But not in a good way.
Chilling to see desperation Trump feels by pulling together Bill Clinton accusers pre-debate. Once attacked these very women himself.— Tony Schwartz (@tonyschwartz) October 9, 2016
After this stunt @realDonaldTrump is more disgusting and shameless than I thought. Wow. So sad and desperate— Reshma Saujani (@reshmasaujani) October 9, 2016
Apparently Trump had planned to seat these women with his family during the debate, but the officials put the kibosh on that idea.This presser is one more indication that Donald Trump is completely insane.— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) October 9, 2016
One of the other memorable moments was when Trump bizarrely threatened to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton for the ultimate purpose of throwing her in jail.
As Vox points out not only would it be impossible for a President Trump to launch an investigation against a former political rival, but threatening to do so is a threat to our democracy.
Another of my personal favorite moments from last night was when Trump essentially admitted that he had not paid taxes for years.
Of course Trump then went on to blame Hillary for the existence of the tax loophole seemingly unaware that one Senator from New York is unable to change tax policies all on her own.
And of course then there was the lurking.
Holy shit, that was creepy as hell!What. Is. He. Doing. pic.twitter.com/6uE8sf09ul— James West (@jameswest2010) October 10, 2016
One body language expert suggested that this was a "pre-assault indicator."
Yeah it was NOT a good night for the Donald, and things are only going to get worse from here.
In fact new polling shows Hillary with an eleven point lead.
Well you know that this will inspire a Twitter rant from Trump any minute now.
I imagine that in the next debate they will have to wheel Trump out in a Hannibal Lecter to keep him from physically assaulting Hillary Clinton in frustration.
Memorable.
ReplyDeleteWas Melania Trump subtly signaling her support for Democratic presidential nominee and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton through her wardrobe choice this evening?
That was the speculation by the wardrobe-readers on Twitter.
Social Media Spots Startling Message in Melania Trump’s Hot-Pink Debate Outfit.
Trouseers.
https://pmcfootwearnews.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/melania-trump-bill-clinton.jpg?w=1024
Bill's thumb is bigger then drumpf's entire hand!
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I seriously doubt that Melanonmia has enough brain cells to send "secret messages" to the public.
DeleteMy take is donnie chose it. He was sending a message to the locker room boys, this is mine!!
Too bad his supporters can't do math and calculate that her blouse cost more than their weekly salaries and yet they pay taxes and he doesn't.
It may have been one of Melania's handmaidens or a stylist. She must have a staff of 30 to 50 that help her with motherhood, all the maintenance, shopping and so on.
DeleteSomewhere this morning I read (and there is video) that Trump ditched Melania when they arrived at the venue. He got out of the vehicle, didn't wait for her, and just walked in! Without her! Trouble between the sheets in Trump Tower??
DeletePink pantsuit with "pussy" bow.
DeleteCould be Melania is lashing out the only way she can, through fashion.
I'll bet after Trump reads today's reports he makes her burn that outfit. We won't see her again until the bruises heal.
I've seen no indication that Melania is that clever. I think it was a horrible coincidence, and based on her hulking, stalking, frustrated, rage-filled husband at the debate last night, she is going to pay dearly for not thinking about the style term for that collar/bow before deciding to wear it.
DeleteIf Hillary does indeed favor the bow, it could be after the criticism Melania has received at past events Trump chose that outfit, thinking that imitating Clinton's bowed top and pantsuit would make Melania look more like a first Lady. I wouldn't be surprised. I think he controls everything and dressing his wife like a Barbie Doll would be completely within his character. (Even a model would know that color is not flattering on her.)
DeleteIf Trump *is* responsible, then it's just another thing for which he has only himself to blame for but for which he will blame others and take it out on them.
No wonder Melania was staying as far away from him as possible.
I hope Marla and Tiffany are willing to take Melania in when Donald dumps her. Melania will have no money, no saleable skills and a limited command of the English language.
I really liked Hillary's suit this debate. I liked the red one she wore at the first debate but I really liked this one. I hope she wears deep blue for the third as I think she looks really good in blue.
