtesy of CNN:  

Over the next several months, members of Republican Women for Hillary plan to provide cover for Republicans looking to speak out against Trump, whose surprising rise has torn the party apart. 

Faced with a choice between Clinton and Trump, some Republicans have begrudgingly agreed to support him while others are simply opting out of the election. But for these women who founded the group, (and one man who has joined in solidarity), Trump's bombastic style, offensive rhetoric toward women and minorities, slapdash policy "suggestions" risk destroying the party. 

This is the post-primary Never Trump movement in action. Their new organization, which is not affiliated with the Clinton campaign, is part support group and part activist hub: They intend to host off-the-record social events for like-minded conservatives and sponsor get-out-the-vote efforts for Clinton. They started in May by launching accounts on Facebook and Twitter and are planning to make an appearance at the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia next month.

I said this was an unexpected group in the headline, but considering Trump's attitude toward women perhaps it should not be quite so unexpected.

Now of course the remaining Bernie supporters will immediately jump on this as proof that Hillary Clinton is really a Republican in liberal clothing, but that is indicative less of a well informed opinion, and more that somebody has been drinking the conservative Kool-aid.

Courtesy of The Daily Banter:

There are reasons you may choose not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016, but one would hope they're policy issues rather than problems with her personality -- because the "personality" that's been sold to the American electorate is largely manufactured, and not by Clinton herself (another facet of the smear: that she's a phony). The reality is that Clinton was one of the most liberal members of the Senate during her time there, ranking within ten points of progressive messiah Bernie Sanders and her history as a crusader for progressive causes is precisely what so motivated the GOP to destroy her in the first place. As far as the right was concerned, Clinton stepped far over the line when she pushed for healthcare reform way back in 1993 and her activist past informed a future as a "difficult woman." By the way, it hardly needs to be said but many of the conservative attacks on Clinton throughout the decades have been the product of rank sexism. Men rarely get labeled difficult or abrasive and their general likability isn't often called into question. Those are all buzzwords employed specifically to knock empowered women down a peg. And Hillary Clinton has been subjected to them -- and so much worse -- her entire political career.

The truth is that there are perfectly reasonable folks on both sides of the partisan divide, who put country before party, and those folks are going to recognize what these Republican women already have, that voting for Hillary Clinton is the best possible choice to make if you want to see this nation survive and prosper after this election.

And despite what many might tell you, she always has been.


  1. Anonymous4:23 AM

    Trump's continuous support, as late as yesterday, for authoritarian figures should be troubling to anyone regardless of wealth. Remember what Putin did to that oil guy in Russia?

    People should be very scared. He is too crazy for to be subtle; His "dog whistles" tell us exactly what we are going to get.

    I was scared for Clinton being indicted. I have worked in intelligence and it is a dynamic environment. However, in the intelligence corporate-government contracting world world those infractions would lead to HR actions not jail time.

    Understand that lack of State Department in-place security procedures and oversight that would have informed Clinton of issues with having her own server, transmitting documents etc., puts much of the blame on the State Department. What people don't realize is that Hillary fell on her sword for the State Department.

    I believe Hillary will protect our children while Trump will use them and the nation's pocketbook. He will probably move the US capitol to Miami! Kind of like our friend, Ms. "Cannot Grow Old Gracefully" Palin.

    1. Anonymous5:43 AM

      Up way too early today, I perused The Right Scoop for grins and giggles over coffee. Talk about buyer's remorse for supporting the old bat in '08! "How could I have been so stupid" is a common reply. Queen Heifer doesn't have the support she used to or claims to have now!

    2. Anonymous6:08 AM

      Oh bull, 5:43. Hillary Clinton is a lady and a fighter, unlike any GOP woman I can think of, including Ms. Pose Nearly Nude with a rifle Melania. Wait until she debates your orange fraud. Watch his numbers tank as even the blind realize he's a dangerous idiot.

    3. Anonymous6:15 AM

      I love going there 5:43! They have all changed their handles too, in embarrassment?

    4. Anonymous6:28 AM

      I was talking Palin, 6:08 AM, not Hillary. I agree with you; she'll have him as an appetizer!

    5. Anonymous8:21 AM

      4:23 - thank you for making the point about HRC "falling on her sword" to protect State. So important that she did that. She's a true team player.

  2. If Hillary set up her "personal" email server to avoid FOIA requests, I don't blame her. Consider all the non-scandal scandals she has had hurled at her especially by the right-wing. Her server was probably more secure than the government's was. Wonder how many times government servers have been hacked? Oh yeah, that's Top Secret. My Dad had a Top Secret clearance while he was in the Air Force and after he retired he told me that there are several layers of secrecy but most of it is to cover the "asses" in DC. Anyway, Comey is a "registered" Republican and although I am not going to impugn is cred, I'm sure he and Hillary are not "friends" and are definitely on opposite sides "politically". OK, I'll stop with the quotes, for now. You probably, kinda, sorta, maybe, get my drift?

