Sunday, October 02, 2016

Rush Limbaugh warns that fact checking is a "vehicle for them (Liberals) to do opinion journalism under the guise of fairness."

Courtesy of Dead State:  

“There is no fact-checking,” he declared. 

“The fact that The New York Times, and The Washington Post, and USA Today, and all these other papers and networks now have fact-checkers is for one reason. It allows them to fool you into thinking they have an objective, nonpartisan staff or person analyzing everything the candidates are saying, and telling you what they’re saying is true, or what they’re saying is false.” 

Limbaugh then basically admitted that reality does indeed have a liberal bias. 

“When in fact the fact-checkers are no different than the biased left-leaning reporters and columnists at these papers and on networks. But the fact-check, the idea that it is a fact-check story is designed to say to you that it is objective and analytically fair, and all it is, is a vehicle for them to do opinion journalism under the guise of fairness. Which, if you fall for it, gives it even more power, because if you think that the fact-checkers like PolitiFact or Snopes, or whoever else, if you quote them constantly as the Bible, well then you’ve fallen for it.”

To be clear this is a naked attempt to undermine fact checkers who have been making Donald Trump's life, and let's face the lives of a lot of GOP types, a living hell lately.

If you can smear the fact checkers are left wing operatives then truth becomes a matter of faith rather than a matter of fact.

Now you might be tempted to simply dismiss this by saying 'Come on Gryphen you know they idiots are allergic to facts. Why even bother to care that they think fact checkers are on Hillary's payroll?"

That is a valid point, and I would almost agree with you.

Except for this.

Courtesy of The Hill: 

Voters who like Donald Trump have doubts about the legitimacy of November's election, a new poll finds. 

Half of those who view Trump favorably say they have little or no confidence in the integrity of the election, according to an Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released Saturday. 

Only about one-third of the respondents who identified as Republican said that they have confidence in the vote count. 

"Trump has finally said something that that I've been thinking for years," one Trump supporter from Columbia, Mo. told the AP. "I don't think the votes have been counted properly for years. There's voter fraud and attempts to game the system. I don't trust it at all."

Now this is really where the rubber hits the road.

Because if after Hillary wins this election Donald Trump openly questions its validity we could have an honest to goodness civil war on our hands.

But even if it does not go that far you can bet the farm that when the 2018 midterms roll around that every former Trump supporter, Right Wing fanatic, and frustrated Republican is going to come out in force to "right the wrong" of the 2016 election by voting in a whole bunch of Teabagger types to sabotage every single thing that Hillary Clinton and the Democrats try to accomplish.

It will be the obstructionism that faced President Obama on steroids, and it will be VERY effective.

If facts no longer matter, if there is not at least one news source trusted by all sides of the political spectrum, then our ability to negotiate, inform, and correct misinformation will be lost completely.

There will no longer be anything called "truth," there will only be opinion, and the crevasse that now separates the Right from the Left will widen until we have our own version of the cold war right here within the United States of America.


  1. Anonymous2:00 PM

    Giuliani said, “He’s a genius at how to take advantage of legal remedies that can help your company survive and grow. I want a man who’s a genius at figuring out how to take this country, that’s — moving in the wrong direction, where we’ve had a basically jobless recovery, where we’ve had growth of less than 2 percent for two years. That’s pathetic! Don’t you think a man who has this kind of economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman, and the only thing she’s ever produced is a lot of work for the FBI checking out her e-mails.”

    1. Anonymous5:56 PM

      Giuliani is certifiable.

  2. Anonymous2:04 PM

    $EX, BULLYing and MONEY$$$.....

  3. Anonymous2:07 PM

    Bitch Slapped>

  4. Anonymous2:08 PM

    The only person that I despise more than Trump, Palin, Guiliani, Christie, McConnell, et al is Rush Limbaugh. I will rejoice when he dies just as I did when Phyllis Schafly finally left this planet.

    1. Anonymous3:00 PM

      AMEN brother..