DeleteYep, Trump couldn't get it up for the second debate and had to use the alleged victims in that PR stunt yesterday.
ReplyDeleteI remember hearing on Friday night, after he did that so-called apology at midnight, that on Saturday he was going to be making an appearance somewhere live and saying more on the matter. That never happened. Instead, he concocted the plan to contact the alleged victims and parade them around on debate day. It doesn't matter to me whether they were happy to do it or not. What matters is that he contacted them (no, they didn't contact him) and had no problem using them as his Viagra to get through that second debate.
Everything with him is in some way sexual. Even when he's acting as though he's defending women, he is getting off on it.
I sense Rudy Ghouliani's touch also, too in that parade of women. He is desperate to put tRump into the WH, so he can be A.G. In the Hannibal Lechter contraption, tRump bears a strong resembelence to his son Eric, doesn't he?
DeleteIt was Trump and Bannon that planned to parade them in at the last minute to confront Bill and sit in the Trump Family box.
DeleteDebate admins stifled that stunt. And it was a stunt. It had Trump's fingerprints all over it.
I'm am surprised Giuliani is sticking with the sinking ship. He of all people knows how toxic Trump is and that he has no possible path to win.
It wasn't just lurking, it was stalking. He paced around like a hungry, caged wild animal looking for an opening to pounce.
ReplyDeleteThat is what the DEPLORABLES want as their president????
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DeleteThat is what the DEPLORABLES want as their president????"
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You bet. They were probably excitedly looking forward to seeing him actually backhand her in the face.
'Catch22-"Twenty-two women from a variety of backgrounds and Judeo-Christian traditions share their personal stories about how they came to abandon organized religion, and how they discovered life after moving away from religious and supernatural beliefs. "With scripture often cited as justification for the marginalization of women, it is time to acknowledge that one of the final barriers to full equality for women is religion."
ReplyDeletehttps://www.amazon.com/Women-Beyond-Belief-Discovering-Religion/dp/1634310829/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473714463&sr=8-1&keywords=women%20beyond%20belief
Good article. When I saw the Billy Bush/Trump video, I hated everything about it. What I hated most was how as soon as the bus door opened Trump acted like a different person (just as all abusers do in front of family and colleagues) and put on the charm that he knew he was supposed to put on. Then, Billy Bush wouldn't let that be--he felt the need to use what he and Trump had shared on the bus, had talked about, and give Trump a gift by pressuring Arianne Zucker into having physical contact with Trump. The two males were acting upon an inside joke in front of Zucker. It was ugly.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-worst-part-of-the-trump-tapes_us_57fbb906e4b0d786aa52b946?section=&
I hated that part too - they Billy Bush enabled him. If Arianne had wanted to give either one a hug, she could have. But Bush had to pressure. Yuck!!!
DeleteDid you see John Oliver on Sunday? He had a whole strong of similar Billy Bush disgusting behavior and talk. Compile it and he's a vile lech.
DeleteI understand he's been fired from his current gig, The Today Show. I'll bet Access Hollywood won't take him back either.
He's pretty much done.
Maybe he can hang out with Mel Gibson and they can bitch and moan how they were screwed out of their careers. Both losers that did it to themselves
Can he get a job at his uncle's art museum? When it opens?
Delete"of course then there was the lurking."
ReplyDeleteEarlier commenter "I only wish she would've turned, stared him down, then asked, "Yes, may I help you?"+ donald?
THAT would have been PERFECT coming from HRC!
I think when she was done, she should have turned around and stared him down, making him move out of HER way so she could go back to her seat.
DeleteThe stalking was frightful. I have never before concerned for the safety of a debater before. This time I feared for Clinton. I know she's a tough gal, but the stalking her with the menacing look on his face made me very uncomfortable and fearful for her. His evil shone through. Why do people like him? He can't go away fast enough for me.
ReplyDeleteI am sure it was all he could do to not give her "what she had coming." I wonder if her SS detail discussed in advance the potential need to rush the stage.