    1. Maple5:41 AM

      Dershowitz on CNN last night said that Comey overstepped his bounds in profiling Hillary's behaviour (gross negligence, for example) and that this is something only a prosecutor should be doing. Of course, since Comey is a reg'd Repub, it's understandable that he'd have to throw as much dirt as possible against her.

    2. Anonymous7:14 AM

      Don't forget that Comey was Deputy Special Counsel to the Senate Whitewater investigation in 1996 which relentlessly and fiercely excoriated the Clintons.

      I really "feel" for Hillary because the Republicans have been attacking her for decades. She's not perfect but then again who is. She has done her best and has served the country well. As a presidential candidate, she isn't ideal but holy hannah look at the opposition's candidate. He wants to model himself on the likes of Saddam Hussein, North Korea's leader and so on. Oh yes, Mr. Tough Guy Trump for president - what a horrifying joke.

    3. Anonymous8:28 AM

      Anyone who through all those years that she was SoS, who did not recognize a .com address versus a .gov address as an indication that she had a private server needs to permanently live in 1990. Of course they all knew! Anyone who sent her an e-mail knew. What idiots there are acting like this was some big revelation. And yes, there was no oversight at State at the time. But as the OIG report made clear, there was no single SoS who abused the rules over any others. Comey is a former prosecutor. If he says there is no prosecutable case, there's no case.

    4. Anonymous10:13 AM

      Seen a lot of ts documents developed on a corporate .com server albeit sometimes in a skif or hard copy, with appropriate cover.

      The need for government security and relative processes is kind of like the wild west right now because agencies have multilayered and often duplicate or redundant fiefdoms within. For example OMB or the VA.

      I hate Edward Snowdon but I understand his amazing accessibility to data. In Snowdon's case, he just took advantage of the systems vulnerabilities. He wasn't special, others could have taken his path but chose not to exploit government vulnerabilities for their own gain. Whatever his beliefs and justifications, he was wrong.

  3. Anonymous4:33 AM

    Watching Republicans being oh so indignant about Hillary and the e mails today. Honestly, I can't believe that they would be so eager to try to destroy Hillary on this given the alternative. Do they really want to take down Hillary and put the Donald in the Oval Office. The Republicans I'm seeing this morning on TV trying to take down Hillary are the very ones who have been critical of Trump and his idiocy and unsuitability overall. Better tone it down or you'll win and then you'll really have something to whinge about.

    1. Anonymous6:05 AM

      If Hillary had been indicted, I think the Democrats would have drafted Joe Biden to run for president (sorry Bernie bros)and he would have absolutely crushed Trump and probably ended their control of both houses of Congress as well.

    2. Anonymous7:16 AM

      No doubt. That wackadoodle Jack Welch said exactly the same thing this morning. He suggests the Republicans take a big sigh of relief. But it ain't over yet with Donald Saddam Hussein Wannabe Trump running for the GOP.

  4. I volunteered for the Obama campaign in 2008 and 2012. In both campaigns we got a lot of republican women for Obama. In 2008 many of them were freaked out by Palin's 1822 belief that women had no control over their reproductive lives and in 2012 they tended not to believe a word Romney said about anything and didn't trust him to be sane about women's issues.

    Frankly, any woman who would vote for Trump might want to remember----I don't know---every nasty, creepy thing he has ever said about women, including his daughter. And anyway, I think the man is a predator of the worst kind. And one of the reasons I think so is Palin supports him. She tends to veer towards predators like Nugent and Trump.

    Its great to know some republicans are still sane.

    1. Anonymous5:46 AM

      She never did stand up against predators. Remember "Boys will be boys?" My personal belief is that the Creepies molested her and she liked it!

    2. Anonymous6:05 AM

      Agreed, 5:46. No one with a positive self-image would have slept around as she was reported to have done (and as we have seen her daughters do) and then run off to get married and not share that happy day with family Sarah got knocked up and instead of facing her folks, ran off with the first guy who said he'd take care of her. Never mind that he also slept around, had no college degree (like her?) and liked to peep at women's breasts. Maybe she found that charming?
      It is interesting to me that her kids were never left with the grandparents. Remember that picture she painted of running for City Council and taking the kids along in a wagon? Those weren't props back then; she may have had no one to safely leave them with.

    3. Anonymous4:12 PM

      5:46 AM - also a firm believer that she was molested as a child, and why she made women pay for their own rape kits.

      "You liked it and you know it!"

  5. linda5:56 AM

    OT a bit - I guess. But Esquire has SP's number.