    2. Anonymous3:57 PM

      I would like to see trump, guiliani, and christie behind bars before they die. I think it is likely to happen.

  5. I didn't even know Limbaugh was even alive!

    1. Anonymous2:24 PM

      I know, I just read this and said "Rush who"?

      Just a renewed struggle for relevance that will fail since he's basically relegated to ignominy since losing most of his advertising revenue.

      Hope he didn't spend all his money on fine cuban cigars because he won't be making much more.

  6. Anonymous2:19 PM

    While Rush used to be a lot better, I kind of like him because he's one of those people who you have to listen to him longterm to understand what he says.

    1. Anonymous2:28 PM

      What exactly about him repeatedly calling Sandra Fluke a "slut" do you need long term to understand? I'm a dumb liberal so you'll need to spell it out for me.

    2. Thou Shalt Not Criticize A Johnston2:39 PM

      Listening to Rush "long term" (anything over 5 minutes) is a large part of what is wrong with this country today.

    3. Anonymous3:19 PM

      Amen, 2:39 PM, and I would hardly call him "objective."

    4. Anonymous3:56 PM

      Rush Limbaugh is the opposite of objective. Who wants to understand what he blathers about?

    5. Anonymous4:04 PM

      Really? The man is a slob. And, as he himself points out, an “entertainer". If I was religious I’d call him the antichrist.

    6. If you have to listen to Limbaugh long term to understand him, you have a real cognition problem.

    7. Anonymous5:07 PM

      It helps if you're a crack addict, I suppose.

    8. Anonymous5:54 PM

      2:19 - You have 'longterm' retardation. What a fool. You don't understand anything. You are a feeb.

    9. Anonymous8:02 PM

      you may have to listen to him long term because you are a moron.

      They rest of us recognize a drug addict when we hear him short term.

    10. Anonymous9:40 PM

      I listened to him long term, 8 hours a day, five days a week, for two years. One of Rush's minions sat in the cube in front of me and refused to use headphones. His wife was our boss. I developed TMJ, anxiety disorder, and agoraphobia that has severely affected my quality of life for the past 24 years. I'm not putting all the blame on Rush. The type of people who feed on his hatred are also partially responsible.

  7. Anonymous2:40 PM

    doesn't the Republican Congress "fact check" Hillary all the time?

    1. Anonymous9:47 PM

      I was just thinking about that. Why are ALL fact checkers "libtards"? Why aren't there any right-wing fact checkers? Could it possibly be because fact checkers ARE bipartisan? Nah...there's got to be some other explanation. /snark

  8. Sharon2:43 PM

    I am afraid our goose is cooked....those of us who really know what is going on already know our elections are manipulated. Anywhere there are GOP in charge they have managed to create voter ID laws, changed the available days, hours, places to vote, purged thousands of valid names...etc. Then there all the actual machines w old software easily hacked. Obama won simply because of the numbers and Anonymous (thank goodness for them). If this election is close I could easily see Trump winning or creating another mess that we had w Bush & Gore denying a Clinton win. This latest news break about Trump losing a billion dollars and paying no taxes for 18 years makes total sense...he is a scavenger living off the dead, although he's the one doing the killing. The American experiment in democracy is now dead...I am only repeating several blogs by people I read. If you go back and read about Germany, there are so many similar things that allowed citizens to give Hitler the power it is scary, very scary. I don't think we can go back anymore.

    1. Anonymous3:38 PM

      That's certainly one way of looking at it, however I am one of the most cynical and negative people that I know and even I'm not experiencing your level of hopelessness.

      Part of me hopes you are wrong and part of me really just doesn't care.

  9. Jim In Texas2:49 PM

    How dare you Libtards try to use Truth as a weapon! ;-)

  10. Caroll Thompson2:50 PM

    I will be 61 at the end of the month. I have signed up for an early ballot. This election is going to give me stroke. Dead or alive, my vote for Hillary and all the down ballot candidates in Maine's 2nd Congressional District will count.