DeleteHe has *no* power over her and nothing angers an abuser more.
I truly wish Hillary could have turned around and kicked him in his balls last night!
DeleteTrump showed his truly evil and nasty self in the debate! He'll never gain the presidency just based on his actions and words last night.
He must be a horrible embarrassment to his wife/wives and kids! Can you imagine having the likes of him in your family? Good god almighty!
Can hardly wait to see Hillary Clinton sworn into the presidency in January, 2017! She will be an outstanding POTUS!
You could almost see the wheels spinning in his tiny brain: I am going to get you Hillary, you just wait, I haven’t finished with you yet.
DeleteI'm sure some of it was from their "plan" being thwarted by the debate admins.
DeleteHe and his top minion Bannon had planned to usher in the four women to the Trump "family" box. Admins got wind and told them if they tried that stunt, security would remove the women. They were still thinking of doing it at the last minute so they could confront Bill as he went to the Clinton box, but decided not to risk an altercation with security on camera broadcast nation wide.
That is the kind of ugly asshole the Republicans have nominated. They OWN Trump. And these last minute abandoning ship is too little too late.
I read Paul Ryan is torn between doing the right thing and his party.
Well, if that is his dilemma, he need to step down right now. Because doing the right thing should always take precedent. If it doesn't, you don't deserve to be a public servant.
Wayway Back Paula Jones: "LOSER" like he will be..
ReplyDeletehttp://americannewsx.com/hot-off-the-press/trumps-1998-jones-loser/
The years have definitely been kinder to Hillary than all those other women tRump paraded out. Even under all the stresses of her jobs and positions in government, Hills looks GREAT.
Delete"I imagine that in the next debate they will have to wheel Trump out in a Hannibal Lecter to keep him from physically assaulting Hillary Clinton in frustration."
ReplyDeleteI thought he might do a M/S Last night in front of the entire world. I even said that.....
HRC must watch her back and every other inch of her body.
I'll bet there will not be a third debate. It's a total waste of time for Hillary Clinton to have to participate in another one w/Trump!
DeletePlus, the viewership of it would be even further down than the second one of last night. I didn't watch it - couldn't bring myself to do it! Tuned into MSNBC after it was over and watched all the commentary and interviews.
That was more than enough! Trump is truly a sickening individual!
Clinton 88.0%
ReplyDeleteTrump 11.7%
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/forecast/president
Hillary Clinton
87.7%
Donald Trump
12.3%
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=2016-senate-forecast#now
Nate Silver.
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Clinton - 335 electoral
Trump - 202 electoral
He's toast.
It will only get worse as the week progresses.
If the whistleblowers don't release more footage (like The Apprentice stuff rumored at) it will be too late to make the news.
Wrong to Threaten Hillary Clinton With Jail
ReplyDeletehttp://fortune.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-threatens-jail-hillary-clinton/
Former US Attorney General Eric Holder is the first African-American to have held that prestigious title of office, and he has only tweeted 121 times in his life. However, after watching the debate, his three tweets cut right to the heart of everything dangerous and wrong with Republican nominee Donald Trump’s putrid debate promise; to jail Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
Lock him up too!
DeleteArresting your political opponents is what a dictator of a banana republic does.
DeleteTrump would rather be dictator of an eastern block country; disappear them.
TRUTH:
ReplyDelete"I have paid federal income tax every year since 1944, when I was 13," Buffett said in a statement, adding that "being a slow starter, I owed only $7 in tax that year."
Buffett, ranked the world's third-richest person by Forbes magazine, said he had copies of all 72 of his returns "and none uses a carryforward." BIG B>
""The total charitable contributions I made during the year were $2,858,057,970, of which more than $2.85 billion were not taken as deductions and never will be. Tax law properly limits charitable deductions," Buffett said."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-buffett-idUSKCN12A1Z0?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=57fbd84e04d3011cc566cc57&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook
Trump Just Embarrassed America In Front Of The Entire World Again
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buffoon=http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/trump-files-donald-son-orangutan
DeleteTrump fails to defuse video scandal
ReplyDelete...But let’s face it, many voters wanted to see how he would handle questions about that video and he did poorly. Trump’s apology seemed perfunctory and he again dismissed the comments as “locker room talk” that in no way excused it.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/kathie-obradovich/2016/10/10/debate-trump-fails-defuse-video-scandal/91687254/
I'm surprised he didn't flat out use the juvenile excuse "But Mom, all the other guys say it."