  6. Anonymous6:12 AM

    I tend to think there was no malicious intent here. I think she was overwhelmed with the changeover from the Bush cabal to the new State, and with the hiring decisions, figuring out where the fires were in the world, coming up with plans and making contacts..all in the first month. It was probably way easier to set the server up at home, where she knew it was safe, and where it was easier to access things. Hillary is one smart woman, and she was trying to become effective in her new role ASAP. Of course the GOP is going to call foul at every move she makes. That's all they know how to do. Govern? What the hell is that? "Obstruct" is their new job description.

  7. Anonymous7:41 AM

    Interesting! I see that Clinton has now adopted Bernie's plan for debt-free in-state tuition for those earning under 125K. Imagine that - FREE education. How are you going to spin that one folks?

    1. Anonymous8:48 AM


    2. Anonymous2:40 PM

      That is interesting. She's changing from Hillary, Inc to Hillary, Inc-Lite right before our eyes.

    3. Anonymous4:06 PM

      Did he think ahead and copy-write the idea as his? She's one smart woman, Bernie's got a lot of homework just to break even.

  8. Anonymous8:27 AM

    Speaking in my official role as Unofficial Spokesperson for Patriotic Old White Men for Hillary, I am pleased to announce our endorsement of her candidacy for President of the United States.

    We made this decision after carefully evaluating her educational background, career and life experience, long presence on the national and international stage, declared values and policy principles plus her tireless proven ability to totally not be that racist, misogynist, reckless, egotistical, bellicose, disorganized, unapologetic, dishonest, shaved orangutan running against her.

    HRC 2016

  9. Anonymous2:21 PM

    How come Sanders won't concede and endorse the obvious winner Hillary Clinton?

    Wait one ... wait one ... at the end you will see that Bernie Sanders is still holding out in hopes Hillary Clinton will be found guilty of the email charges. But in the beginning you will see that Sanders is starting to piss off the Democrats.

    Democrats Lawmakers press Sanders during a tense question-and-answer session on whether he would ultimately endorse Clinton and help foster party unity.
    By HEATHER CAYGLE and SEUNG MIN KIM 07/06/16 10:49 AM EDT

    Sen. Bernie Sanders is still talking like a guy who’s running for president. But frustrated House Democrats — who booed him at one point during a morning meeting — say it’s time to stop.

    With the Democratic convention just weeks away, Sanders still hasn’t endorsed one-time rival Hillary Clinton and dodged questions about when he would during a tense meeting Wednesday morning with House Democrats.

    Sanders also stunned some of the Democrats in attendance when he told them that winning elections isn’t the only thing they should focus on. While they wanted to hear about how to beat Donald Trump — and how Sanders might help them win the House back — he was talking about remaking the country.

    “The goal isn’t to win elections, the goal is to transform America,” Sanders said at one point, according to multiple lawmakers and aides in the room.

    Some Democrats booed Sanders for that line, which plays better on the campaign trail than in front of a roomful of elected officials.

    House Democrats overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton during the presidential primary fight, so it was not surprising that Sanders got a cool reception from them....

    Sanders also stunned some of the Democrats in attendance when he told them that winning elections isn’t the only thing they should focus on. While they wanted to hear about how to beat Donald Trump — and how Sanders might help them win the House back — he was talking about remaking the country.

    “The goal isn’t to win elections, the goal is to transform America,” Sanders said at one point, according to multiple lawmakers and aides in the room.

    Some Democrats booed Sanders for that line, which plays better on the campaign trail than in front of a roomful of elected officials.

    House Democrats overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton during the presidential primary fight, so it was not surprising that Sanders got a cool reception from them.But during their earlier meeting, House Democrats including John Garamendi of California and Joyce Beatty of Ohio asked Sanders for specifics on when he would get behind Clinton — questions that were accompanied by some cheers and clapping from other House Democrats, sources inside the room said.

    “When are you going to run as a Democrat? This is the Democratic Caucus,” Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.) said to applause.

    Sanders didn’t give them a clear answer, according to attendees. Instead, Sanders declared that elections are not necessarily about winning, but about transformations....

    Sanders also weighed in at a news conference on the FBI’s decision not to recommend charges against Clinton for sending classified information over private servers as secretary of state.

    “I think you’ve heard me say from Day One that there is a process in terms of the investigation regarding Secretary Clinton and the emails,” Sanders said. “Yesterday was an important part of that process. Now we wait to hear from the Justice Department.”...

    1. Anonymous2:38 PM

      Fuc_ you Bernie. I would say fuc_ Jane, but I wouldn't even fuc_ Jane with Sarah's dick.

  10. Anita Winecooler4:09 PM

    If I were republican, I'd vote for who has my best interests at heart as a woman and mother. I'd vote Democrat with the choices out there now.

  11. Anonymous10:52 PM

    There were Republicans for Obama and Rednecks for Obama groups during his general election campaign in 2008. My Republican sister in Michigan had a GOTV house meeting back then. And she's shy and not involved in politics. The McCain/Palin ticket scared Republicans.


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