    Get your folks to the polls.....

  11. Anonymous3:02 PM

    The fact that Rush supporters are called "Ditto Heads" tells me all that I need to know about these fools.

  12. Randall3:35 PM

    I seem to recall, back in the '90's, a quote from Rush Limbaugh when he was questioned about his truthfulness and accuracy;
    "I don't have to be accurate - look - it's not my job to tell the truth - I'm an entertainer!"

  13. It's been a close race and still is. Closer than it was in 2012. The word out is that Wikileaks is going to let out some devastating info on Clinton. Those in the borderline states should be working to get the pro CLinton voters to the polls because it has never been so important. For all the talk, the truth of the matter is that the Democrats are fighting for control and it's very close. Should not have happened but that's the way our country's demographic and opinions are

    1. Anonymous4:13 PM

      Supposedly Wednesday.

    2. I'm afraid I wouldn't believe Julian Assange on a stack of bibles.

    3. Anonymous1:09 AM

      It's not that close.

      No one is going to pay much attention to Wikileaks. They've been making themselves irrelevant and unreliable for a while now. Ever since Assange went on his Hillary-Hate vendetta.

  14. Anonymous3:40 PM

    Everyone loves to bring up Canada as being a better place politically but their options last election were not good. Conservatives did things that hurt them and now I see the meme being passed around with a pic of Trudeau that says " I have my own plans for Canada's future and it doesn't include Canadians."

    Trudeaus party has a huge connection to China btw.

  15. Anonymous3:54 PM

    Whenever we get close-ish to election day, the Republicans start to freak out about all kinds of voter fraud. Whenever it's been investigated most of it is coming from - guess who - Republicans!

    1. Anonymous5:11 PM

      You won the internet, Beaglemom. Trump is so paranoid he's telling people to vote and to "watch the polls",whatever that means, in Pennsylvania because they're known for cheating.

  16. Anonymous5:26 PM

    I'm sure, without reading a single comment, it's already been said. But it bears repeating: Facts have a liberal bias.

    1. Anonymous8:11 AM

      OMG, facts do not have a liberal bias, that is why they are called facts.

      USE a dictionary before using big words like bias.

  17. Paul Revere warned the British and Sarah reads all of em5:33 PM


    Sarah (maybe Sarah and Barstool) apparently are talking points for Chris Christie! So does this mean they are back with the tRUMP campaign?

    I report, you decide!

    WATCH: Christie calls Trump tax report good news for campaign

    WASHINGTON —Gov. Chris Christie said reports that Donald Trump was able to claim $1 billion in business losses highlighted his ability to fulfill his campaign promise and overhaul the U.S. tax code.

    "This was actually a very, very good story for him," said Christie, a top Trump adviser and head of his transition team, on "Fox News Sunday."

    lo effing l!

    Is this the part Sarah wrote?

    ""What it shows is what an absolute mess the federal tax code is," Christie said. "That's why Donald is the person best positioned to fix it. There's no one who's shown more genius in their way to maneuver about the tax code as he rightfully used the laws to do that." "

  18. Anonymous5:42 PM

    Yes, I know, when you start making comparisons like this they say you don't have an argument. But the reality is, Limbaugh (RW radio in general), is 'entertaining' like Goebbels.

  19. donald tRUMP5:46 PM


    "Mitt Romney, who was one of the dumbest and worst candidates in the history of Republican politics, is now pushing me on tax returns. Dope!"

  20. Anonymous6:35 PM

    The votes cast for Johnson or stein must be tracked because that may be loose votes that Russia/republicans may try to manipulate.

  21. Anonymous6:37 PM

    Mail in and Early votes could be manipulated.

  22. Anonymous6:53 PM

    "Ordinary investors in Trump’s business empire saw the value of their shares plunge to 17 cents from $35.50, bondholders got pennies on the dollar, and scores of contractors went unpaid.""Trump isn’t and was never a smart businessman. He was and is smart at gaming the system. There’s a difference."


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