Delete...What horrified me about that tape wasn’t more wild talk from you, but the dark, terrible reflection of my own duplicitous attitudes toward women.
ReplyDeleteI hate to admit this — I am ashamed to admit it — but I heard an echo of myself in the words “locker room talk.”
I’ve never bragged about my efforts to seduce a married woman, nor have I used the exact phrasing you did when you described how and where you would grab a woman.
But I have engaged in such ribald discourse. I’ve used foul language and discussed sex and women in the most sordid terms in the company of other men and close friends.
Like you claim, I am not proud of that admission. And like you, I know a lot of men talk that way about women, especially in circumstances when they believe they can do so without consequence.
Your hot mic tape made me examine my own life, the language I’ve used, the entertainment I’ve chosen, the relationships I’ve had and how I’ve treated women, either directly or indirectly in my life.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/columnists/daniel-finney/2016/10/10/thanks-donald-trump-showing-me-how-ve-done-wrong-women/91843322/
My personal fav moment of that debate was Trump humping the chair.
ReplyDeleteCarrie Fisher (who should know) also thinks Trump is a cocaine user.
Deletehttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/expert-carrie-fisher-says-trumps-sniffles-are-absolutely-a-sign-of-cocaine-use/
Add her name to Dr. Howard Dean and Bill Maher.
Will Trump eventually have to address this? Will we see another "best note ever" from his proctologist?
He can't blame the sniffing on the mic this time. For those that heard the debate on the radio instead of watching it, the sniffing was really pronounced and distracting.
Before the debate, my husband and I joked about how great it would be if Hillary came with a container of Tic Tacs in her pocket. A mic would have picked up the rattling sound and captured people's attention, and then she could have drawn the container from her pocket and nonchalantly put one in her mouth or held out the container toward TRump.
ReplyDeleteOrange tic tacs.
DeleteHilarious!
DeleteIt would have been a blast to listen to you and hubby during the debate!
Nice tidbit!
Time for the GOP to open a new playbook of excuses, denials, jokes and deflections.
ReplyDeleteWhat can Trump, that good catholic Giuliani and the other locker room boys come up for entertainment at the next debate?
Their press conference sunk big time, but of course they were doing the public a service, they only flew those women in to shake hands with Bill not humiliate and try to rattle Hillary.
My suggestion for a reply, if little fingers Trump whips it out, like he almost did during the primaries: what a second I have to get my magnifying glass.
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The floodgates open: Women call Gloria Allred alleging ‘inappropriate contact by Mr. Trump
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/the-floodgates-open-women-call-gloria-allred-alleging-inappropriate-contact-by-mr-trump/
Oh boy. Hillary will have a list of names of those women that Trump attacked. This won't be Miss Housekeeping embarrassment. This will be full blown sexual predator indictment stuff.
DeleteSo, yet another Trump lie debunked. Just talk? Nope. Actions trump words and his actions are illegal.
No non-disclosure will protect him from this. Allred will assure these women it can't be used to gag them when a crime was committed.
I love it that Hillary wasn't intimidated by him at all. I was actually hoping he was going to be high enough to put his hands on her, then we could have watched the SS tackle him and slam him around while they arrested him.
ReplyDeleteOne other thing to note is that at one point with all his snorting and sniffling that actual blood was visible in one of his nostrils.
Does that truly mean he has a coke problem? I've never seen anyone snort and sniffle like he does! Seemed like he'd do it just prior to telling another lie!
DeleteBlood shown in his nostril? How come that hasn't been blown up and spread across the waves - that alone would bring him more ridicule!
He was horrible throughout the debate and especially so when stalking behind Mrs. Clinton!
What a creepy guy that they never were able to get control of since the age of five. His father put him in the military academy because he couldn't handle/control him.
The educational channel ran a 'life of Trump' type thing on air last night and was enticing to watch. Trump has been a pain in the ass his entire life and liked by very few!
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/expert-carrie-fisher-says-trumps-sniffles-are-absolutely-a-sign-of-cocaine-use/
DeleteCarrie Fisher thinks he does coke.
He was seething in anger last night. You could almost feel it through the television. What is inconceivable to me is that he got caught on a hot mic, and somehow it's Hillary's fault so all his anger is directed at her.
ReplyDeleteI hope Hillary does NOTHING for awhile -- let Trump hang himself even more in the remaining days. Being ignored would bother him. He will fly apart soon, facing his imminent loss PLUS the loss of his supposed (non-existent, smoke-and-mirrors) fortune.
ReplyDeleteHope his family can get him into a strait-jacket before he explodes.
Stroke. Aneurism. Heart attack.
DeleteTrump may not even make it to election day.
"Trump is a Constitutional CRISIS under a bad hair job." "Evangelical leaders have trashed their reputations by endorsing Trump. They showed their true colors. They don’t give a shit about values and the Bible. They only want to tell other women what to do with their uterus. Oh and maybe scream at some gay people."
ReplyDeletehttp://lnr.politicususa.com/real-donald-trump-1725/
Actually, changes in Tax law have to come from the House to the Senate. If no one offered it to her, there was not a thing she could have done.
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't have a clue how the government works.
You say that like it's a problem.
DeleteReally it's like a solution!
What class that DJT has:
ReplyDeleteReport: Debate Officials Stopped Bill Clinton’s Accusers From Sitting in Trump Family Box Last Minute
http://www.mediaite.com/online/report-debate-officials-stopped-bill-clintons-accusers-from-sitting-in-trump-family-box-last-minute/
But nobody thinks HRC is sick...
...except the Secret Service:
Reporter admits Hillary's "seizure disorder"
reason why flashes banned by Secret Service.
https://vid.me/crjJ
I love how the only thing about her he could think to praise was her tenacity when he's been attacking her stamina for weeks.
DeleteWhat a maroon.
Now Hillary's praise of his children, while seeming to compliment him as a father was really a back-handed insult since it was Ivanka and Marla and now Melania that raise his children. Trump has almost nothing to do with parenting his own offspring.
lt's more likely they ban the flashes because they can be used to blind and distract in case there is an attack.
DeleteAm wondering how far this goes, with the disgusting Trump tactics trying to smear Hillary and blame HER for Bill's past. She was Trump's target of humiliation last night and women everywhere won't forgive him for that.
ReplyDeleteYes, the creepy thuggish stalking of Trump was so off, and I thought at first it was just him trying to be on screen. He just can't NOT be on camera. Noticed him do a sideways pose, behind Hillary, with his head held high and chin up, as though he was posing for an artist, and as though he was some General Patton.
Even Hannibal Lecter would draw the line at eating Trump. Trump is way too free range rude to eat. Bad meat makes one sic, don't you know.
ReplyDeleteAlec Baldwin is practicing his sniffing. There are four Saturdays between now and the election. I think he will b on every week. This will get him and Kate McKinnon Emmy's.love his Trump and she is fantastic playing hillary and Kelli Anne Conway.
ReplyDeleteI hope so.
DeleteHe was even better this last Saturday. The hands, fingers, groping was perfect.
If only there was one more opportunity for Alec doing Trump and Tina Fey doing Palin to be together.
But we all know that won't happen. Palin is finally a has-been. Irrelevant. Ignored.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving clown.
Alec and Kate are hilarious. Hopefully Tina Fey will appear.
DeleteAlso of note are Seth Meyers, Samantha Bee, and Trevor Noah.
I don't have cable but Seth's Meyers' brilliant Trump monologues are on you tube.
A drug fueled predator lurking and shadowing a woman while she is doing a job is about as creepy as it gets. It is all on video.
ReplyDeleteTotally creepy behavior.
DeleteAll these women were paid to appear at the debate, they even paid Kathleen Willey's mortgage off. SMH
ReplyDeleteWHO PAID? drumpf or was it the RNC? BOTH?
DeleteRIGHTing THAT SHIT SHOW OFF, liteRALLY!
It will be on a EX-666PENCE report... somewhere.
Citation?
DeleteI suspected but would love some proof.
Trump is a living parody of himself. Should have listened to his family and not ran for president. Didn't he know shit would come out? Or is he that sick that he doesn't know that what he sez and does is sick. What's frightening is that we have a mentally ill person running on the Republican ticket and the Republicans and Evangelicals endorse him with all their hearts. What doth that say about them? Asylum. That's what. Just in time for Halloween. Scary real life shit. We don't even need to go to a scary hollywood movie this years. We are living it.
ReplyDeleteHe is that deluded. Hillary hit it on the head when she said he lives in his own reality.
DeleteNot all Evangelicals are for him. There's an Evangelical movement on Change.org against Trump.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/wikileaks-bill-chelseas-office-crap-drove-a-top-clinton-foundation-official-suicidal/
ReplyDeleteDon't know about other people, but when I don't like my boss, I find a new job. I certainly don't repeatedly threaten to commit suicide over it.
DeleteThe guy who keeps having to talk this woman down seems pretty strange in that he isn't complaining about having to have that kind of responsibility when he's at home at night, he'd rather blame it all on Chelsea?
At his rally today Trump's fans were even worse with their "Lock her up!" which was louder than usual and he just let it go on and on and was smiling.
ReplyDeleteWhelp, I think Paula missed the memo on the dress code. And that just belied my feminist stance, but I was compelled. Trump used them like a sex toy...or a dirty rug. Take your pickLove, from Georgia, usa
ReplyDeleteLook at this body language:
ReplyDeletehttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/10/04/3941915900000578-3830074-image-a-95_1476070637023.jpg
They didn't shake hands prior but they did after.
Look at where the hands are. Clinton is basically holding him off. She is shaking hands but her arm is fully extended to keep him away. Meanwhile he is turning and trying to draw her in. The arm behind is yet another DOMINANCE indicator, like his lurking over her while she was speaking during the debate.
The audience isn't stupid. They may not be able to analyze complicate policy issues on the fly, but they can read body language.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3830084/Audience-members-LAUGH-Trump-declares-gentleman-giving-Hillary-floor-presidential-debate-aghast-stands-menacingly-watch-answer-question.html
He totally tried to intimidate her with his aggressive body language. He knew exactly what he was trying to accomplish. It didn't work, but we all saw how he tries to dominate the scene. Yeah, he sure does live in his own reality show.
DeleteDoes he think he is god? judging people and bringing forth people involved? about personal issues? and hurting hillary, chelsea and bill? omg what a orange add pos.
ReplyDeletehttp://lawnewz.com/high-profile/turns-out-donald-trump-attacked-woman-who-accused-him-of-sexual-assault-this-year/
ReplyDeletePoor Trump, has no platform of note, lots of promises with no plans. And this pathetic side show he put together shows Hillary was right, the four of them are scraping the bottom of the basket of deplorables. Was Monica busy, Donald? Did you fondle her puzzy and brag to Billy Bush? It's not locker room talk, it's predatory sexual posing, because I doubt you've seen a locker room in ages, you need a fricking mirror and tweezers to masturbate, no wonder Melania Gabor looks frustrated and sad all the time. I'm surprised she doesn't have an eating disorder yet. But she got what she wanted $$$$$$$$$. Love the stalker photo, looks like a duck that just hatched and thinks Hillary is it's mom, poor Hillary.
ReplyDeleteBut she did well last night, Donald, not so much.
http://latest.com/2016/10/better-to-grab-a-pssy-than-to-be-one-angry-trump-fans-protest-the-gop/
ReplyDelete“Better to grab a p*ssy than to be one” You could use another 4 letter word, starting with C.